Sunny Football game but LOTS of noise C+C please

[artra]

I took this pics about two days ago.
Sunny day, lots of action, playoffs and unfortunately LOTS of noise.
Can anyone tell me the reason???

http://www.flickr.com/photos/20886214@N05/2988710763/in/photostream/

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/20886214@N05/2988710763/" title="IMG_0248 by arturo., on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3244/2988710763_e8153b6fb2.jpg" width="333" height="500" alt="IMG_0248" /></a>



http://www.flickr.com/photos/20886214@N05/2988710889/in/photostream/

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/20886214@N05/2988710889/" title="IMG_0213 by arturo., on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3140/2988710889_2063d91578.jpg" width="334" height="500" alt="IMG_0213" /></a>

[Dan-o]

Pictures would be nice. If you under expose you will still see noise.

[canonnoob]

no photos....

[artra]

Here are the metadata for each.

pic #1 (kicking)
Ap f/8
Shut S. 1/750
ISO 500
Flash 16

pic #2 (running)
Ap 6.7
Sh 1/750
ISO 500
flash 16

[canonnoob]

flash 16? what do you mean by that? Im confused...,

but as far as the photos go... You shot with the sun behind you. What did you shoot these with?

[Woogie]

I'm curious as to why you chose to stop the lens down so much? f/8 and f/6.7 (according to the EXIF you posted).

[artra]

Canon 40d.
Im not sure if I had the hotshoe flash on or not, but "flash: 16" was part of the pic info; maybe is not relevant.

[artra]

I'm curious as to why you chose to stop the lens down so much? f/8 and f/6.7 (according to the EXIF you posted).

I was shooting on Tv priority. Maybe that's why I got f/8 f/6.7

[Dan-]

For sunny weather, go manual set AWB, F4, 1600, iso400, set contrast to -1 , which should play well with white. If that's too bright, drop the ISO. If it's underexposed, drop your shutter speed to 1250 or 1000.

[artra]

For sunny weather, go manual set AWB, F4, 1600, iso400, set contrast to -1 , which should play well with white. If that's too bright, drop the ISO. If it's underexposed, drop your shutter speed to 1250 or 1000.

Thanks Dan !!!

[hprebel311]

you shot into the sun. put it at your back and put your iso as low as you can to reduce graininess.

[HighPixel]

Looks like you're fighting yourself...in sunlight, you have all the light you'll ever need!So your ss should be no slower than 1/1000th...there's no need for it. Open you aperture as far as possible. ISO is to be set as low that will still keep from underexposure. WB set to the sun setting.(One less thing for the camera to figure out.)
Shoot away!
Good Luck!
HP

[artra]

you shot into the sun. put it at your back and put your iso as low as you can to reduce graininess.

I guess I didn't think ISO 500 was high enough to get all those grains in a sunny day...

[artra]

Looks like you're fighting yourself...in sunlight, you have all the light you'll ever need!So your ss should be no slower than 1/1000th...there's no need for it. Open you aperture as far as possible. ISO is to be set as low that will still keep from underexposure. WB set to the sun setting.(One less thing for the camera to figure out.)
Shoot away!
Good Luck!
HP

I guess everyone agrees to low ISO (less than 500) / Hight SS (over 1000)...

[Sledhed]

Arta - Where they underexposed and you lightened them in PS? That will bring out the noise. ISO 500 on a 40D should produce clean files. Shoot in AV, set your lens as wide open as possible and use the ISO to get desired SS. You might have to dial in some exposure compensation. I shoot into the sun all the time, sometimes you have no choice, you just have to learn how to set your your camera to do it.

Dublin, GA? I have a lot of relatives there.

[artra]

Arta - Where they underexposed and you lightened them in PS? That will bring out the noise. ISO 500 on a 40D should produce clean files. Shoot in AV, set your lens as wide open as possible and use the ISO to get desired SS. You might have to dial in some exposure compensation. I shoot into the sun all the time, sometimes you have no choice, you just have to learn how to set your your camera to do it.

Dublin, GA? I have a lot of relatives there.

Yes, I lightened up some with PS. I guess that didn't help either. Im trying to upload the master images but it's giving me an error.
Anyways, it's a small world after all :)
I'm not originally from Dublin (Im from the Dominican Republic) but I've been here for a little over a year and we love it.
I'm working as the youth pastor at first united methodist. :)))

[gooble]

Arta - Where they underexposed and you lightened them in PS? That will bring out the noise. ISO 500 on a 40D should produce clean files. Shoot in AV, set your lens as wide open as possible and use the ISO to get desired SS. You might have to dial in some exposure compensation. I shoot into the sun all the time, sometimes you have no choice, you just have to learn how to set your your camera to do it.

Dublin, GA? I have a lot of relatives there.

While you'd think that as ISO goes up noise should rise in a linear fashion it's not true. Don't know where to find it now but there has to be a thread on this and I've read about it elsewhere on the internet, but tests done show that a third stop down from full stops has less noise than the third stop below that. For instance (and I'm writing this from memory so I may not be completely right) the ISO values from lowest noise to highest would be something like this: 100,160,120,200,320,250,400,640,500,800,1280,1000, 1600.

So basically you could have gotten less noise by going to ISO 640 instead of 500. My experience seems to bear this out so I try not to use the third stop ISO up from the whole stops.

You shot facing the sun and it looks like you underexposed and brightened the image in post which makes noise appear in shadows.

[artra]

thank y'all for your advise :)

[shannyD]

i think between your iso being so high. and it looking like they are backlit. did you try bumping up the exposure in photoshop? ( or whatever editing program you use?)

i have noticed that i will get noticable noise in those kinds of conditions as well.

shan

[Dan-o]

^^ look up two posts ^^