View Full Version : Nikon D700? "I know its not a canon but"
DerekRob
21st of October 2008 (Tue), 08:38
I know this is a canon forum but I've just seen the Nikon D700 and it's a sweet looking camera specially when it can shoot movies.
What are your thoughts about a full D-SLR shooting movies?
Should a D-slr only shoot still's, Or should it shoot both stills and movies?
John E
21st of October 2008 (Tue), 08:41
I didn't know the D700 could shoot movies. I thought only the new Canon 5dmkII could do that.
DerekRob
21st of October 2008 (Tue), 08:45
I didn't know the D700 could shoot movies. I thought only the new Canon 5dmkII could do that.Just saw the dude from that 70's show shooting the D700 in movie and sending the movie to a memstick.
dle42
21st of October 2008 (Tue), 09:49
As far as I know, the D90 and 5D II shoot movies. Maybe it was a D90...?
Ultimate CC
21st of October 2008 (Tue), 09:50
d90 not d700
DerekRob
21st of October 2008 (Tue), 09:52
d90 not d700No it's D700.
I just saw the commercial again.
Ultimate CC
21st of October 2008 (Tue), 09:54
http://imaging.nikon.com/products/imaging/lineup/digitalcamera/slr/d700/index.htm
Sorarse
21st of October 2008 (Tue), 10:13
Jack of all trades and all that. I already have a perfectly good video camera, why would I want a still camera with video capability?
Same when it comes to taking photos. If I want a decent image I'll use my DSLR and not the camera that's built in to my mobile phone.
Colorblinded
21st of October 2008 (Tue), 10:18
The D700 does not shoot videos. End of story.
gjl711
21st of October 2008 (Tue), 10:21
Would be somethin if Nikon choose to update the D700 firmware allowing for movie mode. Might push Canon off it's arse and start offering software only features through firmware upgrades. I know a few 40D owners that would love to see micro-focus adjustments, and it would be so ease for Canon to do it.
Mike
21st of October 2008 (Tue), 10:27
As far as I know, the D90 and 5D II shoot movies. Maybe it was a D90...?
d90 not d700
The D700 does not shoot videos. End of story.
I'm with these guys - D90, not D700. 5DII is currently the only other DSLR that can shoot movies.
DerekRob
21st of October 2008 (Tue), 10:28
The D700 does not shoot videos. End of story.Then why did they show the D700 for that advertisement?
And I agree with you Photosguy, We don't need a duel use camera and it would make it easy for anyone too shoot a photograph you know what I'm saying?
Colorblinded
21st of October 2008 (Tue), 10:31
Then why did they show the D700 for that advertisement?
No idea, I didn't see what you're talking about. Is this something during the show or a Nikon ad?
And I agree with you Photosguy, We don't need a duel use camera and it would make it easy for anyone too shoot a photograph you know what I'm saying?
I don't really know what you're saying.
Still, what's wrong with adding more functionality to the cameras? Video mode at this point given the technology makes sense and harms nothing.
DerekRob
21st of October 2008 (Tue), 10:33
No idea, I didn't see what you're talking about. Is this something during the show or a Nikon ad?
I don't really know what you're saying.
Still, what's wrong with adding more functionality to the cameras? Video mode at this point given the technology makes sense and harms nothing.It's like the old saying, You buy a still camera to shoot stills not movies.
You buy a movie camera to shoot your family video's or what ever so buy a movie camera. Oh Emrphien, it was a Nikon advertisement during a telly show.
Mike
21st of October 2008 (Tue), 10:40
The "movie modes on a dslr - good or bad" was discussed in depth about a month or so ago over on the EOS Camera forum when they were first announced.
DerekRob
21st of October 2008 (Tue), 10:42
The "movie modes on a dslr - good or bad" was discussed in depth about a month or so ago over on the EOS Camera forum when they were first announced.Whats your take on it Michael?
DEMO
21st of October 2008 (Tue), 10:48
Correct its a D90 that shoots in Movie mode in the commercial, there is just a last minute appearance by the D700..
gjl711
21st of October 2008 (Tue), 10:48
The "movie modes on a dslr - good or bad" was discussed in depth about a month or so ago over on the EOS Camera forum when they were first announced.
And the debate still rages with two diametrically opposed camps. It will be interesting to see if the D90 and the 5DMkII are successful. If so I doubt we will ever see another camera put out without movie mode.
Mike
21st of October 2008 (Tue), 10:50
I'm not a fan of it. DSLR's should remain still image cameras and if I was paying good money for a DSLR i would like to know that all the effort has been made to producing as good a still camera as possible. Especially as it seems the movie mode does not seem very well supported at the moment - no autofocus during movie mode for example.
Colorblinded
21st of October 2008 (Tue), 11:19
I'm not a fan of it. DSLR's should remain still image cameras and if I was paying good money for a DSLR i would like to know that all the effort has been made to producing as good a still camera as possible. Especially as it seems the movie mode does not seem very well supported at the moment - no autofocus during movie mode for example.
I'm relatively indifferent about it. I don't think incorporating movie capability required much of a leap once Live View was common place.
Also, the 5DII does have AF during movie mode, it's contrast detect though as it would be impossible for it to use the standard AF sensor while the mirrors are up.
gjl711
21st of October 2008 (Tue), 11:26
And to finish off the trifecta, I am a fan of it especially as it is a free, software only feature and does not affect the still capabilities of the camera. Sure it is still first generation and has a way to go to become really usable but it will with each successive camera get better and by the time it makes it’s way to the xxD body cameras it will most likely rival some consumer end video only devices.
DerekRob
21st of October 2008 (Tue), 11:50
Correct its a D90 that shoots in Movie mode in the commercial, there is just a last minute appearance by the D700..Thanks Demo, I wonder why they did the switch at the end?
Is the D700 selling well or not selling well?
justincase724
21st of October 2008 (Tue), 13:18
I wasn't interested at all in the video mode on the Nikon, and I wasn't too interested in it when Canon announced it. But after seeing some of the video samples (though none have been on a "production" model) I am quite blown away by the possibilities this opens up. What consumer video camera gives you the shallow depth of field and bokeh of a 50mm 1.2L lens? How about the creativity of a tilt-shift lens, or a macro lens?
I (used to) agree that you buy a camera to take pictures. If you want to record a video of something, get a camcorder. But the 5dmkII is first and foremost a still camera. All it needed was a few more tweaks to allow it to record video, and with Nikon being the first to go that route, it would have been a mistake for Canon to not address it. Just because it's there doesn't mean you have to use it, and compared to the price that the original 5d was first released at, you aren't paying anything extra for this video mode on the new 5d.
egordon99
21st of October 2008 (Tue), 14:40
The D700 cannot shoot movies.
egordon99
21st of October 2008 (Tue), 14:45
I think the D700 is selling very well. It's a nice camera. A local shooter I meet up with every now and then has a D3 and it does high ISO VERY well.
As for the "movie mode", it's NOT a replacement for your little camcorder/whatever. It is an inexpensive way to shoot SD (D90) or HD (5DII) video with a LARGE sensor and interchangeable lenses. Most camcorders (even the very expensive ones) have MUCH smaller sensors, so don't do very well in low light and have problems getting shallow DOF or ultra-wide-angle.
And it really is not that big of deal for them to implement once they have LiveView working, as they pretty much just capture the LiveView feed. Don't want to shoot high-quality "movie like" video clips? Then don't....I don't use LiveView, but I don't sit there and complain about it being on my two bodies (just like I don't use those silly scene modes)
René Damkot
21st of October 2008 (Tue), 15:47
The D700 cannot shoot movies.
Not by default, but who knows: It might be possible... After all, a Dutch guy got a 40D to record (very low res) "movies" in live view: Click (http://tweakers.net/nieuws/55847/tweaker-schrijft-code-die-filmmogelijkheid-canon-eos-40d-ontsluit.html) (sorry, page is in dutch)
Colorblinded
21st of October 2008 (Tue), 17:00
Not by default, but who knows: It might be possible... After all, a Dutch guy got a 40D to record (very low res) "movies" in live view: Click (http://tweakers.net/nieuws/55847/tweaker-schrijft-code-die-filmmogelijkheid-canon-eos-40d-ontsluit.html) (sorry, page is in dutch)
Agreed, I wouldn't be surprised if it could be added in via firmware updates, but at least for the time being it doesn't.
gooble
23rd of October 2008 (Thu), 04:54
As others have said the D700 does not shoot video and there is a whole Digital Video Thread in the forums for that topic.
As for the luddites that almost vehemently oppose video in their DSLR, it does not diminish the still image capabilities in the least so I find the resistance to it really, really strange and pointless. And the 5D mark II may arguably be one of the best low-light capable digital video cameras that there is, according to Vincent Laforet, and it is arguably equal in image quality to cameras that cost $15-$100 thousand dollars for a mere $2700.
cdifoto
23rd of October 2008 (Thu), 05:26
A feature isn't cool until a 1 series has it. Until then, it's absurdly consumeristicified.
argyle
24th of October 2008 (Fri), 07:40
It's like the old saying, You buy a still camera to shoot stills not movies.
Why not? After all, some video cameras shoot stills. Nothing wrong with a *dual* use camera. The feature is there if you need it...if not, then you don't use it, or better yet, buy a different model. I'm sure that Canon put a lot of research into the decision...if they didn't think that it would sell, they most likely would have dropped the idea. Considering that 5DII pre-orders are off the charts, it doesn't appear that this feature is stopping folks from getting their names on the list.
jon.t.
24th of October 2008 (Fri), 21:55
Would be somethin if Nikon choose to update the D700 firmware allowing for movie mode. Might push Canon off it's arse and start offering software only features through firmware upgrades. I know a few 40D owners that would love to see micro-focus adjustments, and it would be so ease for Canon to do it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the "video mode" use a second sensor? If not the viewfinder could not work in video mode.
gary88
24th of October 2008 (Fri), 22:08
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the "video mode" use a second sensor? If not the viewfinder could not work in video mode.
That's why you view everything with live view :)
I'm personally looking forward to shooting video with the 5D Mark II. Just another creative medium I get to explore. The DOF you get from a 35mm sensor looks unbelievable in video and should be fun to experiment with.
DerekRob
24th of October 2008 (Fri), 22:10
That's why you view everything with live view :)
I'm personally looking forward to shooting video with the 5D Mark II. Just another creative medium I get to explore. The DOF you get from a 35mm sensor looks unbelievable in video and should be fun to experiment with.Live view is very disappointing, So I don't use it any more.
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