Colorvision Spyder 2

[Spatch]

I took the plunge and bought a Spyder 2 to calibrate my monitors. After quite a lot of messing around with my monitor set-up (I have two monitors LCD and CRT) I managed to generate a profile for both.

Moving off topic for a second - I found it awkward to calibrate two monitors because you cannot move the Spyder calibration window from one monitor to the other. The meant that I had to swap the monitors around within the graphics card setup to force the Spyder software to open on the second monitor. I could not find a way to tell the Spyder software which monitor I wanted to calibrate.

Back on topic. The profiles have been loaded into the colour management settings on the display driver software and the profiles can be seen on the 'Profile Chooser' (part of the Spyder software package). When the computer is booting up, I get the massages that the profiles for both monitors have been loaded successfully and the screens change, however, almost immediately the screens change back again - as if the profile was loaded and then unloaded again. I have checked and the profiles are still supposedly loaded correctly. If I go to the Profile Chooser again I can force the profile by selecting it and this time it will stay active - until I reboot.

Anyone got any ideas? It looks as if there may be a conflict but I cannot see it, and Adobe Gamma is switched off.

Thanks

[HKFEVER]

Try to check the monitor profile in the control panel or the video card's properties. See whether it's changed to your new profile.

[CyberDyneSystems]

With the spyder software,. you can check a box (I don't have it in front of me,. so I can't recall what it is) to either use the new manages profile ,.. or not..

Is there a chance you have the wrong box checked?

[Spatch]

Thanks for the responses

HK, the profile is correct for display in control panel.

CDS, where is this box, I cannot find the checkbox anywhere on the Spyder software I have.

Cheers,

[HKFEVER]

Thanks for the responses

HK, the profile is correct for display in control panel.

CDS, where is this box, I cannot find the checkbox anywhere on the Spyder software I have.

Cheers,

I have the Spyder2 run in 5 different computer and 2 Mac. All runs fine. But I remember I have the same problem in one PC.

The program is called ProfileChooser in PC.

If it is not working try to uninstall and reinstall it again.

[Spatch]

HK,

Are you saying re-intall the complete Spyder software or were you able to just re-install the profile chooser?

[HKFEVER]

HK,

Are you saying re-intall the complete Spyder software or were you able to just re-install the profile chooser?

Keep the created profiles and reinstall every program that come with Spyder2. Installation only take less than 10 mins.

See how is this work and post the result in this thread. At the mean time I will try the same process in my lab top and let you know.

[Jesper]

Moving off topic for a second - I found it awkward to calibrate two monitors because you cannot move the Spyder calibration window from one monitor to the other. The meant that I had to swap the monitors around within the graphics card setup to force the Spyder software to open on the second monitor. I could not find a way to tell the Spyder software which monitor I wanted to calibrate.
Are you using a PC with Windows? As far as I know, you can only calibrate and profile one monitor (the primary monitor) in Windows. Windows doesn't support colour management on more than one monitor. (I don't have two monitors myself, but this is what I've read from experiences by others).

[Spatch]

Thanks chaps,

HK, I will try this. The profiles are saved anyway, so it should not be a problem, I just did not want to cock the profiles up considering the problems I had with the dual monitor set up. I will let you know.

Jesper, interesting point about Windows not supporting colour management on two monitors. However, since I am using a dual monitor graphics card (the software of which will support different colour profiles for each monitor) - I am not sure how important the Windows colour management restriction is. I would have thought that the graphics card software would have taken precedence. Another point is that I can manually reset the colour profile on the Profile Chooser and it then stays set until I reboot.

Just a thought - do you still need the Spyder software running in the Windows Startup menu? The reason I ask is that the profiles are already set in the graphics card colour management, and this alone should load the profiles for the monitors. I am just wondering if the Spyder software and the graphics card software are causing a conflict.

I will give it a go later, however, it is my birthday today and me and the wife are just off out.

Cheers,

[HKFEVER]

Thanks chaps,

Just a thought - do you still need the Spyder software running in the Windows Startup menu? The reason I ask is that the profiles are already set in the graphics card colour management, and this alone should load the profiles for the monitors. I am just wondering if the Spyder software and the graphics card software are causing a conflict.
Cheers,

You need to run ColorVision Startup program each time the computer boot up.
Also Spyder software shouldn't have problems with the graphic card, because it is not trying to modify your graphite card's driver.

The other way around is find the default videoo profile, save it as other profile name and rename the correct profile file to the default video file name.

[Wendy Lilygreen]

Happy Birthday. Now if you'd like to come up to Wales and do my monitor etc......

[Spatch]

Top b'day thanks, just back from Bodiam Castle - lovely day although a bit chilly. Errr, have just tried to remove Color Vision program from start menu and the profile didn't load up. It looks as if the graphics card s/w does not load the profile properly. Seems odd to me as I would have thought this would have worked, i.e the profile is set on the graphics card s/w so I do not see why it needs the Color Vision program. Anyway, will try the re-installation of the Spyder s/w to see if this fixes it.

Bloody computers!!!!

Mark.

[Spatch]

Tried re-installing Spyder software and it has made no difference. I am not sure of what to do now. At least I can manually set it. Perhaps Jesper was right about Windows only supporting one colour profile - although I find this hard to believe as the graphics card s/w supports it, and I can manually force the profile and it stays set.

[F1_Fan]

(I don't have two monitors myself, but this is what I've read from experiences by others).

A very incorrect fact that's getting passed around most photo forums I read.

You need a video card that supports two profiles and two LUTs. For example, most ATi Radeon dual-head cards do. Windows sees this card as two cards because of how ATi implements the dual-monitor function. With recent Catalyst drivers (actually this has worked since last year) Windows can easily assign profiles to each monitor.

I have the Spyder2 Pro and a ATi Radeon 9500 Pro. Calibration is easy... S2P detects each monitor and asks which one I want to profile.

I imagine that ATi cards aren't the only ones that work this way but they're the only ones I use.

[F1_Fan]

I took the plunge and bought a Spyder 2 to calibrate my monitors. After quite a lot of messing around with my monitor set-up (I have two monitors LCD and CRT) I managed to generate a profile for both.

Moving off topic for a second - I found it awkward to calibrate two monitors because you cannot move the Spyder calibration window from one monitor to the other.

Early in the calibration process you are asked which monitor you want to profile, the Spyder2 window then jumps to that monitor.

You do have Spyder2 Pro, right? Spyder2 (non-Pro) doesn't support multi-monitor calibration.

[Spatch]

F1,

A-ha, perhaps that is why it was so difficult to profile both monitors, I do not have the pro version. What I did in the end was to clone the displays (both monitors display identical screens). I could then attach the Spyder to the monitor I wanted to profile. Curiously though, the profile chooser appears to supports two monitors, as does the Colorvision program that runs in Startup as it says that the correct profiles are loaded (and the profile is different for each monitor).

I don't suppose you have any additional ideas (to those above) on the problem I am having with the profile not staying loaded up at start up?? I have an Nvidia, dual monitor, card and it does support two different colour profiles.

Thanks,