View Full Version : 2nd eShoot | Paul & Cheryl
Atiyeh
14th of October 2008 (Tue), 09:29
This was my second engagement session. I think I improved from my last one dramatically. I shot all in Manual. Any C&C appreciated. Be brutal, please. :) All shot w/ the 35 1.4. I've found that these look great on any LCD, but on CRTs these lose so much detail. I see the horizon is way tilted on #1 but I'd clip her hair if I changed it :(
#1 http://atiyeh.zenfolio.com/img/v4/p35501023-4.jpg
#2 http://atiyeh.zenfolio.com/img/v4/p347928107-4.jpg
#3 http://atiyeh.zenfolio.com/img/v4/p150552132-4.jpg
#4 http://atiyeh.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p244254386-4.jpg
#5 http://atiyeh.zenfolio.com/img/v4/p351623650-4.jpg
mikeassk
14th of October 2008 (Tue), 12:32
These are great! I would maybe try to lessen the highlight on her face in #3 if at all possible. its a bit hot on my monitor.
The last one is a gem!
PaulGallagher
14th of October 2008 (Tue), 13:16
They all look amazing, in 3 the sun is causing them to squint a bit but a nice natural moment, they are all keepers and the couple should love them.
joshbehan
14th of October 2008 (Tue), 14:41
i really like 4 and 5, nicely done
Atiyeh
14th of October 2008 (Tue), 15:38
Sweet! Ill do that on #3 :)
Thanks for the feedback.
Ziffle
14th of October 2008 (Tue), 21:54
nice set.... i like #1 - the horizon does not mater w/ your angle of shot - it give the perception he is looking into her (IMHO)
very nice.....
DeepShadows
15th of October 2008 (Wed), 02:23
Very nice work for your 2nd time! I think you've inspired me when I get more time to post up some of my recent work because it is not as good as this stuff so I might actually improve as well. Keep it up! Also, did you find yourself chimping a lot shooting all in manual or once you found a certain look you went with it? Reason I ask is because I wonder how you would handle the couple as you adjust all the time when you don't get the exposure you wanted. I think I shoot manual only about 50% of the time, and 49% AV mode, 1% TV mode for that specific look. I'm also realized how much harder I have to work with my 40D to get that great depth of field you get with full frame. Yarrr 5D Mark II can't come soon enough... or even a 5D.
Atiyeh
15th of October 2008 (Wed), 09:27
Very nice work for your 2nd time! I think you've inspired me when I get more time to post up some of my recent work because it is not as good as this stuff so I might actually improve as well. Keep it up! Also, did you find yourself chimping a lot shooting all in manual or once you found a certain look you went with it? Reason I ask is because I wonder how you would handle the couple as you adjust all the time when you don't get the exposure you wanted. I think I shoot manual only about 50% of the time, and 49% AV mode, 1% TV mode for that specific look. I'm also realized how much harder I have to work with my 40D to get that great depth of field you get with full frame. Yarrr 5D Mark II can't come soon enough... or even a 5D.
Thanks for the complements :). As for handling the couple... I just constantly gave them feedback, "excellent", "you're doing great", "perfect" ... etc. This shoot was done in Laguna Beach, and the sun was about 20-30 mins before setting, so the light was constantly changing color (as evidenced by some of the pics) ... the entire shoot was done in M.
I would meter off my hand every 10 minutes or so to ensure I was getting the right exposure... now the WB is a different animal. I had a lastolight ezybalance that I had a friend hold up every now and then. I found that I didn't actually use it too much but I had it available. I corrected most of the pics that had similar lighting in PP via LR.
All these were shot on WB Mode - "Daylight" ... so they were all a constant temperature. The color change is exactly what occurred while the sun was setting. I would chimp every few shots just to ensure I wasn't clipping (too much) ... occasionally I would find myself missing a shot here or there because I was too worried about minute clipping which in a way isn't as important as making sure I got the shot, as opposed to worrying about a perfect histogram. Afterall, if you don't get the shot, what's the point of a perfect histogram?
So basically, I am still learning, and I know I improved from my first session... I didn't use flash whatsoever, and I really need to learn it before my next session. Looks like wifey is going to volunteer her time at the beach for me.
joshbehan
15th of October 2008 (Wed), 10:55
Very nice work for your 2nd time! I think you've inspired me when I get more time to post up some of my recent work because it is not as good as this stuff so I might actually improve as well. Keep it up! Also, did you find yourself chimping a lot shooting all in manual or once you found a certain look you went with it? Reason I ask is because I wonder how you would handle the couple as you adjust all the time when you don't get the exposure you wanted. I think I shoot manual only about 50% of the time, and 49% AV mode, 1% TV mode for that specific look. I'm also realized how much harder I have to work with my 40D to get that great depth of field you get with full frame. Yarrr 5D Mark II can't come soon enough... or even a 5D.
It's not the camera that's limiting your depth of field, he shot this session with a 35 1.4L, which is where that nice narrow depth of field and bokeh comes from
kelvinleung
15th of October 2008 (Wed), 12:07
Nice capture, #5 is my fav
Atiyeh
15th of October 2008 (Wed), 13:36
It's not the camera that's limiting your depth of field, he shot this session with a 35 1.4L, which is where that nice narrow depth of field and bokeh comes from
Very true. I neglected to elaborate on the DOF. That is simply the lens stopped down once or twice from wide open. In this case, probably 1.8 or F2
Ockie
15th of October 2008 (Wed), 14:09
great shots, if you are very bothered about the horizon line in #1 perhaps you could clone out some sea on the right and fake a straight horizon ;)
twofruitz
16th of October 2008 (Thu), 00:15
REALLY good shoot, but you asked to be brutal! :) The picks are great, so only take this lightly.
#1. This head is completely blown out, if you grab the raw file, knock down exposure all the way, and bring up recovery, you may be able to blend some definition back in. The horizon is also not straight.
#2. Tighter crop might suit better?
#3. Drop white balance just a tad to take some of the yellow tone off.
#4. Portrait crop might make this more intimate.
#5. Flare is a bit distracting, but its a great photo :)
Atiyeh
16th of October 2008 (Thu), 00:42
I appreciate the feedback! :) Ill do all those tomorrow and see how I feel about em'
Thanks again! :cool:
REALLY good shoot, but you asked to be brutal! :) The picks are great, so only take this lightly.
#1. This head is completely blown out, if you grab the raw file, knock down exposure all the way, and bring up recovery, you may be able to blend some definition back in. The horizon is also not straight.
#2. Tighter crop might suit better?
#3. Drop white balance just a tad to take some of the yellow tone off.
#4. Portrait crop might make this more intimate.
#5. Flare is a bit distracting, but its a great photo :)
tedBalog
16th of October 2008 (Thu), 16:25
#5 is a winner, very nice shot!
Atiyeh
16th of October 2008 (Thu), 16:38
#5 is a winner, very nice shot!
awesome! now if I could remember how I did it, lol
DigitalSoCal
16th of October 2008 (Thu), 19:02
Is that Corona Del Mar?
Atiyeh
16th of October 2008 (Thu), 21:11
Is that Corona Del Mar?
Bluebird Beach.
sayn3ver
17th of October 2008 (Fri), 00:01
5 would be the nuts if it had a little fill on their faces, although either #1 or #5 is you're strongest of the set.
Atiyeh
20th of October 2008 (Mon), 11:00
Thanks Sayn :)
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