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Timo Autiokari
14th of November 2002 (Thu), 14:37
Hi,

a couple of D60 profiles created with the XLProfiler are available at: http://www.aim-dtp.net/aim/calibration/xlprofiler/d60-profiles.zip

The ZIP contains:

"Canon D60 raw v2.0.icm" that is Linear RAW mode daylight profile.

"Canon D60 jpg standard.icm" that is JPEG mode daylight profile (with Parameters at "standard").

Altought they are daylight profiles they do very well with the 550EX (no color-temperature correction is needed if you keep the white-balance setting of the camera at daylight).

I've been shooting all the time the camera at daylight and I apply color temperature correction only after assigning the profile and converting to my working-space when the c-t correction really is needed.

BamaPhotoM
17th of November 2002 (Sun), 20:49
do you know if I can load these profiles for a D30

Timo Autiokari
18th of November 2002 (Mon), 01:15
The D30 has different gamut, tonal range and colorimetry than the D60 so when you Attach a D60 profile to D30 image you'll not get accurate results.

I'll be happy to profile D30 if someone provides the target shot (crw). Any reflective IT8 will do but the Kodak Q-60 Reflective Color Input Target is the best.

The target should be shot under decent daylight (but in a shadow, not directly illuminated by the sun nor under the open sky). We have decent daylight at around mid-day, on either sunny or cloudy day but the cloulds should appear as white or gray.

The shot, when converted to Linear 16-bit/c TIF, should show RGB values close to 255 for the Dmin patch (the leftmost patch on the horizontal graywedge at the bottom of the chart) when inspected using the eye-dropper tool. To achieve this, shoot the target say 8 times, starting from a safe exposure, then increase the exposure by +1/3 stop for each of the following shot and finally convert them all to 16-bit/c Linear TIF and inspect the Dmin patch using the eyedropper of Photoshop, select the one that shows RGB values close but not at 255. (while you do this, if your RGB working-space is non-linear the image appearance is very dark,but this does not affect to the eyedropper readout).

Please do not try to send large e-mails to me as they do not pass the mail server at my service provider. Instead send me an upload link.

Timo Autiokari
19th of November 2002 (Tue), 10:05
Uhhh, both the profiles were created with the "False Color Filter" in the RAW converter 2 set to OFF.

This filter seems to do a lot of damage, I suggest to turn it OFF in all cases.

Joni
29th of November 2002 (Fri), 01:20
Timo Autiokari wrote:
Uhhh, both the profiles were created with the "False Color Filter" in the RAW converter 2 set to OFF.

This filter seems to do a lot of damage, I suggest to turn it OFF in all cases.


I've been using your linear profile and it seems to provide quite accurate results for which I'm very pleased. However, setting false color filter to OFF produces really bad color artifacts on some images, especially on fine detail areas. I'm using BreezeBrowser for RAW conversion.

Is there any possibility that you could make another version of profile with false color filter ON?

BTW what target you have used to create these profiles?

-Joni

Timo Autiokari
29th of November 2002 (Fri), 03:48
Hello Joni,

Good to hear that you fould the profiles to be good.

Sure I can create another set of profiles with false color filter on, I'll do it as soon as I possibly can (I have a house building project in my hands and that has the highest priority at the moment).

Could you please inform exactly with kind (type) of materials does the FCF help? And what is the shooting setup with then (lens, aperture, distance, and lighting condition)?

I've used the Kodak reflective Q-60 batch no 1997:04.

Joni
29th of November 2002 (Fri), 11:18
Hi!

I've have seen these false colors only on few images. I've had D60 only very short period, so I don't have large amount of material to inspect.

Anyway false colors appears sometimes, when there is e.g. needle of a pine tree against high contrast background. I've used mostly canon 28-105 and sigma 105 macro for shooting. I'm not at home right now so I can't get more detailed information.

This is not a big problem, but I really preciate if you make those profiles.

-Joni

inside
13th of January 2003 (Mon), 22:23
Okay.......you guys lost me on this one. Can you explain what exactly the profiles are for.......are you talking about monitor calibration, something within the software for raw files or what?? Sorry, but this is new to me. I have the D60, ST-E2, and 2 550 EX flashes. What would I do with this profile and what would it do for me? Just call me dumb for now I guess!

wcapald
14th of January 2003 (Tue), 01:46
Would you assign these profiles before using the new linear D60 beta conversion on this forum developed by Pekka? Wayne

Timo Autiokari
14th of January 2003 (Tue), 03:19
Hi, to use the profiles you need an ICC color-managed system (a PC with properly calibrated and profiled CRT, eg. using the AdobeGamma) and an ICC aware editing sw such as the Photoshop 6.0 or later.

Linear workflow:

1. Convert RAW to linear TIF, open to Photoshop.
2. use Image/Mode/AssignProfile and Assign the linear D60 profile.
3. Use the Image/Mode/ConvertToProfile and convert to the RGB Working-Space.
4. Edit as needed.


Jpeg workflow:

1. Convert RAW to non-linear TIF (or shoot as JPEG), open to Photoshop.
2. use Image/Mode/AssignProfile and Assign the JPEG D60 profile.
3. Use the Image/Mode/ConvertToProfile and convert to the RGB Working-Space.
4. Edit as needed.