Model Mayhem

[matthew1371]

Apparently I signed up there a few years ago but never did anything with it. Sooooo...... Finally got around to straightening out that mistake.

Here's my profile: http://www.modelmayhem.com/249104

I've already sent a few friend requests to POTN members local to me. :cool:

[williamsf1]

I have a model from MM asking about sending her the RAW files.... now what would be the best way to explain to her in an email that I don't send out RAWs to anyone...

hmmmm...

she is a good model, I just am not sure on this one! and don't want to upset/dissapoint her...

oh you can check the images here!

are any in desperate need of more editing????? :S

http://www.modelmayhem.com/804888

help ;)


any feed back would be good!

[arnie12]

She probably wants to process some pictures herself. Why not give her a few raw files of herself to practice on? I honestly don't see anything wrong with it. She should however clearly state that processing was done by herself.....

[woodsters]

Not that I really have any experience in this or anything, but what was the deal on taking the photos? Did she pay you? Was it TFP or TFCD? If you are worried that she is going to mess up the photos, then don't put your name on them. Put the ones you edit or are happy with on your port. Advise her that she can't credit you on the photo if you don't agree with her PP. She could always take a photo that you have done, whether its a RAW file or not and screw it up or change it up.

If you don't have any stipulations and/or a model release wasn't signed, I dont see a problem with it.

[shaktipalooza]

My MM ==> Large Life Photography (http://www.modelmayhem.com/largelifephotography)

Handing over RAW files??? I'm amazed someone would have the nerve to ask. The most I'll do is give them access to a processed JPG, depending on my relationship with the model.

Generally I've had good luck with models respecting my images and giving credit but there have been times where I had to remind them. I recently had a model take a good image and hand it over to some hack photoshop guy.

His 'retouching' was a joke. Thanks for reminding me, now I need to go compose an email...

[Jon Foster]

My shots, my RAW files. Nobody gets them unless I was paid to take shots and turn them over as is.

Jon.

[ZSutton]

My shots, my RAW files. Nobody gets them unless I was paid to take shots and turn them over as is.

Jon.
Thats how my work is too..mine.

I'd never consider giving up my RAWs without a nice price attached to them

[bad karma]

MM pages in signature :)

[shuedini]

I'm kind of new to this whole thing. But I started a Model Mayhem account the other day. Feel free to check it out and add me as a buddy if you'd like:

http://www.modelmayhem.com/1219058

Let me know what you think of my stuff so far. :D

[woodsters]

very nice shue...sent you a friend request..

[arnie12]

Added a picture for you enjoyment. There are no naughty bits visible....

[wcphoto]

Just joined! FR welcome, fellow POTN-ers!

http://www.modelmayhem.com/wcphotonet

[johngalt_ny]

I'm there also and FRs are always welcome from POTN.

http://www.modelmayhem.com/1047224

I'm also on a newer, smaller site called ModelBrigade.com if anybody wants to check it out. Fewer members and less action but a growing site.

http://www.modelbrigade.com/115028

[fullpotential]

Hi everyone. I am new here and new to MM. Check out my page HERE (http://www.modelmayhem.com/fullpotential) and let me know what you think. I would appreciate any FRs.

Any photographers in the bay area that want to talk shop or do some work together let me know.

And of course i am always looking for models.

-Best

[Chosenbydestiny]

MM pages in signature :)


ditto

[MagicallyDelicious]

added u...NAIC Photography

[Chosenbydestiny]

I'm on there there.

Woohoo, go San Francisco!

[Yogue]

Here's mine. Send me friend requests if you want, just mention that you are from POTN.

http://www.modelmayhem.com/758486

[harroz]

ah!, you're on here too!! legend! MM pages in signature :)

[cookey]

I have my first shoot with a model Tuesday & another Wednesday,hope they show lol

http://www.modelmayhem.com/1021107

[hawk911]

yeah- good luck on that. Half of my scheduled shoots ended in zero shutter clicks.

[harroz]

aw comon hawk, everyone has a different experience. I haven't had a nogo yet, and Im way out in the middle of no where;)

Have fun Cookey!

[alessandro2009]

I have many questions relative to Model Mayhem.

Why is the much required to USA users of the forum?

In general I would like to know how you found with this service, I guess good considering the many users.
Are the models available for shot with non-professional photograph?

Are the much photograph or much model on that site?

In general how much paid for the rent for a shooting in studio?

[Jon Foster]

MM is a free service so I'm sure that's the reason it's so popular. It also requires no real proof that you are a photographer, model or make-up artist etc. Having said that, you will find all kinds of people there. Some good to work with and some not so good to work with. I'm finding it to be a bit of a pain now and I've only had an account there for a few months.

Jon.

[alessandro2009]

...
I'm finding it to be a bit of a pain now and I've only had an account there for a few months.

Jon.

What's the problem?
Is it relative that service?

[hawk911]

aw comon hawk, everyone has a different experience. I haven't had a nogo yet, and Im way out in the middle of no where;)

Have fun Cookey!

obviously we're on different skill levels :confused: At my level, they don't have any remorse for cancelling on me.

[alessandro2009]

hawk911 if are you interested (and you can pay for that), have you tried to see in these forum if there are some users with studio next to you that organize an event with models?

[hawk911]

There's a few around here, but with the schedule I have, I'm only shooting 2x a month if that. It's frustrating at times, when they cancel, but I live with it. The local workshops are always over $100, and I have $0 in my budget to shoot. I don't want to rely on a workshop to shoot; hopefully my work and final product are good enough to get me models without them being "chained down", so to speak.

[alessandro2009]

In this case you might try to convince some relative or some pretty friend.

Another option is to participate on some public events.

But clearly in this case, considering the crowds and the lack of possibility of movement, everything becomes much more difficult, but perhaps some portrait can pull it off.

Good luck. ;)

[johngalt_ny]

Hawk,

I'm an amateur and I get a fair number of no responses on Mayhem. However, three out of four models have shown up for TFCD sessions and theyw were pretty happy. I ask them to tag me saying they were happy with the shoot and that makes it easier to be taken more seriously by other models.

Just a thought that may help a bit.

Good luck.

[hawk911]

well, I have limitations, and it seems the ladies all want to take the clothes off, not keep it on. :eek: I don't push it much, and only shoot TF 2x a month .

[cookey]

Well I had my first shoot with models for TFP/TFCD the past 2 days.First one at least rang me up telling me she was running late but at least turned up (1 hour late).

Second turned up with her partner looking for a couple shoot,which I knew nothing about.

At least I got to practice my photography & the first model after seeing a few pictures wants to do another shoot in 2 weeks time doing japanese anime theme with 5 costumes.Had to google what that was lol.

Should be an interesting shoot.

[harroz]

It's a hard life that one Hawk;)

well, I have limitations, and it seems the ladies all want to take the clothes off, not keep it on. :eek: I don't push it much, and only shoot TF 2x a month .

[harroz]

good on you, thats great. Although I probably wouldn't have shot the couple, thats plain wrong and cheeky!
Well I had my first shoot with models for TFP/TFCD the past 2 days.First one at least rang me up telling me she was running late but at least turned up (1 hour late).

Second turned up with her partner looking for a couple shoot,which I knew nothing about.

At least I got to practice my photography & the first model after seeing a few pictures wants to do another shoot in 2 weeks time doing japanese anime theme with 5 costumes.Had to google what that was lol.

Should be an interesting shoot.

[hawk911]

It's a hard life that one Hawk;)

It seems my limitations might hamper my scheduling the better models. I hope that's not the case. We can still create some great images :confused:

[mrbojangles13]

here i are
http://www.modelmayhem.com/noker

[DozerLYP]

Here's mine again
http://www.modelmayhem.com/claudephoto

[HMetal]

Ray Akey / Luminescent Memories Photography.

http://www.modelmayhem.com/rakey

[siddr20]

I just signed up, but since i havnt done any glamour shots i cant upload anything and get my account activated :(

Hoping to find some friends to model for me soon and go from there and enter this field of photography!!

[inthedeck]

I just signed up, but since i havnt done any glamour shots i cant upload anything and get my account activated :(

Hoping to find some friends to model for me soon and go from there and enter this field of photography!!

Contact a couple of your friendly photog. friends in the area, and allow them to let you shoot a few shots. You'll be good to go. ;)

[Jon Foster]

Try a few self portraits as well.

Jon.

[DarksideTi]

I started out with some of my um... "Dancer" friends, I did quite a few TFCD sessions with them, the major advantage was, since at that time I didn't have much experience shooting models, those girls were already comfortable in front of the camera, and they know how to pose and move. Since they are friends, that put less pressure on me as well.

My MM account link is in my sig below. :D

[siddr20]

Im in the process of finding some friends to help me out. Hopefully the photoshoots turn out good.. Thanks for the advice too and from others :) Ta!!

[hawk911]

hehe- who ever said they had to be good pictures to get approved on Mayhem?

[Jon Foster]

hehe- who ever said they had to be good pictures to get approved on Mayhem?

:p

Jon.

[siddr20]

hahah well i uploaded some which arent really glamour.. but atleast i got my account activated now!!
Time to find some models and start shooting and having some fun!!

Mine is: http://www.modelmayhem.com/sidd

ta

[reneethomas]

I am on there. Took a year to find any models to work with and get approved but I am now there http://www.modelmayhem.com/siriusimagery

[Todd Lambert]

Not sure if I want to be actually... maybe I should just to be on there?

[reneethomas]

Not sure if I want to be actually... maybe I should just to be on there?

So far I am having horrible luck getting "models" to show up. I am about to post a vent about my MM experience so far.

[DarksideTi]

So far I am having horrible luck getting "models" to show up. I am about to post a vent about my MM experience so far.

VERY common in the MM world. Having a model "Flake" is one of the risks of shooting models. Granted, there are ways to minimize it. :)

[arnie12]

VERY common in the MM world. Having a model "Flake" is one of the risks of shooting models. Granted, there are ways to minimize it. :)
I find that calling a model using an old-fashioned telephone makes an appointment much more real than the exchange of some messages can make it to be. I always ask for their number and call, even if only to exchange some things....

[DarksideTi]

I find that calling a model using an old-fashioned telephone makes an appointment much more real than the exchange of some messages can make it to be. I always ask for their number and call, even if only to exchange some things....

Same here. I also set up a "Meet up" before hand to discuss the shoot at a Starbucks or something, if they flake out on that....theres not much hope, but at least I didn't spend a bunch of time setting up and prepping.

[Mark_Cohran]

Same here. I also set up a "Meet up" before hand to discuss the shoot at a Starbucks or something, if they flake out on that....theres not much hope, but at least I didn't spend a bunch of time setting up and prepping.

The same here - before I actually schedule a shoot with a model (other than a referral from another model I trust), I get a phone number, set up a pre-meeting, get a shoot commitment, followup with an e-mail recapping what we discussed (theme, costs, location, date, time, etc.) and then send a reminder e-mail at least a day in advance of the shoot. So far, it seems to be working.

[Jon Foster]

I complain a lot about the MM Flakes but don't forget, 99% of the models on MM are not really models. But I guess that's true of the photographers there as well so...

Jon.

[veronephoto]

www.modelmayhem.com/vstudio

[arnie12]

I complain a lot about the MM Flakes but don't forget, 99% of the models on MM are not really models. But I guess that's true of the photographers there as well so...

Jon.
That's true, but it doesn't mean you're allowed to flake. ;)

[DozerLYP]

I'm on there too ;)

[jgoodstein]

I'm on there too ;)


I just friend requested you btw...

Here's mine for any interested........1014556

[arnie12]

I'm on there too ;)
Really? :lol::p

[Tommy]

I'm on there... #722886 :D

[lens pirate]

Here is my mm url guys. I could use some friends and feel free to critque my images.

http://www.modelmayhem.com/JamesSnaps (http://www.modelmayhem.com/JamesSnaps)

[rodal126]

my attempt at shooting models.

http://www.modelmayhem.com/rodneyalan

[johngalt_ny]

Just an update to balance out.

After a long coldspell of "no responders" which really had me frosted, I've been in contact with 5 who did answer and may actually get 2-3 shoots out of the 5. Then again, I just sent real live proposed dates to them all, so we'll see how many disappear.:roll:

I also was so impressed by one model who doesn't do TFP that I hired her for a paid session. She responded to my TFCD offer with a very polite refusal (I have no problem with that). She's drop dead gorgeous and seems like a doll. It will cost me about the same as a group shoot but I'll have her all to myself and I think it will be well worth the expense to improve my portfolio. After all, we all spend money on this hobby.

[DozerLYP]

So may I ask how much she charged you? Just to get an idea.

[alsoscott]

Just throwing my MM out there as well - I JUST started it a few weeks ago so I have no friends yet :oops:
http://modelmayhem.com/alsoscott

[dugcross]

Might as well throw mine out there. I just got my account approved a few days ago.

http://www.modelmayhem.com/dougcross

[zap800]

well I have been on it since 2008 but I have only been active for around 4 months. I really dont have high expectations but if it works out then fantastic. If not, oh well.

http://www.modelmayhem.com/GMphotos

[woomahodal]

Just joined this week, looking for friends from POTN

http://www.modelmayhem.com/matthewwoolly

[arnie12]

Just joined this week, looking for friends from POTN

http://www.modelmayhem.com/matthewwoolly
Just approved your friend request. Wish you success in MM! The one model that flaked on me came from MM, though....

[woomahodal]

Just approved your friend request. Wish you success in MM! The one model that flaked on me came from MM, though....

thanks! yeah, we'll see. I won't get my hopes up about anything, but the concept is really cool at least...

[johngalt_ny]

Just so you know it can happen, I'm on a minor hot streak with 4 shoots in 10 days, all off Mayhem. If they all show, I'll have a lot of PP to do.

Of course, that's after 2 months of no responses and flakes so stay with it.

[Jon Foster]

I think I got caught up with everyone...

[Joseph Garza]

http://www.modelmayhem.com/213050
I've been there for a day or 2 ;)

[iBeauty Photography]

http://www.modelmayhem.com/272309

Inner Beauty Photography

[DozerLYP]

Here, I made this for my profile, and if you need it you can use it.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n56/dozerlyp/Untitled-1-132.jpg

[shooter75]

I avoid MM like the plague, its only cool if you are an amateur and just need some random girl to stand in front of your camera. Having said that, I would offer some advice to some in here whos profiles I have looked at. If you are making it known you dont do trade and you want to be paid, you need to think about who you are marketing to.

Most of the profiles I see have half naked or flat out naked girls in very provocative poses shot in a very amateur style. Thats all fine and good if your target audience is 18-35 year old MALES. Most women will find that trashy and some downright degrading, they will never pay to be shot like that or they will flake on you if they do happen to book you. Try making your portfolio attractive to WOMEN, you know, the ones you want to pay your rates...

[johngalt_ny]

Most of the profiles I see have half naked or flat out naked girls in very provocative poses shot in a very amateur style. Thats all fine and good if your target audience is 18-35 year old MALES. Most women will find that trashy and some downright degrading, they will never pay to be shot like that or they will flake on you if they do happen to book you. Try making your portfolio attractive to WOMEN, you know, the ones you want to pay your rates...


Let me second shooter's advice.

I'm a hobbyist doing TFP outdoor, natural light stuff right now. My port on MM is all non-nude. However, I wasn't doing well at getting models to shoot.

I asked a pro model with whom I've become friendly to make suggestions from my galleries. She was nice enough to say " Get rid of that" and "Put that one in". Since then my percentage of acceptances has at least doubled and three have actually even show up to shoot. That's after two solid months of either no responses or total flakes. Obviously, my model friend knows what other models want to see.

I find that we often aim our stuff at other photographers but that's not the target market. I want to work with models, not other photographers. I've redone my port with that in mind.

[shaktipalooza]

I avoid MM like the plague, its only cool if you are an amateur and just need some random girl to stand in front of your camera.
While there are plenty of GWCs on that site, you will also find very high end pros who are willing to share ideas and talk about the industry. On that front it's far more useful than this site.


Most of the profiles I see have half naked or flat out naked girls in very provocative poses shot in a very amateur style. Thats all fine and good if your target audience is 18-35 year old MALES.
The same could be said about most of the images in this forum.


Most women will find that trashy and some downright degrading, they will never pay to be shot like that or they will flake on you if they do happen to book you. Try making your portfolio attractive to WOMEN, you know, the ones you want to pay your rates...

Agree with you on the first part. However, MM really shouldn't be looked at as a revenue stream or you'll go broke. MM is a FANTASTIC site for networking and breaking into shooting models. It's up to the user to make it worthwhile.

Nearly all of the models on my web site are from MM. Many of them have gone on to sign with agencies. One recently walked a runway for Gucci and another flew out to meet with Ford modeling in NYC. I'm often approached by agency models for test shoots. Little more than a year ago I'd never shot a model.

If you are having difficulties finding quality models I suggest that rather than blame the site, look at your own portfolio and reassess your work.

[Tomi Hawk]

I avoid MM like the plague, its only cool if you are an amateur and just need some random girl to stand in front of your camera....
Hmm yeah, I guess thats why people like Ken Marcus hang out there ..
Yawwwn ..

:rolleyes:

[shooter75]

If you are having difficulties finding quality models I suggest that rather than blame the site, look at your own portfolio and reassess your work.

Thanks but I have zero problems getting models. I have an agent who works all that out anyways, I hardly even deal with models until i show up to the set. Even then, they are pro models from agencies, not college kids and waitresses playing model on the weekend like the girls on MM. So its night and day difference from what you are used to I am sure. On the rare occasion I do book a model myself who needs her portfolio updated, shes not from a site like MM ;)

[Moppie]

I avoid MM like the plague,....

So your basing your advice about it on what?? :rolleyes::rolleyes:


There are some very talented and creative people in the world and MM is a great way for them to meet, network, and create fantastic pieces of work.

[shooter75]

So your basing your advice about it on what?? :rolleyes::rolleyes:


There are some very talented and creative people in the world and MM is a great way for them to meet, network, and create fantastic pieces of work.

I am basing it on the fact that its basically a Myspace for amateur models and photographers. I can guarantee you that 99% of the quality pros on there are just on there to promote themselves, they dont actually book work with anyone from that site. Its not a bad idea since MM is the 1,120th raked site on the net for traffic, lots of people looking at it, they just dont work with anyone on it.

[Moppie]

I am basing it on the fact that its basically a Myspace for amateur models and photographers.


So you have nothing rational based on real experiance to offer then? :rolleyes:

[shaktipalooza]

Thanks but I have zero problems getting models. I have an agent who works all that out anyways, I hardly even deal with models until i show up to the set. Even then, they are pro models from agencies, not college kids and waitresses playing model on the weekend like the girls on MM. So its night and day difference from what you are used to I am sure. On the rare occasion I do book a model myself who needs her portfolio updated, shes not from a site like MM ;)

MM is beneath you. I get that.

For the rest of us who don't start our careers shooting for Vogue or having access to agency models, MM is a fantastic resource. Mileage may vary.

[Mark_Cohran]

I am basing it on the fact that its basically a Myspace for amateur models and photographers. I can guarantee you that 99% of the quality pros on there are just on there to promote themselves, they dont actually book work with anyone from that site. Its not a bad idea since MM is the 1,120th raked site on the net for traffic, lots of people looking at it, they just dont work with anyone on it.


Hmmm, let me see, just in these past 6 weeks I've shot with, I think, 8 models from Model Mayhem. The one no show I've had in that time was not from Model Mayhem.

As with any site, your results may differ, but you're making blanket statements and representing them as facts when in reality, it's merely your opinion.

[Mark1]

Hmm yeah, I guess thats why people like Ken Marcus hang out there ..
Yawwwn ..

:rolleyes:

JoeyL, Robert Alvarado, Steven Eastwood, several playboy "regulars",......

While there are a ton of nobodys -- what else can you expect from a free site with all but no vetting-- there are also some from the top of the industry. In short, it is what you make of it. You just have to realize what it really is, and you then know how to work it.

[mrfixitx]

I just got approved today. http://www.modelmayhem.com/322957

[Jon Foster]

JoeyL, Robert Alvarado, Steven Eastwood, several playboy "regulars",......


Robert Alvarado has some of the best shots I've seen. His work is generally described with single word compositions. Wicked, killer, awesome, fantastic, amazing, incredible and speechless to list a few.

Jon.

[DozerLYP]

Wow, thanks for pointing him out, Robert Alvarado does have some great stuff and very inspirational.

[andrepaul]

Joined MM few months ago. . .here's my link. http://www.modelmayhem.com/1214086

[alessandro2009]

I think MM is interesting despite, unfortunately, is too USA centric so for European is more difficult use it for shoot.
In case of TFCD perhaps is better change the word difficult with almost impossible ...
However is possible learn and obtain many ideas simply see many good shoot.

[Mike Ben]

http://www.modelmayhem.com/660740

mine. MM seems like it's for hobbyist and networking. There are pro models / photog / mUA but more hobbyist (wanna be models, hobbyist togs, starting out MUA) than pro. However, they are there to get experience and why not use them. Watch out for flakes!

[ZSutton]

MM seems like it's for hobbyist and networking. There are pro models / photog / mUA but more hobbyist (wanna be models, hobbyist togs, starting out MUA) than pro. However, they are there to get experience and why not use them. Watch out for flakes!

I would disagree with that entirely. Sure there are alot of amateurs on there, but some of the best are there aswell.

[shaktipalooza]

Here's are some proofs from a shoot with a model from MM that I shot this morning and a couple of days ago.

http://www.largelifephotography.com/photos/678817220_EyS8E-L.jpg

http://www.largelifephotography.com/photos/678567186_newZg-X2.jpg

http://www.largelifephotography.com/photos/675747914_mt7VV-L.jpg

http://www.largelifephotography.com/photos/675784218_xdhFx-L.jpg

http://www.largelifephotography.com/photos/675771656_4qiq7-L.jpg

[ZSutton]

Here's are some proofs from a shoot with a model from MM that I shot this morning and a couple of days ago.



Beautiful model!

[Cosha]

Im not really a fan of tattos but i actualy like the one on her arm ;)

I like the 2 swimming ones very much

[stm77k9]

new member
modelmayhem.com/malczewski (http://modelmayhem.com/malczewski)

[lens pirate]

Recently updated with 100 pics and 7 models.(100 percent nude too)

Could always use some SF Bay Area down through Salinas Friends.

http://www.modelmayhem.com/JamesSnaps

[JoeyBowman]

http://www.modelmayhem.com/315397


We recently got sick of using Model Mayhem but kept the account just in case we might actually meet a model that is serious about doing some work. We wasted our time too many times booking shoots just to have some one cancel an hour or two before the shoot or have a family member (or pet) die the day before.

[Jonathan Taylor]

oh hell...why not:

www.modelmayhem.com/jonathantaylor

and the real thing:

www.jonathan-taylor-photography.com

[trancerem]

quite nice site layout jonathan ...

[sleeper31]

Im on as well...

http://www.modelmayhem.com/zzzphotos

[gamblinmat]

New here... hello everybody.

http://www.modelmayhem.com/1449276

http://www.lancehardyphotography.com

[Jonathan Taylor]

quite nice site layout jonathan ...

ultra delayed response, but thank you! means a lot, truly!

[veronephoto]

If you have a chance I highly recommend working with Iris :) Shot this at a ranch in Meniffee
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2687/4164863329_3302b98ba4_b.jpg
Here's one from not too long ago of another Fave....Katie
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2618/4154370343_b0a7c92599_o.jpg

[ashleykaryl]

As far as I am concerned 99% of the girls there are not real models and I can't use them for any serious work. I did use MM to locate a model for one specific project last year and ended up wasting a huge amount of time before I found someone suitable. Model agencies exist with real models so that is my preferred route every time.

[Moppie]

As far as I am concerned 99% of the girls there are not real models and I can't use them for any serious work. I did use MM to locate a model for one specific project last year and ended up wasting a huge amount of time before I found someone suitable. Model agencies exist with real models so that is my preferred route every time.

I don't know anyone who uses MM for serious commercial work, and anyone who expected to picked up for serious commercial work by being listed on MM is most likely dreaming.

What it is great for though is introducing creative and artistic people to each other so they can work together "collaborate" and create things.
It also gets used by models and and photographers to make a bit of money on the side, supporting people who like to model or take pictures as a hobby.

[oziking]

i am not able to signup or create account there
it waits for approval and not letting me in on MM
can anyone who has a valid account help me
i wanna contact someone there
plz PM me if u can :(

[Moppie]

i am not able to signup or create account there
it waits for approval and not letting me in on MM
can anyone who has a valid account help me
i wanna contact someone there
plz PM me if u can :(


I shot a model on Sunday who was unable to sign up either.
They run an automated bit of software, if it detects anything even slightly different from the norm it will reject your attempt to join.
Check, then double check your following all of the directions exactly, and if that doesn't work you can try contacting a site admin through the MM website.

But there is not much we can do to help, POTN and MM have nothing to do with each other :cool:

[hawk911]

As a photog, i had to pretest my decline. I was told they decline photogs to keep out the GWC, and then manually approve them. That was 2 yrs ago, though.

[johngalt_ny]

As an alternative, you might take a look at modelinsider.com

It's WAY smaller than Mayhem and needs more models but the people are really nice and the forums less inclined to flame wars.

[Dmao]

I just got approved by the website. I registered on Monday (25th) and got approved Wednesday night (27th), so it shouldn't take long.

I'm glad my the pictures from my first photo shoot ever got me accepted, but I looked at some random profiles and they don't really have the highest standards so that doesn't mean much...lol
(There are many amazing profiles there though)

I just want to use the site to network and to improve my photography. Whether it's by using the 'models' for shoots or by looking at others as motivation/inspiration on what I want to become. Hell, I've only had my camera for a month and would probably consider myself as a GWC, hahaa.

Link in the signature.

[tonyniev]

I misread the instructions and posted landscapes for photos was rejected. I then some snapshots of the family, same way rejected...I wonder how do I get model shots before to join this model mayhem? any tips to ensure acceptance. What kinds of photos are they looking to get accepted?

[PrimePhotographer]

They should turn MM into a dating site instead; they could make a fortune on banner advertizing etc. lol

[Omaru]

I got rejected twice before I got in. Looks like the one who checked my application didn't like my stuff so I did a photoshoot then got good images to present and there, finally got accepted.

[PrimePhotographer]

How do you do a photo shoot if you can’t get onto MM to find a model to work with. It's a hilarious catch 22.

[Dmao]

How do you do a photo shoot if you can’t get onto MM to find a model to work with. It's a hilarious catch 22.

You don't have to use 'models'. Just find someone (friend, family, random person, etc...) and just pose them in model type shots. Just browsing, I've seen people who are accepted through webcam type pics in their room...


Feel free to add me guys.

[PrimePhotographer]

I have no friends or family so I can take photos of my dog?

[XoZe]

I have no friends or family so I can take photos of my dog?

yes, take pictures of your dog. Just make sure it is posing like a model.:rolleyes:

[PrimePhotographer]

http://www.dogtipper.com/celebrity-canines/uploaded_images/FP_3813459_BARM_Hachiko_Film_101609-744111.jpg

I guess I could crop the man out.

MOD Reminder: If it's not your photo, don't embed it - link to it instead.

[mcluckie]

I don't know anyone who uses MM for serious commercial work, and anyone who expected to picked up for serious commercial work by being listed on MM is most likely dreaming.
I do MM just as a place to web-store my nudes. The age limits are good — I don't need my young daughters going to my general web sites and seeing adult stuff. Also, I've gotten a number of models to pose for trade there.

I had no problem getting approved.

I guess I could crop the man out.

Crop the whole picture out. Whats the point? Gere with trees growing from his back? What crap

[PrimePhotographer]

Crop the whole picture out. Whats the point? Gere with trees growing from his back? What crap

The point was it was a joke related to an earlier post, and those are not trees they are jeans on legs which should be photoshop removed obviously.

:rolleyes:

[Omaru]

How do you do a photo shoot if you can’t get onto MM to find a model to work with. It's a hilarious catch 22.

I asked a friend to "model" for me. Also there other ways to get people to model for you for free you know. Like craigslist, I used that before and was able to book 3 models for free!

[Dmao]

yes, take pictures of your dog. Just make sure it is posing like a model.:rolleyes:

lol...

[veronephoto]

there are some interesting models.......today on a shoot with one of my buds.......the model that showed up asked to be carried over the rocks.......very rocky for about an 1/8th of a mile. while carrying a vagabond/ her duffel/ and an octobox

[charlesu]

there are some interesting models.......today on a shoot with one of my buds.......the model that showed up asked to be carried over the rocks.......very rocky for about an 1/8th of a mile. while carrying a vagabond/ her duffel/ and an octobox

Love it. Had a prima donna ask to be carried from boat to shore on a nude beach shoot. The other model carried her.

[Dmao]

Lol, then there's tons of models who claim to be 'experienced' or very 'experienced' and expect to be paid while their portfolio is filled with pictures of themselves in their bedroom taken with a p&s or webcam. So far since I've joined, I've found the site can be a little bit entertaining though lol.

[M_ark]

Love it. Had a prima donna ask to be carried from boat to shore on a nude beach shoot. The other model carried her.

haha, only wish you had proof (a picture...) hope she didn't get her toes wet!
I generally have good experiences shooting models off MM, but so far i've not been shooting for clients, just myself. (portfolio work)
here's one from a recent shoot (3 days ago)

[PrimaPhoto]

Model Mayhem is a great resource. I live in northern Ontario so we do not have the population like the southern part of the province. Many models found me thru MM and quite surprised.

I am a big fan of MM but not worth $100 bucks a year.

My best model who found me on MM

http://primaveraphoto.com/modelgalleries/galleries/Ashley/img23.jpg
http://primaveraphoto.com/modelgalleries/models.php?gallery=Ashley&image=img24.jpg

[Jonathan Taylor]

My best model who found me on MM
http://primaveraphoto.com/modelgalleries/models.php?gallery=Ashley&image=img24.jpg

MM number? she's incredible!

~Jonathan
#548217

[PrimaPhoto]

She is Mayhem #1216213
My new project http://www.modeling.primaveraphoto.com

My infrared work - Mayhem #510166
My color work - Mayhem #55364

[thierrydehove]

Just added you as a Friend, I like this site.. found nice models.. my first one http://www.thierrydehove.com/2010/02/07/olena-markel/ ;-)

[Dropbear]

Love it. Had a prima donna ask to be carried from boat to shore on a nude beach shoot. The other model carried her.


wow.. if a lady asked me to carry her from a boat to shore, I would .. model or not ..

[IUnknown]

Why doesn't MM have some kind of reputation system? Is that something that is offered on other sites? Would be nice to get everyone's feedback to see which flake.

[hawk911]

Why doesn't MM have some kind of reputation system? Is that something that is offered on other sites? Would be nice to get everyone's feedback to see which flake.

instant feud between he said/she said...dollars to donuts!

[JoeyBowman]

Why doesn't MM have some kind of reputation system? Is that something that is offered on other sites? Would be nice to get everyone's feedback to see which flake.

After being on there for several years it is becoming obvious to me which models are flakes and which ones are not. Though it can still be frustrating when some one does flake.

[elipkin]

I have had pretty decent luck with MM so far. Shot with half-dozen models and no flakes. What I had aplenty is models disappearing after wanting to shoot, but never getting to setting up a date. I had a 50 message exchange with one never getting to a date/time, I got tired of that and dropped that conversation.

[johngalt_ny]

I have had pretty decent luck with MM so far. Shot with half-dozen models and no flakes. What I had aplenty is models disappearing after wanting to shoot, but never getting to setting up a date. I had a 50 message exchange with one never getting to a date/time, I got tired of that and dropped that conversation.


This x 10. I call them "ozones".

[helloagain36]

I am sure that this has been discussed before, but how many people schedule to meet up for coffee or something with a model before actually doing a shoot? I feel like I will be able to get better results if there isn't that whole "we just met and don't really know each other" awkwardness.

[thierrydehove]

Hi, each time I prefer to meet them before to eventually do some images after...
I need it... just to feel this model and check what he/she really wants to do...

[Jonathan Taylor]

I am sure that this has been discussed before, but how many people schedule to meet up for coffee or something with a model before actually doing a shoot? I feel like I will be able to get better results if there isn't that whole "we just met and don't really know each other" awkwardness.

If they live within 30 miles of me, I require it. If not, no shoot.

I tell them that it's so we can meet and eliminate that awkwardness, as well as being able to swap ideas a bit better. I insist on meeting at somewhere with wifi (panera, starbucks, whatever) and I bring my laptop to browse examples and gain inspiration.

While that is a good part of the reason that I insist on meeting, the primary goal is: If they flake/cancel last minute/are obnoxiously late, they lose any and all chance at a shoot, and I make sure that all of my photography buddies, and their buddies, hear about it. Of course, I dont actually tell the model that beforehand, because then she would try harder to control the outcome. But I always tell them after the meetup (or if they flake). My theory, I'd rather them flake on coffee rather than flake when I had to take off work, or rent extra studio space, or borrow equipment, or travel to a location.

Just my 2 cents. Hope it serves as a guideline for other mayhem togs as well...

[thierrydehove]

Agree with Jonathan...

[Stuart Leslie]

I just joined MM hoping to get a wider range of models since my family and friends are getting a little tired of my requests!

Would appreciate it if any of you want to "friend me" and help me get started.

Thanks!

Mayhem #1598944

[alsoscott]

I just joined MM hoping to get a wider range of models since my family and friends are getting a little tired of my requests!

Would appreciate it if any of you want to "friend me" and help me get started.

Thanks!

Mayhem #1598944


Sent a FR your way!

[Stuart Leslie]

Sent a FR your way!
Thanks Scott!

[c_boogie]

I just joined MM hoping to get a wider range of models since my family and friends are getting a little tired of my requests!

Would appreciate it if any of you want to "friend me" and help me get started.

Thanks!

Mayhem #1598944

sent one too!

[colormaniac]

I just found this thread, after many frustrating experiences with MM (partly described here (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=724819), too). Since there are too many pages, I started reading from p. 26 on.

I joined MM last summer when I started getting serious with my DSLR camera. I like pictures of beautiful women. As I'm a student, I took many pictures of students on campus and then I became active in contacting MM models. However, overall it not was successful.

As a freelance, I usually don't seek those models who look like very professional and ask for pay. They probably don't care any TF from me. But then, I have very few to choose from. And they are idiosyncratic. Many of them won't come unless I have very interesting ideas. But what is "interesting"? Who knows? And why amateur models, or just girls who don't expect to have a model career, are so picky?

Then there was a girl who appeared to be eager to shoot, having an appointment scheduled, only to dump you without a word right after she finds a better photographer.

Then there was a girl who scheduled an appointment with me. Everything went OK until suddenly she claimed to be sick a few days before that. And then she is sick forever.

Another girl was excited and asked me to call her. After the call, I sent an email to confirm. Then she suddenly replied the email, saying that she was not willing to pose nude. She knew from the very beginning that I was asking for swimsuit modeling. How ridiculous!

This week is the worst. A girl who posed a little with another model for me before said she's OK to have an outdoor photoshoot this Wednesday. We were still exchanging emails on Monday. But then she stood me up. All the calls were unanswered. And she didn't even care to reply the calls or email afterwards.

In the begginning of this week, I cast an availability call on MM, saying that I really want to take pictures this week as it's spring break and a model flaked on me. A model responded. Though she lived far away and I have to pay for her gas cost, I was still willing to do so because I had no one to shoot. So, we scheduled an outdoor photoshoot today. She was still exchanging emails to me yesterday. She asked me to call her this morning to confirm. But then she didn't answer the call this monring. I thought she might be travelling. I didn't know what to do. If I didn't show up but she did, she would be mad for travelling so much for nothing. If I show up but she didn't, I got annoyed once again. Being too kind, I chose to do the latter, and got disappointed. I am still hoping that she would get back to me giving me a reasonable explanation.


Another thing I don't understand is that so many models post sexy swimsuit or lingerie pictures in their portfolio but when I asked them to pose in swimsuit, they didn't reply at all. There was a time I asked a model who claimed to like shoes to pose with various shoes and boots, showing her sexy legs. And she didn't reply.


I do, though, have 3 successful shooting with MM models since last summer. But that seems to be too few. MM is full of silly and irresponsible people. Too bad, I have recently acquired so much camera and lighting gear only to find out that I am not going to use it very often. :(


My MM page: http://www.modelmayhem.com/1296180

[JoeyBowman]

I just found this thread, after many frustrating experiences with MM (partly described here (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=724819), too). Since there are too many pages, I started reading from p. 26 on.

I joined MM last summer when I started getting serious with my DSLR camera. I like pictures of beautiful women. As I'm a student, I took many pictures of students on campus and then I became active in contacting MM models. However, overall it not was successful.

As a freelance, I usually don't seek those models who look like very professional and ask for pay. They probably don't care any TF from me. But then, I have very few to choose from. And they are idiosyncratic. Many of them won't come unless I have very interesting ideas. But what is "interesting"? Who knows? And why amateur models, or just girls who don't expect to have a model career, are so picky?

Then there was a girl who appeared to be eager to shoot, having an appointment scheduled, only to dump you without a word right after she finds a better photographer.

Then there was a girl who scheduled an appointment with me. Everything went OK until suddenly she claimed to be sick a few days before that. And then she is sick forever.

Another girl was excited and asked me to call her. After the call, I sent an email to confirm. Then she suddenly replied the email, saying that she was not willing to pose nude. She knew from the very beginning that I was asking for swimsuit modeling. How ridiculous!

This week is the worst. A girl who posed a little with another model for me before said she's OK to have an outdoor photoshoot this Wednesday. We were still exchanging emails on Monday. But then she stood me up. All the calls were unanswered. And she didn't even care to reply the calls or email afterwards.

In the begginning of this week, I cast an availability call on MM, saying that I really want to take pictures this week as it's spring break and a model flaked on me. A model responded. Though she lived far away and I have to pay for her gas cost, I was still willing to do so because I had no one to shoot. So, we scheduled an outdoor photoshoot today. She was still exchanging emails to me yesterday. She asked me to call her this morning to confirm. But then she didn't answer the call this monring. I thought she might be travelling. I didn't know what to do. If I didn't show up but she did, she would be mad for travelling so much for nothing. If I show up but she didn't, I got annoyed once again. Being too kind, I chose to do the latter, and got disappointed. I am still hoping that she would get back to me giving me a reasonable explanation.


Another thing I don't understand is that so many models post sexy swimsuit or lingerie pictures in their portfolio but when I asked them to pose in swimsuit, they didn't reply at all. There was a time I asked a model who claimed to like shoes to pose with various shoes and boots, showing her sexy legs. And she didn't reply.


I do, though, have 3 successful shooting with MM models since last summer. But that seems to be too few. MM is full of silly and irresponsible people. Too bad, I have recently acquired so much camera and lighting gear only to find out that I am not going to use it very often. :(


My MM page: http://www.modelmayhem.com/1296180

I think this is a fairly good review of Model Mayhem and similar to my experiences of the years. Except I have found that grand parents and pets are prone to die the day before a shoot.

Over time you begin to know which ones will do this and which ones won't.

[colormaniac]

I think this is a fairly good review of Model Mayhem and similar to my experiences of the years. Except I have found that grand parents and pets are prone to die the day before a shoot.

Over time you begin to know which ones will do this and which ones won't.
Joey, thank for the MM friend request and the response here! I am located in Bloomington IN. The city is so small that I probably can stop shooting models now, because I tried out most of them. (By "most of them" I don't count those who look very professional or very much into gory erotic type, which I don't want to do.)

Oh, there is one more frustrating thing about models. Serious models or not, I find that most models know nothing about posing. There are books on posing but they don't read them. Many of them think that they are just pretty or handsome and that's it. After 15 minutes they are standing in the studio not knowing what to do. I usually have to keep a lot of downloaded pictures from the internet and show them how other people pose.



Since I'm on campus, I have taken pictures for many students. Yet there is a difficulty. If I ask for just $2-3 per JPG file they would like to keep, it's already "too expensive" that they won't come. If I say it's free, there are many free-riders coming unprepared. And usually they won't be willing to let me try out what I would like to do.

Sometimes I get so frustrated that I really would like to sell away all my lighting equipment and only keep minimal camera gear.

[jimmywires]

great.. I've got a casting call on MM for a bike shoot in April date is still open. the guy who owns the bike lives in Georgia but brings the bike here to Yorktown to show it off at the Harley dealership and look after this mother. (such a good boy) he will be back here in April mid to late April. also got with my son to look for a few more models in his face book page and have two more local girls. i plan to have a meet up, a week before the shoot and see who shows up. i think i have all my bases covered but my luck this shoot will **** the bed..lol
this bike is an 80k show bike lots of chrome any suggestions what to look out for?