RED drops a bombshell

[danir.photography]

The RED DSMC System has been announed. Highly configurable, can be set up as SLR or motion picture camera using either Canon or Nikon mounts.

Scary awesome (http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/13/reds-digital-still-and-motion-camera-system-now-official/).

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image: engadget.com

[symes]

wow...

[Twisted Image]

damn...

[FlyingPhotog]

Hmmmm...

Maybe if I sell all my current gear, I might be able to afford a Canon lens mount for this.

(I think dSLR users can sitll sleep comfortably)

[appleguy]

What about the 261 Megapixel 28K Epic Camera takes movies and stills.
A steal at $55'000.
Beats the hasselblad for rez and price.

[_aravena]

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So what's the range? Who can I snipe? Smaller RPG perhaps? Oh wait, this is a camera!?! Geez!

[darosk]

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So what's the range? Who can I snipe? Smaller RPG perhaps? Oh wait, this is a camera!?! Geez!
:lol:

Are they that shiny in real life? They look rather gaudy.

[Scott McLoud]

What about the 261 Megapixel 28K Epic Camera takes movies and stills.
A steal at $55'000.
Beats the hasselblad for rez and price.
What about quality? Will it beat the H3D on quality? (plus the H3D is cheaper than that by nearly £10k)

[MrChad]

Will RED Scarlet/Epic auto-focus with Canon lenses attached? If not the system is darn near worthless to me, because I have little use for a 12,000.00 MF camera at this time. Let alone a 12,000 camera and a need for new lenses.

I'm also not crazy about the EVF system.

[Jim G]

I'd like to see how much a total working system would end up costing but it's a brilliant idea. Choice of Nikon or Canon lenses.... :D

[shooter mcgavin]

The idea is excellent, but I will be much more excited when someone implements this same sort of "custom camera" idea at the consumer level...or at least sub $10,000

[Kruzkal]

Fantastic spec! But a but tad towards cumbersome IMO. Customisability and compactness don't mix too well.

[Mark1]

The idea is excellent, but I will be much more excited when someone implements this same sort of "custom camera" idea at the consumer level...or at least sub $10,000


A basic form is said to be about $3500

[Colorblinded]

I'll believe it when I see a real one, and results and can try one.

[Ultimate CC]

i like where this is heading...

[_aravena]

This si just the beginning. RED's DSLR killer is suppose to be reveled in the Fall '09.

[DC Fan]

Has anyone checked Red's record in producing and delivering promised products? Have they ever come within a year of making a completed camera available from the promised release date?

[randomlinh]

Has anyone checked Red's record in producing and delivering promised products? Have they ever come within a year of making a completed camera available from the promised release date?
aren't there cameras out there now in use?

Also, this is really cool, but still a video camera that takes (potentially) some kick ass stills. Not a threat to SLR's.

If they have something to compete directly coming, I'd be surprised if they announce it now, given they have a lot to live up to already. Not that I wouldn't welcome some competition, but not getting my hopes up.

[Colorblinded]

I've been discussing this with other people since they were announced almost a week ago and for the most part I don't think they're going to pose much threat to Canon and Nikon and the others, the prices make them rather uncompetitive and we still know nothing of their still performance. We'll just hear grandiose claims for probably a year before seeing much of anything.

[FlyingPhotog]

I've been discussing this with other people since they were announced almost a week ago and for the most part I don't think they're going to pose much thread to Canon and Nikon and the others, the prices make the rather uncompetitive and we still no nothing of their still performance. We'll just hear grandiose claims for probably a year before seeing much of anything.

The first thing RED needs to do (to hook dSLR users) is to come up with some kind of configuration that doesn't require a $25,000 fluid head and a $5,000 set of sticks (video slang for tripod.)

I've yet to see any lashup that is more SLR and less video camera...

[Colorblinded]

I'm amused by the three really silly typos I just caught in the post of mine you quoted FlyingPhotog. Can't find any more now, but I'm even more tired now than I was then!

[ironbelle]

x2 with flyingphotog. The camera RED video camera body is about 17,000 but you still need a lens, and other things(rail system I believe) so by the time you have a "working" RED system, your at 25-30,000.

[bad karma]

Hey what did you do with my legos!

[FlyingPhotog]

Hey, a modular system would be the Mutts Nutz but not yet ... not yet...

[naqs]

A basic form is said to be about $3500

$2500 Actually... and that is just for the brain (sensor) then you have to buy the lens, recorder, view piece basically the list can go on as long as you want.

[thrash_273]

bottomline is almost everyone can't afford this thing. but sure it's sweet.

[janvm]

Acoording to gizmodo, they'll even drop a bigger bombshell on dec 3... Think the CEO said on their forum that the november announcement was peanuts compared to dec 3...

[Colorblinded]

Acoording to gizmodo, they'll even drop a bigger bombshell on dec 3... Think the CEO said on their forum that the november announcement was peanuts compared to dec 3...
They give me giggles.

[therealmr]

$2500 Actually... and that is just for the brain (sensor) then you have to buy the lens, recorder, view piece basically the list can go on as long as you want.

Just like the RED, it's advertised base price is nothing to what you end up spending once you get all the optional (but frankly, necessary) accessory options. Need a battery? Tack on another 500. Etc.

[Sean]

I'd like to see this actually make it to market. They don't even have a prototype.

[saiminyaku]

if RED finally pulls this off, hopefully the performance rises above that of the daunting track record of the RED One.

the modularity of this system reminds of the SIG SAUER P250 modular pistol system. it may sound somewhat off topic but here's the jist:

capable of switching calibers by replace the barrel and slide shaft from 9mm, .357 SIG, and .40 S&W. with replacing the frame, you can take the modularity further a round like .45 APC
multiple grips available
multiple frames available
two triggers available with different reset lengths and overall length
one serial numberthis gun is by no means new, it came out in late '07 and saw a face-lift in '08 and the modularity promised has still hardly seen any face and what has been found are overpriced "caliber conversion kits" and not even all calibers are available and said aren't due to be until spring of '09 or even fall of that same year.

almost three years after launch, they have pushed back the date season after season while spending more and more money on advertisements with the selling point being it's modularity.

in short, i hope RED doesn't follow this path.

i also hope the lowest priced body is at 2K res -- then i would retire my XH-A1 and obsess over the infinite possibilities of how i can make rig "right for me."

a cost analyst would probably tell me to start saving now.

[Karl Johnston]

The bottom line is correct; Nobody, sure as hell not me, can afford this thing. 55 000 $ for a 617 BRAIN?

Ouch, that's a brand new toyota tacoma and then a ford f150! LOL

Still one hell of a machine though ! I can't afford a ferrari but I love mystifying over them =)