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NewOwn
31st of October 2008 (Fri), 20:23
Is there any way to let the 5D Mark II use some kind of camcorders lenses?
I really want something like the SGpro!
If you have no Idea about what is the SGpro, here is a video explain everything.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqcqFz4byas
Thanks.

echo
31st of October 2008 (Fri), 21:15
That's pretty poor video quality so am confused about what you're after. Camcorder lenses are not as good as any L unless we're talking mega bucks.

davidfig
31st of October 2008 (Fri), 23:07
Why use lenses made for small sensors! When you can use lenses made for big sensors?

Seems like going backwards to me.

NewOwn
1st of November 2008 (Sat), 11:16
I know but why there isn't any lens for the DSLRs to make such a good bokeh for the background like the SGPRO lens do for the camcorders?
I am getting a 50mm f/1.4 which makes the background blurry but not as good as the SGPRO!?

Livinthalife
1st of November 2008 (Sat), 11:21
I know but why there isn't any lens for the DSLRs to make such a good bokeh for the background like the SGPRO lens do for the camcorders?
I am getting a 50mm f/1.4 which makes the background blurry but not as good as the SGPRO!?

I beg to disgree with this comment. At 1.4, the background will be completely unrecognizable. how blurry you looking for then?

This is 85 1.8
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b386/atgrzymala/IMG_8383.jpg

So 50 1.4 will definitely do this.

NewOwn
1st of November 2008 (Sat), 12:24
This is an Image! I am talking about the videos!
question: Is the lens "50mm f/1.4" gonna be able to focus on a subject moving around while capturing a video using an AutoFocus?
Exaple:
the lens is focusing on someone faraway from it by AF. You press the shutter button to shoot the video, then that someone got closer to the lens, will the focusing will still be where the first time you pressed the shutter button?

Livinthalife
1st of November 2008 (Sat), 13:10
I understand your talk about videos, but what makes you think a video will appear differently than a pictures? Your talking abotu a DSLR, right?

NewOwn
1st of November 2008 (Sat), 13:25
Yes, the 5D Mark II.
I didn't talk about any difference! I am just trying to know if the autofocus is continues while recording.?

Livinthalife
1st of November 2008 (Sat), 13:29
Well that would be a camera attribute, not a lens function. All EF and EF-S lenses have AF ability. I would assume the 5D can continually focus while recording as it would be pointless to record video if it did not focus.

NewOwn
1st of November 2008 (Sat), 13:44
Thanks a lot Livinthalife ;)
I am sorry for making some troubles! :D

NewOwn
1st of November 2008 (Sat), 13:48
Just want to say that my Powershot G9 can't do that thing so I thought all the other cameras "not camcorders" does the same thing.
I was wrong then.
Thanks.

Livinthalife
1st of November 2008 (Sat), 14:00
No problem. We have a little Olympus P&S and in video, it does focus, not well, and doesn't produce the results you are looking for, but it does focus. You getting the 5D?

NewOwn
1st of November 2008 (Sat), 14:46
Yes I am :D and I will get the 50mm f/1.4 at first... three months later I will get a Canon EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L...

gooble
2nd of November 2008 (Sun), 01:02
Well that would be a camera attribute, not a lens function. All EF and EF-S lenses have AF ability. I would assume the 5D can continually focus while recording as it would be pointless to record video if it did not focus.

While the 5D II can AF during video recording the 5D II manual on page 123 states: "Autofocusing during movie shooting is not recommended since it might momentarily throw the focus way off or change the exposure. If the AF mode has been set to [Quick mode], AF is not possible even if you press the <AF-ON> button during movie shooting."

If you want to accurately pull focus while shooting movies you're gonna have to get a camera rig like the ones in this thread: http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=577597

This thread made me chuckle I have to admit. The whole point of using video on a DSLR is to get the great narrow DOF and bokeh with DSLR lenses, which will rival anything you can get on any camcorder.

NewOwn
2nd of November 2008 (Sun), 05:24
It is quite big! is it expensive?
actually, Canon should add this feature [video autofoucs = on/off] which I think it is much useful instead of nothing!
there is still some time til the 5D release, why don't they add it?

osv
2nd of November 2008 (Sun), 18:25
The whole point of using video on a DSLR is to get the great narrow DOF and bokeh with DSLR lenses, which will rival anything you can get on any camcorder.

at the expense of being stuck with an un-motorized lens that will not hold focus throughout the zoom range, like a real video camera lens does.

newown, you'd better do some testing of your own before spending the big bucks... if you have any need for professional zoom capability, the current incarnation of the 5d would probably be the wrong choice.

gooble
3rd of November 2008 (Mon), 01:16
It is quite big! is it expensive?
actually, Canon should add this feature [video autofoucs = on/off] which I think it is much useful instead of nothing!
there is still some time til the 5D release, why don't they add it?

See for yourself: http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.472981/sc.2/category.1789/.f

They start at $2000 and go up. You could probably spend easily $3000-4000 once you get all the bells and whistles.

But let's say you spend $2700 on the camera, $3000 on a rig then $3000-$4000 for a couple zoom lenses or a couple primes or a zoom and a prime your still paying less or close to the price for the the top Canon HD cam.

NewOwn
3rd of November 2008 (Mon), 05:41
Yes you are right. If I want a good video results and many features, I should get a camcorder then. but I was thinking about getting two features in one camera :p "greedy" lol.
I want to get Canon 5D Mark II first then I will get a camcorder after few months....

Zepher
3rd of November 2008 (Mon), 10:01
You are supposed to shoot with manual focus with a camcorder.
A lot of consumer camcorders lack manual focus or the control for manual focus is hard to use, like on my cheap Panasonic miniDV camera that I mount in my car for auto-x.

hitmanh
3rd of November 2008 (Mon), 10:13
at the expense of being stuck with an un-motorized lens that will not hold focus throughout the zoom range, like a real video camera lens does.

Depends on what you do, for me, primes rule.

yf920
3rd of November 2008 (Mon), 21:33
love the background music