View Full Version : First 1080p film with Canon EOS 5D MkII
Taity
29th of September 2008 (Mon), 12:41
Not sure if anyone else has posted about this, but this is suitably impressive..
http://www.vincentlaforet.com/
Adamora
29th of September 2008 (Mon), 13:01
500 years old :D!
nah just kidding, its been talked about alot before. this thread wont get much attention :).
BenJammin
29th of September 2008 (Mon), 13:29
haha, A little behind but it's ok.
Calicajun
29th of September 2008 (Mon), 15:44
Looked at it but didn't impress me, the video is jerking while playing.
gooble
29th of September 2008 (Mon), 15:55
Looked at it but didn't impress me, the video is jerking while playing.
Yeah, it must be a problem with the camera or the maker of the video. :rolleyes:
I guess I'm not sure what your're trying to say. It didn't impress because it was jerky or it didn't impress and it was jerky? Just so you know it plays fine on my computers and I thought it was impressive on many levels.
wu_wei0
29th of September 2008 (Mon), 17:48
Played perfectly on my computer. If my business could afford the purchase, the camera could be an asset.
lowrider
29th of September 2008 (Mon), 18:58
Looked at it but didn't impress me, the video is jerking while playing.
The jerkiness you saw was not the film, but your computer, browser, ISP or a combination of all three. It played fine for me on my Mac. And, I was impressed. Shooting HD video and audio from a still camera blows me away. Humongous memory needs I bet.
Lou
Youridin
29th of September 2008 (Mon), 20:28
Did that camera really record that film? I didn't know that professional photography cameras could record hd videos that comes out that good.
If that is the case why should i buy a 50d and not a 5d??
kona77
29th of September 2008 (Mon), 21:07
For a camera that size it packs a nice punch. But it is far from the 1080p a normal video person would shoot. Having compared the raw clip to the final version some serious post production was used. It may have it's merits but I would not buy it because of the video portion the same way I would not buy a video camera for stills.
Calicajun
29th of September 2008 (Mon), 22:59
"The jerkiness you saw was not the film, but your computer, browser, ISP or a combination of all three." lowrider.
So you saying that if I get a new 5DII, I'll need a new computer, browser and ISP, I can live with that.:) Good to hear that it was me and not the camera, as I like the idea of having video in the camera.
Collin85
29th of September 2008 (Mon), 23:05
The jerkiness you saw was not the film, but your computer, browser, ISP or a combination of all three.
Yep. Playing 1080p videos can be quite demanding on your computer.
gooble
29th of September 2008 (Mon), 23:18
For a camera that size it packs a nice punch. But it is far from the 1080p a normal video person would shoot. Having compared the raw clip to the final version some serious post production was used. It may have it's merits but I would not buy it because of the video portion the same way I would not buy a video camera for stills.
If you read Vincent's blog he states many times because people keep accusing him of shennanigans, that abosolutely no post production was done short of editing the clips together. That means no change to the look, color, contrast, grain, WB or whatever was made. You can believe him or not but I do. He's not some amateur he's a highly successful and accomplished photographer that has had his work published in many publications.
FlyingPhotog
29th of September 2008 (Mon), 23:29
If you read Vincent's blog he states many times because people keep accusing him of shennanigans, that abosolutely no post production was done short of editing the clips together. That means no change to the look, color, contrast, grain, WB or whatever was made. You can believe him or not but I do. He's not some amateur he's a highly successful and accomplished photographer that has had his work published in many publications.
From a video professional point of view, it's actually kind of hard to tell for sure what may have been done and what may not.
I've now seen "Reverie" and I've see the raw clips posted on CLC and the CLC raw clips are much noisier than the finished version of "Reverie."
However, the full res, full frame version of "Reverie" has not yet been released (that I know of) so maybe the noise is actually there in the final edit. AFAIK, there is only the version available through Vincent's Blog...
Vincent also states he's not a film maker or editor so he may not be entirely aware of what can be done on the quick and dirty even if the edit didn't take very long. There are noise reduction plug-ins for NLEs just like there are for Photoshop.
gooble
29th of September 2008 (Mon), 23:35
From a video professional point of view, it's actually kind of hard to tell for sure what may have been done and what may not.
I've now seen "Reverie" and I've see the raw clips posted on CLC and the CLC raw clips are much noisier than the finished version of "Reverie."
However, the full res, full frame version of "Reverie" has not yet been released (that I know of) so maybe the noise is actually there in the final edit. AFAIK, there is only the version available through Vincent's Blog...
Vincent also states he's not a film maker or editor so he may not be entirely aware of what can be done on the quick and dirty even if the edit didn't take very long. There are noise reduction plug-ins for NLEs just like there are for Photoshop.
Wouldn't reducing the video size reduce noise just the same as reducing a still? I'm not a video geek either but it makes sense.
Michael
29th of September 2008 (Mon), 23:49
This video looks good. I think I would get one with a Steadicam Merlin and have a nice video setup...
FlyingPhotog
29th of September 2008 (Mon), 23:54
Wouldn't reducing the video size reduce noise just the same as reducing a still? I'm not a video geek either but it makes sense.
Yes. But there's also actual compression at work that is resampling on the fly.
"Pixel Peeping" video actually makes more sense than doing so with a still because video has a finite native size due to the fact it's contained within the raster and has a fixed dpi.
You can't "up-rez" video to fit a bigger screen...
1080 is 1080 and that's all you'll ever get whereas with a still, you can increase the dpi to accomodate using it for a larger print.
Youridin
30th of September 2008 (Tue), 01:16
When does it actually come out?
I'm anxious to buy a dslr asap and i've been waiting for the 50d so how long would i have to wait for the new 5d mk2?
gooble
30th of September 2008 (Tue), 05:10
Yes. But there's also actual compression at work that is resampling on the fly.
"Pixel Peeping" video actually makes more sense than doing so with a still because video has a finite native size due to the fact it's contained within the raster and has a fixed dpi.
You can't "up-rez" video to fit a bigger screen...
1080 is 1080 and that's all you'll ever get whereas with a still, you can increase the dpi to accomodate using it for a larger print.
There're DVD players that upsample to all the way up to 1080p.
Adamora
30th of September 2008 (Tue), 11:48
you lose quality if you upsample it.
its like smearing butter over your len's and say its sharper this way.
vegasboy
1st of October 2008 (Wed), 23:50
Amazing video.
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