Lighting

[cbr929rrerion]

Can anyone help me with learning how to do this type of lighting, the settings and type of lights used.

Any help appreciated..

R

http://www.modelmayhem.com/pics.php?id=821293

[amonline]

Single softbox or beauty dish in a fairly dark room. Background shouldn't matter, but get them over 5' away at least. lay a black sheet on the floor and your golden.

[cbr929rrerion]

I have savage paper, black, I have 2 AB 800 and the octobox and several umbrella's, just did not know, I assume I use a very low setting for the strobe..

I did not know if a strobe or continous light source was being used...

[woodsters]

I have savage paper, black, I have 2 AB 800 and the octobox and several umbrella's, just did not know, I assume I use a very low setting for the strobe..

I did not know if a strobe or continous light source was being used...


I'd like to know that as well...because if you have a dark room and are using a strobe, how can you see what you are shooting? lol I mean do you set the scene in the light first, and then turn off the lights and then take it with the strobe?

[cbr929rrerion]

They have modeling lamps....

[amonline]

It very well could be constant light, but I'd personally break out the 50" SB.

[Murphy66]

I have shot similar shots and what you have to keep in mind is the size of your light source. Do you want to light the whole torso or just a selective part?

My favorite way to shoot that style is to use a diffusion panel and one single AB800. If you use the AB light controller, there is a switch on top that sets your modeling lamp to 100% power so you can focus but the strobe will fire at your setting. BTW, the further away you place the light behind the diffusion panel, the larger the light source.

Use a tripod and play with f/1.8 - 3.2and you'll get some great DOF.

This was shot a f/2.8 and a single AB800 and a diffusion panel.

http://www.marcottephotography.com/data/web/maternity.jpg

*mod note, changed image to a link as I'm moving the thread into the new talk about forums*

[symes]

They have modeling lamps....

bingo

[cbr929rrerion]

I think it is continous light, its beautiful work, I love stuff like that and am going to start practicing those, That guy is awesome and some beautiful models as well..

[bieber]

It's impossible to tell if it's continuous or strobe, as light is the same regardless. That being said, it's probably strobe, for two reasons
A) The vast majority of photographers use them over continuous. The advantages are just huge over continuous
B)The completely black background. Trying to do that with continuous lights would be pretty tricky, and pretty much require working in an almost completely dark room. With strobes, you can blast away the ambient no problem: the room wouldn't need to be dark at all.

[charlesu]

Strobes. Softboxes or strips probably. Flags as well. Black backdrop. Piece of cake to do.

[themirage]

I think when I did one of these shots I had the model far from the wall, lights off in the room, AB400 in a softbox as close to the model as I could. Then using a fast shutter speed, I played with the aperture to control the amount of light on the subject.

The fast shutter speed helped reduce ambient light and freeze the light before it spilled out.

[bieber]

I think when I did one of these shots I had the model far from the wall, lights off in the room, AB400 in a softbox as close to the model as I could. Then using a fast shutter speed, I played with the aperture to control the amount of light on the subject.

The fast shutter speed helped reduce ambient light and freeze the light before it spilled out.

At 1/250 second, with any reasonable amount of strobe power, you shouldn't need the lights off in the room, as the strobes should be massively overpowering the ambient

[themirage]

I think thats my point. Keep a high shutter speed. The slower you make it the more ambient you'll get and the more spread of the strobe.

[bieber]

I think thats my point. Keep a high shutter speed. The slower you make it the more ambient you'll get and the more spread of the strobe.
Spread of the strobe? Your shutter speed has no bearing whatsoever on your strobe exposure: that only lasts a tiny, tiny fraction of a second.

[themirage]

Okay Bieber, I may have my terminology wrong but I think what I'm trying to say is sound. Below are two images with the same aperture and ISO. The only difference being the shutter speed. You can see that the one with the slower shutter speed lets the light 'spread' far enough to hit the gray paper 8ft back and make it lighter than the other photo.

Faster Shutter Speed

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Slower Shutter Speed

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[themirage]

Anyhow here's a pic kind of like those he was trying to create using the same model used above.

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[bieber]

That's not the light from the strobe "spreading," that's ambient affecting your exposure. Most of it probably from your strobe's modeling light, which is giving you the impression that the strobe itself is somehow burning in longer.

[Mark1]

My guess it is something like this....

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/2033/lightingsetuphj8.jpg

Big box to soften the light, but far enough away to make it a bit directional again.

[themirage]

That's not the light from the strobe "spreading," that's ambient affecting your exposure. Most of it probably from your strobe's modeling light, which is giving you the impression that the strobe itself is somehow burning in longer.

The modeling light is off when the photo is taken. I've tried it again without the modeling lamp, dark room so I had to lock the focus, and the result is the same.

Now that being said, you can reduce the amount of light the spreads out that way by gridding the softbox to keep the direction of the light more focused on the subject.

[bieber]

The modeling light is off when the photo is taken. I've tried it again without the modeling lamp, dark room so I had to lock the focus, and the result is the same.

Now that being said, you can reduce the amount of light the spreads out that way by gridding the softbox to keep the direction of the light more focused on the subject.
The modeling lamp is off when the strobe goes off, but it should come right back on again afterwards. There is no way for light from a strobe to "spread" over time. It travels at, well, the speed of light, and it's gone its course in a much, much shorter time than even the 1/250 of a second that your shutter is open at the max sync speed. Anything that comes in after that is ambient.

[themirage]

Alright. I'll leave this one alone. I don't think we are going to come to a census on this. I think the Thread Author got his answer.

[mdmedicgod]

The one variable that wasn't asked.. What aperature were you shooting? I can use strobe in the broad daylight and have my subject lit but the background falls to black