Canon G10 photo samples

[karl7]

Here are the first Canon G10 photo samples from Photokina2008:Self-adulatory link removed

[amoergosum]

Here are the first Canon G10 photo samples from Photokina2008:


now that's what I call noise!...:cool:

[dtufino]

Wow, those images are horrible.... hopefully it was just a messed camera.... and not all of the g10's shoot that way......

Glad i picked up the Lumix LX3! But i love my Canon 40D though!

[badgertime]

please tell me these samples are a joke!!!! I have been hanging back for so long because of the G10, if these images are representetive I shall be so disapointed :evil:

[dtufino]

i seen these samples on the canon website:

http://www.canon-europe.com/Images/PowerShot_G10_1_tcm13-549352.JPG

http://www.canon-europe.com/Images/PowerShot_G10_2_tcm13-549353.JPG

these are much better

[Woz!]

...at ISO 80 I'd hope they would be!

[Jethro790]

WTF?? Were those pics taken with a cell phone camera? I am going to be sorry if I waited for this camera and the G9 is actually better.

[Laszlo]

I just can picture some suit sitting in the product meeting yelling "I don't care...I said more megapixels !!!"

[prcrstn8]

i seen these samples on the canon website:

http://www.canon-europe.com/Images/PowerShot_G10_1_tcm13-549352.JPG

http://www.canon-europe.com/Images/PowerShot_G10_2_tcm13-549353.JPG

these are much better

The salmon salad looks yummy. The lizard, not.

[Naturalworldphotographer]

The tiny sensor is screaming, "NO TOO MANY PIXELS!!!" D:

I can't wait until the G11, with it's 21 mega pixel sensor, with "incredible resolving power" and unusably grainy iso 200 shots. D:

lols

[BigBlueDodge]

Honestly, what were you guys expecting? You cram that many pixels onto that small of a chip, and yes noise performance will suffer. Granted, high iso images will be usable when printed at 4x6 size where you really only need a 1200 x 1800 pixel image (at 300 DPI). Downsizing 15MP to 2.1MP will effectively clean up alot of the noise, and thus make the resulting image acceptible when printed. And the target buyer for a P&S generally only prints at 4x6.

It's getting to the point where P&S will only become usable outdoors is bright lights. Yes ISO 80 looks good, but there are few scenarios where i can actually shoot in ISO 80 unless I'm outdoors.

[Jim G]

I dunno... ISO 1600 looks about as good as I could expect from a non-SLR.

[BigBlueDodge]

...at ISO 80 I'd hope they would be!

And it appears they were taken under studio lighting as well. That's cheatin

[Tumak]

Why can't Canon get the message. We want to be able to use the higher ISO's in low light, not outdoors so much. Also, it is not like we want to be able 8X10's out of them, just throw us a bone, maybe decent 5X7's at 800 indoors would be nice. Looking at these in film days we would have said be careful, don't let a grain fall off and break your foot....

[Sfordphoto]

no G10 for me

[Sleepyd]

Hang on here, they weren't allowing images to be taken away from Photokina because the G10s on show were not of production specification. We've no idea what's been done to these images or what processing they've been through.

I'd suggest waiting until some *proper* tests are done before drawing a conclusion - everytime a new camera is released with greater resolution there's a heap of bad press about image quality then it's often discovered that these claims are false.

[PlayersZ28]

... at least the G9's should get a lot cheaper now that the G10 is out. :)

[loony33]

Thank you for the link.

Those high ISO photos don't look too bad IMHO.
Remember you are seeing them at 100%.
Zoom out to fill the screen and the noise would appear very acceptable. We still need more samples to compare. So those of you who got it in their hands, please post high ISO shots with adequate and inadequate light.

[Tumak]

I'd suggest waiting until some *proper* tests are done before drawing a conclusion - everytime a new camera is released with greater resolution there's a heap of bad press about image quality then it's often discovered that these claims are false.

I know I will. I do not have a choice for now, as there is no way to evaluate the G10 at this moment. I am pretty much happy enough with what I do know about it to buy it except the most important thing to me. I tend to take a lot of family photos indoors or at weddings. I do not use flash at weddings, as I do not want to interfer with the wedding photographer. I tend to take pictures that the wedding photographer does not take, such as guests, and other things. Flash just is not appropriate or useful for such candid shots, and a 30D stands out like a sore thumb. My D60 had enough megapixels for me at 6MP. A few more probably didn't hurt, but why do we need 15mp for a point & shoot camera?

[RafaPolit]

I think that any picture, if analyzed pixel by pixel or at 200% zoom, will show grainy results. I have used those sample images and made a small noise reduction with NeatImage and the ISO1600 picture reduced at 50% (usable size for any means) looks great, without any significant noise. Made into a 1024 image or printed in a 5x7 would look terrific!

I, for one, am very pleased with the High ISO performance of those pictures listed in the first link. I would go with a G10 as a great option right now!

Rafa.

[DDWD10]

Hmm ISO 1600 doesn't look half bad - much much better than my 7MP SD1000 at ISO 1600

[Tumak]

I think that any picture, if analyzed pixel by pixel or at 200% zoom, will show grainy results. I have used those sample images and made a small noise reduction with NeatImage and the ISO1600 picture reduced at 50% (usable size for any means) looks great, without any significant noise. Made into a 1024 image or printed in a 5x7 would look terrific!

I, for one, am very pleased with the High ISO performance of those pictures listed in the first link. I would go with a G10 as a great option right now!

Rafa.

Ah, imformation with substance.
Thank you.

[DDWD10]

These samples really look much better than the G9 - I can't wait for a full dpreview.com test!

[Jman13]

Why can't Canon get the message. We want to be able to use the higher ISO's in low light, not outdoors so much. Also, it is not like we want to be able 8X10's out of them, just throw us a bone, maybe decent 5X7's at 800 indoors would be nice. Looking at these in film days we would have said be careful, don't let a grain fall off and break your foot....

The G9 and G10 can make decent 5x7s at 800. Here are two shots from my G9 at ISO 800. It's not like a DSLR, but it's ok for normal sized prints.

http://www.jordansteele.com/forumlinks/stargell.jpg

http://www.jordansteele.com/forumlinks/molly_wedding.jpg

[Jannie]

Interesting, I was at my store yesterday looking at one of the new G10's. My sales guy had taken a photo of one of the other people there, actually a very nice photo, and printed it up right there in the store, he said without post processing. Shot at low ISO it looked really great in a print about 20" on the long side.

I asked him about higher ISO's and he said it appeared so far to be about the same IQ as the G9.

The camera is very good looking physically, I started to get enthused, and I actually liked the viewfinder which supprised me. But I didn't get one based upon the ISO noise issue.

If it's a travel camera it needs to be able to shoot indoors clean at at least 400-600 ISO in my estimation with the 2.8 lens when wide angle. It just seems to be a necessity. I can shoot great right now with the G9 at 80 and 100 and occasionally 200 but it's not thrilling there.

But gosh, it's just a very exciting camera to look at and hold, as in really, really neat.

[Tumak]

Jman13
Very nice shots. Hope the G10 does as well at almost 15mp. However, there is more available light than I have in mind. I rarely print larger than 5x7 anyway, but I mostly use these pictures to make slide shows for my grandkids birthdays, which means much larger size than 5X7. As it is a big issue for many people, I do not know why Canon is hiding behind ISO 80. If is is good, show us, or put cameras in the hands of people who due credible reviews. I know, patience.

[Tumak]

If it's a travel camera it needs to be able to shoot indoors clean at at least 400-600 ISO in my estimation with the 2.8 lens when wide angle. It just seems to be a necessity. I can shoot great right now with the G9 at 80 and 100 and occasionally 200 but it's not thrilling there.

But gosh, it's just a very exciting camera to look at and hold, as in really, really neat.

This is what I am saying. I don't need perfection, just improvement along these lines. I will say that physically, from what I can see and read, I am in love with it. Very retro looking and also I hate going through menus looking for settings I would use often. On my SD800, there is not much reason to do this, but on a G10, that would be a lot of futzing around without the dials, I would think.

[Jannie]

I suppose I cannot know what the camera will do until you can be able to download RAW files in Lightroom2 or Photoshop.

Looking at JPEG's here, really cannot do any camera justice when we're sitting here trying to decide whether or not to buy the camera based a lot on how well it handles higher ISO's and comparing those photos to our current G9 photos processed in RAW format. It's like saying my car runs really well as long as I leave the shift lever in Low.

[Tumak]

After seeing this, I am planning on getting one in a couple of months. By that time, I should know for sure.

http://edmondterakopian.blogspot.com/2008/09/hands-on-with-5d-mkii-g10-24mm-f14l.html