We need to make our own version of this...

[4walls]

....

[CyberDyneSystems]

kewell....

[tommykjensen]

Hehe good idea, it would be an easy way to identify members of this site.

[IanD]

OP Tech Pro strap. They will do custom printing but there is a rather large minimum order to place.
Anyone interested in pursuing this further?

[poke]

depends how much it would be...

[Thenethiel]

I'd be interested, if the price is reasonable.

[poke]

depends how much it would be...

Actually it doesn't really matter how much it is... of course I want one :D

[tommykjensen]

Actually it doesn't really matter how much it is... of course I want one :D

Ok, I'll sell You one for US$ 10.000 :lol:

[poke]

Ok, I'll sell You one for US$ 10.000 :lol:

Yeah.. but without the N**Konians bit on it :oops:

[tommykjensen]

Yeah.. but without the N**Konians bit on it :oops:

Sure for $10000 You can have any text on it as You wish :lol:

[IanD]

If I'm not mistaking, the retail on the Pro Strap is $18.00 USD. There are 2 models, with the difference being the attatching system. The most popular is the Pro Loop.
Add to the retail the cost of silk screening the name/logo. What would folks like to see on the strap?
P.O.T.N.?
Canon?
C.D.P.H.?
We Love Pekka?
Photography-on-the.net ?
In the mean time, I'll contact OPTech and ask them for some pricing.

[CoolToolGuy]

I would be interested in them if they included the URL (POTN) as well as the Canon logo. Op/Tech Pro or similar preferred.

Have Fun,

[thomascanty]

I'd probably buy two or three of them. Or four... (I have too many cameras)

[fslshooter]

Count me in!

[Belmondo]

I really like the idea. I see it less as a way to promote the forum than as a means of identifying fellow POTNers when we encounter them in the field. I'm good for four of them. (3 cameras and a spare).

[Andy_T]

Only problem this might rise is that N***n users could find 'POTN' offensive.

After all, it might be an acronym as well (P*** on the N****nians)... :lol:

Best regards,
Andy

[tommykjensen]

Only problem this might rise is that N***n users could find 'POTN' offensive.

After all, it might be an acronym as well (P*** on the N****nians)... :lol:


ROFLMAO :lol:

[gramps]

Only problem this might rise is that N***n users could find 'POTN' offensive.

After all, it might be an acronym as well (P*** on the N****nians)... :lol:

Best regards,
Andy

GREAT IDEA!!!!! I'll take one.

[4walls]

Add to the retail the cost of silk screening the name/logo. What would folks like to see on the strap?
P.O.T.N.?
Canon?
C.D.P.H.?
We Love Pekka?
Photography-on-the.net ?

I would like to see the name/logo stitched on the strap, not silk screened.

[snibbetsj]

I'd grab several! Hope someone can make it happen:D

[jboyd]

I'm in!!

Jackie

[mdmedicgod]

Just did a covert recon mission on the n****ians site. The strap is selling for roughly 31 bucks u.s. Doesn't seem to be a bad price...

My vote for is "N***n sucks!"

or is that to controversial????????????

[IanD]

Email sent and just waiting for the reply. Of course Pekka must give this idea/project his blessing as we must not forget that "here" belongs to him. As infor comes in, i'll pass it along.

[pierrot]

I'd take a couple (two) too ;)

[lost]

I'll Take one!!!!

[dwildone]

Count me in...

[Tom W]

I'm in for two, as long as there's a red stripe on it somewhere. :)

[Tom W]

It needs something like this:

http://photography-on-the.net/graphs/logo.gif

And maybe this (pending that Canon won't get ticked at their name being on it):

http://photography-on-the.net/forumlogo.gif

[robertwgross]

Think about this, guys.

Why don't you just get the silkscreen to say, "Camera Thieves -- Steal Me."

I prefer to let my stock Canon Digital strap get as faded as possible, for that reason.

---Bob Gross---

[amazingimages@bellsouth.n]

if the price is right i want 2.

[JAZZ D.P.G.]

Hey Bob, you have a point

But,

I want one too!:lol:

With the lens and camera, it is a target anyway. It is a little more risk. It would be nice to recognize some fellow POuTiN's.

[Pyromaniac]

I take a couple if there not to much.

Bob,
I think Jazz is right when you have a 100-400 or some other high dollar lenes on a several thousand dollar or more camera body the guys that want to steal it know what it is even if there's nothing on the neck strap.

[4walls]

I know a little shop in Seoul that does embrodery... I don't know if he sells camera straps though.
I will check it out on my next trip there... if he has straps, I will get him to make one up and then
post the results online here. Timeline is at least one month or more though... so if patience is a
factor, then we will have to go with another plan.

[Huckaback Photo]

Although i live in the UK think you all have quite a good idea here in principle, as the straps that come with my D60 and my 1d2 are not to clever 1d2 already showing signs of wear.
I think our cameras complete with large white lenses do attract attention without flashy straps.
depending where you are there is simple sugestion which i often do.
Turn the strap inside out and use a lesser walk about lens, finally i had a mate years ago was always concerned about this flashing about of expensive kit, sooner or later it will get spotted by the wrong person.
So he always used a small piece of black tape over camera names on the bodys etc.and black permanent marker pens on the straps.
Hope this helps.
PS just realised this is my no 100 posts since january. time flies when you're having fun.
Cheers
Martin (Huckaback Photo)

[robertwgross]

I have an idea. There are two sides to a neck strap.

One side is used if you are in a safe place. It'll say "Canon Digital Photography ..."

The other side is used if you are not in a safe place. It'll say "Promaster" or some other crappy name. No self-respecting camera thief would steal it. Hell, the thief would probably feel sorry for you and drop a dollar into your pocket.

---Bob Gross---

[Flex]

Count me in, but embroided is defintely the go... and can the canon logo be included as well? This would be ideal but maybe not due to copyright issues?

[Belmondo]

I'm sure that Canon has graphics standards that dictate the proper use of their name and logo (do they have a logo?). Any use of it would likely require their prior approval.

[TammieO]

I'm in for 2.

[Cadwell]

I'm sure that Canon has graphics standards that dictate the proper use of their name and logo (do they have a logo?). Any use of it would likely require their prior approval.

The logo is the stylised word Canon as displayed in the banner of these forums. I presume Pekka talked to Canon about being allowed to use it. I know companies can get very irritated about unauthorised use of their logos, so it would be best to clear it with them before using it on any strap.

[Scottes]

I'm in for two.

[DocFrankenstein]

Is that thing any good? For one, the canon strap that comes with the rebel is not very comfy.

And I wouldn't mind if Pekka makes a few bucks off it, to go for the server costs...

[psk4363]

Me too for two!

Barry

[elbirth]

if this happens and they're not too expensive, I might get one... not sure I'd use it, since I like the one my camera came with just fine... but it's possible I might in some situations, and plus having one would be cool

[Belmondo]

if this happens and they're not too expensive, I might get one... not sure I'd use it, since I like the one my camera came with just fine... but it's possible I might in some situations, and plus having one would be cool

Even if we don't do it, I'd recommend an OpTech strap. They're much more comfortable than the unit that came with the camera. I haven't even unpacked the Canon straps that came with my last two cameras.

[rebel61021]

count me in I would like one.

[elbirth]

Even if we don't do it, I'd recommend an OpTech strap. They're much more comfortable than the unit that came with the camera. I haven't even unpacked the Canon straps that came with my last two cameras.

I'm sure they are, they look much more comfortable with all that padding. However, as it stands, I almost never have the neck strap actually around my neck, so I wouldn't see the need in one for my own use for the time being. The only time I use the strap is to throw the camera over my shoulder... otherwise the camera's in my hand with the strap somehow around my arm.

[CyberDyneSystems]

Damn,. what am I gonna do with the old Optechs?

[Pyromaniac]

Damn,. what am I gonna do with the old Optechs?

You can sell them and use the money to buy one with the logo on it. :D

[Lissa]

I've been using a harness strap for years. It's great - takes the weight completely off my neck, and the camera doesn't dangle if I need to bend over. It hugs your body.

[Vinny454]

I'm in for one too. I don't see how it would attract a thief? I'm thinking the Canon logo on the camera and a big white lens attracts more attention. I mean who see's someone with a camera and looks at the neck strap?

[Curos]

I'm in for one too. I don't see how it would attract a thief? I'm thinking the Canon logo on the camera and a big white lens attracts more attention. I mean who see's someone with a camera and looks at the neck strap?

I do, helps me decide whether I should be kind to the owner or not. :D

Just playing, but I like the idea, and i like (4walls?) idea of embroidery instead of silk screen, if that is possible.

[Vinny454]

I do, helps me decide whether I should be kind to the owner or not. :D

Just playing, but I like the idea, and i like (4walls?) idea of embroidery instead of silk screen, if that is possible.

Touche! With me the Canon logo alone would bring out my kindness and the POTN logo would bring out an introduction and a conversation (maybe a beer!) :)

Yes. embroidery would be a classy touch.

[Volatile]

I'm down for embroidery.

[IanD]

OK folks, I've heard back from OP Tech. What they offer is silk screen only. (like the model shown at the beginning of this thread.) Now I think we should take this to the next level and come up with a "logo". There is a limit as to the size of the logo due to the print space available. I'll post the length/width later today. We are also limited to one color, again due to space limits.
If folks are still interested, we can proceed from here. Please also think about the following-
We will need someone to receive the order and ship the straps out to folks. This would require all of one days work and include stuffing the strap(s) into a mailer, label the mailer and take them to the post office. I would be happy to do this but as y'all know, I live up here in Montreal and having the straps shipped here would entail a very large transport bill as well as various duties and taxes. The result would be a very expensive strap, not to mention very high postal fees. I would be more than happy to have the straps for folks North of the Border shipped here and I'll send them out.
Please think about this and let me know.

[Belmondo]

Ian:
Where is Op/Tech? More to the point, where do they do the silk-screening? It looks like they're in Montanna, which makes them convenient to just about everywhere.

One thought to ponder....

Do any of our members have a business established where they can take credit cards? I'm seeing this as possibly the easiest way to handle international sales. Otherwise, maybe we can use PayPal, although if we do something like that, we'll have to build the extra cost into the price of each strap.

[IanD]

Ian:
Where is Op/Tech? More to the point, where do they do the silk-screening? It looks like they're in Montanna, which makes them convenient to just about everywhere.

One thought to ponder....

Do any of our members have a business established where they can take credit cards? I'm seeing this as possibly the easiest way to handle international sales. Otherwise, maybe we can use PayPal, although if we do something like that, we'll have to build the extra cost into the price of each strap.
OP Tech ships from Montanna. Everything is done in house. good idea about the CC. Any one out there that can help?

[chris.bailey]

I'm interested. I have one and they are great. IanD, what was the minimum order. Counting back over this thread we have about 50. Think we need Pekkas input on the Logo.

[CoolToolGuy]

Can't help with the CC, sorry.

PayPal works for me if it is agreeable. CC is okay, too.

I'll throw my vote again for OP/TECH Pro. And I assume one color means the screen. I would be interested in several straps, and if possible I would like a black one (for the 20D), a grey one (Drebel) and another color (Elan 7). This makes them easier to identify in the gadget bag. If OP/TECH can mix the strap colors for no extra charge, fine. If there is a premium, skip it.

As for the logo, the one on the home page seems to be fine. Ideally, it would be cool to have additional printing on the part of the strap close to the buckles, so folks would see it when you are facing them. 'POTN' on one side, and 'Canon' on the other. Just a thought...

My (latest) 2 cents.

Have Fun,

[IanD]

Ok folks, here is the space we have for the logo. 1" x 5".
The reason for this, for folks who have not seen a OPTech Pro Strap, is that there is a band of heavey duty stretch material running around the strap. It is sewn to the neoprene main strap at the 2 ends and then again in 2 places equal distance from the center of the strap.This band is what makes the strap work so well. There is 5' between the 2 middle seams. Therefore the logo has to fit into a space of 1" x 5" max. You can sort of see the size we are dealing with in the image at the beginning of this thread.
So for all you PS gurus out there, have at it and remember that Pekka has final word in the design.
PS also remember that we can only have 1 colour for the screening.
Foe those concerned that silk screening would wear out very quickly, OP Tech's quality is exceptional and very long lasting. I've had my strap now for a year and the printing on it still looks new.

[tommykjensen]

When cost has been calculated I suggest that maybe $5 is added to the cost which then is donated to Pekka :)

If You haven't seen yet have a look here: http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=57667

[Conk]

Did anyone consider a hat? It would be way cheaper.

[tommykjensen]

Did anyone consider a hat? It would be way cheaper.

Well I would rather have a camera strap but an idea could also be

http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/

they sell customized merchandise. It looks really easy to setup Your own webshop through and make a little money on those items.

[Belmondo]

When cost has been calculated I suggest that maybe $5 is added to the cost which then is donated to Pekka :)

If You haven't seen yet have a look here: http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=57667


As for the hat suggestion, there isn't a one-size-fits-all hat that will fit my head. Besides, I prefer the itinerant laborer straw-hat look.

[aam1234]

I was thinking that maybe Pekka can get something out of the strap idea to help him support this forum. I don't know how, but maybe somebody have an idea.

[aam1234]

Ok, I have an idea now. How about we add few $US to the cost of the strap and that amount goes to Pekka.

[tommykjensen]

Ok, I have an idea now. How about we add few $US to the cost of the strap and that amount goes to Pekka.

See previous post:

When cost has been calculated I suggest that maybe $5 is added to the cost which then is donated to Pekka :)

If You haven't seen yet have a look here: http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=57667

[IanD]

OK, we are getting close. The only hold up right now is who is going to receive the straps and ship them out. I would be happy to do so but being that I live in Canada, the transportation to here plus the added duties and taxes would make this a very expensive strap. What we need is a volunteer to accept delivery and then to ship the straps out to the members who have purchased them. The cost of delivery has to be factored into the final cost of the strap. As well, the cost of a padded mailer has to be included but they are not very expensive.
We will need to also figure out payment. not everyone likes or uses PayPal so someones going to be receiving a boat load of checks that have to be processed. Who is up for the challenge?
Also, do you want me to post the costing for the strap? Nothing to hide. I also agree that we should tack on an extra $5 to be donated to server costs.
If you have any ideas you do not want to discuss in the "open" PM me.
Volunteers, take one step forward. :) :)

[aam1234]

Thanks Tommy. So we have two votes now.

Ok guys, if you let me imagine a bit, and if this idea takes off, we can expand it a bit. Like having a hat/cap as somebody suggested and maybe a T-shirt. All to support this site.

[aam1234]

Hi Ian,

Do you think the company can handel the transaction part. I mean to let them handel the orders, shipping, payment..etc.

[Belmondo]

Hi Ian,

Do you think the company can handel the transaction part. I mean to let them handel the orders, shipping, payment..etc.

That sounds eerily similar to "The Firm." You guys aren't CIA, are you?

[aam1234]

You guys aren't CIA, are you?

Oh yes we are, you better watch out for...Canon Is Awesome

[pradeep1]

I'd take one or two if they are nice. Canon POTN. Poutine.

[Nightcrawler]

I would be in for one too. I agree, it would be nice if we could pad the price a little to go to Pekka for the server costs.

[Mills]

OP Tech Pro strap. They will do custom printing but there is a rather large minimum order to place.
Anyone interested in pursuing this further?

I'll take Two!

[IanD]

Hi Ian,

Do you think the company can handle the transaction part. I mean to let them handle the orders, shipping, payment..etc.
Unfortunately OPTech cannot ship individual orders. We will have to do that ourselves. Still looking for a volunteer.:):)

[Tom W]

If I could deal with credit cards and such, I'd volunteer. But I can't do CC, and I'm opposed to paypal. Somebody with their own business would have the right stuff, I think.

[pcasciola]

I think this is a great idea. I'll volunteer to handle the shipping. I can accept payments through Paypal by credit card or by paypal transfer which is a little cheaper. Paypal is easy, too, because I use it to print out pre-paid shipping labels for all the U.S. shipments.

[dwildone]

I, too, would volunteer to take care of the shipping but I do not have any way other than Paypal to process payments. I'm just about smack dab in the middle of the country to make the disbersment as efficient as possible if no better way to process payments presents itself.

[Conk]

Aside from the issues of getting the payments and shipping worked out, I'd still like to propose caps and t-shirts. Especially T's. These straps I'm guessing are likely not much less than $20.00-$25.00 U.S. Even at quantity. I'd like somebody to confirm this. Hats and t's are very affordable and a great source of advertisement. Hell, you can even go with a couple colours. I get a feeling these straps are not going to be cheap. The only guys buying them after the novelty wears down will be the people who own high end gear. I guess what I'm saying is that they should be made affordable for all.
Any comments on this?

[IanD]

Aside from the issues of getting the payments and shipping worked out, I'd still like to propose caps and t-shirts. Especially T's. These straps I'm guessing are likely not much less than $20.00-$25.00 U.S. Even at quantity. I'd like somebody to confirm this. Hats and t's are very affordable and a great source of advertisement. Hell, you can even go with a couple colours. I get a feeling these straps are not going to be cheap. The only guys buying them after the novelty wears down will be the people who own high end gear. I guess what I'm saying is that they should be made affordable for all.
Any comments on this?
They will be in that price range, with no profit save for a couple of dollars to go to server costs. I like the T-ee shirt/cap idea too. Maybe we should have a poll to see which one would be the best to go with. Is it feasible to have all 3 items?

[tommykjensen]

They will be in that price range, with no profit save for a couple of dollars to go to server costs. I like the T-ee shirt/cap idea too. Maybe we should have a poll to see which one would be the best to go with. Is it feasible to have all 3 items?

The caps/T-ee shirt idea would be easy to implement with

http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/

[Belmondo]

Tee shirts and baseball caps are somewhat gender specific. I don't know how many female members we have, but those among them who drive truck for a living might find nothing objectionable about tee shirts and baseball caps. All others would likely find little use for them

How about pot holders or fly swatters? They're gender-neutral

[tommykjensen]

Tee shirts and baseball caps are somewhat gender specific. I don't know how many female members we have, but those among them who drive truck for a living might find nothing objectionable about tee shirts and baseball caps. All others would likely find little use for them

How about pot holders or fly swatters? They're gender-neutral

Cafepress have lots of different items such as mugs, mousepads, wallclocks etc

See full listing here: http://www.cafepress.com/cp/customize/?viewall=true

[tommykjensen]

Or what about a wall calendar with photos from the members (incl. at least one from Charlesu :cool: )?

http://www.cafepress.com/cp/customize/product.aspx?clear=true&no=75

This one should probably be for 2006 ;)

[Belmondo]

I already have mugs, I use a trackball, and there's no room on the wall for a clock.

Tee-shirts look like circus tents on me (XXL), and as stated earlier, I've yet to find a baseball cap that will fit my rather large head.

I think the neckstrap is a good idea because it will give us the chance to 'wear the colors' when we're out using our equipment and enjoying our hobby. It's photography-related, useful, and good quality merchandise.

Most of the other things are simply junk, and the local real estate agents keep me well-stocked with them.

(anyone want a ball point pen?)

[Tom W]

Or what about a wall calendar with photos from the members (incl. at least one from Charlesu :cool: )?

I'd like a whole CharlesU calander! :)

This one should probably be for 2006 ;)

One could probably get a good price on a 2004 model. ;)

[Tom W]

I think that the caps/t-shirts/calanders type thing might be a good idea, but separate from this. I seem to recall people being able to set up an account at Cafepress where others could buy from a selection of customized items.

But this idea is more functional - OpTech camera straps are well-regarded and specific to the photographic function.

As always, Pekka gets the final word.

[tommykjensen]

I think that the caps/t-shirts/calanders type thing might be a good idea, but separate from this. I seem to recall people being able to set up an account at Cafepress where others could buy from a selection of customized items.

But this idea is more functional - OpTech camera straps are well-regarded and specific to the photographic function.

As always, Pekka gets the final word.

Agree, I just brought up cafepress as an easy option to give Pekka a little money for the server cost. I would still prefer a camera strap :)

[CoolToolGuy]

I agree that the camera strap has a common interest for this group, and may be separate from another venture. I could be interested in a cap and/or a T-shirt, but they introduce issues like sizes and inventory. If we can find someone to step up to handle it, fine, and I especially like the idea of helping to defray the costs of the site.

Frankly, however, beyond caps and t-shirts I think there would be a very small market for POTN 'gear'. We may all be POT(N) heads, but I can't imagine there are people waiting in line for non-photography items related to the site.

That said, if we had something that folks found really desireable it might work out. An example: In Ocean City, MD there is a bar named M. R. Ducks that started selling shirts. The bar is named after a joke that is popular on the Eastern Shore of MD (see below). Each year they commission an artist to produce a graphic with a different breed of duck, and some folks (like myself) find it necessary to have each year's M. R. Ducks shirt. They now have about 5 stores that sell nothing but clothing, in addition to the bar. Most folks have no idea about the bar, they just like the shirts, hats, etc. If we could find an image that folks would like and have that screened, perhaps we could make a go of it. But now we're talking real work.

The joke - look here:

http://talbotstreetpier.com/mrducks/

I like the idea of helping defray the server costs, but the pain may be more than the gain.

Have Fun,

[tommykjensen]

I agree that the camera strap has a common interest for this group, and may be separate from another venture. I could be interested in a cap and/or a T-shirt, but they introduce issues like sizes and inventory. If we can find someone to step up to handle it, fine, and I especially like the idea of helping to defray the costs of the site.

Not needed with cafepress, they handle everything. One person creates a shop with the items, add logos etc. Users then order fra cafepress. The "owner" receive a percentage of the cost on the item. Noone needs to care about sizes, inventory etc.

[Mills]

I think that the caps/t-shirts/calanders type thing might be a good idea, but separate from this. I seem to recall people being able to set up an account at Cafepress where others could buy from a selection of customized items.

But this idea is more functional - OpTech camera straps are well-regarded and specific to the photographic function.

As always, Pekka gets the final word.

Absolutely. OpTech straps are great. I own two that are relatively new and would be proud to replace them!

[Youngster]

:rolleyes:

[4walls]

Here is a mock-up of a t-shirt design. Of course we would need to decide on
an appropriate graphic (maybe the CDPF official bird) and the text, but this
is just to give you an idea.

Cost is about $16 USD per t-shirt printed two sides with a discount for quantities
over 35. Shipping costs would be additional for the order then to ship to the
forum members as well. There are cheaper t-shirts available as well.

[4walls]

Here is another shirt design, this time in long sleeve. Only two colors available,
white or ash (ash is pictured here). This one is $14 per shirt printed on two
sides. Save $3 by only printing on one side.

[4walls]

Finally, here is the sweatshirt design. Also in white or ash (white pictured).
Price $17 printed on two sides. The cheapest plain t-shirts are $12 and $13 for ones with color on the collars. I think the sweatshirt is the way to go.

[dsze]

...I'd go for at least one of the OpTechs.

-daniel

[pcasciola]

I'd rather keep it just to straps for this round, to keep it simple, photography related, and see how it goes. Like others have said, Cafepress.com would be a good idea for all of the other suggestions made. That could be set up so the proceeds go directly to Pekka as well.

Anyway, for the strap, what would the silkscreen be?




The "Photography on the Net" graphic that appears on the front page
Photography-on-the.net in the same fonts as the logo on the front page
A new POTN logo (maybe in a Canon font)
POTNeer
The final decision would obviously be up to Pekka, or maybe just put it to a poll. I have a friend who is a graphic artist that would do me a favor and come up with a couple of ideas for a small POTN logo if need be.

[aam1234]

Yes, a poll would be a good idea.

[IanD]

:rolleyes:
Sort of looks like it says, "The Canadians". I like it! :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

[Youngster]

Sort of looks like it says, "The Canadians". I like it! :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Hehe :D

[Paul_O]

Count me in for at least a strap, anything we can do to support this forum is money well spent. Hopefully I'd like to bump into another POTN strap wearing member in Perth, Western Australia, that'd be a laugh!

Paul

[Belmondo]

Sort of looks like it says, "The Canadians". I like it! :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

It doesn't look like The Canadians.

It DOES look like Canon Ian. That's why you like it.

[ssim]

It doesn't look like The Canadians.

It DOES look like Canon Ian. That's why you like it.
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Canon Ian looks and sounds good to me. However me thinks that sales would be limited to 1 or 2 straps.http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gifhttp://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gifhttp://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gifhttp://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[paulhillion]

Count me in for at least a strap, anything we can do to support this forum is money well spent. Hopefully I'd like to bump into another POTN strap wearing member in Perth, Western Australia, that'd be a laugh!

PaulJust booked my ticket about an hour a go, arrive in Perth 5th November for a 6 month Oz experience....counting the days :-)

Count me in for a strap, sounds a great idea!

[Conk]

In a poll I have a feeling that straps would win. I don't think the idea of shirts or hats should be dismissed though. I for one spent $30.00 on my neck strap and love it. Model N-25 http://www.tamrac.com/welcome.htm
I not likely would change for a different strap. I would buy a hat, shirt and sweat.
So I say, go ahead, get started with the straps, but I sure hope down the road the option for shirts and hats come up. The cost will be waaay cheaper and I'll bet t's will fly off the shelves.

[Conk]

One other thing came to mind, how about a Canadian distributer and American? Is that feasible?

[pcasciola]

One other thing came to mind, how about a Canadian distributer and American? Is that feasible?

I'm not sure that would really pay. I've already made a trip to the post office and inquired about shipping to 4 different countries, and the U.S. and Canada are not far off in shipping rates, only an extra 40 cents for postage to Canada.

[tommykjensen]

I'm not sure that would really pay. I've already made a trip to the post office and inquired about shipping to 4 different countries, and the U.S. and Canada are not far off in shipping rates, only an extra 40 cents for postage to Canada.

I think the bigger problem is for us europeans :(

[pcasciola]

I think the bigger problem is for us europeans :(

I checked the U.K. rates actually, to get an idea, and it's not too bad. Only about $4-5 more than it was here in the U.S.

I also got the rates for Australia which was just a little more than the U.K., but I forgot about New Zealand which will hopefully not be much more than Australia.

[CoolToolGuy]

Would it make sense to have 3 or so 'distribution points' - one in the USA, one in Europe, and one in Australia? The straps could be shipped in bulk to these points and then shipped individually using 'local' postal service. Would the ultimate shipping charges be less using local?

This, of course, would require 3 folks to pony up and handle the receiving, packing, and reshipping.

Another 2 cents.

Have Fun,

[theflyingkiwi]

I checked the U.K. rates actually, to get an idea, and it's not too bad. Only about $4-5 more than it was here in the U.S.

I also got the rates for Australia which was just a little more than the U.K., but I forgot about New Zealand which will hopefully not be much more than Australia.


I am disappointed now :) not to sure if I would buy one. After forgetting little NZ. :lol:

ohh dear, how sad, never mind. :lol:

Anyway I think this is a great idea. At this stage I would think that it's alot better to start out with one item and work up from there. If there isn't a great amount of interest, then the starting costs will be keep to a mininum. Which wont effect those that are willing to spend a small amount of time for the greater good :)

I would also recommend a competition for a logo. Which then could be used for this web site? (with Pekka's agreement) One thing that would have to be remembered is the use of the Canon logo, which would be copyrighted and a registered trademark. Which might also in effect mean the font that they use?

I would hate to step on there toes, then we might all have to switch to that other camera. :)

anyway that's my 2 cents.

[Pekka]

I think making our own accessories is an excellent idea. The forum name and URL can of course be used. http://www.cafepress.com sounds ok, but a good strap sounds better!

Use of Canon logo in commercial use needs of course permission. I can ask that from them if it is needed. It would be easiest to keep this non profit, or use text which is not using the graphic Canon logo. Because the print area in strap is very limited, wouldn't it be best to avoid anything graphical? The point of having such a community item is to let other know that we belong here and let them know where this place is and what the mood here is. And perhaps something that might trigger discussion. So that is why I would personally prefer simple witty slogans :) like

[CoolToolGuy]

Of the ones Pekka suggests, I like 'Shooting For Food - Zero Bullets'.

Some of the others would not entice me, as they do not pertain to my type of photography.

My (latest) 2 cents.

Have Fun,

[IanD]

I REALLY like the duck logo:):):):):):)
Final pricing will be posted tomorrow or Tuesday as soon as I get a reply to my last email to OP Tech. As stated and requested by Pekka, these straps will be sold with zero profit except for a small add on that will go directly to help with the cost of operating our "home".
Check back tomorrow for a "sticky' on cost.

[mikesd]

This is of course a great idea and I dont want to complicate things but we might want to consider in the future a strap that might simply state the forums name and url. I think something like this might fit in better when someone is shooting in a more formal situation such as weddings. Just a thought.

[Tom W]

I was thinking something more along the lines of:

www.photography-on-the.net
A meeting place for Canon digital Photographers

I'm really in favor of the Canon thing, but I'm also very wary of using the name improperly.

[CoolToolGuy]

Tom,

I'm with you on this. No offense to Pekka, but many of his suggestions are 'inside jokes' that only forum members or Canon photographers will 'get'. I like to be witty, but I don't think it works in this case. And I absolutely am not interested in spending this amount on an inside joke about ducks, as I don't seek them out - even though I get the joke.

Another 2 cents.

Have Fun,

[Conk]

I think anyone who is familiar with Canon would know exactly what the colour represents here.

[4walls]

I think anyone who is familiar with Canon would know exactly what the colour represents here.
I like this one, but wouldn't mind "CANON DIGITAL PHOTOGRAPHY FORUM" above or below it in a smaller font size, or vice versa.

[Conk]

I like this one, but wouldn't mind "CANON DIGITAL PHOTOGRAPHY FORUM" above or below it in a smaller font size, or vice versa.

Sure, that would be cool too. I just took a couple minutes in photoshop for this. I just thought of white lettering with a red line would represent Canon. Whatever the wording is I'm sure will be good. There's a lot of minds here to put things together.
I just hope there's a vote on the final examples so that we all have a say.

[Belmondo]

I like Conk's idea.....simple, straightforward.

The idea of humorous slogans has some appeal, but after the laughter dies down, it does nothing for the forum. The URL is a great conversation starter. The absence of 'Canon' on the strap is not a problem. It is clear enough on the camera.

I like the red stripe, but suspect it will add to the cost.

[CyberDyneSystems]

Oh,.. it simply HAS to have a RED stripe,. otherwise I won't buy it!

Yes,. I'm an admitted "L" Snob!!!!!!! :lol:

[Nightcrawler]

If it has a red stripe, it'll be the only one I have for now :(

Need to start saving.......

[CoolToolGuy]

I like Conk's idea.....simple, straightforward.

I like the red stripe, but suspect it will add to the cost.

Seems to me I saw earlier in this thread that the screening is limited to one color (from OP/TECH). The red stripe would be way cool, though.

I like Conk's idea as well.

I also like the suggestion from 4walls - add 'Canon Digital Photography Forums'

Have Fun,

[Conk]

The red stripe couldn't possibly that much more money. The initial cost would be in the setup after that the screening is relatively cheap. Don't count it out. I'd like to see if we could look into this.

[Conk]

Pekka said he could see if Canon would allow the use of their name and font. He uses it for the website so there is a possibilty that we could use it here. I made another example but used the closest font that I could come up with. I'm sure when it cam down to it we could get the proper font.
Whatcha all think? :D

[CyberDyneSystems]

The red stripe couldn't possibly (add) that much more money....

:lol: :lol::lol: :lol::lol: :lol::lol: :lol::lol: :lol::lol: :lol::lol: :lol:

Think about it!!!!!!! The irony! :mrgreen:

Anyway,. I'd by that for sure!

If the Red Stripe adds another $30.00 to the cost of the strap, we'll just have to make one with and one without,. and all of us "L" snobs will have something else that we can lord over the "others" :lol:


ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!

Oh man I'm gonna get in trouble for this....

[4walls]

Sure, that would be cool too. I just took a couple minutes in photoshop for
this. I just thought of white lettering with a red line would represent Canon. Whatever the
wording is I'm sure will be good. There's a lot of minds here to put things together.
I just hope there's a vote on the final examples so that we all have a say.
I think that mikesd had a good point as well. If there are pros who are going to be
using the strap in a formal setting (such as a wedding), then we don't want some humorous
thing on there... keep it simple and easy to remember.... let's drive some traffic to the
fourm.

On a totally seperate note: this new forum software is quite clever. It only quotes the
author's message, not like the old software, and I quote "quoted quotes inside the quotee's
quote". (close quotation marks :) )

[Conk]

:lol: :lol::lol: :lol::lol: :lol::lol: :lol::lol: :lol::lol: :lol::lol: :lol:

Think about it!!!!!!! The irony! :mrgreen:

Anyway,. I'd by that for sure!


Doh! :lol: Ha ha, what a gut buster! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Pekka]

Pekka said he could see if Canon would allow the use of their name and font. He uses it for the website so there is a possibilty that we could use it here. I made another example but used the closest font that I could come up with. I'm sure when it cam down to it we could get the proper font.
Whatcha all think? :D

I like this very much! And it actually does not even need the real logo to be effective. The color is enough.

(PS. the slogan versions work better for T-shirts or (T-shorts) , i know most of them are not what you would wear on PJ jobs :) )

[Pekka]

Here is the Canon logo in few vector formats. I did it based on http://www.canon.com/about/mark/index.html

[Paul_O]

Pekka said he could see if Canon would allow the use of their name and font. He uses it for the website so there is a possibilty that we could use it here. I made another example but used the closest font that I could come up with. I'm sure when it cam down to it we could get the proper font.
Whatcha all think? :D

I personally really like this one Conk, It's not a joke and gets the message across. At least I'd have one bit of kit with a red stripe:rolleyes:

Paul

[CoolToolGuy]

:lol: :lol::lol: :lol::lol: :lol::lol: :lol::lol: :lol::lol: :lol::lol: :lol:

Think about it!!!!!!! The irony! :mrgreen:

Anyway,. I'd by that for sure!

If the Red Stripe adds another $30.00 to the cost of the strap, we'll just have to make one with and one without,. and all of us "L" snobs will have something else that we can lord over the "others" :lol:


ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!

Oh man I'm gonna get in trouble for this....

The one-color restriction may be because of OP/TECH's capabilities.

But we could, potentially, fix it in 'post-processing' with a sewn-on or glued-on piece of ribbon. :rolleyes: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Have Fun,

[Longwatcher]

Avoid t-shirts and hats. I won't buy the hat (it gets between me and my viewfinder) and I am getting tired of t-shirts, although I might still get one of those.

I like the red stripe idea if it could be done and if it does not add a lot to cost. Maybe do it all in red.

But if you are going to have a snappy logo I am in favor of

Photography-on-the.net
Going straight to "L"

I think you could generate more sales by leaving off the Canon name and just going with "Photography-on-the.net" that leaves it open for others to buy the straps.

BTW do you think these straps will work for camera bags as sholder straps? I tend to use hand straps on my camera, but wouldn't mind switching out the strap on a bag or two.

Has some one considered the initial purchase cost total? Or is the plan to take money then order?

Just my opinion and whether I buy or not will depend on how much total and how much of that going to site.

[Conk]

I like this very much! And it actually does not even need the real logo to be effective. The color is enough.

(PS. the slogan versions work better for T-shirts or (T-shorts) , i know most of them are not what you would wear on PJ jobs :) )
I'm really liking it too the more I look at it. Looks as though I'll be using a red sharpie to get the red line now though. Only one colour available.

Seeing how Ian has managed to come up with all the specs on our new strap, we need to figure out exactly what is going on it. Maybe have a special thread for it for a week for submissions, then a vote.

[thomascanty]

I'm really liking it too the more I look at it. Looks as though I'll be using a red sharpie to get the red line now though. Only one colour available.

What if all the text was in red, too? Then it would be one color. Or would that be too much red?

[4walls]

What a great idea for this strap... whoever suggested it should get a free one! :D

[4walls]

For pricing click here. (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=58036)

For logo design click here. (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=58056)

[Marvinspu36]

I'm in for one.