View Full Version : Criticism and feedback on this, please. Portrait
mi_reefy
29th of September 2008 (Mon), 16:45
This is the first portrait picture I shot from my Canon S5 IS that I'm proud of.
Post processing: BnW conversion and sharpening on PS CS3. Added vignette using Lightroom 2.
All CC are welcome. Keen learner. :D
-Reef
Robert_Lay
29th of September 2008 (Mon), 17:18
Whenever I see something that has obviously been cropped, I always wonder why and what got cropped. Usually it's not relevant and I wouldn't even mention it - just curious to see the whole frame.
This is a stunning image because there is such high contrast throughout the image.
Usually, I am not lucky enough to get one this good that is also candid and also has the subject looking me right in the eyes. So, that poses some more questions about what is going on here. In this instance it doesn't look like he is meeting your eyes but is looking more down and to his left. So, we don't know what he is looking at and we don't know if this is a grab shot or a candid portrait or what. Most of these aspects simply add to the mystery and interest in the picture.
If it were my picture, I would be trying to get more detail showing in the blacks, if it can be retrieved. Good as this image is, I think the deep shadows are blocked up a little too much. The highlights and mid-tones are just perfect.
The vignetting that you did is not obvious, so that is a plus.
Congratulations on one of the best monochromes seen here in a while.
mi_reefy
29th of September 2008 (Mon), 17:56
First of all, thank you very much for dropping by and commenting on the picture. Secondly, thank you for the words of encouragement.
Along with this reply I post the original picture (a little part cropped out from the bottom, and then resized according to forum rules).
I was lucky enough to get this shot, as I feel there is so much meaning and power in the overall pose of the subject. However, I was shooting landscapes, from the top of a moving bus in Nepal (yes, believe it or not!) on the widescreen mode in my S5, when I saw the man in the picture sitting on the side of the road all by himself; was shooting on the Manual mode, and hence didn't get the time to change picture size settings for this shot (hence required the crop; portrait WS, a little embarassing!)
I too agree that I've let loss of too much detail showing in the blacks.
I hope the original picture would relieve your curiosity to some extent.
Final crop on the completed monochrome was done so as to give maximum attention to the subject, and the depth of meaning on his face. I felt the colour version distracts the viewer from the attention the subject deserves.
Subtle vignette added only for my liking.
Many thanks again.
-Reef
Robert_Lay
30th of September 2008 (Tue), 11:12
Now that I see the original, I am even more impressed.
What you did with your B& W conversion and the way it is cropped made a masterpiece out of a snapshot. You are to be commended not only on having produced a fascinating image, but also for having the skills to create it from the original work.
Very impressive - congratulations!
mi_reefy
30th of September 2008 (Tue), 15:57
You are to be commended not only on having produced a fascinating image, but also for having the skills to create it from the original work.
Thank you very much. I still do have a mighty lot to learn!
Many thanks,
-Reef
DAMphyne
30th of September 2008 (Tue), 16:03
If Robert felt that way about one of my photos, I'd hang it immediately and submit it to National Geographic.:)
It's as good as it gets, you might as well quit now.;)
mi_reefy
30th of September 2008 (Tue), 17:45
If Robert felt that way about one of my photos, I'd hang it immediately and submit it to National Geographic.:)
It's as good as it gets, you might as well quit now.;)
Thanks a lot! Hehe, I'm too young to quit (learning, if thats what you meant,)... I'm sure theres a world of stuff I need to learn out there, about photography, post-processing, sincerity to the art of photography, etc...
I am just a starter in this field. More like a hobbyist at the moment.
Since this image is my first post here, and it has got such positive comments, I do feel like I am going to get a lot of negative comments in posts I would be putting up in the future; but that is exactly what I'm here for. Pressure! and to learn from experienced people like yourself, Mr Lay and others. :)
Priceless encouragement :D, Thank you. Please do C&C on further posts of mine.
Many thanks again.
-Reef
acchildress
30th of September 2008 (Tue), 17:46
Wasn't he one of the guides that took Indie down into the tomb?
mi_reefy
30th of September 2008 (Tue), 18:05
Wasn't he one of the guides that took Indie down into the tomb?
Please focus on the image, and possible improvements. Thank you
CMOats
30th of September 2008 (Tue), 20:04
Beautiful job you've done with this image!! Congrats!
Nathan
30th of September 2008 (Tue), 20:24
I love what you did with his eyes
mi_reefy
1st of October 2008 (Wed), 04:11
I love what you did with his eyes
Beautiful job you've done with this image!! Congrats!
Thank you very much for the compliments and encouragement.
joelham
15th of November 2008 (Sat), 06:41
How did you go about this conversion, i really like it.
Its like the original had pretty flat lighting and the second is such a nice and contrasty image.
good work
Walczak Photo
15th of November 2008 (Sat), 07:23
I have to agree with Bob in regards to the shadows here...while I do like the high contrast on the black & white and I do think the conversion fits this image, you lost a lot of details in the shadows, particularly around the center of the image on either side of the subject's left arm. In fact when I first looked at the image, I thought it was simply too dark as in under-exposed, but the highlights in the turban look correct. I'd really open up those shadows at least a bit as it's a little distracting.
I do like your choice of crops...goes to show how the impact of an image can change with only a very simple adjustment to the composition.
Just my $.02 worth,
Jim
Naturalist
15th of November 2008 (Sat), 07:30
Reef, you definitely have the eye of a documentary photographer and these images you have posted are wonderful work.
mi_reefy
15th of November 2008 (Sat), 10:54
Wow I'm so amazed and pleased this post has surfaced again... Its my very first here in POTN.
Getting back to topic, Firstly, many thanks to Joelham for digging this out of the lot and viewing; The conversion...it was quite some time back... If I remember correctly, I did the conversion using the Gradient Map along with Levels/Curves. I wasn't too familiar with dodging and burning back then, hence the lost details in the shadows, Jim, Thanks for viewing and commenting, I fully agree with you about the shadows. I really should get back to re-doing this image. Its one of the few shots I'm proud of. I know the original image wasn't anywhere near good but I was very pleased with my capture.
Thanks a lot Doug, I'm working on it :)
chauncey
15th of November 2008 (Sat), 11:11
While I'm not into that "gritty look" that is in vogue, I do recogonize that you have a superior "eye",
not only for the shot, but where to take it in PP.
mi_reefy
15th of November 2008 (Sat), 11:34
Thanks a lot chauncey, I really appreciate that :)
TekHouse
15th of November 2008 (Sat), 11:52
Thats an awesome photo in B&W..Its hard to believe that it came from that sorry to say, average color shot. Well done.
mi_reefy
15th of November 2008 (Sat), 12:11
Thats an awesome photo in B&W..Its hard to believe that it came from that sorry to say, average color shot. Well done.
It sure was just an average colour shot, if not less. Thanks a tonne for viewing and commenting!
SwingBopper
16th of November 2008 (Sun), 05:10
This photo is a remarkable character study. I don't think you should lighten the shadows as this will detract from the mood. I think you got it just right. Enter it into some contests and find out. Great work!
EDIT: SUBMIT it to the POTN BOOK VOLUME 3.
mi_reefy
16th of November 2008 (Sun), 11:46
This photo is a remarkable character study. I don't think you should lighten the shadows as this will detract from the mood. I think you got it just right. Enter it into some contests and find out. Great work!
EDIT: SUBMIT it to the POTN BOOK VOLUME 3.
Wow... Do you really think I should? :D
Thanks a million for the encouraging words :)
mi_reefy
16th of November 2008 (Sun), 18:25
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