Canon 35mm f/1.4L II Leaked!

[DDWD10]

http://www.fotokonijnenberg.nl/product/1367783/canon_ef_35mm_f_14_l_usm_mk_ii.html

Not much info, but we may be seeing this lens at Photokina soon! :)

The picture is the Mk I version.

[davo_robbo]

sounds very yummy! :)

why would they upgrade it though??

[chioque]

Better start selling my 35L before it drops in price :) It'll be interesting if this is true and what the differences will be from the Mk I. I hope it will be weather-sealed for a start. But having a 35L it will be quite a feat to improve on it, seeing it's already a great lens as it is.

[DDWD10]

I suppose they gave it a nice textured finish, a new recessed AF switch, new coatings and a faster USM motor? Just my guess.

[ed rader]

sounds very yummy! :)

why would they upgrade it though??

if they made it sharper wide open i may be a buyer. it will also be weathersealed i'll bet.

ed rader

[canadianbacon52]

I heard a rumor awhile ago that it would be 1.2, but I'll settle for 1.4 :), really not tooo much (relatively) to improve about this lens...

[airfrogusmc]

Mines pretty darn sharp wide open and better than the 24-70 at 2.8 and really smokes it at 2.8...

[ed rader]

Mines pretty darn sharp wide open and better than the 24-70 at 2.8 and really smokes it at 2.8...

so you think the new 35L will be less sharp wide open :D? that was my only real beef with the 35L was its softness wide open.

ed rader

[airfrogusmc]

so you think the new 35L will be less sharp wide open :D? that was my only real beef with the 35L was its softness wide open.

ed rader

I'm sorry you had a bad copy...
Mines very sharp wide open...

[naryab]

Try searching for other things too... Since B&H has been out of 50L's I tried searching mk ii sure enough, but it is not a mk ii... and I found a discussion about this last year, the mk ii 50L. Of course the 35L has been out for a bit... hmm. But where is the 50L and the 300L ?

[ed rader]

I'm sorry you had a bad copy...
Mines very sharp wide open...


if the new one isn't sharper then it'll never sell for the $1500 canon will be asking.

so i expect if canon really is introducing a mark II it will outperform the current 35L and be weathersealed like the 50L.

if not maybe i'll pick up a mark I for 800 bucks. i'd pay that much for an f2 L prime :D.

ed rader

[airfrogusmc]

Like I said maybe you had a bad copy. Mines sharper wide open than the 24-70 is wide open.

[chioque]

why would they upgrade it though??

I was wondering the same. Could it be that all these rumoured/fabled new cameras that are (5D Mark II it better be :) ) supposed to be imminent out-resolve the older lenses.

[bacchanal]

Man, this is horrible...how am I going to be able to go around in public with my 5D MkI and 35L MkI. Thanks a lot Canon! :rolleyes:;)

[bacchanal]

I was wondering the same. Could it be that all these romoured/fabled new cameras that are (5D Mark II it better be :) ) supposed to be imminent out-resolve the older lenses.

I don't know, it does vignette pretty hard core wide open (which I think looks pretty). Sharpness, AF, flare performance are all excellent. If it were f/1.2...that would be something...

They need to update the Brick!

[pprice]

The lens is perfect as is, I would think they would upgrade something in more need of an upgrade, but what do I know.

[timnosenzo]

Like I said maybe you had a bad copy. Mines sharper wide open than the 24-70 is wide open.

Same here, I use my 35L wide open all the time. It's money. :cool:

I'm not sure I really believe this rumor though... I mean, I hope Canon isn't wasting their time "fixing" their perfectly good lenses while so many of their other lenses could really use updating (100-400 anyone???).

[airfrogusmc]

Same here, I use my 35L wide open all the time. It's money. :cool:

I'm not sure I really believe this rumor though... I mean, I hope Canon isn't wasting their time "fixing" their perfectly good lenses while so many of their other lenses could really use updating (100-400 anyone???).

The 35L is one of Canons finest efforts. Its a great lens.

[JeffreyG]

so you think the new 35L will be less sharp wide open :D? that was my only real beef with the 35L was its softness wide open.

ed rader

What can I say Ed, you have had a bad 35L and a good 100-400L. YMMV!

[timnosenzo]

I suppose they gave it a nice textured finish, a new recessed AF switch, new coatings and a faster USM motor? Just my guess.

The last L prime Canon updated (the 85L), they added distance reporting for ETTL II, improved coatings for flare reduction on digital cameras, and slightly improved the AF. They didn't weather seal is, the body is essentially the same, and they look identical.

The 35L is already ETTL II compatible, and the AF is fine... not sure what they could really do to improve it.

[JeffreyG]

The last L prime Canon updated (the 85L), they added distance reporting for ETTL II, improved coatings for flare reduction on digital cameras, and slightly improved the AF. They didn't weather seal is, the body is essentially the same, and they look identical.

The 35L is already ETTL II compatible, and the AF is fine... not sure what they could really do to improve it.

Yes, I should have mentioned this 'update' makes the least sense to me. The 35L is one of the lenses least needing a tweak.

I know people would love to see:

IS added to some things like the 24-70L and the 400/5.6

IS updated on the 300/4

Push pull changed to crank on the 100-400L

A normal fast prime for EF-S (don't hold your breath).

And me? The EF 500/5.6L IS USM would be nice.

[bacchanal]

The last L prime Canon updated (the 85L), they added distance reporting for ETTL II, improved coatings for flare reduction on digital cameras, and slightly improved the AF. They didn't weather seal is, the body is essentially the same, and they look identical.

The 35L is already ETTL II compatible, and the AF is fine... not sure what they could really do to improve it.

Give it an 82mm filter diameter of course.

[chioque]

Yes, I should have mentioned this 'update' makes the least sense to me. The 35L is one of the lenses least needing a tweak.

I know people would love to see:

IS added to some things like the 24-70L and the 400/5.6


The 24-70 IS rumours have been going around for quite a while. One of them is here 24-70 IS rumour (http://www.canonrumors.com/comments.php?y=08&m=09&entry=entry080902-075520)

[airfrogusmc]

Well here wide open focus was on the e. I just shot this a couple of minutes ago.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/IMG_3147.jpg
100% crop
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/IMG_3147100.jpg

[bacchanal]

Well here wide open focus was on the e. I just shot this a couple of minutes ago.


Nice metaphor.

(exif says f/1.6 though)

[airfrogusmc]

OPPPs You are SO RIGHT. So sorry. Hang on I'll shoot another.

[chioque]

Know what.. this September/October the wallet will be much lighter. What with the 5D Mark II and all these new rumoured lenses.

Please God, give me the strength to resist all these worldly temptations.

[airfrogusmc]

Try this
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/IMG_3150.jpg
100%
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/IMG_3150100.jpg

[Rudi]

Why the hell would they want to upgrade the 35L when there are other lenses in much more need of an overhaul? ???

[Sfordphoto]

Why the hell would they want to upgrade the 35L when there are other lenses in much more need of an overhaul? ???

yea darnit all! this makes me angrier than angry!

[cdifoto]

Wouldn't it be rather amusing if, after all this conjecture, it turns out to be false rumor ie there really will not be a 35mm f/1.4L II?

GearHead #1: Why would Canon update an already great lens!?!?!
GearHead #2: I don't know. It makes no sense!
Canon: What are you talking about? We're not updating the 35mm f/1.4L. If you see a life flying around, try to grab it.

:)

[Mike55]

the only reason to offer an MK II of this lens is if IS was in it. Otherwise Canon's marketing of "it's better in the lens" is a bit shallow.

[illusionest]

i always thought 35mm was considered "wide"; and why would you put IS in wide lenses... only if you have parkinson's... majorly.

i mean, if they wanted IS in the 35mm range they would've done it to the 16-35 II.
plus, 35mm L is such an awesome lens, flawless! no need for upgrade. i say FAKE!

[davo_robbo]

i agree..
there isn't enough incentive for canon to upgrade it in relation to other lens's in its lineup

[carnage3630]

hope to see a 35mm f1.0L :D

[davo_robbo]

pushing your luck there i think :D
f1.0 would be so soft though..
maybe 1.2 :)

[fr3d]

Oh lol, the 35mm/1.4 L is one heck of a fine lens.
I can't see a reason to update it other than adding
IS. And since when are photo retailers reliable source
of information. 99.99999% of the time this is a typo
by a stupid employee who mixes up Mk I and Mk II
when he enters this long dull list of items in the
shop database. :rolleyes:

[echo]

Like I said maybe you had a bad copy. Mines sharper wide open than the 24-70 is wide open.

When I nail the focus mine is sharper than the 24-70L at f/2.8 but it's still not as sharp as my 85L mkII at f/1.2 so I think Canon can improve the 35L. Weather sealing would be a huge bonus.

[Trainboy]

i always thought 35mm was considered "wide"; and why would you put IS in wide lenses... only if you have parkinson's... majorly.

i mean, if they wanted IS in the 35mm range they would've done it to the 16-35 II.
plus, 35mm L is such an awesome lens, flawless! no need for upgrade. i say FAKE!
Some of us want to handhold at 1/4-1/2 of a second!

[masayako]

Any other 35L II rumor out there?

[TheHoff]

Any other 35L II rumor out there?

Seeing that they just re-did the 24 with a brand new coating, and they were both originally released around the same time, you'd have to expect a new 35 is coming shortly.

[fr3d]

I like your avatar! :lol:

[basroil]

i always thought 35mm was considered "wide"; and why would you put IS in wide lenses... only if you have parkinson's... majorly.

i mean, if they wanted IS in the 35mm range they would've done it to the 16-35 II.
plus, 35mm L is such an awesome lens, flawless! no need for upgrade. i say FAKE!

There is a clear need for one upgrade: weather sealing. 24mm got SW coat and weather sealing. 50 1.2 added true MF during af and weather sealing. 5dmkii added a minor weather seal (which you can upgrade certain parts yourself if you don't like canon's way of doing it). 35L II will eventually come to market. Likely still f1.4, SW coat, weather sealing, extra 300 bucks base price. Is it coming next week, can't tell you. Is it coming sometime in the next three years, you bet it is, pretty soon the cameras will outresolve the lenses again and new versions of everything will come to market.

[airfrogusmc]

When I nail the focus mine is sharper than the 24-70L at f/2.8 but it's still not as sharp as my 85L mkII at f/1.2 so I think Canon can improve the 35L. Weather sealing would be a huge bonus.

Sharpest lens I own is the 200 2L but the 35 is not that far behind wide open. My 85 1.2 and 35 1.4 are pretty close wide open. HTe 85 is better at 1.4 than the 35. They are both just killer at 2, 2.8 & 4

[Technophile]

only thing i can really see improved regarding image quality is CA/purple fringing wide open. everything else about my copy is absolutely fantastic wide open - and thats all i really use it at.

[fr3d]

Maybe they make this lens sharper .. so that it is sharp on a 21MP Canon 5D Mk II wide open?

[airfrogusmc]

only thing i can really see improved regarding image quality is CA/purple fringing wide open. everything else about my copy is absolutely fantastic wide open - and thats all i really use it at.

Yeah I would agree and I wish folks would quit saying its not sharp wide open cause IT IS. Its sharper wide open (1.4) than the 24-70 is wide open(2.8) and its two stops faster. And the 35L is really is sharp at 2.8.

[Rudi]

Yeah I would agree and I wish folks would quit saying its not sharp wide open cause IT IS. Its sharper wide open (1.4) than the 24-70 is wide open(2.8) and its two stops faster. And the 35L is really is sharp at 2.8.

Agreed!

[davo_robbo]

cant really compare a prime to zoom..
at the given focal length primes will always have better sharpness/IQ than zooms.. generally speaking

[lbeck]

so you think the new 35L will be less sharp wide open :D? that was my only real beef with the 35L was its softness wide open.

ed rader

35L ... soft wide open? Are you sure you mean that? Seems like something is wrong. 10 out of 10 people say its sharp wide open, including me. I can post a pic if you want so you can be the judge ;)

[MinhThien]

Wow I was about to buy MK1 and after reading this? Maybe I should wait until the release of MK2 so I can get MK1 for cheaper :)

[TheHoff]

They just updated the 24L. The 35L Mark 2 is certainly coming up.

And yea you will have a good choice -- a $1700 mark 2 version or a mark 1 version for half the price.

[DEMO]

Damn it, I just received my new copy of the MKI. Actually I got it for a good price, so I'm not trippin.. :p

[Pekka]

Good news.

[MinhThien]

Damn it, I just received my new copy of the MKI. Actually I got it for a good price, so I'm not trippin.. :p
How much?

[DEMO]

$980.00 shipped..

[MinhThien]

$980.00 shipped..
Nice! Now can you tell me where did you got it from?
Thanks!

[Oteck]

i wish they would introduce a 1.6 or 1.8 usm :(

[daleftw]

I reckon, would be good on a crop sensor. They have the 2.0 but non USM I guess releasing a better version crowds the market.

[Perry Ge]

I'm firm in my conviction that I'm gonna get a 35L within the next month. I don't care if they announce a new one, if the price gets jacked like the 24LII did, I'm going with the MKI. I played with one a few days ago and it was magical.

[TheHoff]

I'm firm in my conviction that I'm gonna get a 35L within the next month. I don't care if they announce a new one, if the price gets jacked like the 24LII did, I'm going with the MKI. I played with one a few days ago and it was magical.

'You know it will be the same price as the 24L2... yay, $3400 for two wide primes...

[Mark]

If it is sealed it will massivly tempt me, same if they bring out a sealed 135L.... :)

[form]

Seems like a revenue builder more than anything. The last 24 f/1.4 II seemed to be like that too.

[wildcart]

I'm going to sell my 24-70mm tomorrow :) So I was thinking getting the 35mm 1.4L first. But if they bring out a new one I would like to have the new one :( Or should I buy a 50mm 1.2L first??

[airfrogusmc]

5D? get the 35L..

[wildcart]

I bought the 35mm 1.4L yesterday! What a SWEET lens :p

[MDJAK]

The 85L version I was in desperate need of an upgrade. The 85L II was a nice replacement.

The 35L, besides not being sealed, is a fine lens in every way. I think Canon could do well to improve in other areas before this questionable move.

me

[Jennifer Mazy]

Nice! Now can you tell me where did you got it from?
Thanks!

Please share where you found it at this price! I am looking for one :D

[SOX 404]

http://www.fotokonijnenberg.nl/product/1367783/canon_ef_35mm_f_14_l_usm_mk_ii.html

Not much info, but we may be seeing this lens at Photokina soon! :)

The picture is the Mk I version.
I guess the rumor 2 years ago was not happening :D

Now the question is, should I get it now? :confused:

[dolina]

I guess the rumor 2 years ago was not happening :D

Now the question is, should I get it now? :confused:

Some features to be added to the 35/1.4L II

Updated USM
Dust- and water-resistant construction
Fluorite / UD Elements
SWC
Circular aperture
Aspherical elements

Take note that AF-S NIKKOR 35mm f/1.4G (http://www.nikonusa.com/Nikon-Products/Product/Camera-Lenses/2198/AF-S-NIKKOR-35mm-f%252F1.4G.html) started shipping November 19, 2010. New Nikon glass is a good indicator of what Canon glass are expected to be refreshed or introduced.

[SOX 404]

Some features to be added to the 35/1.4L II

Updated USM
Dust- and water-resistant construction
Fluorite / UD Elements
SWC
Circular aperture
Aspherical elements

Take note that AF-S NIKKOR 35mm f/1.4G (http://www.nikonusa.com/Nikon-Products/Product/Camera-Lenses/2198/AF-S-NIKKOR-35mm-f%252F1.4G.html) started shipping November 19, 2010. New Nikon glass is a good indicator of what Canon glass are expected to be refreshed or introduced.
NIKKOR 35mm f/1.4G price $1,800. I guess Canon 35m Mark II should be somewhere around that price?

[Rudi]

Seeing that this thread is now two and a half years old, I certainly hope people aren't still waiting for the 35L Mark II...

[CAL Imagery]

Seeing that this thread is now two and a half years old, I certainly hope people aren't waiting for the 35L Mark II...
This is why I don't get caught up with rumors.

[ni$mo350]

^ +1 24-70L IS is nothing more than a stale fart until Canon releases the specs..

[ilumo]

Some features to be added to the 35/1.4L II

Updated USM
Dust- and water-resistant construction
Fluorite / UD Elements
SWC
Circular aperture
Aspherical elements

Take note that AF-S NIKKOR 35mm f/1.4G (http://www.nikonusa.com/Nikon-Products/Product/Camera-Lenses/2198/AF-S-NIKKOR-35mm-f%252F1.4G.html) started shipping November 19, 2010. New Nikon glass is a good indicator of what Canon glass are expected to be refreshed or introduced.

Performance of the nikon 35 isn't even that much better than the 35L. I believe the corners are better, but the center is not. but it's a fabulous lens.

[mike cabilangan]

i don't use my 35, but i selfishly don't want this to happen :D

they should update the 35 f/2 and 50 1.4 (and other EF non-L primes) before they touch this lens.

i mean, if it ain't broke ...

i'm one of those who feel 1.4 is a lot less sharp than say 2.0 on my copy.

[kokakaste2]

I got all excited and then noticed the original post is from 2008 :/

[SOX 404]

I got all excited and then noticed the original post is from 2008 :/
And it will go on till 2013... or 2015...... :P

[str8six]

I got all excited and then noticed the original post is from 2008 :/

Me too! There are 3 for sale locally so I thought something must be up!?

[NatX]

Canon rumors just posted this: http://www.canonrumors.com/2011/04/canon-ef-35-f1-4l-ii-cr2/

[DarthVader]

^^ how much will it cost ? :)

[NatX]

im more concerned about when it will actually hit the streets rather than the price. The 8-15mm fisheye is still not out yet! So even if they do announce this it might take ages to actually reach consumers' hands.

[Todd Lambert]

Everyone: BIG breath!

Okay, now hold it....

[DarthVader]

I'm poor so I'm concerned with the price first.

im more concerned about when it will actually hit the streets rather than the price. The 8-15mm fisheye is still not out yet! So even if they do announce this it might take ages to actually reach consumers' hands.

[NatX]

I'm poor so I'm concerned with the price first.

At least you are economically poor. I'm mentally and physically drained from all the years of waiting :p haha

but yes, the price would be good if they keep it as it is now (any less would be kinda wishful thinking)

[Todd Lambert]

If and when it comes, I have a feeling it will be in the $1600 range. :cry:

[DarthVader]

$1700-$2000.

[kokakaste2]

Start saving now lol

[Rittrato]

If and when it comes, I have a feeling it will be in the $1600 range. :cry:

Still cheap. Nikon starts theirs at $1800 and its still not as good as Canon's MKI version.

[Jaytypes]

Still cheap. Nikon starts theirs at $1800 and its still not as good as Canon's MKI version.

I wouldn't go that far I have the Nikkor 35 1.4 and it is very good maybe not as fast as the 35L but mine is very sharp at 1.4 a lot sharper than the 2 copies of the 35L I had.

And it's weathersealed.

[drumsfield]

My guess is $1500

[Michaelmjc]

The 35mm is a great lens, definitely sharp... But it's filthy at 100%. So much purple fringing around everything.

[Jaytypes]

Regarding price I would think around $1700-$2000

Canon's new lens prices have been keeping up with Nikon's new releases.

[pbelarge]

And I thought that purple was in......:D

[Rittrato]

I wouldn't go that far I have the Nikkor 35 1.4 and it is very good maybe not as fast as the 35L but mine is very sharp at 1.4 a lot sharper than the 2 copies of the 35L I had.

And it's weathersealed.

Hi Jay,

The observation I got are from some Canon->Nikon users, I admit going by statements alone are not conclusive, but so far from the actual tests shots I've seen at Fred Miranda and Nikon Cafe, Nikon's 35 1.4 appears to be a just a tad bit of a disappointment, it doesn't seem to be as sharp as Nikon's 24 1.4 which in itself is a fantastic lens. I don't think the 35 1.4 even has ED glass in it.


Also, from a recent lens test from Camera Labs.com, Nikon's cheaper 35 1.8 G (DX) shows it was sharper all the way up to 4.0 IIRC, granted there's vignetting if you use that lens in D3/D700 bodies but I think it just shows that Nikon's 35 1.4 appears lacks that extra punch to go head to head with Canon's version. In terms of value and performance (corner/middle sharpness, AF speed), the Nikon variation appears to be a let down.

Just my 02 cents.

Thanks,

[dolina]

The Nikon is "superior" because it is newer and was designed for future digital sensors.

The EF 35mm f/1.4L USM (http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/camera/lens/ef/data/wide/ef_35_14l_usm.html) came out in 1998 while the AF-S NIKKOR 35mm f/1.4G (http://www.nikonusa.com/Nikon-Products/Product/Camera-Lenses/2198/AF-S-NIKKOR-35mm-f%252F1.4G.html) debuted in 2010. That is why the Canon is cheaper.

That is why rumors of an updated lens have been swirling around for the past months.

I expect prices to exceed $1800 when it will debuts by 2012. :)

Japan's quake really did a number in Canon production.

[DarthVader]

Looking from what Canon has delivered in 70-200 IS II, this "rumored lens" will be spectacular. Nikon might have a better line up bodies but lenswise Canon still has the upper hand.

[Rittrato]

The Nikon is "superior" because it is newer and was designed for future digital sensors.

The EF 35mm f/1.4L USM (http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/camera/lens/ef/data/wide/ef_35_14l_usm.html) came out in 1998 while the AF-S NIKKOR 35mm f/1.4G (http://www.nikonusa.com/Nikon-Products/Product/Camera-Lenses/2198/AF-S-NIKKOR-35mm-f%252F1.4G.html) debuted in 2010. That is why the Canon is cheaper.



That's just a ridiculous statement especially when it comes to lenses. Newer doesn't necessarily make it "superior". The Nikon 35 1.4 is not weather sealed, focuses slower and is not any sharper than the Canon version despite its 10 yr+ advantage in technology.

[Todd Lambert]

The Nikon is "superior" because it is newer and was designed for future digital sensors.



LOL.. I would beg to differ. :rolleyes:

[dolina]

That's just a ridiculous statement especially when it comes to lenses. Newer doesn't necessarily make it "superior". The Nikon 35 1.4 is not weather sealed, focuses slower and is not any sharper than the Canon version despite its 10 yr+ advantage in technology.
Newer is almost always superior. Point to me a newer lens or body that did not best the predecessor. Are FD lenses as superior to EF lenses? Are the 1999 super teles worst than the 1987 EF 300mm f/2.8L USM, 1996 EF 400mm f/2.8L II USM, 1992 EF 500mm f/4.5L USM & 1988 EF 600mm f/4L USM?

According to these following websites 2010 AF-S NIKKOR 35mm f/1.4G (http://www.nikonusa.com/Nikon-Products/Product/Camera-Lenses/2198/AF-S-NIKKOR-35mm-f%252F1.4G.html) is both dust & weather sealed. Things the 1998 EF 35mm f/1.4L USM (http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/camera/lens/ef/data/wide/ef_35_14l_usm.html) lacks.

http://www.photozone.de/nikon_ff/596-nikkorafs3514ff
http://www.dpreview.com/news/1009/10091511nikon35mm.asp
http://photography.bhinsights.com/content/nikons-af-s-nikkor-35mm-f14g.html
http://www.squidoo.com/nikon-nikkor-f14g

The 1998 EF 35mm f/1.4L USM (http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/camera/lens/ef/data/wide/ef_35_14l_usm.html) also lacks the Canon equivalent of the following Nikon features.

Nano Crystal Coat
Nikon Super Integrated Coating (SIC)
Rounded 9-Blade Diaphragm
Minimum Focus Distance of 0.98 ft.

I don't own a Nikon but I am not full hardy enough to make unsupported statements.

[dolina]

LOL.. I would beg to differ. :rolleyes:

Support your statement with facts. Unlike photo aesthetics, gear improvments can be quantified.

[Todd Lambert]

Well, maybe it's just the term "superior" and it's meaning to you and to me. I'll only say that the Nikon is a very nice lens, but it is simply not "superior" to the Canon. It's equal to it, but at a very high premium and it's pretty sad that it's only equal to a 10 year old lens. In my mind, that doesn't make it superior.

The 70-200 2.8 IS II is what I would call "superior" to it's predecessor.

[Todd Lambert]

And I don't measurbate... so facts to me, are shooting and the results. I've shot with this lens (albeit not mine and only very briefly). To me, it's a great lens and a worthy rival from Nikon for sure. But again, in real use, I wouldn't call it superior.

[Rittrato]

Newer is almost always superior. Point to me a newer lens or body that did not best the predecessor.

We're talking about two lenses manufactured and developed by 2 different companies, in which case I stand by my opinion that newer Nikon 35 1.4 is not superior than Canon's 35 1.4. Construction/built, glass elements, AF speed and accuracy, they're about dead even considering each lenses weakness and strength. If you consider value in this equation, Canon wins IMO and I'm not saying this because I have brand loyalty. Again, these are based on some numerous observations I've read for the past 2-3 months from various Canon-Nikon users.

[Rittrato]

Well, maybe it's just the term "superior" and it's meaning to you and to me. I'll only say that the Nikon is a very nice lens, but it is simply not "superior" to the Canon. It's equal to it, but at a very high premium and it's pretty sad that it's only equal to a 10 year old lens. In my mind, that doesn't make it superior.

The 70-200 2.8 IS II is what I would call "superior" to it's predecessor.

Thank you

[dolina]

We're talking about two lenses manufactured and developed by 2 different companies, in which case I stand by my opinion that newer Nikon 35 1.4 is not superior than Canon's 35 1.4. Construction/built, glass elements, AF speed and accuracy, they're about dead even considering each lenses weakness and strength. If you consider value in this equation, Canon wins IMO and I'm not saying this because I have brand loyalty. Again, these are based on some numerous observations I've read for the past 2-3 months from various Canon-Nikon users.

Canon, Nikon and to some extent Sony are the only direct DSLR competitors within the 35/1.4 market.

They often make directly competing products. They often exceed each others products & services to make them uniquely theirs and outshine the competition. Hence the direct comparison by a lot of photographers.

Now as for the pricing I see it as justified seeming you get more with a newer 2010 Nikon 35mm over the 1998 Canon 35mm.

Whether you think the Nikon is at par only after more than a decade has no baring on whether Canon will update their 35mm.

It will happen and I am glad for it. :)

[Todd Lambert]

Okay, I'm confused. I didn't thing we were arguing about whether or not Canon would update their 35L... I think that's a given.

[I shall return]

Wow I was about to buy MK1 and after reading this? Maybe I should wait until the release of MK2 so I can get MK1 for cheaper :)

I wonder how many tools like this are still waiting for the 35mm 1.4 II or sold their 35mm 1.4 in anticipation for the imaginary 35mm 1.4 II?

[SchnellerGT]

Here is a new "CR2" rumor regarding the 35 1.4L II. (http://www.canonrumors.com/2011/04/canon-ef-35-f1-4l-ii-cr2/)

[ilumo]

I wonder how many tools like this are still waiting for the 35mm 1.4 II or sold their 35mm 1.4 in anticipation for the imaginary 35mm 1.4 II?

Not me... i'll sell mine AFTER the new one comes out and has been thoroughly tested :)

[tjbrock42]

I have seen this thread several times and I always laugh when I see a new rumor pop up because the first post in this thread is from September of 2008.

Hopefully nobody has been waiting three years...

Canon will probably update the lens eventually though, so I wouldn't be surprised if this or any rumor is true. I just wouldn't wait for it. The same thing is true for the 100-400, 24-70 IS, etc.

[Jaytypes]

Hi Jay,

The observation I got are from some Canon->Nikon users, I admit going by statements alone are not conclusive, but so far from the actual tests shots I've seen at Fred Miranda and Nikon Cafe, Nikon's 35 1.4 appears to be a just a tad bit of a disappointment, it doesn't seem to be as sharp as Nikon's 24 1.4 which in itself is a fantastic lens. I don't think the 35 1.4 even has ED glass in it.


Also, from a recent lens test from Camera Labs.com, Nikon's cheaper 35 1.8 G (DX) shows it was sharper all the way up to 4.0 IIRC, granted there's vignetting if you use that lens in D3/D700 bodies but I think it just shows that Nikon's 35 1.4 appears lacks that extra punch to go head to head with Canon's version. In terms of value and performance (corner/middle sharpness, AF speed), the Nikon variation appears to be a let down.

Just my 02 cents.

Thanks,
In regards to the 35G not being as sharp as the 24G canon's 35L is also not as sharp as the 24LII and it's not even close.

I have read alot of reviews and alot of people complaining about the 35G but... I had the 35L twice and I consider the second 35L to be a good copy and like I said before in regards to AF speed the canon wins out but in regards to AF accuracy the nikon wins out and I'm shooting my kids most of the times. Plus I have seen people that complained about the 35G and ended up selling it and now buying it all over again.

I also read people post they would never sell the 24G to get the 35G and end up trying out the 35G and selling the 24G. I have both and they are very close in regards to AF speed and consistency but the 24G controls the purple fringing alot better than the 35G.

Now to put this out there in no way am I putting the 35L down I didn't switch to nikon until I found out they were coming out with a fast 35mm.

That's just a ridiculous statement especially when it comes to lenses. Newer doesn't necessarily make it "superior". The Nikon 35 1.4 is not weather sealed, focuses slower and is not any sharper than the Canon version despite its 10 yr+ advantage in technology.

The 35G is weathersealed and in regards to sharpness like I said my copy is pretty sharp and I'm very satisfied just about as much as I was with my 35L when I had it.

[NatX]

Nikon and Canon lenses are good. Whatever fits your bill and allows you to shoot well go for it. This discussion can go on forever as we all have to account for lens variation.

If it works for you, thats the best lens to own ;)

[fr3d]

I like your avatar! :lol:
+1 :D