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BPL
27th of October 2008 (Mon), 09:57
I'm shooting my first wedding January 25th for a friend. I will primarily use the Sigma 24-70 f 2.8 EX DG on my 30D. For my zoom I'll use the Canon 70-200 f4L. Will I need the extra power of the 580 over the 430 when using the 70-200 f4? I haven't seen the room setup yet. They also aren't getting married in a church so light won't be an issue. I'm probably just looking for an excuse to get the 580 to use as a slave to the 430 for future use. The wedding would be a great excuse to convince my wife I need it LOL. Suggestions?

viet
27th of October 2008 (Mon), 10:50
I'm shooting my first wedding January 25th for a friend. I will primarily use the Sigma 24-70 f 2.8 EX DG on my 30D. For my zoom I'll use the Canon 70-200 f4L. Will I need the extra power of the 580 over the 430 when using the 70-200 f4? I haven't seen the room setup yet. They also aren't getting married in a church so light won't be an issue. I'm probably just looking for an excuse to get the 580 to use as a slave to the 430 for future use. The wedding would be a great excuse to convince my wife I need it LOL. Suggestions?

I know you need an excuse to get it so tell your wife that our patron saint Murphy said that you need a backup for everything you do at a wedding. So, a flash (580Ex I or II), another body & a kit lens for backup is a must.

On a serious note, your 430ex can probably crank out enough power at the long end of your 70-200 at F4 if you are willing to shoot high ISO, so you don't really need the 580 for it. But if you shoot weddings, as I said above, you need a backup set.

If I remember correctly, you can only use the 580 as the master, and the 430 slave, not the other way around.

NoelM
27th of October 2008 (Mon), 13:46
Check out my gallery, www.noelmphoto.com/liezl , used a 24-70, and 70-200 2.8 on a stroboframe flash bracket and a 430ex flash gun. I think that the 430 is more than enough in most cases. the room was about 40ft x 40ft.

collierportraits
27th of October 2008 (Mon), 13:59
ABSOLUTELY! You NEED it! ;)

(But more as a backup than the extra power. The 430 is fine...)

BPL
27th of October 2008 (Mon), 14:03
Thanks for all the advice! Yeah, I'm getting it. Always need a backup, didn't think of that reason. :)

Nicole Faith
27th of October 2008 (Mon), 18:25
I used just my 430EX for a few weddings and recently bought the 530EX II - you can tell the power difference and it is a huge improvement. I would suggest it. I now use the 430EX mounted with an umbrella.

BPL
27th of October 2008 (Mon), 19:41
I used just my 430EX for a few weddings and recently bought the 530EX II - you can tell the power difference and it is a huge improvement. I would suggest it. I now use the 430EX mounted with an umbrella.
Thanks Nicole! Another good reason to buy the 580 :)

Sylvester XxX
29th of October 2008 (Wed), 08:27
you also get shorter recycle times and you gain off camera light options with the 580 II as master . I'm sure the batteries last longer also.

BPL
2nd of November 2008 (Sun), 19:08
I ordered the 580 EX II from B&H, it gets here Wednesday! Can't wait to try it out with the 430EX as a slave.

poloman
4th of November 2008 (Tue), 20:30
I rented one that arrived today as back up for my 430...
I really like it. Nice, powerful unit. Check out the added features.

BPL
4th of November 2008 (Tue), 21:17
The 580 EX II came today. All I can say is "WOW!!!!" Great build quality, many advanced features and I love the slave/ master ability to use my 430 EX with. I have no regrets buying this. I guess the old saying is true. "You get what you pay for".