GKPE 6 - 3 years on

[Moppie]

3 Years ago, last month, I started GKPE with this simple thread: http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=76991&highlight=great+Kiwi+potn


Hey I thought, there are a bunch of a guys in the US who are all active POTN members getting together and taking some great photos.
I wonder if we can pull together something similar with Kiwi members.

The result has grown beyond anything anyone could have predicted.
All you have to do is search for GKPE to see how big it has become, how many Kiwis got involved, how much fun has been had, and how many great photos have resulted.


So here is to another 3 years of Kiwi POTN members getting together to take photos and do what Kiwis do best; be the nicest damn people in the world.


And to start it all off here is my favorite photo from all the trips we have been on:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/Moppie/Totheebb-tidecomesyou.jpg

I think it translates best as: After the low tide comes the high tide
I believe it is a concept we can apply to many things in life, including life itself :cool:

[akiwi]

http://www.peterhansenfoto.de/singapore/galleries/.Ines/3786Sonnentau_sm.jpg
This thread needs a face.

Natural light no editing

[akiwi]

I think it translates best as: After the low tide comes the high tide
I believe it is a concept we can apply to many things in life, including life itself :cool:
Correct. It's German

[akiwi]

Hey ... I'm winning on the posts count!! 3 x more than anyone else!

[manipula]

Hey ... I'm winning on the posts count!! 3 x more than anyone else!

Loser! :p

[::John::]

subscribing

[naqs]

subscribing

me too... although I'm not here all to often

[manipula]

Another teaser... :p


http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o71/manipula/For%20POTN/IMG_1937.jpg

[akiwi]

It is pretty cool.

Who did the makeup?

[manipula]

It is pretty cool.

Who did the makeup?

Two mins with eyeliner, the sea did the rest. :D

[lil_miss]

lol - very dramatic ;D

[stelari]

Looking forward to seeing the full set, so far they are amazing. Quit teasing!

[DiscoLizard]

New thread has started off in good style - a benchmark has been set by those photos!

[scotttnz]

<Wonders in and has a gander at the new digs>

Nice ;)

[weka2000]

So we have 2 new cameras 50D and 5D. How many will upgrade?

Dave re the new 24L what was the major issue with the old one?

[stelari]

Probably in a year or so I'll pick up the 5DmkII, assuming nothing else has come along. Looks nice, although nothing really revolutionary unless recording HD movies gets you excited.

[weka2000]

Probably in a year or so I'll pick up the 5DmkII, assuming nothing else has come along. Looks nice, although nothing really revolutionary unless recording HD movies gets you excited.

Im intrested to compare the images from the 5d2 to the 1Ds3.

Movie mode is not for me, either is live view. The less gizmos the better.

[stelari]

Trying out scripting with photoshop, figured I should prolly stick my name on stuff.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3235/2866226007_985df635d5_b.jpg

[tag141]

So we have 2 new cameras 50D and 5D. How many will upgrade?

Why all the teasers over the 5D2 though. I don't seem to recall all that sort of fuss over the 50D or the MK3s. What's so special about the 5D?

[weka2000]

Why all the teasers over the 5D2 though. I don't seem to recall all that sort of fuss over the 50D or the MK3s. What's so special about the 5D?

Its more affordable to the masses. Also the 5D was 3 yrs old and there were never any issues with it. People wanted to see what canon would do to make it better.
Add to that Nikons new releases many were expecting ............
However there was both joy and dissapointment.

[lil_miss]

Affordable? lol Sure if you have a few spare thousand lying around

[Sancho]

So we have 2 new cameras 50D and 5D. How many will upgrade?

Dave re the new 24L what was the major issue with the old one?

dont forget the G10 :)

If I was to upgrade it would be the D700 at the moment. But I have no immediate plans, 40D is doing everything I need except faster flash sync

[weka2000]

Affordable? lol Sure if you have a few spare thousand lying around

I dont if I did I would invet in glass.

However 5k ish for 21mp is not a bad deal consideing 6 months ago I paid 12k

[joeseph]

I dont if I did I would invet in glass.

However 5k ish for 21mp is not a bad deal consideing 6 months ago I paid 12k
trouble is that $5k isn't going to be the likely NZ cost...

[akiwi]

Bloody amazing what a huge Hoo Haa there is about a camera release.
Most people seem disappointed as it doesn't have a particular bell or whistle that they where hoping for. But 90% of these these bells and whistles won't make better photos.
As for the people saying they will change to Noink as it currently has a camera that they like more... what is in 2 years then.
They are probably the people who change their wife when they see a new one with bigger breasts... then they change when they start to hang a little. ;)

[tonnes]

Whats going on in here gais!!!????

[scotttnz]

If you ignore the hype the Mk2 actually appears to be a great landscape and portrait camera. 5D never was for action, which is what most people seem to be upset about.

Now that i know where to get my sensor cleaned, I'm quite happy with my 5D ;)

You know guys our 5D will always be a classic. Even now I miss mine. It was simple, light, lens didnt need micro adjusting ....I even miss cleaning the sensor

[weka2000]

Scott you found duncans sensor cleaning classes.

The ISO thing is what intrests me, I still maintain my 5D was better at ISO than my 1Dsmk3.

Akiwi the wife analogy is far to real for many but same principle.....people should be happy with what they have.

[klippe]

Scott you found duncans sensor cleaning classes.

The ISO thing is what intrests me, I still maintain my 5D was better at ISO than my 1Dsmk3.

Akiwi the wife analogy is far to real for many but same principle.....people should be happy with what they have.

Except when it starts failing on them when they need it to work.

[weka2000]

Except when it starts failing on them when they need it to work.
What starts failing?

[klippe]

The wife.

[akiwi]

The wife.
ROFL:lol::lol:
Hi Cliff, nice to see you here.

[Mevunky]

Ill sell my 40D and go 50D, simply because I can...the cost of upgrade will be small after selling the other body. The extra 5mp for cropping and better ISO + a decent LCD is a fair trade for the few pennies the upgrade will cost. I can't however justify 5D for what I do, but it sure is nice looking.

Plus I don't have any kids, a house or anything else to pay for :)

[low orbit]

Scott you found duncans sensor cleaning classes.

The ISO thing is what intrests me, I still maintain my 5D was better at ISO than my 1Dsmk3.

Akiwi the wife analogy is far to real for many but same principle.....people should be happy with what they have.

Which is exactly why I have the 5D - not the 5D MkII - as my goal.

My logic?

5k for a 5D MkII body (give or take), or 5k for a 5D (pre loved) and some good glass.

It's not rocket science.

The pics I got off Brent's camera are easily good enough for anything I'll ever need to do.

As for the be happy with what you have thing Tony - there's only so much you can do with a p+s ;)

Cheers, Shane.

[klippe]

ROFL:lol::lol:
Hi Cliff, nice to see you here.

Thanks Pete. I have had nothing to say recently, hence my absence. Nor was I interested in being baby-sat after all the recent hoohaa.

Your recently-posted work has been very very cool. Have enjoyed the images.

Cliff

[dgcorner]

Hullo... I see we have a new home! Tony, good to see you are back!

Moppie, thanks for starting GKPE 3 years ago -- we have come a long way!

[Sancho]

.....people should be happy with what they have.

ROFL

[weka2000]

Cheers John. Time out good for rest, relax and refocus.

Sancho did I miss something?

Oh photo time.

[weka2000]

So whos turn

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=568811

Mark from Hamiltion was involved in book1
I was involved in book 2

[Nzshrimper]

well - i have found out today that my balls are not trying to kill me. Which is a slight relief... but this does mean that i now need to find out what is...

So its a case of back to the drawing board.

anyways not going to bore anyone here with my issues... so carry on..

[Moppie]

anyways not going to bore anyone here with my issues... so carry on..


I am glad you have chosen not to burden us with your testicles.


Glad it is good news though :cool:

[weka2000]

So Chris the wife been busting them again :lol:

Just seen this on Trademe
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Digital-cameras/Digital-SLR/auction-175989614.htm

any way low orbit here is where you start
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Digital-cameras/Digital-SLR/auction-175539499.htm

[akiwi]

Cheers John. Time out good for rest, relax and refocus.

Sancho did I miss something?

Oh photo time.
Nice lighting
Nice floor
Uncomfortable looking chair.
I just love the slippers. They would go pretty well with your blue robe Tony.

Who is that?

Chris.. Thank you for sharing that with us.... What are the symptoms?

[weka2000]

Nice lighting
Nice floor
Uncomfortable looking chair.
I just love the slippers. They would go pretty well with your blue robe Tony.

Who is that??

Duncan is not having my robe :lol:

[Mark Vuleta]

... but this does mean that i now need to find out what is...


Chris..... What are the symptoms?


I know what the problem is,... he's allergic to the Mk3, he has been crook ever since he got it:oops:

It should be sold,...pick meeeee:rolleyes:

[weka2000]

I know what the problem is,... he's allergic to the Mk3, he has been crook ever since he got it:oops:

It should be sold,...pick meeeee:rolleyes:

Yes the 300 needs a perfect partner :lol:

[Mark Vuleta]

Yes the 300 needs a perfect partner :lol:


My thoughts exactly!

[Sancho]

Man I can't wait to have the next few months over with and get out on a few shoots again. Been looking at Daves and Brents shoot and am so envious. Good thing is I have quite a few people hassling me for shoots, unfotunately there is no free time until December, and thats if I am lucky :| Shame as I was just starting to feel relaxed at directing people.

[akiwi]

Man I can't wait to have the next few months over with and get out on a few shoots again. Been looking at Daves and Brents shoot and am so envious. Good thing is I have quite a few people hassling me for shoots, unfotunately there is no free time until December, and thats if I am lucky :| Shame as I was just starting to feel relaxed at directing people.
Make time then!
I'm sure you could squeeze in a quick 1 hour shoot sometime.

[Nzshrimper]

Make time then!
I'm sure you could squeeze in a quick 1 hour shoot sometime.

only if its on tuesdays between 3 pm and 5pm .... :rolleyes:

[manipula]

Dave re the new 24L what was the major issue with the old one?

I suspect that issues with resolving power of the high end sensors either current or future may be behind that, but I'm just guessing. Canon guys haven't mentioned any reason at all. (In fact they're still technically to tell us it exists, no emails from Canon NZ to stores about it yet as is normal! :lol)

Why all the teasers over the 5D2 though. I don't seem to recall all that sort of fuss over the 50D or the MK3s. What's so special about the 5D?

From what I can gather and reading between the lines, the general feel about it seems to be that if you're viewing it as a camera in the traditional sense, then it's just plain very, very good, and continues the feel of the original 5D. The big hoohah is about the fact that it does open up possibilities that just didn't exist before. Quite whether that will prove to be as influential in camera development as they think remains to be seen, whether it's as important as the release of the 300D for instance, that kinda thing.

What I think will be happening is that image makers, content to work across the divide of still and moving images will be ready and willing and chomping at the bit to try and exploit the new possibilities. For me, as much as I can't see me using it, from the standpoint of having done a digital media degree, where any and all digital methods of producing work were embraced, I am interested by the possibilities and what the creative types can come up with. If it comes to be that the hybrid role it can either fulfill or begin to establish for future models opens new fields of digital media and artwork, then the release of the 5D2 will be a major, major thing in a few years time. That and the fact that as our rep bragged to me recently, the company is gonna take great delight in showcasing technologies that others have shown first, but actually doing it properly and making it work well as opposed to a half-assed effort. I suspect they're gonna enjoy sticking two fingers up at Nikon as they prove that they get the technology sorted first yet again. (Note I don't say that they'll end up using it to the best effect, as I still think the D300/700/3 lineup is the best range of serious cameras anyone's done in a while).

Bloody amazing what a huge Hoo Haa there is about a camera release.
Most people seem disappointed as it doesn't have a particular bell or whistle that they where hoping for. But 90% of these these bells and whistles won't make better photos.

I essentially said exactly this whilst talking with Tim/tonnes today. As a camera for taking pictures, a lot of the new stuff is irrelevant. As a tool to free up possibilities it holds potential.

If you ignore the hype the Mk2 actually appears to be a great landscape and portrait camera. 5D never was for action, which is what most people seem to be upset about.

Now that i know where to get my sensor cleaned, I'm quite happy with my 5D ;)

LOL at the sensor clean thing... :p

Your comments above though are some of the most relevant about the thing yet IMO. As far as I'm concerned the strengths of the 5D(mk 1) aren't obvious. It's a dust magnet. Its focus points were laid out by idiots. It's not got fast drives or lightning focus. It doesn't have weather sealing. None of which matters a toss.

The original 5D is so damned awesome because of what it leaves out in the pursuit of purity I think. It rocks for landscapes and portraits, and is acceptable at other things. It doesn't chase things it doesn't need, a bit like a Lotus car, engine, brakes, steering and a seat, all else irrelivant. A Lotus is for driving not relaxing in. A 5D is for shooting one main band of images, and it leaves out the stuff you don't need for that. It's that purity of purpose that makes it so special. As someone said recently, three years on, archaic in terms of technology compared to the rest of the range, it still produced arguably the best images of the lot.

So when people moan about no 8fps or no 45 focus points, they're moaning about stuff which isn't necessary for what the cameras strenghts are. They're possibly the wrong people for the camera. I personally think that the video won't be for me, but I admire what it might enable (and I think it's clever marketing and product strategy to include it on this and not others). What I also think though, is that if you strip back the rubbish and stuff to moan about, what's left may just well make the new one of the same breed as the original. Simple sensor, treated well, nice but simple tools to use it. You're the person left to exploit it.

I am interested to see what happens as people start to use it. If it remains dust free and takes the image it ought to, I'm in. ;)

well - i have found out today that my balls are not trying to kill me. Which is a slight relief... but this does mean that i now need to find out what is...

So its a case of back to the drawing board.

anyways not going to bore anyone here with my issues... so carry on..

Officially, very good news man. :) Happy for you.

[Sancho]

Make time then!
I'm sure you could squeeze in a quick 1 hour shoot sometime.

Mmm, lots of factors, I am working around 80 hours a week at the moment as well as planning the wedding, plus we live 30 mins out of town. I also like to spend a good few hours ona shoot, being still pretty inexperienced I tend to lean towards overshooting and experimenting. Then there is the times I do have free are usually during the week when others work....

[weka2000]

Sancho got the weding photographer sorted out?

Dave the 5D has/had a certian magic about it. Yes dust was a pain. Yet it was a nice simple camera that gave great results. Took 1 hell of beating yet never let me down.

Droped on to rocks more than once, left out in the rain, covered in mud, sand and salt water spray ...... and they say its not weather sealed :lol:

[manipula]

Droped on to rocks more than once, left out in the rain, covered in mud, sand and salt water spray ...... and they say its not weather sealed :lol:

I got accused of being an arrogant git the other day for pointing that out and perhaps suggesting the obsession with weather sealing on the 5D2 wish list was a bit pointless... :lol:

[weka2000]

I got accused of being an arrogant git the other day for pointing that out and perhaps suggesting the obsession with weather sealing on the 5D2 wish list was a bit pointless... :lol:
just point them to me :lol:

Hey my cameras are a tool, they are meant to take a bit of abuse, nature of what I shoot. Yet Im also carefull and look after my gear. I do expect a few knocks and yes part of my 1D desison came from shooting out at puke in the rain with no proctection. Would not have done that with the 5D though.

Some people are way over protective others expect to much for what they want to pay

[momentz]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=175989614

1Ds sold for under 2k. Someone picked up a bit of a bargain!!!

[akiwi]

I love a piece of gear that is practical. I like ruggedness. Things made to take knocks and weather are my cup of tea.
my car is an octavia scout. Audi Allroad look alike. 4WD, a bit rugged, but still a station wagen that can do 200 on the autobahn if I push it.
I have a casio sea pathfinder watch. Built to handle the knocks.
Our family compact camera is a Minolta weathermatic, which used to be waterproof to 5 m. Often after using it on the beach, I rinsed it under the tap in fresh water.

So Weather sealing is something that would appeal to me. I use my camera in adverse conditions like in snow storms, rain, on beaches, so knowing that the weather will stay out is nice.

[Mevunky]

Ive taken the 40D out in the rain for hours at a time, hell Tim stood in the pouring rain for hours with he 450D iirc?

Ive had computers with water cooling blow there water all over a motherboard, dry it out and your good to go.

Electronics are far more resilient to water than most people realise especially if the circuits are designed properly, I mean why else does one have a hot water cylinder ;)

[weka2000]

Boy those Mods must be pulling their hair with all the 5Dmk2 threads.
Thrown in a few D700 vs 5Dmk2 to boot and we should not see a mod for months :lol:

Yes the 1Ds was a bargin.

Dave had much dealings with the Leica Digital (m80 I think)? Why so expensive?

Peter is that a typo in your sig 24-70 F4L?

[Mark Vuleta]

Hmmm, nice new house & decoration.

I'll add a little bit to put either on the wall or in the bin.

I have re-done one of the pano's from the other night with some different files.

Let me know what you think.

The first one, I'm not too sure about, perhaps a little bit more croppage.

The second one was a bit of B&W conversion experiment.

http://www.pbase.com/mark_vuleta/image/103299196.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/mark_vuleta/image/103299197.jpg

[akiwi]

Boy those Mods must be pulling their hair with all the 5Dmk2 threads.
Thrown in a few D700 vs 5Dmk2 to boot and we should not see a mod for months :lol:

Yes the 1Ds was a bargin.

Dave had much dealings with the Leica Digital (m80 I think)? Why so expensive?

Peter is that a typo in your sig 24-70 F4L?

Typo.. thanks.

Hmmm, nice new house & decoration.

I'll add a little bit to put either on the wall or in the bin.

I have re-done one of the pano's from the other night with some different files.

Let me know what you think.

The first one, I'm not too sure about, perhaps a little bit more croppage.

The second one was a bit of B&W conversion experiment.

http://www.pbase.com/mark_vuleta/image/103299196.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/mark_vuleta/image/103299197.jpg

Better than the first version.
I like the crop of the B&W image better.

[tonnes]

Ive taken the 40D out in the rain for hours at a time, hell Tim stood in the pouring rain for hours with he 450D iirc?


400D... Twelve hours of photos in the freezing rain with a plastic bag on my head... ahhhh Relay for Life, hours of fun for the whole family.

Killed my feet though. Couldn't walk properly for a few days after.

Pfffft weather sealing.

As for the no 8Fps and less than a million autofocus points (unforgiveable!)... one has to wonder how these "photographers" would be taking photos if autofocus and motor drives hadn't been invented yet.

Give them all rangefinders and see them run about like headless chickens.

I also love how they complain about it having too many pixels, but we all know they'd complain if they kept it at 12.

Ultimately I think you will find that these nay-sayers will be Rebel users mostly, who will have never owned (nor will probably ever own) a 5D or equivelent. They're missing the entire point of the camera and the major (and many more subtle) improvements it seems to offer on paper.


Dave had much dealings with the Leica Digital (m80 I think)? Why so expensive?


The M8? It's a Leica and I suppose it is a pretty unique product, only other digital rangefinder (that I know of) is this: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Epson/epson_rd1.asp

I believe Dave has sold one of the Epson things in his dark mysterious past.

[manipula]

I believe Dave has sold one of the Epson things in his dark mysterious past.

Yup. Heap o'shyte.

Never seen an M8.

[::John::]

Boy those Mods must be pulling their hair with all the 5Dmk2 threads.
Thrown in a few D700 vs 5Dmk2 to boot and we should not see a mod for months :lol:

Yes the 1Ds was a bargin.

Dave had much dealings with the Leica Digital (m80 I think)? Why so expensive?

Peter is that a typo in your sig 24-70 F4L?

Were you looking for one? :lol:

[tonnes]

Yup. Heap o'shyte.

Never seen an M8.

They had one at WPS (hole of Satan and horribly rude salesmen. Not like Colin Kirks). Feels... Expensive...

[tag141]

Except when it starts failing on them when they need it to work.

They have blue pills for that. Do you not read your spam emails?

Oh photo time.

I think Moppies sofa was more comfortable!


http://www.pbase.com/mark_vuleta/image/103299197.jpg

Don't know what it's like full size but that has an almost very detailed painting quality to it.

[Jamie Holladay]

Have you seen this?

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=570929

[jasestu]

I hate when people try to trick you into following links by not telling you what they're linking to and just hoping curiosity will do the trick...

[Nzshrimper]

Have you seen this?

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=570929

Does this not count as spam... :rolleyes:

[weka2000]

Now who have I got to be nice to. Looks around .........well Chris looks like your it :lol:

[manipula]

My problem is that I'm not surrounded 24/7 by a gaggle of beautiful young ladies all wanting my attention.

Link me. :D

[lil_miss]

Make time then!
I'm sure you could squeeze in a quick 1 hour shoot sometime.

I know that feeling.... I've booked at least 10 portrait shoots in the last week all from now leading up to christmas... I have no more weekends free.. lol Not sure what i'll do when I get more enquiries... start taking days off work perhaps.. lol

Have just finished painting the garage and getting some woodgrain lino for the floor - studio will be very fancy pants after that! :) will post photos when its all sorted..

[weka2000]

I know that feeling.... I've booked at least 10 portrait shoots in the last week all from now leading up to christmas... I have no more weekends free.. lol Not sure what i'll do when I get more enquiries... start taking days off work perhaps.. lol

Have just finished painting the garage and getting some woodgrain lino for the floor - studio will be very fancy pants after that! :) will post photos when its all sorted..

So you dont want me to send you a maternity shoot then :rolleyes:

[Don28]

great stuff w/ the shots guys! what a way to start this new home :)

[lil_miss]

So you dont want me to send you a maternity shoot then :rolleyes:

You can if you want :)
I have slots of an hour or so, but no completely free weekends :D

[scotttnz]

From what I can gather and reading between the lines, the general feel about it seems to be that if you're viewing it as a camera in the traditional sense, then it's just plain very, very good, and continues the feel of the original 5D. The big hoohah is about the fact that it does open up possibilities that just didn't exist before. Quite whether that will prove to be as influential in camera development as they think remains to be seen, whether it's as important as the release of the 300D for instance, that kinda thing.

What I think will be happening is that image makers, content to work across the divide of still and moving images will be ready and willing and chomping at the bit to try and exploit the new possibilities. For me, as much as I can't see me using it, from the standpoint of having done a digital media degree, where any and all digital methods of producing work were embraced, I am interested by the possibilities and what the creative types can come up with. If it comes to be that the hybrid role it can either fulfill or begin to establish for future models opens new fields of digital media and artwork, then the release of the 5D2 will be a major, major thing in a few years time. That and the fact that as our rep bragged to me recently, the company is gonna take great delight in showcasing technologies that others have shown first, but actually doing it properly and making it work well as opposed to a half-assed effort. I suspect they're gonna enjoy sticking two fingers up at Nikon as they prove that they get the technology sorted first yet again. (Note I don't say that they'll end up using it to the best effect, as I still think the D300/700/3 lineup is the best range of serious cameras anyone's done in a while).



I essentially said exactly this whilst talking with Tim/tonnes today. As a camera for taking pictures, a lot of the new stuff is irrelevant. As a tool to free up possibilities it holds potential.



LOL at the sensor clean thing... :p

Your comments above though are some of the most relevant about the thing yet IMO. As far as I'm concerned the strengths of the 5D(mk 1) aren't obvious. It's a dust magnet. Its focus points were laid out by idiots. It's not got fast drives or lightning focus. It doesn't have weather sealing. None of which matters a toss.

The original 5D is so damned awesome because of what it leaves out in the pursuit of purity I think. It rocks for landscapes and portraits, and is acceptable at other things. It doesn't chase things it doesn't need, a bit like a Lotus car, engine, brakes, steering and a seat, all else irrelivant. A Lotus is for driving not relaxing in. A 5D is for shooting one main band of images, and it leaves out the stuff you don't need for that. It's that purity of purpose that makes it so special. As someone said recently, three years on, archaic in terms of technology compared to the rest of the range, it still produced arguably the best images of the lot.

So when people moan about no 8fps or no 45 focus points, they're moaning about stuff which isn't necessary for what the cameras strenghts are. They're possibly the wrong people for the camera. I personally think that the video won't be for me, but I admire what it might enable (and I think it's clever marketing and product strategy to include it on this and not others). What I also think though, is that if you strip back the rubbish and stuff to moan about, what's left may just well make the new one of the same breed as the original. Simple sensor, treated well, nice but simple tools to use it. You're the person left to exploit it.

I am interested to see what happens as people start to use it. If it remains dust free and takes the image it ought to, I'm in. ;)

I agree......but I am a little confussed about the inclusion of video in this purist landscape\portrait camera though. I would have thought it was more suited to the general purpose 50D or PJ 1D rather than the 5D? It confuses what all the other features of the 5D Mk2 suggest it was designed for. (ie. landscape\portraits)

I don't think it is a bad thing to have in a camera, I don't know if I would use it personally or not, I just find it a little puzzling that it is in the 5D, but not the 50D given the type of cameras they are. And I'd be very suprised if it is not developed further for the next 1D.

[weka2000]

Canon "Advanced simplicity" ........... the more gizzmos the less simple :lol:
I would have liked a 5D with 21mp. Shame you can keep your camera and upgrade the chip

[Nzshrimper]

hey guys a quick bit of input please -

(my calibration is out i think so before i forward this to the client i would like a quick proofing) cheers in advance...

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u185/nzshrimper/0I8W0397-Edit.jpg

[lil_miss]

Looks slightly yellow in her skin - but other than that ok :)

[Nzshrimper]

Looks slightly yellow in her skin - but other than that ok :)
yes thats what i thought- bloody fake tan .... she sprayed herself yesterday... :rolleyes:

hmm - i will tweak it...

thanks..

[DiscoLizard]

Yup - I was going to say slightly orangeish in her skin... like the photo tho, am sure she'll be pleased.

[Nzshrimper]

edit 2 -


http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u185/nzshrimper/0I8W0397-Edit-11.jpg

any better or worse ?

[TKRFAN]

For those in the Palmy area this weekend, there is a camera expo on. Will be going to have a look.

http://www.manawatunz.co.nz/downloads/caccia%20birch%20Cameraverit%C3%A9%202008%20Poster %202%20for%20jpeg.jpg

[weka2000]

yes thats what i thought- bloody fake tan .... she sprayed herself yesterday... :rolleyes:..

Fake tan is worse under studio lights ......comes out really orange

[Sancho]

Sancho got the weding photographer sorted out?



Yup :)

[weka2000]

Yup :)
Anyone we know :rolleyes:

[Sancho]

of course :)

give you 1 guess... even though its been mentioned in here a few times already :)

[weka2000]

of course :)

give you 1 guess... even though its been mentioned in here a few times already :)

Sorry been away for awhile getting counciling after all the trumor here
Dr said I need to get back in the thick of it to see if the counciling worked :lol:

[Sancho]

yeah, i just tend to visit here myself when its quiet at work, simply dont have the time at home...

heh 7 weeks till the wedding... YIKES!

[lil_miss]

edit 2 -


http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u185/nzshrimper/0I8W0397-Edit-11.jpg

any better or worse ?

Yup lots better! :)


heh 7 weeks till the wedding... YIKES!

Exciting :P :D Cant wait.

[akiwi]

I know that feeling.... I've booked at least 10 portrait shoots in the last week all from now leading up to christmas... I have no more weekends free.. lol Not sure what i'll do when I get more enquiries... start taking days off work perhaps.. lol

Have just finished painting the garage and getting some woodgrain lino for the floor - studio will be very fancy pants after that! :) will post photos when its all sorted..
That garage studio sounds sweet.
I would love something like that, but bacically I need a studio in winter & my garage is way too cold.

For those in the Palmy area this weekend, there is a camera expo on. Will be going to have a look.


That looks cool. I used to live a couple of hundred metres away from there in Victoria Ave.

Mmm, lots of factors, I am working around 80 hours a week at the moment as well as planning the wedding, plus we live 30 mins out of town. I also like to spend a good few hours ona shoot, being still pretty inexperienced I tend to lean towards overshooting and experimenting. Then there is the times I do have free are usually during the week when others work....
80 Hours a week!!!! :shock:
Are you crazy!. I work 50 hours a week (plus 5 hours travel) and find that to be pretty exhausting! It is a long time since I worked 80 in a week, but only when I worked weekends too.

edit 2 -




any better or worse ?
The skin colour is better, but did you change the eyes? I like them more in the first image for some reason.

[Sancho]

Exciting :P :D Cant wait.

Easy for you to say :) Haha, I am looking forward to it, but also quite scared, mostly because I don't really like being the centre of attention, won't have a choice on that 1 day though :|

[lil_miss]

That garage studio sounds sweet.
I would love something like that, but bacically I need a studio in winter & my garage is way too cold.


I guess we're lucky its joined to the house and as such is jibbed and lined etc :)

Easy for you to say :) Haha, I am looking forward to it, but also quite scared, mostly because I don't really like being the centre of attention, won't have a choice on that 1 day though :|

haha not so easy :) the worst subjects are photographers themselves :P lol Nah it should be all fun!

[Sancho]

80 Hours a week!!!! :shock:
Are you crazy!. I work 50 hours a week (plus 5 hours travel) and find that to be pretty exhausting! It is a long time since I worked 80 in a week, but only when I worked weekends too.




I know, tell me about it! And I'm a naturally lazt person so its even more unusual lol

The plan is to knock it back a bit after the wedding and such. probably to 60 - 65 and free up some time for myself. At the moment I do 3 x 12 hour days with the insurance company, 10 - 15 hours design work for my clients 35 - 45 hours on my sales business. Only getting 6 hours sleep max a night too, and I usually need 7 - 8. Got 12 last Sunday, was AWESOME :) Can't believe I havn't had a cold or flu this winter!

[Sancho]

haha not so easy :) the worst subjects are photographers themselves :P lol Nah it should be all fun!

I think you're safe, can we really call someone who has picked up his camera once in 10 weeks a photographer :)

[lil_miss]

I know, tell me about it! And I'm a naturally lazt person so its even more unusual lol

The plan is to knock it back a bit after the wedding and such. probably to 60 - 65 and free up some time for myself. At the moment I do 3 x 12 hour days with the insurance company, 10 - 15 hours design work for my clients 35 - 45 hours on my sales business. Only getting 6 hours sleep max a night too, and I usually need 7 - 8. Got 12 last Sunday, was AWESOME :) Can't believe I havn't had a cold or flu this winter!

I guess if I added up all the time spent on photography stuff I'd probably be up there... I tend not to think about it though.. I dont really feel like its a mission though :) I enjoy doing it

[Sancho]

Mine kind of just happened, I went from doing 40 to pretty much double and look back and wonder how it happened LOL - next goal after the wedding is to get systems in place to make the sales a lot less time consuming where I can, and maybe drop to 2 shifts with the insurance if its still too much.

I'll get there :)

[weka2000]

Sancho is the answer Lil Miss :rolleyes:

Right PC is under final build............ have played around with Server 2008 and hyperV mucked around with other bits and bobs.

So Visa 64 bit, RAID 5 (3x500gb) will get an external 1TB ext week as backup drive.

As for work ........ 8-30am to 3.00pm 5 days a week ......love been the house maid, kids taxi service and the wifes b!tch :lol:
Ive done my time doing long hrs.

Havnt done much photography latley in part due to been board with the same old spots. Need to get further out of Auckland just dosnt inspire me any more.

[low orbit]

Haha thanks Tony for the link to the 400D but I already have a toy camera :lol:

2 digits or less for this kid for my next one ;)

Cheers, Shane.

[akiwi]

Sancho is the answer Lil Miss :rolleyes:

Right PC is under final build............ have played around with Server 2008 and hyperV mucked around with other bits and bobs.

So Visa 64 bit, RAID 5 (3x500gb) will get an external 1TB ext week as backup drive.

As for work ........ 8-30am to 3.00pm 5 days a week ......love been the house maid, kids taxi service and the wifes b!tch :lol:
Ive done my time doing long hrs.

Havnt done much photography latley in part due to been board with the same old spots. Need to get further out of Auckland just dosnt inspire me any more.
If I count my travel time... then that's less than 1/2 what I do... Jeeez I wish I had so much free time.

[Sancho]

Sancho is the answer Lil Miss :rolleyes:


As for work ........ 8-30am to 3.00pm 5 days a week ......love been the house maid, kids taxi service and the wifes b!tch :lol:
Ive done my time doing long hrs.



Good guess :)

Yeah, it wsn't that long ago it seems that I had short hours... Its all good though, means I can pay the mortgage, eat most days and buy the odd toy here and there. Has allowed me to build up a 1/2 decent kit in a fairly short time. But its the usual story, lots of time and no money to buy the toys or lotsa of new toys and no time to play with them :|

The magic word is 'balance' something I don't have a lot of at the moment, but I know its only temporary so I'm not stressing too much about it all.

[weka2000]

If I count my travel time... then that's less than 1/2 what I do... Jeeez I wish I had so much free time.

And I live 5 min drive from home to work :lol:
Free time well thats a nother matter ....do dishes,get dinner ready, do watching, bring washing in,sort out kids ............ :rolleyes:

Good guess :)

The magic word is 'balance' something I don't have a lot of at the moment, but I know its only temporary so I'm not stressing too much about it all.

Balance is the key . 8hrs work, 8hrs play, 8 hrs sleep ....... works for me ;)
Wifes a bit different ....12hrs work, 8 hrs sleep, 4 hrs .......... study, kids, house work, sorting out hubby

[Raikyn]

stuff...

I thought you were banned from chat.
I quite enjoyed only having to read a page per day :p

[momentz]

*subscribes to new thread


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/evobit/Caldina/_MG_727801_web.jpg

[weka2000]

I thought you were banned from chat.
I quite enjoyed only having to read a page per day :p

"Self imposed exile" ........... I needed to step back and take a chill pill basicaly.

Momentz, Dont mind the HDR but the UWA takes a bit to get used to :lol:

[Raikyn]

Momentz, Dont mind the HDR but the ricer takes a bit to get used to

;)

kidding

[Mevunky]

Snapshots from tonight's cruising and time wasting...nothing special, did notice the bottom shot looks a bit like nothing at 900 pixels, then again it wasn't much to start with :cool:

[manipula]

Where's shot #2 dude?

[Mevunky]

Where's shot #2 dude?

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Wellington,+Wellington,+New+Zealand&ie=UTF8&ll=-41.280387,174.906206&spn=0.012094,0.018153&t=h&z=16

I was standing on that wharf, pretty sure it was that one. Looking towards the houses front of it on the road as per photo. flickr version looks less compressed/resized to hell:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mevunky/2869541251/sizes/l/

[tag141]

... do watching, ............ :rolleyes:

Is that a typo or do you really 'do watching'.

I do 37 hours a week. Get heaps of time during the day as I either start frickin early and finish early or start late and finish late (and get paid about 50% more than I did in NZ for doing more hours.)

[weka2000]

Is that a typo or do you really 'do watching'.

Hey its always a typo with me :lol:

Well last week the NZ herald produced the AA 101 places must see handout. I got all inspired.

So got thinking. Who would be keen for a lads weekend on Great Barrier Is.

This week I AM GOING to the snow before it all melts.

Lil Miss what was the name and contact for that business course,its time I got off my a$$.
Ive got the tools,skill and goal now I need to make it happen ( edit I want some new glass) and wife wont let me use q-card :(

[Sancho]

Thats always a good way to stay motivated though Tony. Thats why I am doinng the hard yards at the moment, I put my entire paid salary onto our mortgage so that forces me to do other things to eat/drive and buy toys. We are trying to nail as much of our mortgage as we can before little people start appearing in the nearish future and we may be reduced to a single income for some time. Plus I REALLY want to be mortgage free as soon as possible so we can tour the world in our old age if I make it that far.

[iKirst]

You can't all sneak away from me that easily.. ;)

[weka2000]

For those interested

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canoneos5dmarkII/

5D mk2 Preview

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canoneos50d/

50D preview


Kirst how are you darling?

[Sancho]

Brent or those in the know, do pocketwizards come with all the cables needed? I have done a bit of a search but can't seem to find the info, that and some of the sites that might help are blocked here at work. Thinking of getting a set or 4.

[Mevunky]

Friend is looking for tripod in ChCh, what are the pro stores down there?

[Sancho]

Photo and video in Merevale mall. that or kens digital in the central city

[scotttnz]

Friend is looking for tripod in ChCh, what are the pro stores down there?

I went to Auckland camera to look at tripods today.......very frustrating. I want a decent tripod, but I can't bring myself to part with $400-500 for 1! :evil:

Any recommendations? Must be suitable for holding the 5D with 70-200 f2.8 (and maybe something a bit bigger) but not be to big and heavy to cart around.

[akiwi]

Hey its always a typo with me :lol:

Well last week the NZ herald produced the AA 101 places must see handout. I got all inspired.

So got thinking. Who would be keen for a lads weekend on Great Barrier Is.

This week I AM GOING to the snow before it all melts.

Lil Miss what was the name and contact for that business course,its time I got off my a$$.
Ive got the tools,skill and goal now I need to make it happen ( edit I want some new glass) and wife wont let me use q-card :(
Now just DO IT!... Good goals.

Thats always a good way to stay motivated though Tony. Thats why I am doinng the hard yards at the moment, I put my entire paid salary onto our mortgage so that forces me to do other things to eat/drive and buy toys. We are trying to nail as much of our mortgage as we can before little people start appearing in the nearish future and we may be reduced to a single income for some time. Plus I REALLY want to be mortgage free as soon as possible so we can tour the world in our old age if I make it that far.
Another great goal. I have another 19 years of my mortgage to pay off.:( But I have children already, and had one when I started the mortgage.

I went to Auckland camera to look at tripods today.......very frustrating. I want a decent tripod, but I can't bring myself to part with $400-500 for 1! :evil:

Any recommendations? Must be suitable for holding the 5D with 70-200 f2.8 (and maybe something a bit bigger) but not be to big and heavy to cart around.
I have the Manfrotto 190 Pro. It is pretty stable and smaller and lighter than the 550. I like the smaller size and lightness when it is on my back, but when I am using it I always have to stoop a little. Decide what size you will be happy with then decide how much $$ you are willing to part with to make it lighter.

[lil_miss]

Lil Miss what was the name and contact for that business course,its time I got off my a$$.
Ive got the tools,skill and goal now I need to make it happen ( edit I want some new glass) and wife wont let me use q-card :(

http://www.ochrebusiness.com/wawcs0111055/idDetails=134/Certificate%20in%20Small%20Business%20Management

[Mevunky]

I have the Manfrotto 190 Pro. It is pretty stable and smaller and lighter than the 550. I like the smaller size and lightness when it is on my back, but when I am using it I always have to stoop a little. Decide what size you will be happy with then decide how much $$ you are willing to part with to make it lighter.

After staring at the Manfrotto site for hours one day I also came to the same conclusion. After finding out pricing in New Zealand I decided to keep using my 70's Velbon which is built to last forever. Its not light but is 'feature' rich to the point where id have to spend far to much to get something of the same caliber/build for the little usage it gets.

[Raikyn]

Along for the ride

http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/1108/swan1800x533xf2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[joeseph]

9 pages & I haven't decorated our new room yet. :rolleyes:

*rushes out & takes snaps*

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[weka2000]

I went to Auckland camera to ............
no one wanted to serve me :confused:
14mm sitting there .....no big whites. Had a good look in the Nikon display :p

[Moppie]

Chris and Cliff here is something a little different in the motorsport forum:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=571729

Now imagine that as a 1/30th pan from the exit at the A1GP :D

[momentz]

Chris and Cliff here is something a little different in the motorsport forum:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=571729

Now imagine that as a 1/30th pan from the exit at the A1GP :D

I thought tilt-shift was used to remove perspective distortion? What is it about the TS lens that is able to blur that way? :oops:

[lil_miss]

Here's what I did today - two different shoots.

[weka2000]

Half of what I go up to today

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=6345249#post6345249

[Moppie]

I thought tilt-shift was used to remove perspective distortion? What is it about the TS lens that is able to blur that way? :oops:


They have two movements (tilt and ****).
One adjusts perspective, the other adjusts the focal plane.

Dave will know more about them, I've never used one, but would love to give it a try.

[weka2000]

1 min exposure

[lil_miss]

That's awesome - which beach is that?

[Mevunky]

Nice Weka, reminds me of the guy who did some of the Vista wallpapers, he has a lot of nice similar images on his site also, certainly worth checking out.

[akiwi]

Here's what I did today - two different shoots.
Those are great, I love the eyes of that Baby.

1 min exposure
Beautiful . Love the colour.
Composition is naf. Horizon is too centred and it's crooked.

[akiwi]

REVIEW: Practical photographys "Get started in landscapes" CD.

I know it isn't the best photo mag in the world, but I was given a subscription as a present.
This month is a free CD rom titled "Get started in landscapes".
I watched it today and thoroughly enjoyed it. It is pretty basic, but in my opinion very professionally put together and beautifully filmed.
Video quality isn't the greatest sometimes, as full screen it is a bit pixilated, but for the price of a magazine I think it is worth it.

[weka2000]

Beautiful . Love the colour.
Composition is naf. Horizon is too centred and it's crooked.

Sorry about that but it was a shot in the dark basically. Couldnt focus or see anything.

Lil Miss far end of Maori bay, Murawai

[weka2000]

Ok for you Peter.

This 1 is 1 I am happy enough to print. This is the quality I expect of my self on a bad day.

Woops I see foot prints and may need trim at top to make it 1/3 (see Mark I listen)

[low orbit]

Photo sharing huh? What a concept.

Mine from today. Your thoughts?

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc83/low_orbt/Relaxing.jpg

Cheers, Shane.

[Mevunky]

Ok if thats what we are doing...Weka, nice, very nice, mine pales in comparison :(

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3059/2871717261_02722caef5_b.jpg

[akiwi]

Ok for you Peter.

This 1 is 1 I am happy enough to print. This is the quality I expect of my self on a bad day.

Woops I see foot prints and may need trim at top to make it 1/3 (see Mark I listen)
That mate is F..ing perfect!

Photo sharing huh? What a concept.

Mine from today. Your thoughts?



Cheers, Shane.
Cool Chane. Would have liked to see the face... Or is it the kid of a promi who wants to stay anonomyous ;)

Ok if thats what we are doing...Weka, nice, very nice, mine pales in comparison :(


Also cool.. but all very centred.

[akiwi]

Ok a couple from me.

These are all natural light.
1.
http://www.peterhansenfoto.de/singapore/galleries/Sessions/2008/09%20September/13%20Sonnentau/3439Sonnentau_sm.jpg

2.
http://www.peterhansenfoto.de/singapore/galleries/Sessions/2008/09%20September/13%20Sonnentau/3468Sonnentau_sm.jpg

3.
http://www.peterhansenfoto.de/singapore/galleries/Sessions/2008/09%20September/13%20Sonnentau/3491Sonnentau_Blue_sm.jpg

[manipula]

Lots of cool photos. Interesting stuff from Peter, liking the sideways hair, though time for a new location? ;) Cool stuff from Stefan, though not too hot on the blown highlights. Nice stuff from Tony, but step away from the saturation slider. :( Shane, I like that as a nice family image, but I wonder if it'd have been better with an angle showing a bit of face?

Me? I am completely totally in the bad place tonight. The model from last weekend who lit such a huge fire under me and my pictures, has been round for dinner as she leaves on Mon. Really gutted, like genuinely down about it. :(

[akiwi]

I agree with the saturation comment on Tony's photo.. maybe drop it a tiny bit.
It was probably the last time I can use that location till next summer as it is getting too cold here now.
What do you mean the model is leaving?? Isn't that always the case!

When do we get to see more from that shoot Dave?

[manipula]

What do you mean the model is leaving?? Isn't that always the case!

When do we get to see more from that shoot Dave?

She was due to be in Wellington for some time, but due to various reasons of her own, leaves for some far flung corner of NZ on Monday morning. Things last week went so well for me that I was totally looking forward to shooting with her more, and kinda developing myself and ideas, and getting really stuck into things. Helps that she's an amazingly cool person too and a riot to be around. Quite down about her moving on, both on a personal 'missing a new friend' thing and a photographic thing... :?

More photos coming soon hopefully, maybe tomorrow, got some edited but been so busy this week not really had time to wade through them.

On the plus side I did come home today with a shiny new Kona mountain bike and some associated bits. Try and get back into my former love of cycling and get fitter/allow me to eat more. :)

[low orbit]

That mate is F..ing perfect!


Cool Chane. Would have liked to see the face... Or is it the kid of a promi who wants to stay anonomyous ;)


Also cool.. but all very centred.

I agree, although in context (he was shielding his face from the sun to look at a flying kite) it kinda works. Would have been better if it ere not though, but I'm good at breaking "the rules" :lol:

Ok a couple from me.

These are all natural light.
1.


2.


3.


1 and 2 are my favourites there, reminds me of climbing trees!

Lots of cool photos. Interesting stuff from Peter, liking the sideways hair, though time for a new location? ;) Cool stuff from Stefan, though not too hot on the blown highlights. Nice stuff from Tony, but step away from the saturation slider. :( Shane, I like that as a nice family image, but I wonder if it'd have been better with an angle showing a bit of face?

Me? I am completely totally in the bad place tonight. The model from last weekend who lit such a huge fire under me and my pictures, has been round for dinner as she leaves on Mon. Really gutted, like genuinely down about it. :(


Yep, as above I wouldn't have minded but as a candid I'm quite happy with it.

Buck up lad, you'll be right as rain and you have loads of support here :D

Cheers, Shane.

[weka2000]

Cheers guys, yes saturation needs to be tonned back.

Peter your model photography is getting better and better Im envious.
I never did have the "artisic" touch.

Dave I understand where your comming from. I always wanted a model who was keen to meet often to try ideas and allow me to develop and learn. Never happened. 2 shoots was the most.
Oh for a model wife sometimes :rolleyes:

Model photography has got to be the most fun and frustrating of all photography. Alas more frustrating than fun..

Lil Miss thanks for the link. I will get some details off to the woman who I know maybe intrested in some maturnity pics.

[MercuryFree]

Oh hi New Zealand, what's going on here? :)

[Sancho]

Ok a couple from me.

These are all natural light.


3.
http://www.peterhansenfoto.de/singapore/galleries/Sessions/2008/09%20September/13%20Sonnentau/3491Sonnentau_Blue_sm.jpg

WOW! I LOVE this shot... one of the best I have seen for a while, great work! That is seriously poster stuff! Heh - I seem to say that about your work a bit though don't I :) The only thing with this image is the frame for me personally, I don't think it does the image justice at all.

[Mevunky]

Lots of cool photos. Interesting stuff from Peter, liking the sideways hair, though time for a new location? ;) Cool stuff from Stefan, though not too hot on the blown highlights. Nice stuff from Tony, but step away from the saturation slider. :( Shane, I like that as a nice family image, but I wonder if it'd have been better with an angle showing a bit of face?

Blown highlights...ill show you a blown highlight :cool: :p

I was wondering what was wrong with that image, now i I know all to well. You are wise beyond..........enough with the cliche's.

Oh hi New Zealand, what's going on here?

Welcome child.

Also when is the next meet, mini meet, or 'Tha WTGNMASSIVE' meet as I sorely missed out on the last one due to some fail circumstances, if a Wellington one needs to be orginised im sure between me Daveblownhighlights and a few others it could easily be done.

[dgcorner]

Havnt done much photography latley in part due to been board with the same old spots. Need to get further out of Auckland just dosnt inspire me any more.

Tony, have you seen the book: Excellent Short walks in the North Island? Really good stuff i there

*subscribes to new thread




Neat stuff Aaron!

I went to Auckland camera to look at tripods today.......very frustrating. I want a decent tripod, but I can't bring myself to part with $400-500 for 1! :evil:

Any recommendations? Must be suitable for holding the 5D with 70-200 f2.8 (and maybe something a bit bigger) but not be to big and heavy to cart around.

Mines the 3021BPro or the local equivalent is the 190BPro (not sure why the different model numbers here and in the US. Really good and stable... though can be heavy on long walks. Have you had a look at www.feisol.com (http://www.feisol.com)?

Along for the ride



Cool!

9 pages & I haven't decorated our new room yet. :rolleyes:

*rushes out & takes snaps*

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Wow, IR photography? Did you convert one of your toys?

Here's what I did today - two different shoots.

Nice shots! Makes me want to convert my garage into a studio too!

1 min exposure

Nice one though as the others say -- so unlike you to post a wonky horizon...

Ok for you Peter.

This 1 is 1 I am happy enough to print. This is the quality I expect of my self on a bad day.

Woops I see foot prints and may need trim at top to make it 1/3 (see Mark I listen)

Now that I really like... and yes, agree with the others to tone down on sat.

Photo sharing huh? What a concept.

Mine from today. Your thoughts?



Cheers, Shane.

Liek someone said... a face would be good...

Ok if thats what we are doing...Weka, nice, very nice, mine pales in comparison :(



Neat!

Ok a couple from me.

These are all natural light.
1.


2.


3.


Very good as usual Peter!

[manipula]

Oh hi New Zealand, what's going on here? :)

Welcome. Here is the Kiwi quarter of this fine forum, where sarchasm reigns, humour is demanded, the odd tantrum ensues, and all made up of entirely half-decent folk. ;) Oh, and a load of them here are pretty good with cameras too. Stick around, ignore it when the feathers fly, as the rewards are worth it. :)

Blown highlights...ill show you a blown highlight :cool: :p

I was wondering what was wrong with that image, now i I know all to well. You are wise beyond..........enough with the cliche's.

I am not wise! Just taken enough shyte by now to realise the same mistakes I made/still make.

Also when is the next meet, mini meet, or 'Tha WTGNMASSIVE' meet as I sorely missed out on the last one due to some fail circumstances, if a Wellington one needs to be orginised im sure between me Daveblownhighlights and a few others it could easily be done.

Was there a last one since the dawn thing? :? Any meet either needs to be a social or have a decent theme going on. No use all piling up at the zoo or a beach or Te Papa or whatever then saying our hellos and then staring blankly at eachother whilst we wonder what we ought to photograph and just taking any all rubbish for the sake of it. Need an idea or a theme to shoot I think.