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dilorenzo1954
14th of November 2009 (Sat), 20:55
Thanks Monty! I love your droplet in SMWYG;)
lavanut
14th of November 2009 (Sat), 21:14
Caterpillar under a Leaf
406991
Maureen Souza
14th of November 2009 (Sat), 21:15
Cool Drake photo, Ed!!
Maureen Souza
14th of November 2009 (Sat), 21:17
Left Bend
dilorenzo1954
14th of November 2009 (Sat), 21:20
Cool Drake photo, Ed!!
Thanks Mo! It's actually supposed to be Sir Francis Walsingham, a contemporay of Drake (I needed that "D";))
Bent Branch
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2445/4087922591_76f2042231_b_d.jpg
Skrim17
14th of November 2009 (Sat), 21:42
bowling boy
http://skarimbas.smugmug.com/photos/700145493_Jqgjq-L.jpg
lavanut
14th of November 2009 (Sat), 22:03
Bathroom outdoors
407001
Roy Mathers
15th of November 2009 (Sun), 05:36
True Love :-)
I love that shot Neil.
Roy Mathers
15th of November 2009 (Sun), 05:37
Bathroom outdoors
407001
It must be a very small bath!:D
Joelene
15th of November 2009 (Sun), 11:02
"O M G"!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3533/3266911004_b4954410b1.jpg
can I get away with that? hehe
Roy Mathers
15th of November 2009 (Sun), 11:31
Golden temple.
Flo
15th of November 2009 (Sun), 12:20
What fabulous photos!
Tumultuous Sky
http://macymae.smugmug.com/Landscapes/Pipers-Lagoon-Seaside/IMG4837/711546257_bCXsg-L.jpg
4hero
15th of November 2009 (Sun), 13:29
That's a big word for a sunday night Flo :D
Stylish Haircut
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2615/3818443634_7f891f4db5_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/4hero/3818443634/in/set-72157622001335032/)
Joelene
15th of November 2009 (Sun), 13:40
Hedley's Shoes
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3080/2396987175_2ba5bd84aa.jpg
Maureen Souza
15th of November 2009 (Sun), 17:39
Silly Brides
Flo
16th of November 2009 (Mon), 09:54
That's a big word for a sunday night Flo :D
Don't think it was easy Neil:p
Backward Goose
http://macymae.smugmug.com/Nature/Misc/IMG3794/704999667_uUFFL-L.jpg
Maureen Souza
16th of November 2009 (Mon), 10:47
Gorgeous Flower
Roy Mathers
16th of November 2009 (Mon), 11:04
Fit for a king.
neil_r
16th of November 2009 (Mon), 11:28
Keeps repeating :-)
http://www.ambrosiabbs.com/gallery/photo/medium/delhi_june_06_N6H9032.jpg
-g-
16th of November 2009 (Mon), 11:43
Really would like to go to India but I'm relegated to just shooting their weddings right Now. :)
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww138/FocusPhoto/Weddings/Sunny%20and%20Gary/IMG_8178.jpg
Roy Mathers
16th of November 2009 (Mon), 11:56
So what's the title of this picture Geno?
-g-
16th of November 2009 (Mon), 11:59
So what's the title of this picture Geno?
"Really would like to go to India but I'm relegated to just shooting their weddings right Now"
Does it have to be just two words? If so, just ignore it and I'll delete the post.
Harm
16th of November 2009 (Mon), 12:38
Notice the sole guy on the left...unlucky mate!
Flo
16th of November 2009 (Mon), 14:54
How about "Religious Ceremony?
-g-
16th of November 2009 (Mon), 15:31
How about "Religious Ceremony?
Sounds good to me. Religious Ceremony it is! :)
4hero
16th of November 2009 (Mon), 16:37
City Lights
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3178/3002711839_2874c6d66e_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/4hero/3002711839/in/set-72157600168859490/)
-g-
16th of November 2009 (Mon), 16:58
Neil, where have you been for the last two years? Seems that all of a sudden you showed up with all these incredible images. :)
4hero
16th of November 2009 (Mon), 17:01
Not sure what happened Geno, lost track a bit with a few forums. Had a tough year the last year (although things are much better now, thankfully) and kinda kept my head down and got on with things. Everything is good now though, and glad to be back ;)
Joelene
16th of November 2009 (Mon), 23:09
Lovely Legs!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3495/3828701321_39669449ed.jpg
Flo
17th of November 2009 (Tue), 00:22
Neil, where have you been for the last two years? Seems that all of a sudden you showed up with all these incredible images. :)
I have been stalking Neil.....;) He has come so far from the first images.which even then were fabulous.;)
Stunning entry Neil.
Jolene!!! You know I adore your photos.........
Maureen Souza
17th of November 2009 (Tue), 00:28
Lion Yawning
4hero
17th of November 2009 (Tue), 02:21
I have been stalking Neil.....;) He has come so far from the first images.which even then were fabulous.;)
Stunning entry Neil.
Jolene!!! You know I adore your photos.........
Aww, thanks pal, big hug from me ;)
now, about your stalking...
Yee Haa :D
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/144/3778157738_749298b27e_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/4hero/3778157738/in/set-72157621912477316/)
Roy Mathers
17th of November 2009 (Tue), 04:43
Lovely Legs!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3495/3828701321_39669449ed.jpg
I think that's a wonderful picture Joelene!
squashed
17th of November 2009 (Tue), 09:03
Hairy Beast
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/squashed/Cloneofcamel1.jpg
Flo
17th of November 2009 (Tue), 10:36
Morning all!
Billowy Moss
http://macymae.smugmug.com/Other/Fish-Hatcheries/IMG4160/708060623_L9sEQ-L.jpg
Maureen Souza
17th of November 2009 (Tue), 16:51
Mexican Sage
Flo
17th of November 2009 (Tue), 16:55
Starfish Dinner
http://macymae.smugmug.com/Nature/Winged-Beasts/sfs/659670389_EQqvk-L.jpg
4hero
17th of November 2009 (Tue), 18:28
Dark Street
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2591/4080595615_efbd52b10d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/4hero/4080595615/)
Flo
17th of November 2009 (Tue), 19:08
Sorting Rabbits
http://macymae.smugmug.com/Nature/Misc/IMG3908JPG/713869920_LVyCT-L.jpg
pkwilliams
17th of November 2009 (Tue), 19:51
Rear-View Capitol
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3429/3735929718_67c0200327_b.jpg
lavanut
17th of November 2009 (Tue), 21:47
I saw this on a fence at a local park and thought it was kinda cool looking.
Coils of Man and Nature
407675
Joelene
17th of November 2009 (Tue), 22:46
Flo and Roy, thank you very much :)
Lavanut, what is that coiled around the metal? Great shot, love the contrast of man vrs wild...
Naughty Bride
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2607/4009973853_80777ebba0.jpg
lavanut
18th of November 2009 (Wed), 06:33
Lavanut, what is that coiled around the metal? Great shot, love the contrast of man vrs wild...
Thanks for the comment! I believe it's a remnant of a climbing vine that happened to wrap around the wire right next to the other coil. It just looked too cool to pass up.
Flo
18th of November 2009 (Wed), 10:16
Bad Impersonator
http://macymae.smugmug.com/Nature/Misc/IMG4591JPG/713877264_fMnrk-L.jpg
Maureen Souza
18th of November 2009 (Wed), 10:19
Interstate, Texas
Roy Mathers
18th of November 2009 (Wed), 12:02
Bad Impersonator
How can we tell from the photograph?:D
Flo
18th of November 2009 (Wed), 12:12
How can we tell from the photograph?:D
Roy, you will have to take my word for it, I couldn't get out the gate fast enough:lol:
Roy Mathers
18th of November 2009 (Wed), 13:11
Who was he impersonating?
tonylong
18th of November 2009 (Wed), 13:40
Well then, Tree in a Field
http://www.pbase.com/image/80448130.jpg
Maureen Souza
19th of November 2009 (Thu), 10:13
Funky Florals
Joelene
19th of November 2009 (Thu), 10:18
Fast Train
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3474/3944959265_0cd13cfe37.jpg
Flo
19th of November 2009 (Thu), 10:18
Who was he impersonating?
Everyone he could...in that photo it was Jack Nicholson:confused:
Two Figures
http://macymae.smugmug.com/Other/My-Smug-Mug/IMG6836JPG/718058927_WgKXN-L.jpg
Roy Mathers
19th of November 2009 (Thu), 10:45
Flightless bird
(With a fuzzy head:))
Flo
19th of November 2009 (Thu), 11:09
Backwards Hat
http://macymae.smugmug.com/Other/My-Smug-Mug/IMG7330JPG/694843153_aZeCq-L.jpg
Roy Mathers
19th of November 2009 (Thu), 11:23
Hotel room.
Flo
19th of November 2009 (Thu), 11:25
That is unique...unusual way to set the beds.
Roy Mathers
19th of November 2009 (Thu), 11:52
It was a unique hotel!
Maureen Souza
20th of November 2009 (Fri), 09:54
Ready for Christmas
Roy Mathers
20th of November 2009 (Fri), 10:03
Caught perching.
Flo
20th of November 2009 (Fri), 10:12
Morning Roy;)
Peaceful Morning
http://macymae.smugmug.com/Other/My-Smug-Mug/IMG6571JPG/718051060_NaHJj-L.jpg
Roy Mathers
20th of November 2009 (Fri), 10:16
Good afternoon Gail:)
Flo
20th of November 2009 (Fri), 10:17
Good afternoon Gail:)
I should have said that.....online you seem like you are just around the corner:D
Roy Mathers
20th of November 2009 (Fri), 10:20
Yes, you wouldn't think that there are, what, six thousand miles separating us!
Flo
20th of November 2009 (Fri), 10:54
Yes, you wouldn't think that there are, what, six thousand miles separating us!
Love the computer age.;)
4hero
20th of November 2009 (Fri), 11:51
Fast Train
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3474/3944959265_0cd13cfe37.jpg
Lovely shot!
Man Sitting
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2595/3681661994_fd90da38fe.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/4hero/3681661994/in/set-72157600704885929/)
Flo
20th of November 2009 (Fri), 11:54
Oh Neil..thats so sad^:( Fabulous photo though.
Skrim17
20th of November 2009 (Fri), 11:57
skyward steeple
http://skarimbas.smugmug.com/photos/702440330_aQw5A-L.jpg
4hero
20th of November 2009 (Fri), 12:03
Thanks Flo, I must stop and talk to him next time, was on my lunch break when I took that shot.
Sexy female (my receptionist at work :))
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3432/3197027117_4588125d7a.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/4hero/3197027117/in/set-72157600704885929/)
Flo
20th of November 2009 (Fri), 12:28
^ She looks far friendlier than your boss!:lol::lol:
-g-
20th of November 2009 (Fri), 12:29
Floating Bee
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff44/genodm/portraits/IMG_0973-Edit.jpg
Miniflash
20th of November 2009 (Fri), 17:46
BaBY Dog
http://miniflash.zenfolio.com/img/v8/p871588491-4.jpg
4hero
20th of November 2009 (Fri), 18:46
^ She looks far friendlier than your boss!:lol::lol:
She is Flo :D
Daddy Mobile
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2530/4019069341_55eee0db0a_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/4hero/4019069341/in/set-72157594585048082/)
I had to trade in my Subaru when my son came along, needed more space :(
Roy Mathers
21st of November 2009 (Sat), 11:22
Moenkopi Plateau.
lavanut
21st of November 2009 (Sat), 11:47
Past Its Prime
408361
4hero
21st of November 2009 (Sat), 12:51
Prada Top
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/183/437912431_ddf93e0beb_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/4hero/437912431/in/set-72157594584870594/)
Flo
21st of November 2009 (Sat), 13:13
Tongue Out
http://macymae.smugmug.com/Animals/Animals/IMG2470/719687298_LE5Wu-L.jpg
Joelene
21st of November 2009 (Sat), 22:28
Thank you Hero:)
Orange Tunnel.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2651/4090219834_1df67685ef.jpg
Maureen Souza
22nd of November 2009 (Sun), 01:19
Tall Trees
Skrim17
22nd of November 2009 (Sun), 08:52
testing day
http://skarimbas.smugmug.com/photos/720004876_a8GFd-XL.jpg
Roy Mathers
22nd of November 2009 (Sun), 09:33
Doorman chatting.
Skrim17
22nd of November 2009 (Sun), 09:37
catching air
http://skarimbas.smugmug.com/photos/720003387_rvfPc-XL.jpg
Roy Mathers
22nd of November 2009 (Sun), 12:36
Aerial view.
pkwilliams
22nd of November 2009 (Sun), 14:09
Very cool, Crissa & Roy!!!
Maureen Souza
22nd of November 2009 (Sun), 14:12
Very Massive
Roy Mathers
22nd of November 2009 (Sun), 14:31
Very cool, Crissa & Roy!!!
Thanks Paula!
Roy Mathers
22nd of November 2009 (Sun), 14:32
Very Massive
Kings Canyon Mo? Or Sequoia Canyon?
Maureen Souza
22nd of November 2009 (Sun), 14:34
Sequoia...we were up in the park yesterday showing the trees off to some POTN folks from Southern California.
Roy Mathers
22nd of November 2009 (Sun), 15:12
I remember, some years ago, taking a picture of my wife sitting against the General Sherman I think it was.
pkwilliams
22nd of November 2009 (Sun), 15:57
Mail for the Departed??
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2798/4125107411_7b5645587c_b.jpg
Roy Mathers
22nd of November 2009 (Sun), 16:02
Perhaps it's the last post!
Skrim17
22nd of November 2009 (Sun), 16:02
darling niece
http://skarimbas.smugmug.com/photos/720016844_BXEjX-XL.jpg
4hero
22nd of November 2009 (Sun), 17:30
Nice shot Crissa, cool lighting!
No Shoes
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2507/3817639331_2b43a7ca8e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/4hero/3817639331/in/set-72157622001335032/)
Maureen Souza
22nd of November 2009 (Sun), 18:10
I remember, some years ago, taking a picture of my wife sitting against the General Sherman I think it was.
They don't let you get near their roots anymore...when they realized how superficial they were and that people trampling on them was damaging the trees. There are still plenty of idiots who violate the rules and sneak thru the fences for a photo op.
Stupid Man
408686
Skrim17
22nd of November 2009 (Sun), 18:12
My son
http://skarimbas.smugmug.com/photos/673270064_dsDz4-XL.jpg
SheRidesABeemer
22nd of November 2009 (Sun), 20:00
Swim wear
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2645/4118975120_d0db40e933_o.jpg
Maureen Souza
22nd of November 2009 (Sun), 20:28
Wishing he would go Away
Joelene
22nd of November 2009 (Sun), 21:24
Adorable Girl.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1330/1473381459_d58ff3bb99.jpg
Miniflash
23rd of November 2009 (Mon), 08:13
Gas Pump
http://miniflash.zenfolio.com/img/v6/p861699671-5.jpg
Roy Mathers
23rd of November 2009 (Mon), 08:58
Pump for petrol;)
Skrim17
23rd of November 2009 (Mon), 09:12
purple stripes
http://skarimbas.smugmug.com/photos/719948305_2rT4v-XL.jpg
Miniflash
23rd of November 2009 (Mon), 10:29
stones for the Departed
http://miniflash.zenfolio.com/img/v1/p599907453-4.jpg
pkwilliams
23rd of November 2009 (Mon), 11:14
^^^
I love old gravestones. Of course I love them even more as a genealogy buff, but the old stones are just so fascinating to me. Now they're just so plain.
Roy Mathers
23rd of November 2009 (Mon), 11:45
Dozing in the bushes.
Maureen Souza
23rd of November 2009 (Mon), 14:08
Beach Attire
Flo
23rd of November 2009 (Mon), 14:20
Attempting a Pose:rolleyes:
http://macymae.smugmug.com/Children/Olivia-and-Riley/IMG5153/721898465_mrF4r-L.jpg
Skrim17
23rd of November 2009 (Mon), 14:41
LOL!
Skrim17
23rd of November 2009 (Mon), 14:42
Pass the ball!
http://skarimbas.smugmug.com/photos/669219666_seoSa-XL.jpg
Flo
23rd of November 2009 (Mon), 14:44
Crissa.the entire time was like that.too hilarious!
I love seeing your son in all the sports.keeps them busy...;)
Behind the Scene
http://macymae.smugmug.com/Children/Olivia-and-Riley/IMG5181/721900577_AWPxz-L.jpg
Miniflash
23rd of November 2009 (Mon), 17:20
^^^
I love old gravestones. Of course I love them even more as a genealogy buff, but the old stones are just so fascinating to me. Now they're just so plain.
Paula this place had some trealy old ones too even a metal marker first one I had ever seen
Miniflash
23rd of November 2009 (Mon), 17:21
Gail the posing shot was a riot :)
Flo
23rd of November 2009 (Mon), 17:30
Gail the posing shot was a riot :)
Deb, it was too much fun.....and the kids had fun, that was the best part....
4hero
23rd of November 2009 (Mon), 17:41
Good evening people ;)
Silver Man
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3471/3814626585_3d71c8ec9e_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/4hero/3814626585/in/set-72157622001335032/)
Skrim17
23rd of November 2009 (Mon), 18:19
mission accomplished
http://skarimbas.smugmug.com/photos/720005724_CWjF4-XL.jpg
Maureen Souza
23rd of November 2009 (Mon), 23:40
Almost Crawling
pkwilliams
24th of November 2009 (Tue), 00:49
For Deb...
Cemetery stone:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2529/4119402294_76d9d1e789_b.jpg
It's from a beautiful old historic cemetery with lots of gothic stones and beautiful views of the James River and the Richmond skyline. Two Presidents are buried there - Monroe and Tyler - along with, ahem, Jefferson Davis. We were the Capital of the Confederacy, after all, something I keep trying to forget. One of my favorite places to go photograph.
A funny story on my first visit actually yielding any photographs. My aunt was buried there, and I decided I'd try to find her first then wander about the cemetery. I'd been there at the funeral, but no other time since then. Well, I went on a cloudy Saturday, and I wandered and wandered and wandered to no avail. Determined, I went back the next day, remembering on the way there that it was the anniversary of her death. Beautiful sunny day. I went STRAIGHT to her grave. There's a legend there of a dog statue watching over a little girl's grave. I passed it and went on. I then saw a beautiful spider web on a lamp hanging above a grave, and, just beside it, another stone dog. This time I stopped. And damn if I didn't see aunt's last name right there on the stone behind the dog. Yup, it was hers. I know there's ghost stories involved with that cemetery, but this one was a happy one, guiding me right where I was supposed to go!
Joelene
24th of November 2009 (Tue), 08:35
OMG! That is just beautiful! By far the absolute best cemetery shot i have ever seen. Just beautiful.
Roy Mathers
24th of November 2009 (Tue), 09:37
Stones in the desert.
Skrim17
24th of November 2009 (Tue), 09:39
dip in the ocean
http://skarimbas.smugmug.com/Photography/Ocean-City-2008/IMG1345-2/635304439_Pbzkh-XL.jpg
Flo
24th of November 2009 (Tue), 10:33
Old Car
http://macymae.smugmug.com/Nature/Misc/IMG5446/719667169_BoEkA-L.jpg
pkwilliams
24th of November 2009 (Tue), 11:17
OMG! That is just beautiful! By far the absolute best cemetery shot i have ever seen. Just beautiful.
:o Thanks, Joelene!
Roy Mathers
24th of November 2009 (Tue), 13:40
Cattle in the road.
Back288
24th of November 2009 (Tue), 14:32
Reddish Leaves
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n233/Back288/09%20Barkhausen%20Fall/IMG_1614esc.jpg
Roy Mathers
24th of November 2009 (Tue), 14:35
Crash Gail!:D
Flo
24th of November 2009 (Tue), 14:38
Crash Gail!:D
LOL.I had my title backwards too Roy!!! Go with Mikes!!!:p
Roy Mathers
24th of November 2009 (Tue), 14:44
Thanks Gail:D
Luxury hotel.
Flo
24th of November 2009 (Tue), 14:50
Hind Sight:rolleyes:
http://macymae.smugmug.com/Nature/Misc/IMG0042JPG/719716851_meWxo-L.jpg
Roy Mathers
24th of November 2009 (Tue), 14:52
Very appropriate!
Back288
24th of November 2009 (Tue), 15:10
Simulated Motion
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n233/Back288/09%20Barkhausen%20Fall/IMG_1634esc.jpg
Skrim17
24th of November 2009 (Tue), 15:15
monster party
http://skarimbas.smugmug.com/photos/698200875_fP2gG-XL.jpg
Roy Mathers
24th of November 2009 (Tue), 15:27
Parked in the harbour.
pkwilliams
24th of November 2009 (Tue), 19:09
Mike, that thing makes me dizzy! But fabulous photo!
pkwilliams
24th of November 2009 (Tue), 19:10
Hole in the roof ;)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2781/4125067857_f4f560bcd0_b.jpg
Back288
24th of November 2009 (Tue), 19:40
Thanks Paula! and cool shot^^^
Really Big
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n233/Back288/EAA%20Airventure%2009/1c1876e4.jpg
lavanut
24th of November 2009 (Tue), 19:47
By the window
409129
pkwilliams
24th of November 2009 (Tue), 19:49
^^^^^
Awwww!!
You guys are making my heart melt with all these kitten shots! :)
Miniflash
24th of November 2009 (Tue), 20:07
Wading in Leaves
http://miniflash.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p825069074-4.jpg
Joelene
24th of November 2009 (Tue), 20:20
Loves Moments
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2176/2516409232_54c05e1e4a.jpg
Miniflash
24th of November 2009 (Tue), 20:39
Metal Muncher
http://miniflash.zenfolio.com/img/v5/p940409169-5.jpg
Roy Mathers
25th of November 2009 (Wed), 04:04
Mountain flora.
Flo
25th of November 2009 (Wed), 10:06
Fern Frond
http://macymae.smugmug.com/Flowers/Florals/IMG9639JPG/719650646_3NnAs-L.jpg
Maureen Souza
25th of November 2009 (Wed), 10:09
Found Something Hilarious ;):D
Roy Mathers
25th of November 2009 (Wed), 10:18
High tower.
Flo
25th of November 2009 (Wed), 10:26
Mo, he is just adorable!!!!!!
Afternoon Roy;)
Two Tails
http://macymae.smugmug.com/Animals/Animals/IMG5567/659676376_HZRC5-L.jpg
Roy Mathers
25th of November 2009 (Wed), 10:37
Good afternoon Gail (you remembered!:D)
Flo
25th of November 2009 (Wed), 10:54
Good afternoon Gail (you remembered!:D)
I am not just another pretty face Roy :p
Roy Mathers
25th of November 2009 (Wed), 10:55
You're not blonde are you?;)
Flo
25th of November 2009 (Wed), 10:55
You're not blonde are you?;)
Not this season...lol.....
Miniflash
25th of November 2009 (Wed), 13:55
hahaha ..Gail you crack me up!
-g-
25th of November 2009 (Wed), 13:58
Transylvanian Child
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff44/genodm/Halloween/IMG_3737.jpg
Flo
25th of November 2009 (Wed), 14:23
Clump Birch
http://macymae.smugmug.com/Flowers/Florals/IMG5010/716335287_FHTyy-L.jpg
Deb.lol.I used to be blonde in the summer, and then red in the fall.it got so whenever fall was near approaching, friends would all say" Who needs a calendar, we know by the hair color what season it is:rolleyes:
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