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[blinking8s]

ok so my computer crapped out on me then the server overloaded....2nd try

its been answered here before im sure, but i cant seem to dig it up

a) get a call about a company wanting to buy photos for a stock sales, mainly for webdesign but also print use ect

b) they seemed interested in a few of my sports photos, but what are the legalities behind college sports? im pretty sure thats a no-go

c) price? the stock calculator doesnt cover web use

i feel im in way over my head too *slams head into wall*

why do they call me?

[vwpilot]

Absolutely off limits for NCAA stuff. Simply do not do it. You cannot even get releases in this case because NCAA laws override even that because of eligibility of the athletes in the photos.

Simple though, you are working for a college. You are shooting for them. Ask the SID at the school and he will easily be able to answer you questions about what you can and cannot do.

[Mike Panic]

play it super safe... if it has a visable face, logo or company name anywhere in any of the photos, don't sell it

[IndyJeff]

VWPilot is right on....NCAA? No way. Contact the SID and tell him of the photos requested and he can advise you from there but, don't get your hopes up. Chances are he will say no without having to inquire any further.

[blinking8s]

i figured that about sport photos and they pretty much knew but wanted me to check anyways...Im def wanting to avoid all legal headaches

make panic - im already on that route ;) thankfully

it appears to be more of a bluk assignment, somewhat loose contract, photos in masses (as long as they're quality) and a lower pay per photo sort of deal...almost like istock but a set amount per photo vs approval and what sells

[IndyJeff]

One thing to consider as bad as the legalities of it, if you get caught you not only will probably get sued, you may be permanately banned from all NCAA events.

[blinking8s]

haha...i wont sell anything from NCAA for sure ;)

i cant even afford my water bill right now...much less a lawyer to defend me in court for any reason

has anyone delt with selling less expensive stock photography in bulk? Ive done web design for a while so part of all this is because of my background...Id be able to go out and take a set of texture photos or objects that are commonly used in high interface design...

i stock isnt much but I know enough people who submit there, this would be a base price for each of my photos...i get the hint its not much per photo, not like the stock prices for print we usually talked about here

[blinking8s]

what about buildings, streets, ect? if im out shooting downtown can i sell those? or do i need to have the cities approval? lol...just curious...i need to go buy a book on this stuff...lol...national parks? monuments?

[gmen]

what about buildings, streets, ect? if im out shooting downtown can i sell those? or do i need to have the cities approval? lol...just curious...i need to go buy a book on this stuff...lol...national parks? monuments?

If the image is going to be used in a commercial context, you may well need a 'property release'...

There's some useful info on releases and stock in these links:

http://www.sportsshooter.com/message_display.html?tid=2751
http://www.sportsshooter.com/message_display.html?tid=2915
http://www.sportsshooter.com/message_display.html?tid=6028
http://www.sportsshooter.com/message_display.html?tid=8267

[blinking8s]

thanks gmen...ur the best ;)

they seem failry in a rush to hand me a check and take my work...but the last thing i need is legal conflict possiblities...i cant even afford my water bill right now (8 days late:()

What about national parks and memorials? like I have a photo of an American flag set in DC behind the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, or a shot of Arlington Semetary, train station, skyscraper shaper shot in nyc...I dont see any property release requirements on some of the stock sites ive investigated...just model release requirements...

bah too much thinking at 6am...goodnight all

[gmen]

thanks gmen...ur the best ;)

they seem failry in a rush to hand me a check and take my work...but the last thing i need is legal conflict possiblities...i cant even afford my water bill right now (8 days late:()

There's a current thread on ss.com which also may be of interest - it's not directly related to stock, but deals with the release issues: http://www.sportsshooter.com/message_display.html?tid=14255

It 'may' be possible for you to licence the images to the client making it clear that they are only for editorial purposes and, if the user has a commercial intent, they will have to deal with the relevant model releases. However, being in the UK, I am not familiar with the NCAA regulations and, reading the previous posts, this may also be a no-goer!

Good luck with whatever route you take.

[gmen]

What about national parks and memorials? like I have a photo of an American flag set in DC behind the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, or a shot of Arlington Semetary, train station, skyscraper shaper shot in nyc...I dont see any property release requirements on some of the stock sites ive investigated...just model release requirements...

Okies... this property release thing is an 'interesting' one, try this for size:

http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyright_and_Fair_Use_Overview/chapter12/12-d.html

Scroll down about half-way. The bottom line is that an image of a public building used for editorial purposes shouldn't cause a problem. Just be wary of distinctive buildings and 'trademarks'... and of course all forms of commercial use.

[blinking8s]

ANy college sports phots Ive taken are 100% off limits for commercial use. however Art work is concidered editorial but digital art on the web is for the masses, so it starts slding into commercial...haha...what a crazy world. Oh well...

thanks gmen, big help! back to researching...