E1 Hand Strap [Archive] - Canon Digital Photography Forums

pcasciola

12th of February 2005 (Sat), 10:06

In case anyone is interested, I just got a Canon E1 hand strap for my 20D. It has a really nice feel to it, but was not very easy to figure out how to attach correctly, and comes with no instructions. I'm not sure about the 10D and 300D, but on the 20D you have to have the BG-E2 grip attached for the additional eyelet to attach the strap too.

After poking around for a while I came across these instructions, so I figured I'd post them here in case anyone else buys this strap and is stumped on the proper attachment of it.

http://www.casciola.com/pics/e1strap.jpg

Paul_O

12th of February 2005 (Sat), 10:44

Without going to far off topic, for those that don't have the Battery Grip, I use the Hakuba hand strap on my 300D which is readily available on Ebay and I'm sure many brick and mortar stores. To me it's much more useful than the neck strap however it's got an additional lug on the left hand side so you can still use the neck strap if so desired.

Paul

RJSorensen

12th of February 2005 (Sat), 11:24

Can you still use the neck strap with the Canon model? How does that work . . . or not.

Edgar in ATL

12th of February 2005 (Sat), 11:41

It's one at a time - neck strap or hand strap. That's the major drawback to my thinking.

See correction later in thread, although I have not figured out how to do it exactly.

Cadwell

12th of February 2005 (Sat), 11:44

but was not very easy to figure out how to attach correctly, and comes with no instructions.

Canon sneakily hide the instructions. They come with the battery grip not the strap itself, cunning, eh? :lol:

pcasciola

12th of February 2005 (Sat), 12:11

Can you still use the neck strap with the Canon model? How does that work . . . or not.

Yes, you can use both at the same time, Check out #6 in the instructions, that's how to hook the neck strap to the hand strap. I'm not sure which hand grip Edgar is referring to where it's one or the other.

Cadwell, good call. I just checked my BG-E2 instructions and there it is. I never would have thought to look there.

stu

12th of February 2005 (Sat), 16:32

I bought the handstrap last year but took it back off the camera with the point of it being dificult to change lenses without the neck strap but it has just been put back on and i will try it out tomorrow,didnt think of looking at the battery grip instructions about the fitting of a strap,:) thanx

FlipsidE

12th of February 2005 (Sat), 16:35

Honestly, I had no idea that's what the handstrap looked like. I think this would make things a lot easier for handheld shooting. I might have to pick one up. Thanks!

FlipsidE

RJSorensen

12th of February 2005 (Sat), 16:54

Thank you Phil . . . I can see it now.

cc10d

12th of February 2005 (Sat), 16:55

Patrick 10D

13th of February 2005 (Sun), 02:14

As Phill says, you can have both the neck strap and the handstrap on at the same time. I ALWAYS (well almost) have the neck strap on and use the handstrap for added convience. Wouldn't be without one myself.

I have both the hand strap, and the neck strap - but my 20D is strapless! Neither is attached to my camera. I must be too stupid to figure out how to install both of them - even with the #6 image above ...

LOL. Should I send my 20D to Canon and ask them to install the straps ???

IanD

13th of February 2005 (Sun), 04:27

The hand strap it a great accessory. It gives a more secure feeling while holding a lot of money in your hand.:)
Without the instructions, some folks have found it a challenge to install, names with held to protect the guilty:):):):):):):):)

cc10d

13th of February 2005 (Sun), 09:27

For those that still do not see how the neckstap and handstrap get on the camera.

Maybe this will help, it is not perfectly illustrated.

Note the handstrap is being installed on the camera with the bg-e2 grip in the illustration above. #s 1-5.

In illustration 2, there is a slot left open in the tab the straps are going through.

This open slot is then used to put your neckstrap attatchment through. The strap shown with the arrows in illustration 6 is the neckstrap.

I hope this helps to visualize the two separate straps used together. First the handstrap goes on, with one of the three slots left open, then the neck strap is attatched using the open tab.

Patrick 10D

5th of July 2005 (Tue), 07:20

I can now see that I would never be a good sailor - I cannot tie knots, or deal with anything related to thread, fishing line, string, rope, laces, or straps. :mrgreen:

Anyway, I finally got my E1 attached to my 20D! I printed out the diagram (above), looked at it for 20 minutes (watching the Tour de France at the same time), and had two beers. 30 minutes later, it was "installed" and adjusted. I was so pleased with myself, that I gave myself a pass on mowing the lawn.

I will say that the handstrap is excellent and I can see that it makes me feel less concerned about carrying the camera around. Maybe next year, I will figure out how to attach the neck strap ...

martook

5th of July 2005 (Tue), 09:53

LOL!
I got my strap yesterday but didn't have a clue as to how to attach it. Being an engineer, I of course worked it out. Let's just say that it doesn't even resemble the way they did it in the picture above though... :D
*grabs the camera and starts all over again*

JET_PILOT

6th of July 2005 (Wed), 04:48

Been looking at getting one of these, anyone know if it's compatible with the Canon BGE3 grip for 350D

martook

6th of July 2005 (Wed), 12:56

jet_pilot: Of course it is! Just check your manual for the bg-e3, and you'll see how to attach the strap.

Nolz

6th of July 2005 (Wed), 15:45

AHHHH! So thats how its done!...I picked mine up a day before my 20D died. I will have it back on as soon as it comes back, if ever :(

Thanks for the instructions :) so very useful.

Lotto

7th of July 2005 (Thu), 02:02

I am thinking getting one for my 20D. I do use the vertical shutter and command dial more than half the time.

So my question for the owners of this strap: does it interfere with bottons at all?

CorruptedPhotographer

28th of July 2005 (Thu), 15:23

bump for a useful thread!

good job OP

RNeudorf

29th of July 2005 (Fri), 10:13

Just got my E1 and the 20D grip yesterday. Very comfortable to hold, especially with a 24-70L.
I can forsee that I will continue to use the grip/E1 combination in the future.

jtg

30th of July 2005 (Sat), 04:52

In case your interested in attaching the E1 hand strap to your DSLR, but your NOT a BG battery grip user.

Check out: http//www.camdapter.com

All the comforts of using a hand strap without the bulk/cost of the battery grip!

tim

30th of July 2005 (Sat), 20:18

I'm finding using the neck strap quite annoying with the grip when I have things sideways. Will the hand strap help with that? And how suitable is the hand strap for extended use, wedding use when like for 12 hours at a wedding?

CorruptedPhotographer

31st of July 2005 (Sun), 00:53

tim, I originally had the neck neck strap only. I found it useless because I dont hang my cmera around my neck very much because the strap is not of the best quality. The hand strao allows me to place my hand on the camera and rest it there rather than having it continuously grasping the camera body. Less tension on the muscles, they are less flexed.

Carzee

31st of July 2005 (Sun), 01:05

Does the Hand grip tend to slow down CF changeovers? Does it get in the way of the door?

CorruptedPhotographer

31st of July 2005 (Sun), 01:09

Carzee, would you holding the camera slow down changeovers? All you do is lift ur when u dont have a E-1 and slip it out when u do have an E-1. So no, it doesnt, not unless you have your hand strapped too tightly to it. And if you did that, the others button may be hard to reach.

tim

31st of July 2005 (Sun), 01:14

I have an Optech strap which is fine, but I find the strap gets in the way when I rotate the camera. I might try the hand grip.

Damn cameras cost a lot of money after you actually buy the camera.

CorruptedPhotographer

31st of July 2005 (Sun), 01:33

Damn cameras cost a lot of money after you actually buy the camera.

My sentiments exactly lol, check this thread:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=88460

Carzee

31st of July 2005 (Sun), 01:48

Just paid for a E1 from HongKong ebay shop, cheapest I could find. Delivery by chain of trained pigeons. Cost Aust$34, incl shipping.

FYI Brit pd 9.49. USD 16.70 for grip w/o shippg.
[ http://stores.ebay.com/Go4DC-Photo-Supplies-Online-Store ]

tim

31st of July 2005 (Sun), 02:47

Anyone got a pic of a hand strap on a 20D or similar?

CorruptedPhotographer

31st of July 2005 (Sun), 03:14

not a 20D, but the D60 resembles the 20D, same strap

http://www.dforum.de/Technik/bg-ed3/Bilder/d60-von-vorn.jpg

http://www.dforum.de/Technik/bg-ed3/Bilder/schlaufe00.jpg

http://www.dforum.de/Technik/bg-ed3/Bilder/schlaufe01.jpg

tim

31st of July 2005 (Sun), 03:29

Thanks Saif - I think i'll get me one :)

CorruptedPhotographer

31st of July 2005 (Sun), 04:42

Are there many retail stores in NZ? Or do you purchase over the net from abroad?

tim

31st of July 2005 (Sun), 05:11

There are plenty of stores, and plenty of camera stores, but since the market here is small (3 million people in the country) most places don't stock high end cameras or accessories. I buy almost everything from B&H in New York.

CorruptedPhotographer

31st of July 2005 (Sun), 05:44

thats fantastic tim!

I would love to visit NZ some time!

rklepper

31st of July 2005 (Sun), 07:10

I just ordered the hand strap for my XT. Glad I saw this as I was wanting to use both.

Carzee

7th of August 2005 (Sun), 21:19

Just recvd and fitted the E-1 using the info on this thread. And the Optech as well. Thx all.

The CF card is a tad harder to grab out / put in... unless I slacken the grip. Maybe I have it too tight. I like it firm against my knuckles.

Small OT story. Yesterday a small drama. I cleaned up an Auscam daypack for use as a camera bag; carried on the back. 2 footballs would fill it. Anyway, not being used it yet, and it being cammo pattern, and it being twilight when I was shooting, I had a senior's moment annd left it at the side of a cycleway, in rocks. Near the lake.

3 hrs later I wanted the cleaning kit... and OMG! So I raced back 5 km to where I left it. I found it with a light. Still there.

Now, I used it because it does not look like a camera bag. If it was marked Canon or something and with brighter colours, it would've been noticed and picked up. And I'd be out a coupla lenses etc. Not to mention the pharmacy costs for sedatives... But luckily the cam worked well.

OTOH, maybe if it wasn't cammed -then maybe I would've noticed it before I left for home. LOL.

MarkH

8th of August 2005 (Mon), 04:02

Even after looking at the diagram I am still not sure how the neck strap is supposed to attach to the hand strap. But it doesn't matter because it works fine the way I do it. I attached the E-1 on the right side of the camera and my Op-Tech pro loop neck strap on the left side, then I looked at the right side and tried to work out where to connect my pro loop to - so I just looped it around the top end of the E1 strap. If I had a 2nd camera I could post a pic of it, but hopefully most of you will understand what I did.

Edit: Removed handstrap, reassembled following diagram and have now attached the neckstrap as Canon intended. (things like this happen when you buy the grip 2nd hand and have no instructions when assembling the hand strap)

Carzee

8th of August 2005 (Mon), 04:25

Sounds like you put both ends of the neck strap on the left side (opposite side to the hand strap)... and I liked the sound of that so I'm doing it. My main annoyance (re the straps) happens when in portrait mode. The rhs conn for the neck strap falls across the viewfinder. Now the neck safe is indispensible of course - the main thing is to have a neck strap as failsafe and also as a method of having hands free if needed when lens changing or something - so I think that moving both the neck conns to the low side of the camera (in portrait mode) will be an improvement.

We'll see. It'll mean removing the RRS L plate first...

tim

8th of August 2005 (Mon), 04:38

martook

8th of August 2005 (Mon), 04:50

My hand strap turned up today, and not an instruction in sight. Lucky for the diagram above or i'd have it on in some very strange way!

Is it really practical to attach the neck strap and the hand strap?

The instruction how to attach it is in the battery grip manual... I didn't have it around when I attached the handstrap the first time, which made it a bit hard.

Well, it works fine with both for me. Things get in the way a bit when I'm shooting portraits though.

tim

8th of August 2005 (Mon), 04:51

Battery grip manual... I probably have one of them somewhere. I think I need a filing cabinet for all my camera related manuals!

Carzee

8th of August 2005 (Mon), 04:59

Well I've done it. Both neck strap conns on lhs (with RRS) and hand strap on rhs.

All good so far and I'll leave it like that for a while.. in the portrait position its much better.

Also I find that with only one side having neck strap conns things are much simpler when wrapping in bubble wrap (ie when putting camera away).

Anyone else cheap enough to use bubble wrap?

martook

8th of August 2005 (Mon), 05:11

Anyone else cheap enough to use bubble wrap?

No.

:P

CorruptedPhotographer

8th of August 2005 (Mon), 09:19

My hand strap turned up today, and not an instruction in sight. Lucky for the diagram above or i'd have it on in some very strange way!

Is it really practical to attach the neck strap and the hand strap?

Currently for me its not practical Tim, because the majority of my photography requires either a monopod or a tripod. So it kinda gets messy with the handstrap + neck strap + shoulder strap (of bigger lenses). So its like carrying a bunch of straps lol. I guess the only time (for me) both the straps (had+neck) would be practical is when im walking around (like Candid photography) and just taking pictures and thus use the neckstrap to lighten the load from my hands or do whatever I want when not photographing. Maybe when I go walking around in Chicago in a few weeks ill find a use for the neckstrap. ill update you guys

pcasciola

8th of August 2005 (Mon), 09:36

ITMaster

8th of August 2005 (Mon), 09:41

Saw that you are fairly recent with the post. I am trying to figure out how to get a couple answers to help me determine if I want to purchase a 20D, have the bucks. Can you help me please?
Tom

pcasciola

8th of August 2005 (Mon), 10:22

Saw that you are fairly recent with the post. I am trying to figure out how to get a couple answers to help me determine if I want to purchase a 20D, have the bucks. Can you help me please?
TomYour best bet is to post a new topic in the Canon EOS Digital Camera section.

tim

12th of August 2005 (Fri), 23:49

How do you guys have the hand strap? Done up tight to hold the camera close to your hand, or loose? I've mine holding my hand close to the camera, but I find it uncomfortable, and I can't reach the button (eg ISO) with my 2nd finger any more. So unless i'm doing something wrong I might just stick with the neck strap.

My problem with the next strap (Optech, removable) is the little end straps get in the way when i'm using the camera in portrait orientatio - it flops in front of the viewfinder.

Carzee

13th of August 2005 (Sat), 00:23

Ditto the neckstrap port prob. Which is why I have both loops of the neck strap on the lhs lug. Tight fit, but the L plate's there all the time anyway.

Glove tightness.
If you can't adj aperature in Av mode with the index finger or something... sounds simply too tight. Mine hand grip strap is adj so that after the final buckle there is only about three-quarters of an inch of strap leftover to tuck under the leather where Canon logo is embossed.

CorruptedPhotographer

13th of August 2005 (Sat), 02:38

Tim, at first I had it like you did , nice and snug. Which made sense because I thought the strap should hold my hand to the camera body. But I coulndt reach all the buttons (like ISO and WB), so I loosened it up a bit and found out that its easier and more comfortable a little loose. Loose enough to slide your hand in and when you curve(grip) the body, your knuckles will stick out a little towards the inner part of the strap making it tighter again, but not so tight that you cant reach the buttons. HTH

tim

13th of August 2005 (Sat), 06:07

I've taken it off now, i'll have another go soon.

Why do people find it helpful? I can hold the camera by it's right side fine without dropping it (touch wood). I really don't like neck straps when i'm in portrait mode, and you have to take your hand out of the hand strap for that anyway.

defordphoto

13th of August 2005 (Sat), 06:19

You'll find the proper adjustment. I have the E1 on all three of my cameras and would NOT go anywhere without them. It really reduces the stress on your wrist/arm in long shoots. A must for motorsports photogs like my wife and I.

pcasciola

13th of August 2005 (Sat), 10:34

Same here. I notice a big difference after a couple of hours of shooting. I can hold the camera fine without it too, but after a while with the 300/4L or 70-200/2.8L IS on there, my hand and forearm would get tired. Since I got the hand strap, that never happens.

I rarely take my hand out for portrait shots anymore either, unless I'm tripod or monopod mounted and shooting mainly portraits. Since I got the hand strap, I find I prefer taking portrait shots with my hand on top of the camera because of the added stability the hand strap gives me.

Hogleg 44

13th of August 2005 (Sat), 16:21

I absolutely would not remove my hand-strap on my MkII. With it I don't have to "Make Sure" I have a good grip on my camera. It saves stress on my hand.
And too, the little pocket on the top of the strap where the buckle fits, makes a great place to keep extra memory card/s by using a little velcro with a plastic CF card box. hint..You can get 3 or 4 SD cards in 1 CF card box.

Carzee

13th of August 2005 (Sat), 17:01

hmmm, re the CF cards, I use 1GBs and am paranoid about loading a card with pix on it already. This is because I don't format after downloads. I format after insertion. So my unused ones are in the Left jeans pocket, and the used ones are in the Right. I suppose if you're cards are not identical this "avoiding mixups" dodge wouldn't be needed as much, but I think I need auto-reflex habits-- sometimes my brain 'skips a track' just like a CD. This must be what is termed a 'seniors moment'. (Now that I'm over 45, I can call stuff-ups by the proper term). I am deteriorating for sure. Its plain scientific; its definite-- 20 years ago I only had 'young and stupid' moments.

tim

13th of August 2005 (Sat), 17:53

Thanks guys. Carzee, why not make sure you have good backups, then before an event format all your cards? That way you put a card in and start shooting, and you know you're not going to lose anything.

Mike330R

14th of August 2005 (Sun), 23:10

Can this strap or a different brand be used without the extra grip?
Between the camera and the lens I usually use I'd like to not use a grip due to the weight.

tim

14th of August 2005 (Sun), 23:19

Can this strap or a different brand be used without the extra grip?
Between the camera and the lens I usually use I'd like to not use a grip due to the weight.

Nope - it attaches to the bottom of the grip, there's no place to attach it on the camera.

Carzee

14th of August 2005 (Sun), 23:25

A different brand, Hakoobaa,fits by using a plug fitting the tripod 1/4in hole.
www.go4dc.com

rklepper

15th of August 2005 (Mon), 07:48

There is another thread on the marketplace selling camdapters, which allow the use of the hand strap without using a grip.

pcasciola

15th of August 2005 (Mon), 09:38

Can this strap or a different brand be used without the extra grip?
Between the camera and the lens I usually use I'd like to not use a grip due to the weight.Sure you can. You just need to buy this camdapter which will give you the attachment point:

http://www.camdapter.com/

Or you can use one of these OpTech grip straps instead which also attaches to the tripod mount area instead of the lug on the grip. I like this strap because it's easier to get to all the buttons than with the E1 strap:

http://www.procameragear.com/index.html?prod_gripstrap.html

I'm looking into having these done with the POTN logo soon and added to the POTN support shop, but it's not on OpTech's regular list of customizable items.

Mike330R

15th of August 2005 (Mon), 09:51

Looks like a couple of choices.

The Hakuba is $22.50 and includes the adaptor p[late and strap:
http://go.dc-accessories.com/int0-hakuba-kgp-02.html

Where as the camadpter is double sided is $30 then the cost of the strap. So total of about $60.

Anyone know if the Hakuba adaptor is plastic of metal?

DxHatchback

7th of September 2005 (Wed), 09:44

thanks for the write up

i saved the image for future reference

jtg

8th of September 2005 (Thu), 10:13

Mike:

The Hakuba is plastic. The other drawback for the Hakuba is that it must be moved to access your battery compartment.

Camdapters are machined from 6061 Aircraft Aluminum, they are solid, well made and do NOT block your battery compartment.

Looks like a couple of choices.

The Hakuba is $22.50 and includes the adaptor p[late and strap:
http://go.dc-accessories.com/int0-hakuba-kgp-02.html

Where as the camadpter is double sided is $30 then the cost of the strap. So total of about $60.

Anyone know if the Hakuba adaptor is plastic of metal?

DavidW

15th of September 2005 (Thu), 04:58

My E1 finally turned up this morning - and is now on my 20D / BG-E2 along with the neck strap, as per the Canon instructions shown at the top of the thread. Should this thread be sticky, I wonder?

One thing that may help - there's considerable redundancy in step 2. If you've followed the picture in step 1 exactly, you've only got the leftmost large blue arrow shown in step 2 to complete.

I hope this helps - the E1 is great.

David

mnealtx

21st of September 2005 (Wed), 06:25

Mine arrived today as well.

Something I thought I'd throw out there - if you're using the Optech Pro Loop strap, you can feed the strap of the hand grip through the middle of the knot in the RH side of the neck strap. You still get all the security of the hand strap and the full attachment of the pro strap, too.

pcasciola

21st of September 2005 (Wed), 07:08

If you use the special buckle shown in step 2 of the instructions, you can also attach the Op/Tech Pro Loop strap to the open slot as shown in in step 6. This will make it easier to remove the Pro Loop strap and leave the hand strap connected.

You lost me on the knot part. The pro loop is supposed to be looped through itself, which will loosen when the weight is not on the strap. Did you somehow tie the pro loop strap in a knot?

mnealtx

21st of September 2005 (Wed), 13:17

Sorry I wasn't clear - if you loosen where the end of the pro strap loops around itself (horse folks call that a girth cinch ;) ), you can feed the strap for the E1 through the middle of it. You can leave the Pro strap end loose at that point or snug it down.

That way, no worries about the metal bit sliding. I've had that happen before on climbing gear - not fun!

I've attached a pic - hopefully it illustrates my idea better than my words do!

Carzee

13th of October 2005 (Thu), 18:46

Further down the track I just purchased the Camdapter double-ended Arca style plate with the leather hand strap.

I have a 10D and grip fitted with the E1 Canon strap which is nice...

But now I am experimenting with Jim's nice gear on my recently purchased 20D.

a. I am not getting a BG-E2 grip for my 20D. Apparently the 20D has better lowlight focusing and now higher mAh 511s are available. It doesn't need the extra power from a grip IMHO and I found that once I had the Canon E1 strap on the 10D with batterygrip I kept my hand in the strap for portrait mode shots and maintained a surer grip. Sure the BG looks all big and pro like a 1 Series... but I'm over the extra weight. In short, I am confident I'll be happier to drop the batterygrip weight etc and with the hand straps being so secure, the BG-E2 would simply be redundant for me. As a trivial bonus, the body and lens will sit flat on a desk or whatever when you want to put it down. No falling forwards anymore and it looks right as Mr Monk would say.

b. So I brought Jim's Camadapter with one of his hand straps for my 20D and it doubles as a QR plate for the tripod. The leather strap is a sheer luxury, and the Canon E1 'material' looks a bit weaker by comparison. It was easy to fit, the info sheet is good.

This is the camdapter I got:
http://www.camdapter.com/IMG_0754_5_1_7_1.JPG

Now on the 20D I have the freedom of movement a handstrap on the shutter-button-end allows, plus if I want to change a lense, I use my POTN neckstrap to hook onto the homemade strap on the opposite end of the camera and my neck takes the weight (which is mainly the lens) so I have both hands free.

I'll post a pic soon, a pic's worth a thousand words in this case. Thx Jim

zeker

17th of October 2005 (Mon), 07:50

I tried the Canon hand strap and promptly took it off my camera and bought another Zing Action Strap for my 20D. The Zing strap has connections for a neck strap and can be used on cameras with or without the battery grip. It even has a detachable wrist strap for added security. If after checking out the Zing, anyone still wants the Canon strap, I'll sell you my unused one for $10 (including shipping).

Check it out at:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=113804&is=REG&addedTroughType=search
http://www.freestylephoto.biz/sc_prod.php?pid=3220

4x4rock

17th of October 2005 (Mon), 13:57

Zeker, is it the E-1 strap?

zeker

17th of October 2005 (Mon), 22:10

4X4rock,
Yes it is the E-1

b_rad

7th of November 2005 (Mon), 11:37

Are you still interrested in selling the canon strap?
I tried the Canon hand strap and promptly took it off my camera and bought another Zing Action Strap for my 20D. The Zing strap has connections for a neck strap and can be used on cameras with or without the battery grip. It even has a detachable wrist strap for added security. If after checking out the Zing, anyone still wants the Canon strap, I'll sell you my unused one for $10 (including shipping).

Check it out at:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=113804&is=REG&addedTroughType=search
http://www.freestylephoto.biz/sc_prod.php?pid=3220

CorruptedPhotographer

17th of August 2006 (Thu), 04:12

Once again,thanks for posting this Phillip. I had to disassemble the strap a few days ago and had trouble reattaching it...

InfamousDX

1st of September 2006 (Fri), 18:15

Great post... just got my strap the other day, my grip today (thanks Joan Lovell!)... easy hookup and I can still use my POTN strap. I really like the feel of the strap now!!

Pixel9ine

13th of September 2006 (Wed), 13:07

Jon

13th of September 2006 (Wed), 15:25

Excellent thread.. especially given that the E1 hand strap does not come with any instructions...

Over a year and a half after it was initially posted, this thread is still helping people, myself included! My thanks to the OP.As has no doubt been mentioned at least once before in the intervening time, the directions come with the grip, since you need it to have the extra eyelet.

roundsquare1

30th of September 2006 (Sat), 15:28

dude, thanks so much for posting this. I got one of these hand grips and have been trying to figure out how to attach it.

rickydiver

12th of October 2006 (Thu), 17:23

Philip so glad you posted this up, I done the usual man thing and had a go without instructions 30mins later and really pist of I had a look on here for help 5 mins later job done :) Thanks mate!
Ricky

EOS mE

12th of October 2006 (Thu), 18:28

great post.. love my strap.. thanks OP for hooking it up!!

TXClark

31st of October 2006 (Tue), 05:55

thanks for this thread :cool:

Big WIll

1st of November 2006 (Wed), 11:16

Trust google to find a topic in my most visited forum! :)

Handy images! :) BUMP FOR USEFULNESS

EOS mE

1st of November 2006 (Wed), 12:58

mods should totally make this into a sticky.. it's sooo helpful!

l bo

6th of February 2007 (Tue), 14:30

I read this thread well before I got my strap.

I received the strap today and again this thread delivers, easy to attatch with the help of post #1.

Thanks again.

Richard_Miami

10th of February 2007 (Sat), 16:44

Add another thank you to PSASCIOLA for posting this. Even though I have the grip.. I would never have thought to look at the grip instructions for the strap threading technique. Five minutes with this diagram and viola! Both the neck and hand strap are on my camera. THANKS

::John::

10th of February 2007 (Sat), 23:11

Cool - my hand strap was ordered today and should arrive in the next 2 days - now I am armed to install it AND keep my POTN strap on.

Indecent Exposure

11th of February 2007 (Sun), 02:01

::John::

11th of February 2007 (Sun), 02:22

Thanks for that, Dekka. I was wondering about that.

Pinto

11th of February 2007 (Sun), 15:20

For those new to the E1, I'd recommend trying it looser than you'd probably first try. You might find that looser you have easy access to all buttons activated by your first finger (wheel, for instance) than you do when the strap is tighter. Also, a little loose, you still have the security that the strap is intended to provide in the first place.

I think that is a common mistake new users make. They feel like the strap should snug the hand to the camera body, and then are confused when they can't reach controls.
It takes a bit of trial and error, but when you find the right adjustment point, you can you can reach everything and still control and support the body with the strap.

widowmaker

12th of February 2007 (Mon), 00:35

I got mine from BH just a couple of days ago, and thanks to the mounting description provided on this site, I got it attached in just a few minutes. Love mine! (fitted on the 30D body).

::John::

12th of February 2007 (Mon), 04:41

Thanks for the hints and tips - my supplier tells me mine should be here in the morning (9:40pm at the moment) so it's not far away.

Big WIll

12th of February 2007 (Mon), 13:57

Anyone seen Nikons version of the E1 strap?

http://www.camera-shop.info/ebay/nkonah4/ah411.jpg
http://www.camera-shop.info/ebay/nkonah4/ah411.jpg

Looks so much more secure!
And for Canon users - http://www.missnumerique.com/images/produits/large/nikon_handstrap_ah4_a.jpg Just so we are all happy!

http://www.missnumerique.com/images/produits/large/nikon_handstrap_ah4_a.jpg

l bo

12th of February 2007 (Mon), 19:57

I think that is a common mistake new users make. They feel like the strap should snug the hand to the camera body, and then are confused when they can't reach controls.
It takes a bit of trial and error, but when you find the right adjustment point, you can you can reach everything and still control and support the body with the strap.

That's good advice. I am so anal retentive though I kept adjusting the straps so that they are equal length and fitted it to access all the buttons.

Anyone seen Nikons version of the E1 strap?

http://www.camera-shop.info/ebay/nkonah4/ah411.jpg
http://www.camera-shop.info/ebay/nkonah4/ah411.jpg

Looks so much more secure!
And for Canon users - http://www.missnumerique.com/images/produits/large/nikon_handstrap_ah4_a.jpg Just so we are all happy!

http://www.missnumerique.com/images/produits/large/nikon_handstrap_ah4_a.jpg

That looks pretty bad ass. One of the main features I like with the E1 is sliding it on and off, quick access. It doesn't look like that one is easy so much in the same fashon.

Pinto

12th of February 2007 (Mon), 21:07

One of the main features I like with the E1 is sliding it on and off, quick access. It doesn't look like that one is easy so much in the same fashon.

I agree. While it does look secure, the Nikon version looks way too restrictive. Perhaps it is easier in use, but it looks like you couldn't get your hand out of this strap without a major undertaking.

maxxed

8th of March 2007 (Thu), 04:17

too domo-arigato-mr.roboto for my liking ;)

Big WIll

9th of March 2007 (Fri), 05:50

I agree. While it does look secure, the Nikon version looks way too restrictive. Perhaps it is easier in use, but it looks like you couldn't get your hand out of this strap without a major undertaking.

Indeed, however it could mean you can just leave the camera strapped to your hand, when on a photo shoot, may be 'handy'! However i must agree that the E1 is easy to use and quick to remove your hand from!

zeker

12th of March 2007 (Mon), 07:25

The Zing Action Strap is a good compromise. It has connections for a neck strap and can be used on cameras with or without the battery grip. It also has a detachable wrist strap for added security. I have one for all three of my camera bodies.

Check it out at:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=113804&is=REG&addedTroughType=search)
http://www.freestylephoto.biz/sc_prod.php?pid=3220

G35Driver

19th of March 2007 (Mon), 21:37

I finally got my strap easy mounting, here are some pictures, hopefully i did it right.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b274/luis452/DSC02155Medium.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b274/luis452/DSC02156Medium.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b274/luis452/DSC02157Medium.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b274/luis452/DSC02158Medium.jpg

^^besides my canon clip being upside down.

boink

19th of March 2007 (Mon), 22:53

reading this thread just gave me the idea to mod my kalt (cheap generic version that works on any camera via the tripod mount, so you don't need the battery grip) strap a bit.

http://kniob.net/30D-3.jpg

worked out well!

clengster_77

20th of April 2007 (Fri), 05:23

thanks for this thread! why do canon sell products without throwing in a manual :)

Cadwell

20th of April 2007 (Fri), 05:34

thanks for this thread! why do canon sell products without throwing in a manual :)

They don't. Instructions for fitting the E1 strap are included in the Camera or Battery grip manual as appropriate.

RichNY

22nd of June 2007 (Fri), 21:44

Just got E1s for my IIN and 30D today. This is the Most Useful Post on POTN! (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=410714&postcount=1)

USM

23rd of June 2007 (Sat), 06:50

I got the E1 for my Mark III a few days after the body showed up. I absolutely love it- I have occasional grip strength issues so this is a big help with the heavy body/lens/flash combination.

dahl

27th of August 2007 (Mon), 21:13

I know this thread is old, but I still want to thank you for adding the instructions here.
I just got the E1 and had no idea how to attach it.

TMR Design

27th of August 2007 (Mon), 21:21

I've been checking B&H regularly and it seems they are always out of stock on the E-1.

PacAce

27th of August 2007 (Mon), 22:36

I've been checking B&H regularly and it seems they are always out of stock on the E-1.

Did you click on the link to notify you when some come in again? That's what I did for my latest one. Since they were so hard to get, I ordered one long before I really needed it for a new camera I knew I was going to get. :)

dahl

28th of August 2007 (Tue), 00:37

Buy it though Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-STRAPE1-E1-Hand-strap/dp/B0000C4G79/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-5634268-6968058?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1188279309&sr=8-1

While they don't carry it themselves, there are several vendors do use Amazon to sell it.
I got mine from Adorama today.

First thoughts, it still doesn't feel 100% perfect. Maybe my hands are too large for the XT?

Big WIll

28th of August 2007 (Tue), 14:39

or eBay

H.B.

26th of October 2007 (Fri), 06:39

Cool, thanks for the diag Pcasciola, I would still be messing around without doubt if it wasnt for them. I got my E1 tonight. I havent been out shooting with it yet but I already feel like I'm going to love it. And another thanks for the adding the neck strap extra too. I thought I was going to have to go without that.

Cheers........Mick.

Indecent Exposure

26th of October 2007 (Fri), 17:03

Anyone seen Nikons version of the E1 strap?
Now you can shoot some pics and go bowling without re-accessorizing.

b.d.bop

5th of February 2008 (Tue), 18:59

Here's some shots of the setup which may be of additional help - thanks for the guidance, pcasciola. Note the EP-EX15 eyepiece extender.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y28/b_d_bop/HeadNeckStrap_a.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y28/b_d_bop/HeadNeckStrap_b.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y28/b_d_bop/HeadNeckStrap_f.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y28/b_d_bop/HeadNeckStrap_g.jpg

TheHoff

5th of February 2008 (Tue), 19:08

I forget where I first saw it but the idea to put both ends of the shoulder strap on the other side of the camera, opposite the grip, was brilliant.

nutsnbolts

5th of February 2008 (Tue), 22:26

I forget where I first saw it but the idea to put both ends of the shoulder strap on the other side of the camera, opposite the grip, was brilliant.

How is this achieved?

TheHoff

5th of February 2008 (Tue), 22:59

I use the metal rings that came with the Domke shoulder strap to attach both loops to the left side of the camera. The photo I saw of someone else doing it also used some sort of metal ring he bought at a hardware store. It is wearing off the paint of the strap holder but that is what it is there for. I only carry it on my shoulder anyway and the 5d/grip hangs fine.

nutsnbolts

5th of February 2008 (Tue), 23:06

TheHoff

5th of February 2008 (Tue), 23:18

IF I can get some P&S love

http://i27.tinypic.com/wwm1jn.jpg

http://i32.tinypic.com/29c87me.jpg

5D + Grip
Domke Gripper Strap
Canon E1 Handgrip

(wow I would've been embarassed if it was set on the Green Rectangle and I didn't notice)

nutsnbolts

5th of February 2008 (Tue), 23:25

Awesome, my only concern is the wear on the metal/black metal loop on the camera. Whenever I carry two bodies I wished I can do this. On the other hand, check out this .... (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=431153&highlight=strap)

danpass

5th of February 2008 (Tue), 23:31

First thoughts, it still doesn't feel 100% perfect. Maybe my hands are too large for the XT?

Your post is from the way-back machine but yes, the Rebel series have small handgrip areas.

The xxD series can be 'palmed' making it easy to use the handstrap but the Rebel series have to be held with the fingertips making it difficult to use the handstrap.

.

G35Driver

6th of February 2008 (Wed), 00:19

TheHoff

6th of February 2008 (Wed), 08:49

how do you like the neck strap setup that way?

It works for me but it might not suit someone who typically hangs the camera around their neck. With the strap like this it stays out of the way a lot more since it is attached to only one side. And the Domke strap isn't as bulky or stiff (or obvious) as the OEM Canon.

Salman1

7th of February 2008 (Thu), 22:56

ben_r_

8th of February 2008 (Fri), 00:08

I was really thinking about getting the hand strap but a photographer friends said "how are you going to change your lens with your hand stuck in the strap?" He mentioned how hanging the camera from your neck allows you to (1) keep the body facing down to change the lens and prevent anything from falling IN the open body and (2), you can leave one hand loose to change the lens and not have to support the body...

Thats why so many do both the neck strap AND the hand strap. Im just waiting for my Op/Tech neck strap to come and Ill have both on there. That way you get the best of both worlds!

G35Driver

8th of February 2008 (Fri), 00:28

Thats why so many do both the neck strap AND the hand strap. Im just waiting for my Op/Tech neck strap to come and Ill have both on there. That way you get the best of both worlds!
I have the neck strap and the hand strap and I love them both, just like you said the best of both worlds

Woolburr

8th of February 2008 (Fri), 00:57

How is this achieved?

Like this....
http://www.pbase.com/woolburr/image/60883119.jpg

I've used this setup for years with no problems at all...

neil_g

8th of February 2008 (Fri), 04:23

is there a version which doesnt need a grip?

phdeez

23rd of February 2008 (Sat), 15:50

Thanks Phillip!! This came in handy when I got my E1 and was wondering why there were 2 different locking mechanisms on it... But the metal one is for the neck strap... NICE!

HOWEVER... after seeing the most recent posts... I like the idea of the neck strap on one side and the hand strap on the other... I'll have to play around with that!

Thanks guys!

junji98

25th of February 2008 (Mon), 21:42

has anyone purchased the E1 from HK supplies (ebay)? they have it really cheap, but am wondering if this is some sort of knock off (though the ad did say genuine...or genuin!).

DanteCaspian

11th of March 2008 (Tue), 09:26

The Zing strap has connections for a neck strap and can be used on cameras with or without the battery grip. It even has a detachable wrist strap for added security.
Check it out at:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=113804&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

Can anyone tell me if the Zing hand strap blocks the battery cover?
I don't have a power pack ,nor do I plan of one, so I either fabricate an aluminum adepter bracket myself, and by a E1 or similar hand grip, or go for the Zing.

thanks!

Wyn

20th of June 2008 (Fri), 16:12

love this thread, finally can installed both neck and hand straps together, thanks a lot!

CajunGal

20th of June 2008 (Fri), 17:17

love this thread, finally can installed both neck and hand straps together, thanks a lot!
Me too! I had no idea how use both of them together... thanks! :)

DigitalSpecialist

20th of June 2008 (Fri), 17:51

I too have the strap, but I really changed the rules for attaching mine! I have the bottom half of my strap permanently attached to my grip which I believe is the BG-E4 for the 5D. I threaded my strap through and sewed it using black thread. Then I pretty much followed Canons directions the rest of the way.

thatkatmat

4th of August 2008 (Mon), 00:44

ben_r_

4th of August 2008 (Mon), 08:41

I've always just threaded both the neck strap and the wrist strap through the same top loop. I use a butter knife and just keep squishing it in until it comes through..Guess I never have seen those directions on page 1:)
WOW! Thats a tight fit! I wouldnt have thought that was even possible!

JWright

4th of August 2008 (Mon), 14:21

ben_r_

4th of August 2008 (Mon), 15:55

I found the E-1 too confining for my style of photography so I didn't have it on the camera for very long. I also found the slot in the little metal clip where the neck strap threaded through caused the end of the neck strap to fray. Not a good situation...
Yea thats def one thing that has always worried me when using that little metal piece the E1 hand strap comes with. It seems to thin and sharp to hold all the weight. Especially with the Op/Tech Por Loop Strap loops.

dfatty

6th of August 2008 (Wed), 11:45

I've always just threaded both the neck strap and the wrist strap through the same top loop. I use a butter knife and just keep squishing it in until it comes through..Guess I never have seen those directions on page 1:)

lol, that's exactly what i did with an optech neck strap and camdapter wrist strap. :lol: it's working fine so far!

ben_r_

7th of August 2008 (Thu), 09:23

Huh.... I might have to try that...

dfatty

7th of August 2008 (Thu), 22:44

Here's a pic of both straps attached (if I attached the pic correctly). It's actually not that bad, the wide wrist strap (on the left) isn't bunched up at all and the neck strap (on the right) fits neatly next to it. If I remember correctly I attached the wrist strap first, then I squeezed in the neck strap with a small screwdriver.

295096

mantra

28th of August 2008 (Thu), 06:03

does it work with 350d ,30d ?

mattograph

28th of August 2008 (Thu), 09:39

does it work with 350d ,30d ?

It works with the 30D. I would bet it would be fine on the 350D as well.

SolidxSnake

28th of August 2008 (Thu), 11:04

It works with ANY Canon camera with a grip/booster. This includes the 1 series (which have it built in). If you'll notice, all of Canon's grips have an eyelet on the bottom of the grip to accommodate the E-1.

mantra

28th of August 2008 (Thu), 12:57

SolidxSnake

28th of August 2008 (Thu), 13:02

i have not a battery grip

Well then it's not designed to work.

dfatty

28th of August 2008 (Thu), 13:29

If you don't have a battery grip you can either get a strap that has it's own piece that mounts to the tripod thread and provides a place to connect the hand strap at the bottom (like the Opteka grip), or you could get something like the camdapter plate, which provides a mounting point on the bottom, then you can use any strap that you want.

piku

7th of September 2008 (Sun), 12:09

Blah, can't decide. So I recently purchased the Phottix BP-40D grip for my 30D. Before that, I have been using my Hakuba hand strap. I tried putting it on the Phottix grip but the plate of the Hakuba has a little nub that won't work w/ the grip.

So, I took of the plate out and tried installing it like the E-1. I looped my Optech classic strap (http://optechusa.com/product/detail/?PRODUCT_ID=45&PRODUCT_SUB_ID=&CATEGORY_ID=4) like can be seen on the attached photo (sorry its via iphone cam lol). I'm scared of it not having enough umph as its made of plastic vs. the E-1's metal plate (http://i36.tinypic.com/5d4ept.jpg).

Anyways, this thread has given me some ideas:

1) Get some a metal ring and put it on the RHS of the body and have the neck strap go through it. That way, I can have the hand strap on there too.

2) Get the Pro-loop connector (#4 @ http://www.justoptech.com/details_products.aspx?id=061008113600919) to swap out the RHS?

But yah, thought I'd share and if there are anyone out there with almost the same straps (hakuba or generic E-1 strap w/o extra metal 3-slotted plate, and 3/8 neck strap connector), please do let me know.

TIA

PS. I will try this way as I think its the most secure but might get tough to get both 3/8 through that slot, http://i37.tinypic.com/xgje9x.jpg