Does this sound strange - selling overseas with bank draft

[antaine]

I have put my 300D for sale on an Irish website and got the following person who wants to buy it from me (says he's in Wales)



Concerning payment I have a friend who is ready to
issue you a Banker's draft. For convinient and easy shipping, I have a liable
shipping agent who'd be responsible for the shipping as soon as you receive
payment for the camera. I will therefore need the following information of
yours to forward to my friend before he sends the draft.
NAME IN FULL........
ADDRESS IN FULL
COUNTRY..........
ZIPCODE........
CELL/OFFICE/HOME PHONE NUMBER.......

does this sound legitimate to you?

Can he cancel a bank draft after I lodge it?

[Ikinaa]

hmmm ... makes me think of this -> http://home.rica.net/alphae/419coal/

If they tell you they will send you more money than requested and that you give the difference to the shipment guy, stay away...

[pierrot]

These are normally needed data. No postal money draft possible without.

[scottbergerphoto]

There is alot of fraud going on with bank drafts due to laws regulating how fast the bank must allow you to access funds. It creates a float during which a bank note which is fraudulent can be drawn against only to have the funds later debited from your account. I would not ship any item until I was certain that the note had cleared the issuing bank.
Scott

[antaine]

thanks for all your replies. I rang my bank and they said it could take up to 2 weeks to clear the issuing bank. Might stay clear of these offers, and just sell locally


thanks for your replies
A.

[scottbergerphoto]

thanks for all your replies. I rang my bank and they said it could take up to 2 weeks to clear the issuing bank. Might stay clear of these offers, and just sell locally


thanks for your replies
A.
It can happen locally as well with a bank note. Stick with things that are as good as cash.
Scott

[robertwgross]

It can happen locally as well with a bank note. Stick with things that are as good as cash.

I don't know about you, but I quit holding out for gold nuggets.

---Bob Gross---

[DeeplyDigital]

That sounds like the standard fraud mails you get when advertising with Craig's List (available for Ireland, also).
Stay well clear, some internet advertising sites such as Craig's List warn against emails like the one you got.

You might be better off trying to sell your camera with www.buyandsell.ie, advertising is free over the internet. It might take a while to find a buyer, but at least you end up having cash in hand.
The local (Dublin) camera shops are a total rip off when it come to trading in, so the buy and sell may be the place for you.

Good luck,
Julia

[lopix]

having been ripped off myself, all I can say is do your homework and if it seemes fishy, it is

[foxbat]

No need to run away at this stage. Point out to the buyer the condition of clearance with the issuing bank. If he does a runner at this point then report him to your local fraud squad, if not then you have a sale don't you?

Having said all that, it sounds dodgy to me.

[pierrot]

Funny to see people from the USA, Eire, UK, France, Canada and Luxemburg having the same attitude. ;)
I'm wondering : where does the dangerous zone of "overseas" begin, for each of us? :D

[S230]

I have a friend that got the same email or request as you did. Do not fall into the trap.
I suggest use PAYPAL. It may cost a little more but it's well worth it.

[scottbergerphoto]

I don't know about you, but I quit holding out for gold nuggets.

---Bob Gross---
Well Bob, the are such things as USPS Money Orders, or AMEX Money Orders. ;)

[davidwegs]

CON.

[Wazza]

From working myself in a bank, I know, and see all the crazy fraudulent activities happening all the time.

All I can say, is anything which gives you that gut feeling something isn't right.. Or the fact that you're questioning it, is proof you shouldn't do it. If you could cash the money immediately at a corresponding bank, well can't be too much of a problem there. But it's more of those personal cheques, sending them overseas, and can then take weeks to dishonour; after you've managed to spend all the money. Most countries, drafts cost as much as Telegraphic Transfers now, if they're legitimate. Why not request that? Ask your SWIFT code from your bank, and give them those details instead.

[dirty]

I just bought stuff from the States...
I got the money shipped in the form of a US Money Order...
My bank took 3 weeks to clear it (I think they did that just to screw me and make interest on it while I didnt have it)... but came through in the end. But the bankers draft, havnt heard of that personally.

I dont know, just be smart about it. I got the guys home # and phoned him up. 2 minutes on the phone gave me a lot more confidence than 15 emails back and forth.

[KartGirlsMom]

This is a huge fraud going around in the karting world right now. There are several people who have lost several thousand dollars to this scheme.

[dphotomania]

Email him and tell him that you will only deliver the good when the check clears. Which will take 1 week, and he will not reply to you. This is a Scam, they want you to Western Union the difference to him, but he will never pick up the camers.

Good luck and dont fall for these traps.

[jerseycowboy]

Like everyone said - it's a scam. f you really want to have fun, email him and tell him someone else just bid twice what you were originally asking and if he would still like the camera, it will now cost him $x. I'll bet he'll say ok and ask for that information again.

[HKFEVER]

Always accept:

- TT, max. only take 3 days delay. If you provide him your bank's swift number.
- Cash, hand delivery and check the sn#.
- Paypal, cost a little bit and time only.

Never accept:

- Cheque, need min 30 days for bank to process cheque from other country.
- Bank Draft, same story as cheque.
- Money Order, same story.

[antaine]

Emailed him and told him that I wanted to sell in a rush (not that much of a rush) and would not wait the 3 weeks for his money/bank order to cash. No reply yet.

Julia, I have my camera on buy and sell since Monday so fingers crossed (let me know if you have anyone who wants a 300D!)

thanks folks - its an ever changing world out there!

Antaine.