Koni Challenge at Mosport

[Not4you]

I am learning the technique of highlighting colour in B&W images so I went back to some images I took this summer at the Koni Challenge at Mosport, Canada. C&C welcome.

1.
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/Not-4-you/KoniChallenge-Mosport134BWnC1copy1.jpg

2.
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/Not-4-you/KoniChallenge-Mosport223BWnC8x10.jpg

3.
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/Not-4-you/KoniChallenge-Mosport242BW.jpg

[willy b]

Like the second shot!

[Jamie Holladay]

I like the perspective in the second shot & I like the compostion of the third shot. I don't think the selective color works in Motorsports though. B/W conversion works well for older model cars but not so much for modern vehicles. I'd be interesed in seeing the colored versions.

[Not4you]

Here are the original images. In the 3rd I cloned out some people in the bg. Turns out that it was another POTN member that I removed!!!

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/Not-4-you/KoniChallenge-Mosport134.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/Not-4-you/KoniChallenge-Mosport223.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/Not-4-you/KoniChallenge-Mosport242.jpg

and here are some other threads that I posted from the same day at Mosport ...

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=520226

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=520224

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=520223

[Jamie Holladay]

May I try a crop on the second one? You do have IE ok on but I always ask anyway.

[Not4you]

yeah, sure thing. I'm happy your interested.

[Jamie Holladay]

Just my take on the image:

[PhotosGuy]

Just my take on the image: I agree with that. Less (in the image) is more as far as keeping attention on the subject over the environment.
Here's a couple of B&W film shots as an example:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/PhotosGuy/Samples%20-%20Rides/RA-F1-rain_01.jpg?t=1225375452

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/PhotosGuy/Forum%20Junk/Road-Atlanta_01.jpg?t=1225375619

[Not4you]

I love what you did (and have done something similar now with it too) and I agree less "can be" more. However, I feel some shots do need some more in them. For example, this is a pic I took that same day, and IMO the best shot I have taken to date - but I do wish I had used less zoom at the time to capture more of the track around the car and to perhaps emphasize just how close to the wall the car is at the time of the slide (just a few feet from the rear bumper) ...

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/Not-4-you/KoniChallenge-Mosport442small.jpg

I guess cropping can be quite helpful but I am still nieve enough to think that I can get it right everytime looking through the lens - at least that's what I'm still striving to do ...

[Jamie Holladay]

That shot is a bit tight IMO as you say. But tight shots are not bad. I just think at this point on the track you would have wanted a little wider. Maybe show us where the car came from.

It should always be your goal to get the framing right in camera and only crop to straighten horizons or make small adjustments. But that does not always happen. Keep at it!

[Borbor]

I agree with that. Less (in the image) is more as far as keeping attention on the subject over the environment.
Here's a couple of B&W film shots as an example:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/PhotosGuy/Samples%20-%20Rides/RA-F1-rain_01.jpg?t=1225375452

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/PhotosGuy/Forum%20Junk/Road-Atlanta_01.jpg?t=1225375619

I don't think it was a case of "less is more"; it was instead of having it middle frame, Jaime turned it bottom frame and gave the car more room to go. The original crop with all that dead pavement behind the car doesn't serve a helluva lot of purpose.

[PhotosGuy]

I don't think it was a case of "less is more"; That comment referred to the links in my post, as well as Not4you's first two shots. Too much real estate in a racing shot is just boring, IMO. Now, if there'd been 20 cars in the first two shots, that's another situation.

[Not4you]

the new crop on #2 I like. I do like my original #1 though as I felt (when taking the pic) that even though the car was going 150+ km/h, it looked so sad and lonely all alone on such a wide open track.

thanks for all the tips and comments, it helps a lot!!