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KevC
19th of February 2005 (Sat), 10:01
Hey.

I've looked around for printing info, but it seems all that's been said is regarding print labs.

I have a whole bunch of photos I want to print out on my school's S9000. They're all saved in TIFF after editing in PSD from RAW from my Drebel. I just purchased a 40 pack of 8.5x11 Kodak Ultima High Gloss (hehe I'm excited) and I wanna print my TIFFs.

I do believe most of them I made into 5x7 in photoshop. Now, I don't want to waste paper, so I want to put two 5x7 on one 8.5x11. Is there a way to do this in photoshop? Or should I just refeed the same page into the printer after it's done the first 5x7?

Should I even print from photoshop?

Help me!

gramps
19th of February 2005 (Sat), 10:07
one thing you can do is open a new file that is 8.5 x 11 and copy the two pics on to the new file then print it.............but there has to be an easier way.

CyberDyneSystems
19th of February 2005 (Sat), 10:12
Some printing applications will let you print an image "anchored" to a specific border on the page,. thus if you print one image anchored to the top of your papaer this leaves room for a second image made on a second pass.

Also,. some apps will let you print multiple images at a time, but usually this means a sort of "proofing" set up.. maybe not the best solution.

Anyway,. one program that I know let's you do both of the above is ACDsee,. but there may be free programs that do same,. even the Canon prining utility that comes with most of our cameras might do this?

PacAce
19th of February 2005 (Sat), 10:23
You can use Photoshop CS File > Automate > Picture Package to print two 5x7 side by side. You'd have to manually select the pictures you want to print but at least you can print them out 2 at a time. After you select the 1st image you want, you'll get two images of it in the screen. You have to then select one of them and right click to change it to a 2nd image.

robertwgross
19th of February 2005 (Sat), 10:30
I agree with CDS, and I use one of those editor applications rather than PhotoShop.

I print two 5x7 prints on each 8.5x11 sheet by refeeding. Keep life simple.

In fact, I'll wager that I've printed more that way than all other sizes combined.

The only problem is that normal photo albums don't hold them very efficiently.

---Bob Gross---

Scottes
19th of February 2005 (Sat), 10:31
It's not always a good idea to run a page through twice - you may get smudging, or loss of traction and thus mis-alignment if any rollers run over a pre-printed section.

I'd open one image and then Image... Canvas Size and make the image much wider - more than enough to hold two prints. Open the second image and drag the background layer onto the new wide image. (Cheap efficient cut&paste). Then print that.

If you're not interested in that method then I would let the first 5x7 print dry for at least 24 hours before running it through for the second image. And I'd also do a test run first - which means you have to wait 48 hours total...


OK, I didn't like either method above. So... File... Automate... Contact Sheet. Set the Document to 8.5x11 @ 300DPI. Set Thumbnails to 1 Column 2 Rows. Select your source folder where all your 5x7s are and hit OK...

And it seems like this will take a while and use a LOT of RAM unless you do 4 or 6 images per folder. And you lose a little bit of control but it might not be so bad. So I'd go back to my first method, personally

robertwgross
19th of February 2005 (Sat), 10:39
Scottes, I would certainly hope that any modern Canon printer prints will dry faster than that.

On my ancient Epson 1270, printing onto Epson Premium Luster Photo Paper, the first print comes out, it gets dried for one minute a few inches above a barely-warm compact fluorescent lamp, and then it goes right back in for the second print. No smudges or defects.

---Bob Gross---

PacAce
19th of February 2005 (Sat), 10:45
It's not always a good idea to run a page through twice - you may get smudging, or loss of traction and thus mis-alignment if any rollers run over a pre-printed section.

I'd open one image and then Image... Canvas Size and make the image much wider - more than enough to hold two prints. Open the second image and drag the background layer onto the new wide image. (Cheap efficient cut&paste). Then print that.

If you're not interested in that method then I would let the first 5x7 print dry for at least 24 hours before running it through for the second image. And I'd also do a test run first - which means you have to wait 48 hours total...


OK, I didn't like either method above. So... File... Automate... Contact Sheet. Set the Document to 8.5x11 @ 300DPI. Set Thumbnails to 1 Column 2 Rows. Select your source folder where all your 5x7s are and hit OK...

And it seems like this will take a while and use a LOT of RAM unless you do 4 or 6 images per folder. And you lose a little bit of control but it might not be so bad. So I'd go back to my first method, personally

Scott, what would be the advantage of using the Contact Sheet feature when the Print Package feature was set up specifically to do? :confused:

Avalonthas
19th of February 2005 (Sat), 10:59
Yes this can be accomplished, and the only way unless u get a specialty made program to set it up for you, is do it how gramps explained. Tedious yes, but thats all u can do unless u print using 5x7 paper.

Bodog
19th of February 2005 (Sat), 15:24
If you don't need color management, Windows XP will do it. In Windows Explorer, select your images, right click and select print. The wizard will take you to 2 5X7s on one page option.

pdrow
19th of February 2005 (Sat), 15:32
could you not cut the paper in half and print?

KevC
20th of February 2005 (Sun), 00:32
could you not cut the paper in half and print?

Smart one. REALLY smart one :D I can't believe I didn't think of that, rofl!

Quinn Porter
20th of February 2005 (Sun), 00:54
I recommend Qimage (http://www.ddisoftware.com/qimage/) as a printing application. You select the photos and the sizes, and Qimage will arrange them on the page. Qimage is color managed and produces high quality prints.

chris.bailey
20th of February 2005 (Sun), 02:16
PacAces method of using Picture Package is the way to go BUT if your images dont scale to 5x7 then CS will crop, which may not always be what you want. You also need to be careful to match the picture resolutions or CS will re-sample as it add the pictures in. If I am doing 5x7's I will crop to the pics to 5x7 and then save them in a 5x7 directory and then run them into Picture Package.

tim
20th of February 2005 (Sun), 02:30
Scott Kelby recommends using automate | picture package, never tried it myself, it looks pretty easy though.

gramps
20th of February 2005 (Sun), 08:21
Scott Kelby recommends using automate | picture package, never tried it myself, it looks pretty easy though.

I never saw picture package until I saw this thread. I works great!!!!!

KevC
20th of February 2005 (Sun), 10:34
Picture package seems nice. However, I want to print at max resolutions of each image. Some of them may be like 300ppi, others may be only 200ppi. (due to cropping) Should I just choose the highest or lowest of the two?

Scottes
20th of February 2005 (Sun), 10:45
Scottes, I would certainly hope that any modern Canon printer prints will dry faster than that.
Actually no, not completely. I would not expect any ink to be 100.00% dry for 12-24 hours. It may seem dry, but I wouldn't take the chance on rubbing it across a roller.

Scottes
20th of February 2005 (Sun), 10:46
Scott, what would be the advantage of using the Contact Sheet feature when the Print Package feature was set up specifically to do? :confused:
I have no idea. I don't use either - I just didn't like either of the original methods that I mentioned so I went poking through PS.

One of these days I hope to know 30% of Photoshop. I may never make it.

PacAce
20th of February 2005 (Sun), 10:54
One of these days I hope to know 30% of Photoshop. I may never make it.
LOL :lol: It's like a moving target, don't you think? As soon as you think you're making headway, they go and come out with a newer version and add more features that you'll need to learn. Move up one step and two more get added at the top. :lol:

Scottes
20th of February 2005 (Sun), 13:17
Yeah, and combine it all with the fact that so many things can be done several ways in PS.... 30% may be an outrageous goal.

chris.bailey
21st of February 2005 (Mon), 01:39
Picture package seems nice. However, I want to print at max resolutions of each image. Some of them may be like 300ppi, others may be only 200ppi. (due to cropping) Should I just choose the highest or lowest of the two?

That is the major problem with it. I tend to use 240dpi throughout and accept the resampling issues.