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Illegally_Alive
10th of February 2005 (Thu), 23:50
Which do you have?

DocFrankenstein
10th of February 2005 (Thu), 23:52
Highspeed :D;)

Illegally_Alive
10th of February 2005 (Thu), 23:53
Me too!
It took me a second, I don't know how to work this contraption :rolleyes:

p.s. Doc, I think yours may be faster than mine :lol:

johnleveritt
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 00:09
Highspeed.

tim
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 00:35
Do people still use modems?

Jesper
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 01:09
High speed, ADSL, 1120 kbit/s download, 352 kbit/s upload, and they're going to upgrade it soon to 1600 / 512.

I don't know how it is in the USA, but ADSL (fast Internet connection via the telephone line, but you can still use the telephone at the same time) has become hugely popular here in Western Europe in the last two years.

aam1234
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 04:02
Both here. ADSL at home and dial-up in the other location (can't get ADSL there because it's too far from the exchange).

Belmondo
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 04:09
Cable internet.

I've never clocked it, but it's certainly fast enough for me.

racingzone
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 04:40
I think most here use highspeed connection. It will certainly will take alot of patience if you have to view photos using dialup. Just my 2cent...

rpcm
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 06:20
Just heard from BT that they are never going to upgrade our system. So it looks like we are stuck with dialup for the forseeable future, which is a real pain. BT are going to have 97.5% of the country on high speed very soon. The other 2.5% are not going to be upgraded-- Guess were I live

PacAce
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 06:37
I think most here use highspeed connection. It will certainly will take alot of patience if you have to view photos using dialup. Just my 2cent...

Still using dial-up. :confused: I don't have cable and the phone company won't give me enough filters (I need 12 dual-lines) for all my phone jacks so that I can use DSL.

And, no, I don't have a lot of patience so I skip over all photos that take too long to download or posts with too many photos in it. :(

rebel61021
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 06:41
what is a modem Broad band is the way to go.

steven
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 06:43
Still using dial-up. :confused: I don't have cable and the phone company won't give me enough filters (I need 12 dual-lines) for all my phone jacks so that I can use DSL.

Who is telling you that you need filters on all your lines for DSL??

I have dsl and I can use or not use the filters and I see (or hear) no difference.

PacAce
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 06:52
Who is telling you that you need filters on all your lines for DSL??

I have dsl and I can use or not use the filters and I see (or hear) no difference.

Well, you have voice data and line data on the same line. You would have to have filters to isolate them, no?

rssfhs
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 07:05
1233 kbit/s download. :-)

CyberDyneSystems
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 09:12
Leo,. I think you can buy more filters at Radio shack...

Also,. in my house I made the "split" from DSL line to voice line right at the roots (ie where the line comes into the building) thus,. all the voice lines come from branch "A" at the fork,.. and the DSL line come from branch "B: at the fork,..

this way I only needed to install a single filter,. which does the work for all of the voice braches that come of of it.

---- DSL -----\ <--- Branch "B"
. .. . .. . . . . . . \
. .. . .. . . . . . . .\________ Main phone line ______/
. .. . .. . . . . . . ./
. .. . .. . . [Filter Here] <--- Branch "A"
Voice_______/
Voice______/
Voice_____/
Voice____/
Voice___/
Voice__/

gramps
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 09:24
I have satellite "high speed", the phone company and the cable company are years away from doing anything with the internet in my area. If it wasn't for the uploading and down loading of photos I'd go back to dial up. The phrase "customer service" does not exist in the lanuage of the ISP that I am with.

Sketcher
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 10:34
Cable Broadband rated at 1.5up/3.5down. Actual line tests average 1up/3down but it's really more dependent on who I'm down'ing from because I can consistenly peg 3.4 down from a known reference outside of my subnet.

GSM/GPRS = rated 144kbps. Actual line tests average 130kbps. This is my primary backup internet connection.

Earthlink Dial-up = rated 56k. Actual line tests 46k. This is my secondary backup internet connection.

Blackberry 7100t & 7290 Mobile email/phone and rudimentary internet connection if/when all else fails.

My home office is a fully functional extension of my corporate network sans the ability to physically flip switches (but that''s being addressed).

PacAce
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 10:50
Leo,. I think you can buy more filters at Radio shack...
Yes I know but the point was that I wanted the phone company to provide them to me. I wasn't about to shell out another $150 or so just to get dual-line filters on top of the other extra expenses I'd incur going DSL. Besides, all my money went into digital camera gear and don't have any left for other stuff. :mrgreen:


Also,. in my house I made the "split" from DSL line to voice line right at the roots (ie where the line comes into the building) thus,. all the voice lines come from branch "A" at the fork,.. and the DSL line come from branch "B: at the fork,..

this way I only needed to install a single filter,. which does the work for all of the voice braches that come of of it.

---- DSL -----\ <--- Branch "B"
. .. . .. . . . . . . \
. .. . .. . . . . . . .\________ Main phone line ______/
. .. . .. . . . . . . ./
. .. . .. . . [Filter Here] <--- Branch "A"
Voice_______/
Voice______/
Voice_____/
Voice____/
Voice___/
Voice__/
At the time I was looking into DSL (last summer), I had 3 phone lines in my house, 2 lines in one physical wire (one for regular voice and the other for internet and fax) and a 3rd in a separately run wire (for my step-son). But now that the 3rd line is disconnected (step-son went off to college) I had a brainstorm this morning (after my inital posting in this thread) of splitting the voice/DSL signals outside the house and then running the DSL line into the house via the 3rd no longer used line. This will save me the bother of running a separate line into the house for DSL, which is what prevented me from going the splitter route in the first place. The 3rd line doesn't currently run to where I want to place the DSL modem/router but that'll be easy to fix since all I need to do is get it into the basement where I have my ethernet hub.

So, at this point, logistics is not the issue. It's my being able to justify to myself the extra ongoing expense of switching to DSL and the one-time charges of having a splitter installed outside the house. My main purpose for getting on the internet is to check my emails and to visit this forum. I don't do download of huge image, video or music files or anything else that really requires broadband so do I really need DSL? I guess I'd rather see that extra money going into an "L" lens than into something that I don't really find necessary for myself.

Maybe that'll change when the price of DSL comes down a little bit more but for now, I'm happy spending only $13.00 a month for my dial-up instead of the $35.00 or more for DSL.

Belmondo
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 11:10
I've tried a few different websites that supposedly measure your connect speed. I've gotten results all the way from 650KB/sec to 3550KB/sec.

Is there one that anyone thinks might be more accurate than the others?

johnleveritt
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 11:23
I've tried a few different websites that supposedly measure your connect speed. I've gotten results all the way from 650KB/sec to 3550KB/sec.

Is there one that anyone thinks might be more accurate than the others?

Here are the one's that I use. Cox (the one in the middle) may be local only, this is my cable company, but may be worth a try..

http://bandwidthplace.com/speedtest/
http://test.lvcm.com/
http://www.dslreports.com/stest?loc=2

psk4363
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 11:32
I've been on ADSL for 2 years now (512/256) but upgrading soon to a 2Mb service. Couldn't go back to dial-up now.
Cheers,
Barry

Belmondo
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 11:37
Here are the one's that I use. Cox (the one in the middle) may be local only, this is my cable company, but may be worth a try..

http://bandwidthplace.com/speedtest/
http://test.lvcm.com/
http://www.dslreports.com/stest?loc=2


Thanks, John. I ran the Cox test and show speeds of 3.13mbps download, and 375 KBS upload. I can live with that.

CoolToolGuy
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 11:40
Cable Internet at home - it was recently upgraded from 3.0 to 4.0.
T-something at work (a very large network)
Have Fun,

johnleveritt
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 11:42
Thanks, John. I ran the Cox test and show speeds of 3.13mbps download, and 375 KBS upload. I can live with that.

Your quite welcome.

defordphoto
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 12:08
Loving the new Pro 600/768 free upgrade just recently from Comcast. Yeah baby! :D

JZaun
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 13:49
My broad band cost $45 a month. I was paying $14 a month for Netzero and was real happy. After 6 months on broad band I re-installed Net Zero, 10 hours per month free for a back up and got AOL free for 6 months on my new lap top. I can now compare those 3 services and it is no contest. AOL stinks big time. Net zero is real good for a dial up and broad band flys!!! It will be real hard to go back to dial up.

JZ

Sicily1918
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 14:05
Here are the one's that I use. Cox (the one in the middle) may be local only, this is my cable company, but may be worth a try..

http://bandwidthplace.com/speedtest/
http://test.lvcm.com/
http://www.dslreports.com/stest?loc=2From dslreports.com:

2005-02-11 15:58:13 EST: 48088 / 34165
Your download speed : 49242384 bps, or 48088 kbps.
A 6011 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 34985422 bps, or 34165 kbps.

Now, in all fairness, the switched network and slow 100MBit NIC slowed down my throughput :mrgreen:

Belmondo
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 14:08
From dslreports.com:

2005-02-11 15:58:13 EST: 48088 / 34165
Your download speed : 49242384 bps, or 48088 kbps.
A 6011 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 34985422 bps, or 34165 kbps.

Now, in all fairness, the switched network and slow 100MBit NIC slowed down my throughput :mrgreen:


Harumph. Nobody likes a ..


Oh well.

Sicily1918
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 14:11
Harumph. Nobody likes a ..


Oh well.hahaha!

I'll test it from my house tonight... I think I should get about 3MBit and be a little more realistic than testing off of an OC-12.

defordphoto
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 14:32
hahaha!

I'll test it from my house tonight... I think I should get about 3MBit and be a little more realistic than testing off of an OC-12.

Ya think? ;)

pradeep1
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 15:30
Any gearhead who is a regular around these forums already has dropped big $$$, so to feed the addiction, you gotta get broadband. :)

Sketcher
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 15:59
From dslreports.com:

2005-02-11 15:58:13 EST: 48088 / 34165
Your download speed : 49242384 bps, or 48088 kbps.
A 6011 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 34985422 bps, or 34165 kbps.

Now, in all fairness, the switched network and slow 100MBit NIC slowed down my throughput :mrgreen: How much of your OC is reserved for Data? According to your test results, you're not even hitting the 100Mbps wall of your NIC. 38/48Mbps up/down isn't attainable by us mere mortals; but if you're pulling that down from an uncorked OC12 (622Mbps) than I'd say you're a little on the slow side ;). Then again, I tend to mix up that MB/Mb thing so never mind if the B's buzzing boggles both bents.

\bows to the throughput of OC

thomascanty
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 16:00
I didn't vote because there's no "both" option. At home I have DSL (I only recently got it, too -- last October). When I'm on the road, checking in from a hotel, I'm on dialup with my laptop (unless the hotel offers broadband).

I also check in here from work. There I'm either on a T1 line or using dialup, depending on which computer I'm using at the time.

Avalonthas
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 20:00
T1 Connection. Thank you work :P

musthavemuzk
11th of February 2005 (Fri), 20:18
been a lucky guy here. been online since 99 and have always had cable internet since that day.
not as fast as i want it to be but much faster than the dialups offered here.
word is they are upgrading this spring. supposed to get up 1meg down and 256 up. now it is 512/128

Monty

Sicily1918
14th of February 2005 (Mon), 14:28
How much of your OC is reserved for Data? According to your test results, you're not even hitting the 100Mbps wall of your NIC. 38/48Mbps up/down isn't attainable by us mere mortals; but if you're pulling that down from an uncorked OC12 (622Mbps) than I'd say you're a little on the slow side ;). Then again, I tend to mix up that MB/Mb thing so never mind if the B's buzzing boggles both bents.

\bows to the throughput of OCActually, we have four OC-12s. All of 'em are dedicatd to data, but it's all on a 100Mb switched network (I have four hops before I even get to the border router). The throughput (~6000KB) was consistent with all my other server-to-server transfers too -- 100Mbit NICs spike/burst at 100, but their sustained is somewhere around 45-50Mbit.

Claire
14th of February 2005 (Mon), 15:27
Dial up over here. They're working to fix broadband connection in my town, but it's been postponed. Either way, I doubt I can talk my folks into getting it. When I move from home they won't need anything but dial up. They're hardly ever online. I'm so getting broadband/DSL when I get my own place. Paying per minute sux!!!! :(

karusel
14th of February 2005 (Mon), 15:38
Cable Broadband rated at 1.5up/3.5down. Actual line tests average 1up/3down but it's really more dependent on who I'm down'ing from because I can consistenly peg 3.4 down from a known reference outside of my subnet.

GSM/GPRS = rated 144kbps. Actual line tests average 130kbps. This is my primary backup internet connection.

Earthlink Dial-up = rated 56k. Actual line tests 46k. This is my secondary backup internet connection.

Blackberry 7100t & 7290 Mobile email/phone and rudimentary internet connection if/when all else fails.

My home office is a fully functional extension of my corporate network sans the ability to physically flip switches (but that''s being addressed).

Tyler Durden would be so proud of you! :D

I have ADSL 1024 DL, 128 UL. It's fast enough for me... I care more about response time than download speed.

gramps
14th of February 2005 (Mon), 16:18
I didn't notice one connection here. When I travel I use my cell phone (verizon) to connect my laptop. I get about 300 -500 on the download side. After 9:00 PM it's free minutes!!!!!

Canuck
14th of February 2005 (Mon), 23:37
Just heard from BT that they are never going to upgrade our system. So it looks like we are stuck with dialup for the forseeable future, which is a real pain. BT are going to have 97.5% of the country on high speed very soon. The other 2.5% are not going to be upgraded-- Guess were I live

That is what they told me when I was over there. I was living in a small village outside Cambridge in Cambs and I think that there was some underhanded stuff done; the end of the day we got broadband and joined the rest of the 20th century.

tommykjensen
14th of February 2005 (Mon), 23:44
Well, you have voice data and line data on the same line. You would have to have filters to isolate them, no?

Some providers in Denmark install DSL on a new seperate line. I have a provider that does that. So my ISDN phone lines are completely seperate from my 3 Mbit DSL.

tommykjensen
14th of February 2005 (Mon), 23:56
Here are the one's that I use. Cox (the one in the middle) may be local only, this is my cable company, but may be worth a try..

http://bandwidthplace.com/speedtest/
http://test.lvcm.com/
http://www.dslreports.com/stest?loc=2

I just tried all 3 tests and they all give different results!

1: DL: 2.2 megabits per second UL: ??
2: DL: 2,488,960 bps UL 411,648 bps
3: DL: 1,369,017 bps UL: 659,739 bps

Persian-Rice
15th of February 2005 (Tue), 00:27
Low speed cable? im on 256/64. It sucks, but is good enough. I get about 30-40 K downlaod speeds max.

I can spend and extra $100 upfront and $25 dollars a month for 5mb/800k. But there are better ways to give your money away.

tommykjensen
15th of February 2005 (Tue), 00:32
Low speed cable? im on 512/64. It sucks, but is good enough. I get about 30-40 K downlaod speeds max.

I can spend and extra $100 upfront and $25 dollars a month for 5mb/800k. But there are better ways to give your money away.

$25 is dead cheap! That is about 1/5 of the cost of a 2 mb/512k in Denmark! And I just read in a brochure from the biggest danish tele provider that Denmark is in the low end of price - but nobody believe what that company say because they own all the cables other providers are dependant on!

EDIT: Ohh man... Just realized that Your price is probably canadian dollars? If thats so then it is even cheaper :(

Persian-Rice
15th of February 2005 (Tue), 01:24
Actually it comes out to $50 per month and $100 for the modem. As of today Toronto's major ISP (Rogers) is to put a 60gb total bandwith cap. Great! 60gb on a 5mbit/800kbit pipe? wtf is the point? our second choice is DSL and it is not available in most areas.

I know tons of guys who do 5-10 gigs a day on a connection like that....

I pay $25 for 256/64

If you exceed 60 gb more then three times in a year, they terminate your service indefinitly.

Can you beleive that? North America's second largest city has two ISPs, one is screwing its customers while the other one doesnt have service in 60% of the city...........

Moppie
15th of February 2005 (Tue), 02:05
I couldn't live with out highspeed :(

Olegis
15th of February 2005 (Tue), 02:13
ADSL 1.5Mbits (download) / 150Kbits (upload) here in Israel. It costs about 25-30$ a month.