Mac software for organizing photos

[GreenEyedLady]

I am currently using iPhoto. I really don't like the fact that I can't attach a photo to an email without embedding it in the email. I have to do a zip to do all of that.
I would like to get some better photo organizing software and just stop using iPhoto.
I have taken a look at Apeture2. Anyone use that?
Which software programs would you use to organize?

Thanks
GEL

[crn3371]

I'd take a look at either Aperture, or Lightroom. Both have 30 day free trials.

[René Damkot]

I am currently using iPhoto. I really don't like the fact that I can't attach a photo to an email without embedding it in the email. I have to do a zip to do all of that.

Why is that? What exactly do you mean? You can attach a photo in Mail.
What mail program do you use?

Which software programs would you use to organize?

Have a look at iView Media Pro (Expression Media now), or Lightroom

[GreenEyedLady]

I'd take a look at either Aperture, or Lightroom. Both have 30 day free trials.


Wow, i just watched the Lightroom tutorial. It seems to have more features than Aperture. Anyone think it is better? It is 100 bucks more expensive but it seems that it would do the job and photoshop would only be needed for very intense editing.

[GreenEyedLady]

Why is that? What exactly do you mean? You can attach a photo in Mail.
What mail program do you use?



Have a look at iView Media Pro (Expression Media now), or Lightroom

You can attach a photo in Mail, but it embedds the photo when you send it off to anyone. So, if I want to send a photo to someone for print, they can't "open" and attachment because it is embedded in the email.
You have to do a zip file to attach mail.

[René Damkot]

they can't "open" and attachment because it is embedded in the email.

Right click > Save as...

[sf1]

I use Aperture. Its a great program and intergreted well with all the Apple products. Here are all of Apple's free tutorials on this:
http://www.apple.com/aperture/tutorials/

I thought embedding the photo using a Mac was part of the preferrences. I'm at work right now (on my PC) so I will check when I get home. Usually I just highlight the pics I want to send and press one button in Aperture (e-mail button) and the mail opens and attaches the pics. When I send the e-mail, they are received "opened" so there is no right clicking for PC recipients.

[sf1]

Right click > Save as...

Forgot to say that as well.

[GreenEyedLady]

Right click > Save as...

Mail resizes the attachments. I can't send a 1M attachment and it remain 1M it ends up being like 150k.
I did not notice until my friend said something. When I look at my sent folder it looks like the picture is NOT embedded.
But I check it on my husbands PC and it is embedded.

[tripsis]

What process are you using to send the picture? You should be doing something similar to the following:

Open the picture in iPhoto.
Export the photo and change the export settings if necessary, to ensure that no resizing takes place. Then save the picture to your desktop (or other desired location).
Open your e-mail.
Click "Attach file" (or other similar button).
Locate your photo and click "Attach."

Either way, it doesn't sound like this would be the fault of iPhoto, but something that you're doing wrong in the saving/attaching process or something that your e-mail host is doing. I have used iPhoto for years and have sent many e-mails containing large photo attachments and have never had any problems.

[René Damkot]

Mail resizes the attachments.

Only if you don't tell it not to:
Here's a quick example:

You might try checking the tickbox at the bottom as well.
http://img.skitch.com/20081021-n6yy7dcdgnkrtuds531k4dhy4m.jpg

http://img.skitch.com/20081021-p6c4c17xm2r6kcf1p9y99ps3p3.jpg

[GreenEyedLady]

I was so hoping that this would work Rene and Tripsis but no go.
When I attach from the desktop on a 605k picture it embeds as a 147k picture in mail.
I have that little box checked.
You both running leopard?

[René Damkot]

OSX 10.4.11 here.
Have you tried using the "attach" button in Mail, instead of drag and drop?

[GreenEyedLady]

OSX 10.4.11 here.
Have you tried using the "attach" button in Mail, instead of drag and drop?

YES!

[René Damkot]

Ehm, "YES!" as in: "Yes I tried, and I'm getting frustrated", or "YES!" as in: "That worked, hurray"?

;)

I've sent A4 images via Mail from more then one Mac to other computers, both Mac and PC, running a variety of email clients... So it *should* work.

[GreenEyedLady]

Ehm, "YES!" as in: "Yes I tried, and I'm getting frustrated", or "YES!" as in: "That worked, hurray"?

;)

I've sent A4 images via Mail from more then one Mac to other computers, both Mac and PC, running a variety of email clients... So it *should* work.

YES I HAVE TRIED....
and I am frustrated!:mad:

[René Damkot]

Right. Let's do this one step at a time:

First (double check): You do have "original size" in the drop box in the lower right of the new Mail window (see screenshot post 11)?

Google only found this: Click (http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8240356&tstart=0), but I assume that's not your problem, since the mail actually gets smaller...
I can't find anything indicating a change between your and my version of mail regarding this either...

I've tried all ways I could think off, and every single time, Mail (OS 10.4.11) creates a mail of about 1.2Mb when I embed / attach / drag and drop a medium res jpg of 900kB on it.

The only way to get the mail size to be smaller then the file size, is to set something other then "original size" in the aforementioned drop box...

If you can't get it to work, maybe post a screenshot? Or someone also using 10.5 could chime in?

[MaxxuM]

YES I HAVE TRIED....
and I am frustrated!:mad:

Right. Let's do this one step at a time:

First (double check): You do have "original size" in the drop box in the lower right of the new Mail window (see screenshot post 11)?

Google only found this: Click (http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8240356&tstart=0), but I assume that's not your problem, since the mail actually gets smaller...
I can't find anything indicating a change between your and my version of mail regarding this either...

I've tried all ways I could think off, and every single time, Mail (OS 10.4.11) creates a mail of about 1.2Mb when I embed / attach / drag and drop a medium res jpg of 900kB on it.

The only way to get the mail size to be smaller then the file size, is to set something other then "original size" in the aforementioned drop box...

If you can't get it to work, maybe post a screenshot? Or someone also using 10.5 could chime in?

I just tried it in OS X 10.5.5 and no problems... the image stayed the correct size from one end to the other both on PC and Mac. I tried using the "attachment" button and just dragging the file into the mail, both work fine.

Maybe your provider is compressing e-mails with images within the document vs already compressed files. Try using another e-mail account like g-mail (which is what I tested on).

Oh, and to the original question, I use both LR and Aperture and they are both very good. LR does have a couple more features for the extra $100. And buy from Amazon, Aperture is only $150 and LR only $273 last time I checked.

[GreenEyedLady]

I just tried it in OS X 10.5.5 and no problems... the image stayed the correct size from one end to the other both on PC and Mac. I tried using the "attachment" button and just dragging the file into the mail, both work fine.

Maybe your provider is compressing e-mails with images within the document vs already compressed files. Try using another e-mail account like g-mail (which is what I tested on).

Oh, and to the original question, I use both LR and Aperture and they are both very good. LR does have a couple more features for the extra $100. And buy from Amazon, Aperture is only $150 and LR only $273 last time I checked.
I think I figured out my issue. If I send in plain text, I have not problems getting the attachment on my PC. If it is on the HTML setting, it automatically embeds the picture into the email.

GEL

[Mustard Chops]

try right clicking the image in the body of the mail and selecting 'view as icon'

[OdiN1701]

Wow, i just watched the Lightroom tutorial. It seems to have more features than Aperture. Anyone think it is better? It is 100 bucks more expensive but it seems that it would do the job and photoshop would only be needed for very intense editing.

I pretty much use only Lightroom anymore. Photoshop just for the harder edit jobs or more specific ones.