I'm a PC

[DozerLYP]

the comeback of Windows on the PC Mac commercials
Linky (http://www.geekologie.com/2008/09/microsofts_new_im_a_pc_commerc.php)

[kauffman v36]

this is one of my favorite commercials in a long long time. very classy yet very sneaky. perfect IMO to comeback apples very blunt commercials.

[shannyD]

IM a PC too. :) i love that commercial.

[Bobster]

i'm a fish?!

[gary88]

Looks like the Jerry Seinfeld thing didn't work out

[darosk]

I think the ads are really cute, to be honest.
I like them.

[GM_of_OLC]

Looks like the Jerry Seinfeld thing didn't work out
Fortunately, they're still doing them, I find them quite enjoyable.
I remember reading a good analysis about how those commercials are actually jabs at apple, but I can't find it.

[manutd101]

I find them annoying. Now I know how PC users felt when the Mac commercials came on :-)

[midnight_rider]

I liked the mojave experiment. It really showed how word of mouth can mislead people.

[SteveBrown]

I'm not a PC, got a HP laptop, fully loaded, and after almost 12 hours in 2 days of tech support to India, I sent that POS back and ordered a mac. I also just spent 4 hours trying to get corrupted files out of my PC before I give it to my daughter. I cant wait to be a MAC!

[Stealthy Ninja]

Well....

I have a Mac. I thought the ad was pretty good actually. Must have been edited with final cut pro. :lol:

Oh please, please, please don't let this degrade into pointless arguments on Mac vs PC. If you like what you have then just use it.


BTW Macs are better than PCs :p

Only comment below if you've used BOTH. Heh heh. Maybe I'm turning into a troll here. :lol: This is fun.

[alexg]

BTW Macs are better than PCs :p


macs are pcs with just a different operating system. if you think they break down less, you have another thing coming for you :)

[stathunter]

I swore I would always be a PC and never break down to get a sissy, freak, peace lovin, girly geek machine like a Mac. But after dealing with personal issues (Vista), in frustration I ordered an iMac......well I will never be a PC again.

[FlyingPhotog]

Well....

I have a Mac. I thought the ad was pretty good actually. Must have been edited with final cut pro. :lol:

Oh please, please, please don't let this degrade into pointless arguments on Mac vs PC. If you like what you have then just use it.


BTW Macs are better than PCs :p

Only comment below if you've used BOTH. Heh heh. Maybe I'm turning into a troll here. :lol: This is fun.

Avid running on NT ... :p

[DozerLYP]

get a sissy, freak, peace lovin, girly geek machine like a Mac.

enough said :p











Oh yeah, and I'm a PC...

[GM_of_OLC]

Oh please, please, please don't let this degrade into pointless arguments on Mac vs PC. If you like what you have then just use it.
BTW Macs are better than PCs :p
Only comment below if you've used BOTH. Heh heh. Maybe I'm turning into a troll here. :lol: This is fun.
I don't have it, and I don't like it either. (But I'm forced to use it, our newspaper is made on them.)
I know the old "macs can't right click" thing is old so I came up with a new one:

Why can you only resize a window by dragging the lower right corner?

[gjl711]

Mac owners are so feisty because they have small wieners. ;)

http://www.lobels.com/graphics/meatpicssmall/cocktail_wieners_sm.jpg

Well, that’s what I heard… :):)

Hey wait... I have a PC and a Mac... Whats that make me?

[Lonnie]

I don't get why it's PC vs Mac anyway... Shouldn't it be Windows vs. Mac OS?

[gjl711]

I don't get why it's PC vs Mac anyway... Shouldn't it be Windows vs. Mac OS?HEY!!! What about Linux/Unix? It's always getting the shaft. Stevie and Billie rip it off, slap their own name on it and pretend they have invented something.:confused:;):)

[breal101]

While I watching the video I heard my e-mail chime. When I checked the mail it was from Apple wanting to sell me an i-mac. :shock: Steve Jobs is watching me. :lol:

I'm still a Mac.

[Moppie]

Hey wait... I have a PC and a Mac... Whats that make me?


Average :lol::lol::lol:


But don't feel to bad, after useing Linux and OS-X at work, then Vista at home, I am finding mine has developed a bit of an S bend.

[Keegan]

I really enjoyed the commercial. Done nicely and not over the top.

[DerekRob]

I'm a pc, photograph, strings. and part human :)

[mattograph]

Im an MC, or a Pac.....

In fact, I'm using Safari on a Dell right now!

[Moppie]

Im an MC, or a Pac.....

In fact, I'm using Safari on a Dell right now!

Kinky.

I'm useing firefox on Linux, on my Dell right now.

I'm going to go an open a KPDF and then do some work in open office.

oh baby.

[mattograph]

Kinky.

I'm useing firefox on Linux, on my Dell right now.

I'm going to go an open a KPDF and then do some work in open office.

oh baby.

:)

;)

:shock:

[mbellot]

BTW Macs are better than PCs :p

Only comment below if you've used BOTH. Heh heh. Maybe I'm turning into a troll here. :lol: This is fun.

Macs have become over priced PC's running a beautified (sissified) version of Linux.

If your Mac has an Intel processor inside its not really a Mac, now is it? :p

I've owned and used Macs all the way back to the original, and the II+ and IIe before them.

That said, I am most definitely a PC. :lol:

EDIT: And for anyone who thinks Macs don't crash, here's a blast form the past (1984 to be exact).

[Lonnie]

I really enjoy building my own desktops and buying affordable laptops, so until something changes, MAC OS is out for me.

[Stealthy Ninja]

Avid running on NT ... :p

AVID... dude. Poor you. :p

I don't have it, and I don't like it either. (But I'm forced to use it, our newspaper is made on them.)
I know the old "macs can't right click" thing is old so I came up with a new one:

Why can you only resize a window by dragging the lower right corner?

Is that all you can come up with. LOL :lol:


All I can say is this:
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9115120&intsrc=hm_list

LOL


Oh and macs don't crash, programs crash. It doesn't make you restart your computer just because windows media player couldn't play an AVI files. :p

To be honest, whatever you guys say I just laugh. This is fun. :D

That's the smug satisfaction you get knowing that the OS you're on is better. :lol:

I used a PC for many years (7-8 years). I can build them myself even (not that hard really). I use to use all the arguments you're making against Mac. :lol:

Now I've actually used one for a while and haven't had half the problems losing work etc. from crashes and failures etc. I'm more than happy to say Mac OS is better than Windows.

The comment that they are actually PCs because they have an intel chip is really is true. They are PERSONAL computers. That's right. What they are not is... VISTA! LOL.

Come on, someone say the only reason Macs don't get viruses is that no one uses them, so there is no point writing a virus for it. Then someone else point out there is a virus made for mac.

Never mind that to download it you have to be browsing some obscure porn site, click to download a movie codec (why would you need to do that on a mac?? :p ) Then put your password in (and go through an installation process) to install it. If you're dumb enough to do that, you deserve the 1 or 2 viruses made for a mac. LOL

Nothing personal here guys, this is just fun.

Oh oh, I just remembered. Some PC/linux guy better say something like: "Macs don't have any open source programs." I've heard that one too. lol

[Belmondo]

I'm a moderator. I can do damage on either platform.

[gjl711]

I'm a moderator. I can do damage on either platform.Do you do it moderately?;)

[Stealthy Ninja]

Macs have become over priced PC's running a beautified (sissified) version of Linux.

If your Mac has an Intel processor inside its not really a Mac, now is it? :p

I've owned and used Macs all the way back to the original, and the II+ and IIe before them.

That said, I am most definitely a PC. :lol:

EDIT: And for anyone who thinks Macs don't crash, here's a blast form the past (1984 to be exact).

I have to ask, when did you become a PC? When's the last time you used a mac. (real question, not trolling).

I'm a moderator. I can do damage on either platform.

Sorry, I'm on a mac. It just crashed because I had a virus. What did you say? Safari can't interpret the font correctly on your statement. I better download a codec/font/plugin.*

Man I wish I had a PC. :lol:

:p

That was trolling. J/K

* Mac needs to download codecs etc. too (for avi/wmv mainly)

[GM_of_OLC]

All I can say is this:
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9115120&intsrc=hm_list

Microsoft hired an advertising agency to make the commercial for them. The agency probably used macs.



* Mac needs to download codecs etc. too (for avi/wmv mainly)
VLC is pure awesomeness (comes with almost every codec imaginable).


Is that all you can come up with. LOL :lol:

All? I don't need anything more. I like my windows nice and neat and sometimes want two right next to each other. I am forced to do a trial and error thing about 5 times before I get it the right size. And then there's always a little gap which drives me crazy.

I do, however, like a mac's eject [card reader/external] system. Just drag and drop.

[Moppie]

I like my windows nice and neat and sometimes want two right next to each other.


Have you ever tried two different windows at the same time?
Take a vista window, and a mac window, and put one on each side of you.

If your feeling really adventerous you can add a Linux window on top...........



:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

[Stealthy Ninja]

My extremely intelligent comments in bold.
Microsoft hired an advertising agency to make the commercial for them. The agency probably used macs.
What, creative people using a mac... shocking. :p



VLC is pure awesomeness (comes with almost every codec imaginable).
VLC for mac is also very useful. ;) I have it too.


All? I don't need anything more. I like my windows nice and neat and sometimes want two right next to each other. I am forced to do a trial and error thing about 5 times before I get it the right size. And then there's always a little gap which drives me crazy.
Exposé (and Spaces) makes up for it by far. 5 times... dude, have you got a hand-shake problem? :p

I do, however, like a mac's eject [card reader/external] system. Just drag and drop.

Also the install/uninstall (in most cases) just drag an icon into applications (to install), then drag it into trash (to uninstall)

[mbellot]

I have to ask, when did you become a PC? When's the last time you used a mac. (real question, not trolling).


Mid 80's, same time I started using Macs. ;)

FWIW - I am 99.99% certain the first personal computer virus was written for the Apple II series, but that doesn't mean Macs are worth the effort. :p

I couldn't put an exact date on my last Mac experience, but its safe to say about a decade (mid to late nineties, shortly before they succumbed to the power of Wintel).

[Stealthy Ninja]

Mid 80's, same time I started using Macs. ;)

FWIW - I am 99.99% certain the first personal computer virus was written for the Apple II series, but that doesn't mean Macs are worth the effort. :p

I couldn't put an exact date on my last Mac experience, but its safe to say about a decade (mid to late nineties, shortly before they succumbed to the power of Wintel).

Oh, so you quit before macs got really good :p

No wonder you gave up. Back then (Mac OS 9 days) macs were buggy as a PC and not very good. Mac OS X is much, much better.

Give it a go dude. :D

[gary88]

Long time Windows user just turned Mac here, couldn't be happier with the switch :cool:

[Stealthy Ninja]

Long time Windows user just turned Mac here, couldn't be happier with the switch :cool:

Typical. :rolleyes:

Welcome to the light side brother :D (yes it IS a cult :lol: ).

[DerekRob]

Typical. :rolleyes:

Welcome to the light side brother :D (yes it IS a cult :lol: ).

Hey SN, I might be switching to a mini mac.

[Belmondo]

Hey SN, I might be switching to a mini mac.

You only have to join a mini cult.

[DerekRob]

You only have to join a mini cult.LOL.

Well I'm tired of stupid erros my pc gives me once in a blue moon, For example your out of memory and you may want to reboot when I have 4 gigs of ddram 2.

[gary88]

Typical. :rolleyes:

Welcome to the light side brother :D (yes it IS a cult :lol: ).

Cool! When do we get to sacrifice something?

[Stealthy Ninja]

Hey SN, I might be switching to a mini mac.

Mac minis are cool, but I'd go for a macbook (spend a little more). That's just me.

Hey, I have access to 3 macs. x2 macpro (one at home, one at work) and a macbook pro (owned by my work, but I basically use it as my own).

Awesomeness.

^^Yes, you need to sacrifice Norton.

[DerekRob]

Mac minis are cool, but I'd go for a macbook (spend a little more). That's just me.

Hey, I have access to 3 macs. x2 macpro (one at home, one at work) and a macbook pro (owned by my work, but I basically use it as my own).

Awesomeness.

^^Yes, you need to sacrifice Norton.If my college is still giving a free laptop's away when you resister and attend classes I will ask for a mac book instead of my crappy gateway notebook.

[breal101]

My windows machine is being punished, she's such a slut. She brought home too many ITDs(internet transmitted disease) so now she can't play there anymore. I'm fearless with my Mac, Russian porns sites ha bring it on. They can't hurt me hahaha. :lol:

[DerekRob]

My windows machine is being punished, she's such a slut. She brought home too many ITDs(internet transmitted disease) so now she can't play there anymore. I'm fearless with my Mac, Russian porns sites ha bring it on. They can't hurt me hahaha. :lol:Hahaha funny stuff.


Well I know I can play half life 2 at max video settings and crysis at max video's but games is for people who have too much time on their hands.


By the way I run ati crossfire with duel 3850's

[Belmondo]

I'm pretty smug about my Mac. Whenever we get a suspicious link here on the forum, I check it with my Mac. The PC rarely goes online.

I don't want to get too smug about it, though. If we gloat too much about how safe we are, someone will take it as a special 'challenge' to create a Mac virus.

[Stealthy Ninja]

Hahaha funny stuff.


Well I know I can play half life 2 at max video settings and crysis at max video's but games is for people who have too much time on their hands.


By the way I run ati crossfire with duel 3850's

I can do the same on my macpro running bootcamp. But hey, you can't have everything... on a PC. :p

[DerekRob]

I'm pretty smug about my Mac. Whenever we get a suspicious link here on the forum, I check it with my Mac. The PC rarely goes online.

I don't want to get too smug about it, though. If we gloat too much about how safe we are, someone will take it as a special 'challenge' to create a Mac virus.Just get Peter Griffin to make a mac virus hes special LOL.


But if I get a suspicious link I just virus scan it with grissoft virus email scanner.

[DozerLYP]

I have Vista 64 on the PC that I build since it came out in Jan 07 and it never crashed once.

[DerekRob]

I can do the same on my macpro running bootcamp. But hey, you can't have everything... on a PC. :pI know I miss f14 phantom the game "it was the best for a mac game"

[Belmondo]

There was a great shareware Tetris game that only works on OS 9 and earlier. I have to keep an old, purple iMac runing so my wife can play it.

[theflyingkiwi]

I'm a moderator. I can do damage on either platform.

I could say sooooo many things that would get me banded on this forum. :p

[theflyingkiwi]

the comeback of Windows on the PC Mac commercials
Linky (http://www.geekologie.com/2008/09/microsofts_new_im_a_pc_commerc.php)

just out of interest why should MS have a comeback.

it's apple that's trying to catch MS, not the other way around.

[Stealthy Ninja]

I have Vista 64 on the PC that I build since it came out in Jan 07 and it never crashed once.

See that button that says "on" don't press it. :p

I have vista on one of my computers (yes I have a windows computer too). If I opened a file in windows media centre, it just froze and crashed. Then firefox will sometimes randomly close when using flash. Weird.

[Belmondo]

I could say sooooo many things that would get me banded on this forum. :p

Nah. Not you.;)

[theflyingkiwi]

Nah. Not you.;)

does that mean I can try? :lol:

[Lonnie]

Vista is pretty bad, last time I tried it. I uninstalled it from my laptop and installed XP Pro. Rock solid for me.

I've got a laptop and a desktop, both 2 gigs of RAM, both dual-core cpu's. They are both running Win XP Pro. I've got a total of $1,200 invested in these two machines and they fit my needs perfectly. If Mac could even come close to that number I might give it a shot.

[Stealthy Ninja]

Vista is pretty bad, last time I tried it. I uninstalled it from my laptop and installed XP Pro. Rock solid for me.

I've got a laptop and a desktop, both 2 gigs of RAM, both dual-core cpu's. They are both running Win XP Pro. I've got a total of $1,200 invested in these two machines and they fit my needs perfectly. If Mac could even come close to that number I might give it a shot.

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/mac_mini?mco=MTI5MTI

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/macbook?mco=MTIyMTM

Try that. That's close to that number. ;)

[Moppie]

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/mac_mini?mco=MTI5MTI

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/macbook?mco=MTIyMTM

Try that. That's close to that number. ;)


Its about $800 away, and there is no screen, mouse or keyboard with the Mac mini, and unlike a desktop can't be upgraded easily.

Have you ever tried to use a 13inch macbook?
The screen size is VERY limited, especially with that silly icon bar across the bottom.


Nice try though. :rolleyes::p

[Lonnie]

Try that. That's close to that number.

No, it's not even close. Even with those low-end models (MacMini w/ 1GB RAM and 80GB HDD), the $ difference is still huge. I should point out that my number does not include a monitor for the desktop.

[Stealthy Ninja]

Its about $800 away, and there is no screen, mouse or keyboard with the Mac mini, and unlike a desktop can't be upgraded easily.

Have you ever tried to use a 13inch macbook?
The screen size is VERY limited, especially with that silly icon bar across the bottom.


Nice try though. :rolleyes::p

That's the dock. You can put it on the side.

Yes I have tried a 13 inch macbook. I have to sort of agree with you.

You can upgrade the RAM and HDD on Macs. Not the CPU and the Graphics cards are difficult (you have to buy the right one).

If you love upgrading and playing around, google "hackintosh".

No, it's not even close. Even with those low-end models (MacMini w/ 1GB RAM and 80GB HDD), the $ difference is still huge. I should point out that my number does not include a monitor for the desktop.

You have one (monitor and keyboard) already.

Try the iMac.

Again, google "hackintosh"

Try matching the specs of your homebuilt one with a DELL. You find macs are not too bad (stable too).

Still can't please everyone. If you're on a budget, PC is better no doubt. You do have to buy windows... or maybe go linux (save more money).

$1200 for two computers you say... let's try this:
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?sf=wHF2F2PHCCCX72KDY&nclm=CertifiedMac

No doubt you had to get the "older" technology to get them so cheap. So refurbished macs shouldn't be too much of a compromise. (not flaming, just trying to help) :D

[Moppie]

If you love upgrading and playing around, google "hackintosh".




Unfortunately the OS-X user license agreement makes it pretty clear that you can only install it on Apple branded computers. So a legal hackintosh is not possible.

They are not as simple or easy to build as a windows based system either.
Only a limited number of parts are compatible with OS-X, and even then there is no guarantee it will work.

[mattograph]

Have you ever tried to use a 13inch macbook?



Don't be hatin' on my wonderful black macbook.

[Belmondo]

Don't be hatin' on my wonderful black macbook.

Or mine.....

I do the majority of my moderating on a black 13" MacBook.

[mbellot]

Oh, so you quit before macs got really good :p

No wonder you gave up. Back then (Mac OS 9 days) macs were buggy ...

Nothing has changed. :p

Give it a go dude. :D

No chance. I'm stuck in a Windows dominated business (electrical engineering) where Macs fear to tread (except maybe for word processing).

Besides, I haven't got any loose change to throw away on trendy electronics simply for the sake of looking "hip". :p

I don't own an iPod or iPhone either, so I am a true PC Luddite.

:lol:

[Belmondo]

Nothing has changed. :p



No chance. I'm stuck in a Windows dominated business (electrical engineering) where Macs fear to tread (except maybe for word processing).

Besides, I haven't got any loose change to throw away on trendy electronics simply for the sake of looking "hip". :p

I don't own an iPod or iPhone either, so I am a true PC Luddite.

:lol:

Just the opposite.....

MacBook
MacBook Pro (17")
2 MacPros
20" iMac
2 'Classic' iMacs (CRT versions)
Mini
2 23" Apple Cinema Displays
30" Apple Cinema Display
iPhone
iPod Touch
IPods (a few)


I'm just a different kind of Luddite

[OdiN1701]

Long time Windows user just turned Mac here, couldn't be happier with the switch :cool:

Long time Windows user, still windows user. Couldn't be happier by not switching. :cool:

Have used Macs before - they were crap.

[mattograph]

Just the opposite.....

MacBook
MacBook Pro (17")
2 MacPros
20" iMac
2 'Classic' iMacs (CRT versions)
Mini
2 23" Apple Cinema Displays
30" Apple Cinema Display
iPhone
iPod Touch
IPods (a few)


I'm just a different kind of Luddite


Steve Jobs just called -- he's sending the teletubbies over with some BIG HUGS!!!:)

[mbellot]

Just the opposite.....

MacBook
MacBook Pro (17")
2 MacPros
20" iMac
2 'Classic' iMacs (CRT versions)
Mini
2 23" Apple Cinema Displays
30" Apple Cinema Display
iPhone
iPod Touch
IPods (a few)


I'm just a different kind of Luddite

A very hip and trendy Luddite apparently. ;)

Steve Jobs should be calling to thank you for the new yacht you have single handedly made possible. :lol:

[BrokenRoad]

I'm a PC that can't wait to afford to be a Mac. My fiance will always be a pc and that is ok...I think.

[BigBlueDodge]

get a sissy, freak, peace lovin, girly geek machine like a Mac.


Alot of the Mac owners missed the original showing because they were busy doing something else


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roFB7bGCAgc

And while all of the Mac are sitting in cafes, while their owners drink their $8 a cup coffee, with their Toyota Prius parked out back, the PC will continue to run the world.

I'm a PC and proud of it. I'd rather stay on a platform where the core focus is personal computing, unlike Apple, who is too busy concentrating on their next iPhone, and only works on the Mac platform in between iPhone releases to keep themselves busy :)

[mattograph]

Alot of the Mac owners missed the original showing because they were busy doing something else


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roFB7bGCAgc

And while all of the Mac are sitting in cafes, while their owners drink their $8 a cup coffee, with their Toyota Prius parked out back, the PC will continue to run the world.

I'm a PC and proud of it. I'd rather stay on a platform where the core focus is personal computing, unlike Apple, who is too busy concentrating on their next iPhone, and only works on the Mac platform in between iPhone releases to keep themselves busy :)

Please, do tell us how you really feel.

[BigBlueDodge]

Please, do tell us how you really feel.

Of course, that was all in jest (just a little banter). When you get into one of these PC vs Mac discussion, logic and reason quickly goes out the door and it just becomes an emotional "My daddy can beat up your daddy" argument.

I'll state it now. I like red meat. I enjoy spending all day Sunday watching football. I drive a gas guzzling truck that eat's Prius's for breakfast. I believe duct tape is the greatest invention. I don't wear $75 pants. I don't need my computer to look "pretty" and white. I own a PC. And I'm not apologizing for any of it.

[dinanm3atl]

Fortunately, they're still doing them, I find them quite enjoyable.
I remember reading a good analysis about how those commercials are actually jabs at apple, but I can't find it.

I like the Jerry commercials personally.


I just got angry with the MAC commercials. Fuel for the MAC smug machine.

[Stealthy Ninja]

Unfortunately the OS-X user license agreement makes it pretty clear that you can only install it on Apple branded computers. So a legal hackintosh is not possible.

They are not as simple or easy to build as a windows based system either.
Only a limited number of parts are compatible with OS-X, and even then there is no guarantee it will work.


There is some device you can buy (you plug it into your motherboard some how) that lets you semi-legally install the proper (paid for) Mac OSX. I'm not sure about the legality of that.

Mac market themselves to the trendies, so the uber geeks stay away (and play with linux kernels).

I would never dare call myself trendy, I just like macs more. Nice to have a stable system.

Everyone just keep what they're happy with... I also didn't get an ipod (was anti-ipod, my favourite site was " www.anythingbutipod.com " But with a mac, they work very well, so I got a nano 2. I'll probably get a touch because it's hard to get a PDA to work with a mac without messing around.

I find the mac ads funny. Pretty stupid in a way, but funny. Unless your a pretty insecure PC user, I guess they shouldn't bother you (like I found the new Windows ads... well not funny - I don't think they're meant to be funny - but interesting.

I like the Jerry commercials personally.


I just got angry with the MAC commercials. Fuel for the MAC smug machine.

I agree the seinfeld ones are better.

Smug machine... that's just a stereotype. Like all Mac users know nothing about computers and just want an easy to use system. The fact that my 60 y.o. mother can use them has nothing to do with it. :p

:lol:

[DerekRob]

I like the Jerry commercials personally.


I just got angry with the MAC commercials. Fuel for the MAC smug machine.You and me both, but I didn't see any superman toys around the commercials.

[Stealthy Ninja]

Of course, that was all in jest (just a little banter). When you get into one of these PC vs Mac discussion, logic and reason quickly goes out the door and it just becomes an emotional "My daddy can beat up your daddy" argument.

I'll state it now. I like red meat. I enjoy spending all day Sunday watching football. I drive a gas guzzling truck that eat's Prius's for breakfast. I believe duct tape is the greatest invention. I don't wear $75 pants. I don't need my computer to look "pretty" and white. I own a PC. And I'm not apologizing for any of it.

Let it all out. That it. Now take a deep breath and relax. Relax your toes... let them go loose...

Does your PC have a gun-rack? :p

Not pretty and white, pretty and silver dude. White is so 2004. :lol:

Hope the mods don't mind this posted here (stereotypes):
http://dmartin.org/files/Mac_linux.jpg

[DerekRob]

Let it all out. That it. Now take a deep breath and relax. Relax your toes... let them go loose...

Not pretty and white, pretty and silver dude. White is so 2004. :lol:There is a mac I want to get but I don't know the name of it and it opens from the side instead of taking the covers off like the pc and its duel cpu's and its silver plus it can run regular pc games now.

[Stealthy Ninja]

There is a mac I want to get but I don't know the name of it and it opens from the side instead of taking the covers off like the pc and its duel cpu's and its silver plus it can run regular pc games now.


Macpro: http://www.apple.com/macpro/

I have one at home and at work. They're the kings of the mac world. ;)

Probably next year some time I'll need to get my second macpro. Then I'll have 2 computers to do my video processing (you can cluster them together). POWER!

[DerekRob]

Macpro: http://www.apple.com/macpro/

I have one at home and at work. They're the kings of the mac world. ;)

Probably next year some time I'll need to get my second macpro. Then I'll have 2 computers to do my video processing (you can cluster them together). POWER!How much more powerful is this macbook pro compared to my quad core quad cpu cross fire rig?

[Stealthy Ninja]

How much more powerful is this macbook pro compared to my quad core quad cpu cross fire rig?

Not macbook pro, MACPRO. ;)

Not sure, depends on what you buy:
8-core: Two 2.8GHz, 3.0GHz, or 3.2GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon 5400 series processors
Quad-core: One 2.8GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon 5400 series processor
Enhanced Intel Core microarchitecture
12MB of L2 cache per processor (each pair of cores shares 6MB)
128-bit SSE4 SIMD engine
64-bit data paths and registers
Energy efficiency optimization
1600MHz, 64-bit dual independent frontside buses
Memory

800MHz DDR2 ECC fully buffered DIMM (FB-DIMM) memory
Eight FB-DIMM slots on two memory riser cards (four slots per card) supporting up to 32GB of main memory
256-bit-wide memory architecture
Graphics and displays

Double-wide, 16-lane PCI Express 2.0 graphics slot with one of the following graphics cards installed:
ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT with 256MB of GDDR3 memory and two dual-link DVI ports
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT with 512MB of GDDR3 memory and two dual-link DVI ports
NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600 with 1.5GB of GDDR3 memory, two dual-link DVI ports, and one stereo 3D port

Multiple graphics card configurations including two, three, or four ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT cards
300W for up to four PCI Express graphics cards
Support for up to eight 30-inch displays1
Support for digital resolutions up to 2560 by 1600 pixels
Support for analog resolutions up to 2048 by 1536 pixels
DVI to VGA adapter included
Dual-display support for extended desktop and video mirroring modes

Copied from here: http://www.apple.com/macpro/specs.html

[theflyingkiwi]

I like the Jerry commercials personally.


I just got angry with the MAC commercials. Fuel for the MAC smug machine.

Your not the only one that don't like the MAC vs PC ads. for one they are using the old stereotype of what a PC used to do. Like if you are running a PC from the days of the 386 and the like. Notice that the MAC ads never go on about the things it can do. AKA play games, or you can create videos and photo editing. Oh wait you can do the same things on a MAC that you can do on a PC.

Just about every ad really is a lie on the past rather than the present. Of course Mac is trying to catch up with MS and the best way to beat the guy on the top is to be little them. That the ads do every well. are they true, no likely.

[mbellot]

Not macbook pro, MACPRO. ;)

Not sure, depends on what you buy:
8-core: Two 2.8GHz, 3.0GHz, or 3.2GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon 5400 series processors
Quad-core: One 2.8GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon 5400 series processor
Enhanced Intel Core microarchitecture
12MB of L2 cache per processor (each pair of cores shares 6MB)
128-bit SSE4 SIMD engine
64-bit data paths and registers
Energy efficiency optimization
1600MHz, 64-bit dual independent frontside buses
Memory

800MHz DDR2 ECC fully buffered DIMM (FB-DIMM) memory
Eight FB-DIMM slots on two memory riser cards (four slots per card) supporting up to 32GB of main memory
256-bit-wide memory architecture
Graphics and displays

Double-wide, 16-lane PCI Express 2.0 graphics slot with one of the following graphics cards installed:
ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT with 256MB of GDDR3 memory and two dual-link DVI ports
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT with 512MB of GDDR3 memory and two dual-link DVI ports
NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600 with 1.5GB of GDDR3 memory, two dual-link DVI ports, and one stereo 3D port

Multiple graphics card configurations including two, three, or four ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT cards
300W for up to four PCI Express graphics cards
Support for up to eight 30-inch displays1
Support for digital resolutions up to 2560 by 1600 pixels
Support for analog resolutions up to 2048 by 1536 pixels
DVI to VGA adapter included
Dual-display support for extended desktop and video mirroring modes

Copied from here: http://www.apple.com/macpro/specs.html

Sorry to burst your bubble, but thats a PC. :lol:

Its just been repackaged into a pretty white (silver, whatever the "in" color is this season) case without Uncle Bill's OmniVirus.

The argument is no longer Mac vs. PC, the only real difference is the OS now.

How sad, the war is over. :p

[Moppie]

How sad, the war is over. :p


And Intel won :lol::lol::lol:

[Stealthy Ninja]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but thats a PC. :lol:

Its just been repackaged into a pretty white (silver, whatever the "in" color is this season) case without Uncle Bill's OmniVirus.

The argument is no longer Mac vs. PC, the only real difference is the OS now.

How sad, the war is over. :p


Heh heh. You PC guys are all jealous. Search your hearts and you'll see it's true.

:p

When people say "mac vs pc" they really mean "mac vs windows vs linux" let's not get caught in semantics ;)

Macs are good at design (look a lot better than DELL for example... ) don't diss them for looking good. That's just... umm... envy?! ;)

[Stealthy Ninja]

Your not the only one that don't like the MAC vs PC ads. for one they are using the old stereotype of what a PC used to do. Like if you are running a PC from the days of the 386 and the like. Notice that the MAC ads never go on about the things it can do. AKA play games, or you can create videos and photo editing. Oh wait you can do the same things on a MAC that you can do on a PC.

Just about every ad really is a lie on the past rather than the present. Of course Mac is trying to catch up with MS and the best way to beat the guy on the top is to be little them. That the ads do every well. are they true, no likely.

Well the PC (windows) ad is copying the premise of the mac ad really.

ZUNE! Got one?

The reason why the Mac guy doesn't go on so much is the PC guys is so much funnier. I'd rather have a drink with the PC guy if I had to choose. :lol:

[Moppie]

Macs are good at design (look a lot better than DELL for example... ) don't diss them for looking good. That's just... umm... envy?! ;)


I think you mean Apple is good at design, and yes they are, but have a tendency to put form before function, which works well with consumers.

[Stealthy Ninja]

I think you mean Apple is good at design, and yes they are, but have a tendency to put form before function, which works well with consumers.

Sorry, apple.. macs are also handy for design ;) .

The only thing I could agree with you on is their mouses (the form before function thing). Other than that, they work very well and look good too.

Even the new mighty mouse has some good points (right click and left click are there, and the scrollwheel works well, also you can squeeze the sides to get expose to work) but it's a tad uncomfortable to use.

Other than that, their products are very well designed in form and function.

[theflyingkiwi]

Well the PC (windows) ad is copying the premise of the mac ad really.

ZUNE! Got one?

The reason why the Mac guy doesn't go on so much is the PC guys is so much funnier. I'd rather have a drink with the PC guy if I had to choose. :lol:

:confused:

I can see how. the premise of the mac ads is that you can do things on a mac that you can't do on a PC.

the premise of the MS ads is that not matter who you are and what you do, you can use windows.

[Moppie]

Other than that, their products are very well designed in form and function.


The MacPro is only Apple system that doesn't make any compromises.
It looks good, and it is very functional.

The iMac is pure compromise.
Want to change your monitor? (oh crap, need a new computer)
Want to Calibrate your 24inch monitor? (oh crap, its glossy and the calibration device won't work).
Want to add an expansion card? (oh crap, need a new computer)
Want to upgrade your video card? (oh crap, need a new computer)
Want to add a 2nd hard drive? (oh crap, need a new computer)
Want to use more than 4GB of ram? (oh crap, need a new computer)


They are fantastic consumer device, and in that regard have left every single other PC builder stuck in the stone age.
But they make a lot of design compromises that are ultimately limiting to their functionality.

[Stealthy Ninja]

The MacPro is only Apple system that doesn't make any compromises.
It looks good, and it is very functional.

The iMac is pure compromise.
Want to change your monitor? (oh crap, need a new computer) (why would you want to change the monitor, they're awesome)
Want to Calibrate your 24inch monitor? (oh crap, its glossy and the calibration device won't work). (They're not made for photo pros, there are other alternatives)
Want to add an expansion card? (oh crap, need a new computer)
Want to upgrade your video card? (oh crap, need a new computer)
Want to add a 2nd hard drive? (oh crap, need a new computer) (External?)
Want to use more than 4GB of ram? (oh crap, need a new computer)


They are fantastic consumer device, and in that regard have left every single other PC builder stuck in the stone age.
But they make a lot of design compromises that are ultimately limiting to their functionality.

If you call "function" upgradability, then you're right. If you call "function" a computer that does what you want it to do. Then you're wrong (apart from maybe the calibration thing). :)

If you want to build your computer, get a windows machine. I have no problem with that. The iMac is a great computer. It's an all-in-one computer, not a "build-it-yourself" computer. It doesn't compromise in what it promises for the consumer it targets.

Gateway make them too: http://gadgets.boingboing.net/gimages/gateway_one.jpg

I'd rather have a iMac all-in-one over a gateway all in one. The thing with the iMac is... well OS X. If you're happy with windows, then make your own machine. That's what I use to do. :)

[Stealthy Ninja]

:confused:

I can see how. the premise of the mac ads is that you can do things on a mac that you can't do on a PC.

the premise of the MS ads is that not matter who you are and what you do, you can use windows.

The premise is: "I'm a Mac", "I'm a PC". Maybe a better word is needed here... maybe "theme". It's pretty obvious where windows got the line from. ;)

I think one of the premises of the Mac ads is that you can do what you do on a PC on a Mac. But you can do it (often) faster/better/with more stability etc. And Macs are getting to be more compatible with windows systems.

Here at work, we have a windows server system. I connected to it without doing anything.

Well, anyway. So long as we're all happy. :D

You're totally right though. Windows is a lot easier to get into using. You can just set up a really cheap PC using windows, even cheaper (and more stable) with Linux.

[Lonnie]

Comparing Windows to Mac OS is like comparing apples and oranges (intended). Windows must be designed to work with countless combinations of third party hardware, using shoddily thrown together device drivers in many cases. Apple knows exactly what motherboard, RAM, cpu, etc will be used with its OS. It's no wonder Apple has historically provided the more stable platform.

I'll be impressed when Apple scraps their proprietary hardware scheme and competes with Microsoft toe-to-toe in the operating system business. Proprietary hardware is so 80's.

[gjl711]

Comparing Windows to Mac OS is like comparing apples and oranges (intended). Windows must be designed to work with countless combinations of third party hardware, using shoddily thrown together device drivers in many cases. Apple knows exactly what motherboard, RAM, cpu, etc will be used with its OS. It's no wonder Apple has historically provided the more stable platform.

I'll be impressed when Apple scraps their proprietary hardware scheme and competes with Microsoft toe-to-toe in the operating system business. Proprietary hardware is so 80's. The funny thing is that the roles use to be reversed. When the AppleII came out along with the PC came a manual detailing both the hardware and software. Every register, every pin and the user community was encouraged to develop both software and hardware. The PC was the closed box. Mac changed all that. They closed up the box and the PC world opened theirs.

[Bobster]

Microsoft hired an advertising agency to make the commercial for them. The agency probably used macs.
Microsoft use people who work on PC only... i remember when bill gates was having his supa dupa house built and the architect used a Mac to design it, bill went nuts and told them to do it again using a Windows box..
I know I miss f14 phantom the game "it was the best for a mac game"
rubbish - A-10 Attack! was the best game on the Mac, then Marathon :)

[mbellot]

Heh heh. You PC guys are all jealous. Search your hearts and you'll see it's true.

:p

You're sounding an awful lot like a gear snob ("you only have an xxxD, you must be jealous of my 1D whatever")

The computer, much like the camera, is a tool.

When people say "mac vs pc" they really mean "mac vs windows vs linux" let's not get caught in semantics ;)

Nope. The Mac vs. PC "war" started for me with the Motorola 68000 microprocessor and the introduction of a incredibly closed architecture. I worked for a company that started the application process to become a hardware developer for Apple Mac peripherals/cards. Once Apple's terms were clear the owner dropped the idea rather quickly. Draconian would be generous and complimentary.

Macs are good at design (look a lot better than DELL for example... ) don't diss them for looking good. That's just... umm... envy?! ;)

Ehh. I guess if you care about how your PC looks. Personally I don't. Its an appliance (like a toaster or microwave), I want the most functionality for the least monetary investment because it will already be obsolete before it ever gets to the house.

[AndreaBFS]

I'm a former Mac user. Switched to PC for many reasons, but mainly affordability and availability and choice in software and hardware. I've never missed my Macs or the frustration of being a Mac user in a PC world.

I like the new PC commercials, but I love the Mac commercials too. Great work on both sides.

[Keltab]

I was in the computer industry (primarily retail and distributor sales) for 17 years. When Apple first introduced the iMac and then the Apple retail stores, they had a little less than 5% of the market. Their goal was to double their share. They accomplished that - then they brought in Intel... so the only true difference now is the OS as several other posters have mentioned. But the difference in the OS's are not aimed at power users. And really, photography makes us power needers if not users. Mac provides the "less likely to fail system" while MS provides the standard OS. Unless it has recently changed, Apple does not want to rule the business world... Just Education and general users. We won't see true competition until they are really gearing up for the same audience. And I would hate to see them work from the same level - I like the competition and I hope they both survive. IF Windows or Mac OS were the only tool available, would we still see the efforts to improve and grow the options? Each has pushed the other - and the tools we have now would not be where they are if not for the "aggressive" competition (which actually dates back to before Windows or Apples - watch "Pirates of Silicon Valley" for a fun look at the start). Sorry for the rant, but as a dedicated geek who uses both of the OS's quite regularly (and now works in Education where the battle really rages) I enjoy watching the commercials and the behind the scenes battles...

[mattograph]

The reason why the Mac guy doesn't go on so much is the PC guys is so much funnier. I'd rather have a drink with the PC guy if I had to choose. :lol:


No way.

Did you see the Mac guy in Live free or die hard? He totally kicked buttocks!!!

[iceman1]

What does Steve Ballmer think of all this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVMy0PFr8no :lol:

[Oneslowz28]

I'm 4 pc's. 2 laptops, 1 gaming computer, 1 work station, and one file server.

[Stealthy Ninja]

No way.

Did you see the Mac guy in Live free or die hard? He totally kicked buttocks!!!

In the ads the PC guy has all the funny lines.

As an actor, the other guy is probably funnier though.

I'm a former Mac user. Switched to PC for many reasons, but mainly affordability and availability and choice in software and hardware. I've never missed my Macs or the frustration of being a Mac user in a PC world.

I like the new PC commercials, but I love the Mac commercials too. Great work on both sides.


I know why you switched back to PC. In many cases the mac can have troubles when working with PC. Generally though, I found the mac was able to open and use more files than Windows machines. The problem (for me) is windows machines tend to need extra codecs and programs more to run things that come from my Mac.

For example. Mac video editing is all Quicktime based. Quicktime is actually a very good way to compress a video (in my experience you can get a smaller file with better resolution than the windows WMV). However, a lot of people in windows world cannot work out how to open quicktime files (or they're scared to download quicktime for some reason.

Sure you can get codecs for windows media player, but who wants that hassle. ;)

VLC of course always comes to the rescue. IMHO everyone using Mac or PC needs to download this free program.

[DerekRob]

Hey guys thought of a great idea?

Let's all do our own I'm a pc commercial and post them here?

By the way we could add our videos to youtube lol.

[Stealthy Ninja]

Hey guys thought of a great idea?

Let's all do our own I'm a pc commercial and post them here?

By the way we could add our videos to youtube lol.

Waiting for the 5Dmkii so I can make some sweet mac commercials. :lol:

[Oneslowz28]

Hey guys thought of a great idea?

Let's all do our own I'm a pc commercial and post them here?

By the way we could add our videos to youtube lol.

So we could do:

Im a Canon (professional looking photographer with photo vest and cargo pants.)

And

I'm a Nikon (touristy guy with Hawaiian shirt, safari cap, and sunscreen covered nose)

:lol:

[mattograph]

Hey guys thought of a great idea?

Let's all do our own I'm a pc commercial and post them here?

By the way we could add our videos to youtube lol.

Can't do mine till December -- waiting on my 5D MK II!

[KOLODI]

Well....

I have a Mac. I thought the ad was pretty good actually. Must have been edited with final cut pro. :lol:

Oh please, please, please don't let this degrade into pointless arguments on Mac vs PC. If you like what you have then just use it.


BTW Macs are better than PCs :p

Only comment below if you've used BOTH. Heh heh. Maybe I'm turning into a troll here. :lol: This is fun.

Well Said......... lol

[Stealthy Ninja]

So we could do:

Im a Canon (professional looking photographer with photo vest and cargo pants.)

And

I'm a Nikon (touristy guy with Hawaiian shirt, safari cap, and sunscreen covered nose)

:lol:

Heh heh. :lol:

The following is a light hearted joke:

Typical Nikon User:
CLICK HERE TO SEE (http://www.bobbyworks.com/images/Ugly%20Guy.gif)


Typical Canon User:
CLICK HERE TO SEE (http://carpentier.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/photographer.jpg)

[DerekRob]

LOL.

[drews578]

I don't have it, and I don't like it either. (But I'm forced to use it, our newspaper is made on them.)
I know the old "macs can't right click" thing is old so I came up with a new one:

Why can you only resize a window by dragging the lower right corner?

You can do both. Try again.

[gjl711]

...
The following is a light hearted joke:

Typical Nikon User:
CLICK HERE TO SEE (http://www.bobbyworks.com/images/Ugly%20Guy.gif)


Typical Canon User:
CLICK HERE TO SEE (http://carpentier.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/photographer.jpg) Hey... I think I know both those guys. :):):)

[cdifoto]

Me, no matter what camera.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a304/cdifoto/gear/photography.gif

[drews578]

Macs have become over priced PC's running a beautified (sissified) version of Linux.


When you compare equal hardware there is no price difference between apple and dell. Yes, it is certainly a version of UNIX for the masses with little technical knowledge needed for it to "Just Work"

[Oneslowz28]

hey cdi mind if I use that gif on my facebook page?

[cdifoto]

I found it on the web so I guess so. I'd credit the creator but I dunno who it is.

[mattograph]

Me, no matter what camera.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a304/cdifoto/gear/photography.gif

What? On board flash? That woman deserves, at the very least, the Gary Fong Lightsphere treatment!!!

[cdifoto]

Strobes. Out of the field of view. ;) :D

[mattograph]

Strobes. Out of the field of view. ;) :D

Well played!

[Lonnie]

When you compare equal hardware there is no price difference between apple and dell.

Links to the two systems?

[Oneslowz28]

When you compare equal hardware there is no price difference between apple and dell. Yes, it is certainly a version of UNIX for the masses with little technical knowledge needed for it to "Just Work"

That may be true but you can not buy a dell or a mac with the power my gaming rig or work station has for any where near the cost I built them for.

[mattograph]

That may be true but you can not buy a dell or a mac with the power my gaming rig or work station has for any where near the cost I built them for.

Probably not, but all of my macs came with little apple bumper stickers. In fact, my mac book had TWO.

[DerekRob]

So we could do:

Im a Canon (professional looking photographer with photo vest and cargo pants.)

And

I'm a Nikon (touristy guy with Hawaiian shirt, safari cap, and sunscreen covered nose)

:lol:What do you do when the guy wears the safari hat cargo shorts nice short sleeve "dress" shirts and very expensive shoes and no white goop on his nose?

[cdifoto]

What do you do when the guy wears the safari cargo shorts nice short sleeve shirts and very expensive shoes? And no white goop on his nose LOL.
Trendy P&S.

[DerekRob]

Trendy P&S.Haha.

[AndreaBFS]

Aww man... someone beat me to the direct flash thing.

[rklepper]

Hello, I am a Mac PC. Yes, that is correct a Mac is really a, guess what, Personal Computer (PC). And I think that is PC (politically correct).

Actually I have 3 operating sytems on mine. I run Ubuntu for the great free science programs and games. I run windows because everything at work is. I run Mac as it is just more fun to use. HAHA there you have it.

[_aravena]

I'm a PC!!! I love those commercials. Finally, now if they had someone beating on Long, those commercials would be perfect. :D

Something from to watch.
http://www.milkandcookies.com/link/8288/detail/

http://www.roosterteeth.com/archive/episode.php?id=118

I run XP and experimented with Linux. I need more memory though, it freak my comp out a bit. I've used Macs and uggggghhhhhhhh!!!!! That's all. :D

[Stealthy Ninja]

I run XP and experimented with Linux. I need more memory though, it freak my comp out a bit. I've used Macs and uggggghhhhhhhh!!!!! That's all. :D

Ahh I see. Let me address you in terms you'll understand then...

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[Oneslowz28]

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[Stealthy Ninja]

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the sad thing is i could actually read everything you wrote. i must be a ubergeek

[Oneslowz28]

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[Stealthy Ninja]

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[Oneslowz28]

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[mbellot]

We're just pretending. These are really random characters.

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:lol:

[_aravena]

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[theflyingkiwi]

geeks :)

[mbellot]

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;)

[Moppie]

Last time I checked, this was an english speaking forum.............

[_aravena]

MOPPIE!!! You know better than that!

[mbellot]

Last time I checked, this was an english speaking forum.............

You have obviously never run across any posts from BradT0517 then, have you?

If this (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2004002&postcount=604) is English then so is that other gibberish. ;)

[Stealthy Ninja]

`/0|_||2 \X/0|2[)$ @|23 +|2|_|3. 1 |*|20|*0$3 @ j01|\|1|\|6 0|= |=|213|\|[)$|-|1|* 1|\| 0|2[)3|2 +0 |*|20+3(+ +|-|3 $@(|2@[)3 @||1@|\|(3 0|= 633|<[)0|\/|.

1 (0|\|(|_||2 |\/|`/ |=1|\|3 |=3||0\X/, |3+ |_|$ |*@|2+@|<3 1|\| @|\| @||1@|\|(3 0|= 633|<|\|3$$ 1|\| 0|2[)3|2 +0 |21[) +|-|1$ |=0|2|_||\/| 0|=|= @|| +|-|0$3 0\/3|2 +|-|3 @63 0|=, 0|-|, |3+'$ $@`/. 40.

/\/\4^/ '//-\11 ]I_I5+ 4 8I_I^/[/-/ []I= [1247_'/ /\/\[]I=[]5!!!!111!

`/0|_| +|213[) |-|@|2[) |}|_|+ 0|}\/10|_|$|`/ `/0|_| |@(|< +|-|3 1337|\|3$$ |\|33[)3[) +0 |}3 0|\|3 0|= |_|$ 1377 |-|@><0|2$

This has to be the most confusing post in the forum ( |_||\||3$$ 0|= (0|_||2$3 `/0|_| @|23 1337. )

[mbellot]

This has to be the most confusing post in the forum ( |_||\||3$$ 0|= (0|_||2$3 `/0|_| @|23 1337. )

0|2 |_|$3 6006|3

;)

[Ronald S. Jr.]

Ahh I see. Let me address you in terms you'll understand then...

0|}\/10|_|$|`/ |\/|@($ @|23 +00 1337 |=0|2 `/0|_| +0 |-|@|\|[)|3.

$0 j00Z $P33|< 933|<. bU7 d0 j00Z 4L$0 $P33|< L337? 7|-|3 r3$7 0Ph 7|-|1$ /\/\3$$493 1$ jU$7 |-|3r3 70 7|-|r0\/\/ j00Z 0PhPh. |-|4|-|4|-|4|-| 1Ph j00Z Ph19Ur3 7|-|1$ 0U7. 7|-|1$ /\/\3$$493 $0 0\/\/|\|3$ j00Z. 7|-|3r3 (0/\/\3$ 4 71/\/\3 1|\| 3\/3r'/ /\/\4|\|$ L1Ph3 \/\/|-|3r3 |-|3 /\/\U$7 L34r|\| 70 $P34|< L337 0r Ph4(3 7|-|3 (0|\|$3QU3|\|(3$ 0Ph |\|07 b31|\|9 UB3r (00L L1|<3 7|-|3 r3$7 0Ph U$ 1|\| 933|<L4|\|D. :lol::lol:

[)|_|[)3, 1+'$ 1337 |\|0+ L337.

+|-|3 $@[) +|-|1|\|6 1$ 1 (0|_||[) @(+|_|@||`/ |23@[) 3\/3|2`/+|-|1|\|6 `/0|_| \X/|20+3. 1 |\/||_|$+ |}3 @ |_||}3|2633|<.

or for those who only speak g33k and not 1337:

7h3 54d 7h1n6 15 1 c0u|d 4c7u4||y r34d 3v3ry7h1n6 y0u wr073. 1 mu57 b3 4 ub3r633k.

now for grandpa:
the sad thing is i could actually read everything you wrote. i must be a ubergeek

`/0|_| @|23 @ \X/0|2+|-|`/ @[)\/3|2$@|2`/ $+3@|+|-|`/ |\|1|\|j@ $0|\|. 1 $|-|@|| @||0\X/ `/0|_| |*@$$@63 1|\|+0 +|-|3 |_||}3|2 633|< \X/0|2|[).

0|= (0|_||2$3, |\|0\X/ \X/3 |-|@\/3 @|13|\|@+3[) @|| +|-|3 0+|-|3|2 |*0$+3|2$ |=|20|\/| |*0$+1|\|6 1|\| +|-|1$ |=0|2|_||\/|. $0 1 +|-|1|\||< \X/3 @|23 |}3++3|2 @$ @||13$ +|-|@|\| @[)\/3|2$@|213$.

We're just pretending. These are really random characters.

@(+|_|@||`/ +|-|1$ 1$ |\|0 j0|<3. +|-|1$ @|| |\/|3@|\|$ $0|\/|3+|-|1|\|6. |20|=||\/|@0

`/0|_||2 \X/0|2[)$ @|23 +|2|_|3. 1 |*|20|*0$3 @ j01|\|1|\|6 0|= |=|213|\|[)$|-|1|* 1|\| 0|2[)3|2 +0 |*|20+3(+ +|-|3 $@(|2@[)3 @||1@|\|(3 0|= 633|<[)0|\/|.

$@[)|`/, 1+ 1$ |23@[)@|}|3. +|-|3 `/0|_|+|-| +0[)@`/ |-|@\/3 |23@||`/ |0$+ +|-|31|2 \X/@`/.

:lol:

/\/\4^/ '//-\11 ]I_I5+ 4 8I_I^/[/-/ []I= [1247_'/ /\/\[]I=[]5!!!!111!

|}|_|||$|-|1+!

;)

1 (0|\|(|_||2 |\/|`/ |=1|\|3 |=3||0\X/, |3+ |_|$ |*@|2+@|<3 1|\| @|\| @||1@|\|(3 0|= 633|<|\|3$$ 1|\| 0|2[)3|2 +0 |21[) +|-|1$ |=0|2|_||\/| 0|=|= @|| +|-|0$3 0\/3|2 +|-|3 @63 0|=, 0|-|, |3+'$ $@`/. 40.



`/0|_| +|213[) |-|@|2[) |}|_|+ 0|}\/10|_|$|`/ `/0|_| |@(|< +|-|3 1337|\|3$$ |\|33[)3[) +0 |}3 0|\|3 0|= |_|$ 1377 |-|@><0|2$

This has to be the most confusing post in the forum ( |_||\||3$$ 0|= (0|_||2$3 `/0|_| @|23 1337. )

0|2 |_|$3 6006|3

;)


THAT'S F-ED UP! :shock:

I was seriously trying to decipher it there for a minute. :confused:

[DozerLYP]

we're not alone, here's one more PC user (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSiSIzXKMXw)

[Stealthy Ninja]

THAT'S F-ED UP! :shock:

I was seriously trying to decipher it there for a minute. :confused:

It actually says stuff.

|_||\||3$$ 0|= (0|_||2$3 `/0|_| @|23 1337

Unless of course you are 1337 (leet = elite).

[theflyingkiwi]

It actually says stuff.

|_||\||3$$ 0|= (0|_||2$3 `/0|_| @|23 1337

Unless of course you are 1337 (leet = elite).

nope, that's still F**KUP.

and yes I understand your cipher.

[Stealthy Ninja]

nope, that's still F**KUP.

and yes I understand your cipher.

cipher... dude, it's 1337 5p33k

[theflyingkiwi]

cipher... dude, it's 1337 5p33k

that's not what I would say. :p