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kawter2
18th of February 2005 (Fri), 15:42
I just picked this up from the local camera shop, I'm hoping to get a lot better color with this??


Any reviews out yet?

http://www.ericcotter.com/ac/new_cf.jpg

gramps
18th of February 2005 (Fri), 15:43
how big is it? does that 5 in the corner mean 5 gigs?

Mogwyth
18th of February 2005 (Fri), 15:56
I just picked this up from the local camera shop, I'm hoping to get a lot better color with this??


Any reviews out yet?

http://www.ericcotter.com/ac/new_cf.jpg


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol::lol:

Is there one for Ilford SFX?

CyberDyneSystems
18th of February 2005 (Fri), 16:02
What a great marketing Idea for Fuji :)

Hmm.. Velvia CF,.

cactusclay
18th of February 2005 (Fri), 16:06
Hmmmm, super mod. Congrats CDS.
So, whats the color look like? can you post some pics with that and another card, please.

Adam Hicks
18th of February 2005 (Fri), 16:30
Nice one. And it's amazing how many people ask for samples.

I do love the Velvia Photoshop actions that I found for free somewhere not long ago. Really give a nice warm touch to portraits.

Now I need a Portra (NC) 160 filter :)

mbze430
18th of February 2005 (Fri), 16:43
If it was Velvia 50 it would be much better

12345Michael54321
18th of February 2005 (Fri), 16:46
I'm hoping to get a lot better color with this??
My 2GB Sandisk Ultra II cards set me back about $165/each, but I find that they hold shadow detail slightly better than do Lexar cards, and allow for a smoother, more "buttery" bokah than do the 40x Kingston CF cards. (The old 4x Kingston was perhaps the most beautifully bokah-enhancing CF card of all time. But this card was discontinued a while back, and upon learning that Kingston had already done its last production run of the 4x card, professional portrait photographers pretty much bought up whatever remaining stock was out there.)

Although the Sandisk Extreme is similar to the Ultra II, it tends to give a greenish-yellow cast to skin tones, not unlike late 1970s vintage Fujichrome. However, if I'm not photographing people, it's a wonderful card; it gives me about an extra 2/3 stop before losing highlight detail, and is the only CF card capable of rivaling the Transcend 80x 1GB for virtually eliminating purple fringing, when photographing tree branches against a bright sky. (I hope the recently announced Sandisk Extreme III is as good.)

JeM
18th of February 2005 (Fri), 17:00
I sure hope your all just kidding.

Mogwyth
18th of February 2005 (Fri), 17:01
Although the Sandisk Extreme is similar to the Ultra II, it tends to give a greenish-yellow cast to skin tones, not unlike late 1970s vintage Fujichrome. However, if I'm not photographing people, it's a wonderful card; it gives me about an extra 2/3 stop before losing highlight detail, and is the only CF card capable of rivaling the Transcend 80x 1GB for virtually eliminating purple fringing, when photographing tree branches against a bright sky. (I hope the recently announced Sandisk Extreme III is as good.)

On top of your observations the Extreme cards given their additional speed are much better for sports and lowlight use, but I prefer the orginal Sandisks for landscapes.

jbradc
18th of February 2005 (Fri), 17:03
The camera captures the image date, then processes it (if you shoot JPG) and the CF card stores the data. So how can different cards affect color? Thats like saying my photos look better when I burn them to a Memorex CD instead of a Sony CD.
Please tell me you are kidding :lol:

Mogwyth
18th of February 2005 (Fri), 17:09
The camera captures the image date, then processes it (if you shoot JPG) and the CF card stores the data. So how can different cards affect color? Thats like saying my photos look better when I burn them to a Memorex CD instead of a Sony CD.
Please tell me you are kidding :lol:

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:You mean you haven't noticed the difference, Memorex has much more saturated colours.:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

rfreschner
18th of February 2005 (Fri), 17:11
I sure hope your all just kidding.

My first thought when reading this thread was "It's April Fools Day" already? Great marketing scheme by Fuji.

jbradc
18th of February 2005 (Fri), 17:11
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:You mean you haven't noticed the difference.:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Hey in some of the forums I have been in, this would be a serious topic. I just wanted to make sure you guys weren't going crazy :p

stoneylonesome
18th of February 2005 (Fri), 17:12
Gee maybe Kodak can come out with one with the Ektachrome coloration, I always liked the blue saturation on the slides. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Mogwyth
18th of February 2005 (Fri), 17:20
Hey in some of the forums I have been in, this would be a serious topic.

That's all right I think I have been in some of those forums.

All joking apart, wouldn't it be possible to put a some form of firmware on the CF card to set the camera parameters to emulate different films.

rfreschner
18th of February 2005 (Fri), 17:28
All joking apart, wouldn't it be possible to put a some form of firmware on the CF card to set the camera parameters to emulate different films.

As a former software developer, I would never be so naive as to rule anything out, but why would you want it on the card when it can probably be done on the PC?

Radtech1
18th of February 2005 (Fri), 17:32
Let me know if you see any infrared cards. :p

Rad

Mogwyth
18th of February 2005 (Fri), 17:32
As a former software developer, I would never be so naive as to rule anything out, but why would you want it on the card when it can probably be done on the PC?

Just speculating, I'm quite happy with what I can do in PS.

rfreschner
18th of February 2005 (Fri), 17:34
Just speculating

You never know.........

Chris1le
18th of February 2005 (Fri), 17:56
All joking apart, wouldn't it be possible to put a some form of firmware on the CF card to set the camera parameters to emulate different films.

Um... yes it would and it is now available from Lexar. For N*k*n users. :cool:

"At the center of AMS are Professional CompactFlash cards that are able to store user preferences and host device settings in a protected area on the card. These settings can only be modified by the host application that created them and can be used to auto-configure multiple ActiveMemory-enabled products within the system. These settings are preserved even when the card is re-formatted or other data files on the card are deleted, because the ActiveMemory data is stored outside the standard DOS file structure on the card."

http://************/585yg

KenE
18th of February 2005 (Fri), 17:58
If you trace around the top edges with a red-eye marker, I've heard you get a 1.5-2x speed boost.

Mogwyth
18th of February 2005 (Fri), 18:10
Um... yes it would and it is now available from Lexar. For N*k*n users. :cool:

"At the center of AMS are Professional CompactFlash cards that are able to store user preferences and host device settings in a protected area on the card. These settings can only be modified by the host application that created them and can be used to auto-configure multiple ActiveMemory-enabled products within the system. These settings are preserved even when the card is re-formatted or other data files on the card are deleted, because the ActiveMemory data is stored outside the standard DOS file structure on the card."

http://************/585yg

***** I was just filling out the patent forms, just have to get a N*k*n then:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

CanonUser
18th of February 2005 (Fri), 18:23
Shee..e..sh! Now I have to go back and forth between indoor/outdoor CFs at wedding?

Duder
18th of February 2005 (Fri), 18:27
yeah, it's a little known fact that if you take the card out and turn it round you can record on the other side.

PacAce
18th of February 2005 (Fri), 19:14
yeah, it's a little known fact that if you take the card out and turn it round you can record on the other side.
Ummm, I think that's only true if they are the CF Type II cards. :confused:

Duder
18th of February 2005 (Fri), 19:18
Ummm, I think that's only true if they are the CF Type II cards. :confused:

oh yeah, I forget to mention that.

12345Michael54321
18th of February 2005 (Fri), 19:24
Yes people, I was kidding. Nor is there any truth to the claim that my pictures look more contrasty when stored on my Western Digital 120 gig hard drive, than on the Seagate 200 gig hard drive.

Jesper
19th of February 2005 (Sat), 00:44
how big is it? does that 5 in the corner mean 5 gigs?
....It has enough capacity for 36 images. :D
And watch out when you take it out of the camera, you should do it in dim lighting otherwise your photos might be ruined. :)

pcasciola
19th of February 2005 (Sat), 01:00
You know, this is not that far beyond the realm of possibility. A type II CF card could fit a small processor, and be able to apply some post processing to the JPEG before storing it on the card. We are laughing about it now, but someday, somebody over at Canon will figure out how to make $100 million selling these things to the post processing "challenged". Eventually, we'll see USM cards sold as "sharper CF cards", and Noise Ninja cards as "low noise CF cards". :) :) :)

kawter2
19th of February 2005 (Sat), 01:09
You know, this is not that far beyond the realm of possibility. A type II CF card could fit a small processor, and be able to apply some post processing to the JPEG before storing it on the card. We are laughing about it now, but someday, somebody over at Canon will figure out how to make $100 million selling these things to the post processing "challenged". Eventually, we'll see USM cards sold as "sharper CF cards", and Noise Ninja cards as "low noise CF cards". :) :) :)

HAHA that is exactly what inspired this post!! I was sitting back thinking... why the heck dont they... I would never buy it, but man all these film companies need to get their customer base back somehow

swoop1156
19th of February 2005 (Sat), 01:15
This thread is just what I needed to make my day better after a long day's work on Saturday. Now I can go home and change some settings inside my CF card!

HKFEVER
19th of February 2005 (Sat), 09:10
You know, this is not that far beyond the realm of possibility. A type II CF card could fit a small processor, and be able to apply some post processing to the JPEG before storing it on the card. We are laughing about it now, but someday, somebody over at Canon will figure out how to make $100 million selling these things to the post processing "challenged". Eventually, we'll see USM cards sold as "sharper CF cards", and Noise Ninja cards as "low noise CF cards". :) :) :)

You are right, I was in computer business for a long time and see the tech evolve so fast. Remember when IBM has XT and now 64bits mulit-processer in a smaller chip that 8086.

New Mini SD card is so small that have to put in a adaptec for regular SD.

To put a processor in the CF card just like starting 512Mb to 4GB, get up some MB chip space then you have a configable CF card that can auto convert your imput data to the special enhancment that you require as you pick different type of film.

Illegally_Alive
19th of February 2005 (Sat), 09:27
Great topic, and great posts!!!!!!!!!
I was laughing soooooo hard! :) :)

HKFEVER
19th of February 2005 (Sat), 09:39
This is a very serious post, say:
- monkey to human.
- first PC to P4
- first PDA from Plam to Pocket PC
- first hugh cell phone to nowadays 3G with WIN bulit in
- 32MB CF to 4GB CF
- Digital PS to 1.6 DSLR
- CRT to 63" Plasma

Monkey's brain evolve to capable to change the earth to fit their need.

pierrot
19th of February 2005 (Sat), 10:35
How is it that after 7'30" in the E6 first developer (at 100°F/38°C) I still can get no picture out of it??? :(

Mogwyth
19th of February 2005 (Sat), 11:21
How is it that after 7'30" in the E6 first developer (at 100°F/38°C) I still can get no picture out of it??? :(

You didn't put the card in the E6 did you:confused::confused:

That's not how it works you don't need to process these new films yourself, you're supposed to put in one of the these new fangled printers. Plug the card in and the auto darkroom built into it processes the images, prints out the results and reloads the card.:lol::lol::lol::lol:

pierrot
19th of February 2005 (Sat), 11:52
I just forgot to rinse! Now I'm done and everything's OK. :mrgreen:

Lefty Ray
19th of February 2005 (Sat), 12:23
Do any of the cards come in "Spanish?" I bought a 20D in Mexico City and these english cards give me heck.

Mogwyth
25th of February 2005 (Fri), 16:18
Had to ressurect this after seeing this genuine post on another site.

"Is there a CF card that is especially good for portraits?"

The poster goes onto say "..................and I was wondering if there was a particular card that is good for portraits...contrast and good quaility and everything.."

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

CyberDyneSystems
25th of February 2005 (Fri), 16:50
Although My UltraII CFs have faster performnace in my 1DMkII,. I find the contrast, and color too harsh and aggressive,. Sharpening these files is also tougher as one needs to be much more carefull in the USM levels applied before one pushes the images too far. Extra care needs to be taken during exposure as blow outs are far more common than on some older cards. This despite the UltraIIs much larger Dynamic range.


With the less Speedy Microdrives,. I sacrifice some speed and durability,. but the MD gives me that smooth buttery warm "tube feel" you get from old Mono Tube amplifiers as compared to a Modern day Mos-fet amp,. the soft clipping of the old style magnetic platters handles blown highlights much better,. and despite the reduced measurable dynamic range,. the way the MD rolls off the high end it actually seems to leave the images more open,. and broader spectrumed.

Likewise,.. though color and contrast are not so intense as on the hyper fast UltraII,. I found them more soothing and natural... and ths easier to work with when it comes time to post process,.


CDS
Executive Editor,
StereoPhile Magazine

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

12345Michael54321
25th of February 2005 (Fri), 17:33
A nice way to tame the Ultra II's contrast is to expose the card to a brief, bright light (like a camera flash), then immediately insert the card into the camera.

When done shooting, remove the card in a room with subdued light and insert into the card reader immediately.

Whatever you do, DO NOT expose the card to fluorescent lights! That's a totally newbie sort of mistake, and it's the cause of probably 80% of blown highlights with this card.

I hear you about the Microdrives. I have two MDs that remind me of Quicksilver Monobloc amps. I also find that the microdrives perform at a much lower noise level if my camera's battery is charged with ultra-clean current. I'm considering replacing my house wiring (at least to my camera room) with linear silver crystal wiring, so as to get the most artifact-free electricity possible. Also, if you have a microwave oven in your home, unplug it while charging your camera batteries. Don't just make sure the oven's off - it must be unplugged.

Sure, some ignorant people will say none of these practices enhance the image more than a relatively unimportant 10-20%. But these are probably the same people who insist that hanging a million square yards of orange nylon in Central Park is on a lower artistic level than, say, a Rembrandt painting. Uncultured Philistines.

michael.luczkow
25th of February 2005 (Fri), 17:36
A nice way to tame the Ultra II's contrast is to expose the card to a brief, bright light (like a camera flash), then immediately insert the card into the camera.

When done shooting, remove the card in a room with subdued light and insert into the card reader immediately.

Whatever you do, DO NOT expose the card to fluorescent lights! That's a totally newbie sort of mistake, and it's the cause of probably 80% of blown highlights with this card.

I hear you about the Microdrives. I have two MDs that remind me of Quicksilver Monobloc amps. I also find that the microdrives perform at a much lower noise level if my camera's battery is charged with ultra-clean current. I'm considering replacing my house wiring (at least to my camera room) with linear silver crystal wiring, so as to get the most artifact-free electricity possible. Also, if you have a microwave oven in your home, unplug it while charging your camera batteries. Don't just make sure the oven's off - it must be unplugged.

Sure, some ignorant people will say none of these practices enhance the image more than a relatively unimportant 10-20%. But these are probably the same people who insist that hanging a million square yards of orange nylon in Central Park is on a lower artistic level than, say, a Rembrandt painting. Uncultured Philistines.
LMAO

CyberDyneSystems
25th of February 2005 (Fri), 18:25
Ahh yes,. the Flourescent mistake,. a common issue.

Another way to make the most of your images after they are taken on ANY card,. (but especially with the MD drives with the moving parts),. is to make sure that when downloading images from your camera, that your camera is resting on a pair of "InGlasCo" brand regulation NHL certified Hockey Pucks.

The Pucks should be set on as firm a desk surface as possible, side by side, but not touching eachother. This isolatges the camera from vibrations when downloading,. vibrations that will certainly have a detrimental effect on your images,. introducing such harsh artifacts as Moire, noise, and banding.

Try it,. you'll find the difference in your images palpable,.. more open, stronger yet more fluid low end darks and the crispest sharpest highlights you've ever seen. Particularly in your Landscape width compositions, though your portrait aspect images will benifit as well.

Again,. be sure to use only "InGlasCo" of Sherbrooke, Que brand, as the Spaulding and EverLast are inferior and do not provide the same isolating qualities.

(also steer away from the "moog pucks" which aren't hockey pucks at all but some snale oil compay trying to capitalize on the succes of the "InGlasCo" pucks with there supposedly purpose designed isolation "pucks" These smaller and lighter knock offs are actually nothing more than rebranded kids street hockey pucks manufactured by toy manufacturer Mattell. It's amazing what some people will get roped into buying in the hopes of better image quality! Avoid at all costs)



Michael mentioned wiring which is of course a key eliment to good photos! Be sure to use braided copper USB or Firewire cables as large a guage as possible to eliminate jitter and crosstalk interference.

MrChad
25th of February 2005 (Fri), 18:34
I just picked this up from the local camera shop, I'm hoping to get a lot better color with this??


Any reviews out yet?

http://www.ericcotter.com/ac/new_cf.jpg


Any chance there will be an Fuji Press color 1600, I'd love to improve the high end ISO--I like my press film's grain feel better then the high ISO noise :P

JeffS
25th of February 2005 (Fri), 22:02
And when the card fills up with pictures, just take it to any darkroom equipped with an enlarger. As long as they use the red light filter, your existing pictures will not be damaged. Instant increase in capacity for the cards you already own! No need to purchase those new expensive high-capacity cards!

pierrot
26th of February 2005 (Sat), 04:13
I just can't beleive that you all gurus don't ever mention the utmost importance of the "best before" and "process before" dates stamped on the side of the card.
And why don't you even say that's unused cards and exposed cards should be kept in the fridge?
Tell me of a dumbass forum... :rolleyes:

radar-eclipse
27th of March 2005 (Sun), 21:55
Coming from 20 years back to recent years, Fuji has waxed Kodak in film sales and has really put a hurt on Kodak to the point that Rochester, NY's economy will never be the same. As the world goes digital, Fuji film sales is going to tank. This could be a great marketing attempt to revive potentially lost revenue.???

Skip Souza
27th of March 2005 (Sun), 22:36
I find the Fuji card absolutely indispensable in still life photos. It is the ONLY card I will use to shim up the table leg.