how many prints do people actually sell?

[narlus]

i gotta say that it's been a *very* low number for me...i've had some interest and then it goes cold...is $15 for a printed and posted 5x7 an outrageous sum?

[thelightofsound]

you sell prints? don't you need a model release for that?

i don't think 15 is outrageous

i gotta say that it's been a *very* low number for me...i've had some interest and then it goes cold...is $15 for a printed and posted 5x7 an outrageous sum?

[narlus]

i believe that 'fine art' qualifies for not needing a model release.

[johnms88]

None. Stopped trying.

15 seems ridiculous to the people who pay 10 at walmart for a wall sized poster....ya know?

[thelightofsound]

i believe that 'fine art' qualifies for not needing a model release.

i have had this conversation with jmintz on several occasions and he swears that you do need a model release. and he sources one of his graduate classes. i will have to get him to chime in so he can be more specific.

do you have a source for your thoughts?

i would love to be able to at least try to sell prints.

[londonblue007]

In the Rock'n'Roll world, I don't think prints get sold that often. I make prints for myself to hang in my recording studio, but that's cause they look cool in there...

Right now I'm working with an artist to create posters for promotions and to sell at shows. So, while they aren't prints per-say, I am still selling a product, and it is directly to the artist and his people. Probably will make a little more money that way then just selling prints.

[René Damkot]

I think there was a lawyer on Photoshopusertv on the topic (releases) once.
While back though...

IMO 15 seems okay. You're not only selling the actual print on paper, you also get payed the time involved, and the equipment used... Last time I checked my stuff was around a 5 figure number altogether.

I also stopped trying to sell prints. Not worth the hassle IMO, unless you sell a lot.

[jmintz]

i believe that 'fine art' qualifies for not needing a model release.

To a certain degree.

However...

You're dealing with an individual's right of publicity, which roughly states that an individual has the right to control their image/likeness from being used for profit without consent.

This is state law, not federal, so restrictions depends on where you are, but there are always loopholes (i.e. Hustler magazine got sued because of an ad they ran with Jerry Fallwell's picture, not in the state the magazine is published, but one of the states it was distributed in).

If you're selling the pics to a magazine for editorial purposes you're clear, but once you profit, you're walking a fine, fine line between what is interpreted as original art and what is clearly an artist's likeness, and the only one that can profit from an artist's picture (without prior consent) is that artist or their family (once deceased).

Here's a brief explanation - not sure what this web site is - I just used google since I'm at work and don't have text/reference books here...

http://www.publicdomainsherpa.com/rights-of-publicity-and-privacy.html

[bubbawillums]

i sell prints on occasion but its usually to friends etc... have only sold about 30 and sell A4 for £20 a print and a3 for £35..

[Milner]

Pretty much the same as the rest of you. The only time I have sold prints from shows was for either the promoter to hang in their offices or for a venue to do the same.
Most of what I shoot is either for web based use or promotional material. Very little of it even makes it to my web site. It just is not worth the hassle that the major label people can create if they don't like it. Might not be illegal, but can you afford to prove it??

[narlus]

i guess one important distinction is that i tend not to shoot bands that are on major labels.

[londonblue007]

i guess one important distinction is that i tend not to shoot bands that are on major labels.

Ditto with me... if I sell prints, it's the rights to print to the bands themselves.

[narlus]

i found this guy's site, and he sells limited edition prints for $300 or $500.
http://jeremyharris.com/

[londonblue007]

i found this guy's site, and he sells limited edition prints for $300 or $500.
http://jeremyharris.com/


must be nice... if he actually sells them...

[skifurthur]

Seems to me that selling one limited edition print at a sound price is much better than trying to sell 10 low priced prints (and you end up making the same amount of money) to people that will try everything to lower the price even more.

Or so I've heard. ;)

[Metalphotographer]

I did OK last year selling prints to members of local bands, they seemed to like giving photos of themselves rocking out to relatives as gifts. I totaled around 50 prints which isn't too bad as far as I am concerned. I sell Costco 8x12s for $30. I upload my images to Costco via the web and the stores only a 5 minute drive so there isn't much legwork involved.