Daytona Beach Nascar

[ttsupraman93]

Im a proud new renter of a Canon 100-400L IS :D WOOHOO!!!!...im going to the nascar races this weekend in Daytona (now if anybody could get me a media pass or sneak me in...thatd be GREAT!! lol) but neway we got badass seats, and hopefully ill be able to use this lens alot this weekend, it supposed to be nice weather. (crosses fingers)...i got a GREAT deal on the rental...a whopping $105.00 for a week...thats not 1/2 bad if u ask me...The place is called Penn Camera (PennCamera.com) check it out...great place! anybody have opinions on this lens?

[gramps]

It's a great lens. Read the instructions on the IS one setting is for paning which you might be doing as the cars go by (that's if you use the IS).

[ttsupraman93]

Unfortunately they did not include instructions (eeeekkk!) if anyone could share with me the different settings...please feel free.

[pcasciola]

It's a great lens. Read the instructions on the IS one setting is for paning which you might be doing as the cars go by (that's if you use the IS).Good tip here, gramps. Also, practice with the IS, panning mode and the push pull zoom before the actual race. You don't want to be fumbling around with all this in the middle of the race. And bring an extra battery or two, because IS uses some battery power.

[defordphoto]

Pan using 2, if you use IS. I rarely use it, but it's your choice. Use 1.8m-infinity for close focusing only. Otherwise set to 6.5m-

O is IS off. | is IS on.

That's about it.

Practice before going to the track so you're somewhat familiar...

[gramps]

quote from the "book" "Use mode 2 for continunious shots of moving subject. Mode 2 provide image stabilization ONLY in the direction of the camera movement."

[ttsupraman93]

yea im flying to jacksonville tmrw night at 7 with my ole man...and im arriving in jacksonville n stayin at my cousins house for the night...then friday morning we rented a winnabeggo (however the hell you spell it) and drive down to daytona so ill have plenty of time to practice with it

[ttsupraman93]

So which is best for panning...Mode I or II ? and whats better to use when... the 1.8- or the 6.5-??

[gramps]

So which is best for panning...Mode I or II ? and whats better to use when... the 1.8- or the 6.5-??

if it were me....................... I'd start with the IS OFF!!!! shoot at a high shutter speed. If you want to try the IS panning side to side as the cars go by use mode 2. Also set the focusing to 6.5

[ttsupraman93]

Thanks i appreciate the help...i think i will take your advice and pan with the IS off

[defordphoto]

Actually, you don't want to shoot with too high a shutter speed. 1/500 or below is best for pans. Get into the 1/250 or below for even better tire/wheel/background blur. If you shoot too high a speed it will look like the car is standing still. Go even lower into 1/125 if you can shoot it. It's tough, but when you get them it's so sweet.

The key? Practice. Also remember that just because the LCD may show a decent looking photo, when you get back to the "lab" and view the photos, many will be blurry.

Have fun and good luck!!!

[pcasciola]

Also remember that just because the LCD may show a decent looking photo, when you get back to the "lab" and view the photos, many will be blurry.

How true. This actually drives me nuts to the point where I'm seriously considering an Epson P-2000 (3.8" LCD @ 640x480) not just to offload images, but just to be able to check focus better. I've come home sometimes with 60-70% OOF shots and all looked great in the LCD. How much better is the 1D Mk II to the 10D/20D in this regard? Can you get a better idea of your focus by zooming all the way in? I thought I read somewhere that the 1D Mk II LCD has 4 times the resolution of the 20D's.

[defordphoto]

How true. This actually drives me nuts to the point where I'm seriously considering an Epson P-2000 (3.8" LCD @ 640x480) not just to offload images, but just to be able to check focus better. I've come home sometimes with 60-70% OOF shots and all looked great in the LCD. How much better is the 1D Mk II to the 10D/20D in this regard? Can you get a better idea of your focus by zooming all the way in? I thought I read somewhere that the 1D Mk II LCD has 4 times the resolution of the 20D's.

I'm not sure on the res of the LCD's. I never rely on them. For me, it's getting to know the camera, what it can do, its limitations along with my limitations. Once I get that all figured out I pretty much know what photos I get and which I miss when I make the shot. I'm usually right, but not always, but closer than trying to figure it out on the LCD.

One key is to have enough memory cards where you don't have to be concerned about it for that session until you get back to the "lab."

The major diff between any of the 1D series cameras and the prosumer cams is focus in general in world's faster and world's more accurate, though the gap is getting a little bit smaller with each generation.

[zach]

After renting this lens you'll want to buy it, trust me I just did!

[pcasciola]

The major diff between any of the 1D series cameras and the prosumer cams is focus in general in world's faster and world's more accurate, though the gap is getting a little bit smaller with each generation.Yeah. We had this conversation fairly recently, and I was thinking they were closer (20D vs 1D Mk II), but now I'm not so sure. With my 20D in AI Servo, I'm finding now I am throwing away a LOT of shots, and I'm thinking that's where I'd gain the most going with the 1D Mk II. Do you notice the same, being that you have both?

[defordphoto]

Yeah. We had this conversation fairly recently, and I was thinking they were closer (20D vs 1D Mk II), but now I'm not so sure. With my 20D in AI Servo, I'm finding now I am throwing away a LOT of shots, and I'm thinking that's where I'd gain the most going with the 1D Mk II. Do you notice the same, being that you have both?

We don't have much real-time shooting on the 20D yet to really offer a serious opinion, especially for sports shooting. I would be surprised to find it that far off as the 10D did pretty darn good for me and the 20D is world's faster than the 10D.

[mbze430]

If you want to get great AI Focus, set the CF so that it uses * to start/stop focus. ALot of birders uses it this way, and I use this for shooting planes and cars. But it does take practice to get used to it.

[yellow_belly]

Thanks i appreciate the help...i think i will take your advice and pan with the IS offWHY ???? Just use mode 2 and you will have a sharper image...

Terry

[RJSorensen]

Mode one tracks up, down, left & right. Mode two only tracks, lets say for this example . . . up & down, leaving you to pan in time with the subject. If it were not for the mode 2 (II) the IS would try to fight the pan. Results are not good, lol. So Mode one (I) for hand held and Mode two (II) for panning.

[ttsupraman93]

I used the lens and i LOVE it...i definately would like to pick one up...I'll post pictures soon