RIDDLES!!!

[roanjohn]

Please answer with the corresponding letters:

A: The maker doesn't want it, the buyer doesn't use it, and the user doesn't see it. What is "It"?

B: How can you physically stand behind your father while he is standing behind you?

C: What occurs once in every minute, twice in every moment yet never in a thousand years?

D: A man left home one morning. He turned right and ran straight ahead. Then he turned left. After a while he turned left again running faster then ever. Then he turned left once more and decided to go home. In the distance he saw two masked men waiting for him. Who were they?

E: Translate the following to an old English saying.
Y Y U R Y Y U B I C U R Y Y 4 ME

F: A man bought a horse for $60 and sold it for $70. Then he bought the same horse back for $80 and again sold it for $90. How much money did he make in the horse business?

G: What starts with an "e", ends with an "e" and contains only one letter?

H: I am a fire. Change one letter and I am a knife. Change another letter and I am a clearing. Change another letter and I am a rank. Change one final letter and I am a fruit. What was I and what did I become ?

I: There are 2 doors. One door leads to eternal life and one door leads to eternal death. A guard is standing in front of each door. One guard always tells the truth. The other guard always tells a lie. Without knowing which guard is the liar and which door leads to eternal life, what ONE question can you ask that will lead you to the correct door.

One more:

J: Count the number of "F" in the paragraph below:

"FINISHED FILES ARE THE RESULT OF YEARS OF SCIENTIFIC STUDY COMBINED WITH THE EXPERIENCE OF MANY YEARS"



Have fun!!!

Ro1

[BearSummer]

A , ni ydob daed a tup uoy xob eht
B , kcab ot kcab dnats rehtaf ruoy dna uoy
C , N dna L neewteb rettel eht
D , llabesab sti sseug I
E , em rof esiw oot era uoy ees I eb uoy esiw oot era uoy esiw oot
F , xat sunim srallod ytnewt
G , eye=I ro epolevne na ,dnim ot gnirps srewsna owt ,mmmh
H , eparg ot ezalb morf
I , htaed saw yas eh dluow rood hcihw dneirf ruoy ksa ot saw i fi
J , 521 fo toor ebuc eht

cool questions

Bearsummer

[Andy_T]

Respect!

You have a sharp brain ... and too much time at your hands :lol:

Best regards,
Andy

[jaypie77]

J , 521 fo toor ebuc eht

really?

[JAZZ D.P.G.]

Yes, of course.

Remember the presentation context. The number flows with the words. And if you don't agree, of course, you could be scientific and count again!

[JAZZ D.P.G.]

Roanjoan, that was fun, thanks:lol:

Bearsummer, how long did you work on that? I spent about 20 minutes and had most of those answered, but some references i didn't get. Well done.:D

[PacAce]

A: The maker doesn't want it, the buyer doesn't use it, and the user doesn't see it. What is "It"?


???? :confused:

B: How can you physically stand behind your father while he is standing behind you?

Stand back to back

C: What occurs once in every minute, twice in every moment yet never in a thousand years?

The letter M

D: A man left home one morning. He turned right and ran straight ahead. Then he turned left. After a while he turned left again running faster then ever. Then he turned left once more and decided to go home. In the distance he saw two masked men waiting for him. Who were they?

??? :confused:
E: Translate the following to an old English saying.
Y Y U R Y Y U B I C U R Y Y 4 ME
wise you are wise you be i see youare wise for me


F: A man bought a horse for $60 and sold it for $70. Then he bought the same horse back for $80 and again sold it for $90. How much money did he make in the horse business?
$20


G: What starts with an "e", ends with an "e" and contains only one letter?
envelope


H: I am a fire. Change one letter and I am a knife. Change another letter and I am a clearing. Change another letter and I am a rank. Change one final letter and I am a fruit. What was I and what did I become ?
blaze - grape


I: There are 2 doors. One door leads to eternal life and one door leads to eternal death. A guard is standing in front of each door. One guard always tells the truth. The other guard always tells a lie. Without knowing which guard is the liar and which door leads to eternal life, what ONE question can you ask that will lead you to the correct door.
"Which door will the other guard say leads to Eternal Life?" and then take the other door.

One more:

J: Count the number of "F" in the paragraph below:

"FINISHED FILES ARE THE RESULT OF YEARS OF SCIENTIFIC STUDY COMBINED WITH THE EXPERIENCE OF MANY YEARS"
6


Have fun!!!

Ro1

[charlesu]

A man stares at a picture hanging on the wall and says:

"Brothers and sisters I have none, but this man's father is my father's son."

Who is the picture of?

[Twist]

himself

[Steve Parr]

A - a coffin

D - the catcher and the umpire

Steve

[roanjohn]

Hmmm..........quite impressive..........Bear Summer got all of 'em correct!!!

:-)

Leo pretty much nailed all his answers - except for letter E.......almost there though.

And Steve got it!!!

You guys are too smart!!!

Ro1

[roanjohn]

A man stares at a picture hanging on the wall and says:

"Brothers and sisters I have none, but this man's father is my father's son."

Who is the picture of?

I know the answer.............but I'll keep other people guessing!!!:cool::p

Ro1

[cmM]

F: A man bought a horse for $60 and sold it for $70. Then he bought the same horse back for $80 and again sold it for $90. How much money did he make in the horse business?
$20


Actually, he didn't make any money on that.

He started off with $60.... so he made $10 when he sold it for $70.
Then he invested the $10 of profit to buy the horse for $80, and he made $10 by selling the horse for $90, so he broke even. :D

[roanjohn]

Actually, he didn't make any money on that.

He started off with $60.... so he made $10 when he sold it for $70.
Then he invested the $10 of profit to buy the horse for $80, and he made $10 by selling the horse for $90, so he broke even. :D

.......oh, here we go............

Some people say 30..........cuz he started with 60 and ended up with 90.....so 90-60=30!!! :twisted:

Ro1

[Belmondo]

Actually, he didn't make any money on that.

He started off with $60.... so he made $10 when he sold it for $70.
Then he invested the $10 of profit to buy the horse for $80, and he made $10 by selling the horse for $90, so he broke even. :D


No, that's wrong. Think of it as two different horses because there's a tendency to think he lost money when he bought it the second time for more than he'd sold it for. You could also say he bought two horses and sold them each for $10 more than he paid,

Another way to look at it....

If he started out with $100 in his pocket, bought the horse for $60 and sold it for $70, he'll have $110 in his pocket. If he then buys the same horse (or any horse) for $80, he's left with $30 in his pocket. When his sells it for $90, he now has $120 in his pocket. $20 profit.

[roanjohn]

OK, here is another one:

Dallas is 1,219 miles from Detroit. A train leaves Dallas going 80 mph. One leaves Detroit at the same time traveling 90 mph. Which train will be farther from Dallas when they meet??

Ro1

[Belmondo]

OK, here is another one:

Dallas is 1,219 miles from Detroit. A train leaves Dallas going 80 mph. One leaves Detroit at the same time traveling 90 mph. Which train will be farther from Dallas when they meet??

Ro1

And where do they bury the survivors? :lol: :lol: :lol:

[cmM]

No, that's wrong. Think of it as two different horses because there's a tendency to think he lost money when he bought it the second time for more than he'd sold it for. You could also say he bought two horses and sold them each for $10 more than he paid,

Another way to look at it....

If he started out with $100 in his pocket, bought the horse for $60 and sold it for $70, he'll have $110 in his pocket. If he then buys the same horse (or any horse) for $80, he's left with $30 in his pocket. When his sells it for $90, he now has $120 in his pocket. $20 profit.
Ok, but what if he started off with $60?
He buys the horse, makes $10 proffit. Then he borrows $10 to be able to afford the $80 horse (currently being $10 in deficit). He makes $10 on the second horse, pays his debt, and he breaks even.

[Belmondo]

Ok, but what if he started off with $60?
He buys the horse, makes $10 proffit. Then he borrows $10 to be able to afford the $80 horse (currently being $10 in deficit). He makes $10 on the second horse, pays his debt, and he breaks even.

He sells the horse for $90, pays back the $10 he borrowed, and now has $80.....$20 more than when he started.

BTW, borrowing money to make money is called leverage. It's done all the time, only not very often with cheap horses.

[roanjohn]

Ok, but what if he started off with $60?
He buys the horse, makes $10 proffit. Then he borrows $10 to be able to afford the $80 horse (currently being $10 in deficit). He makes $10 on the second horse, pays his debt, and he breaks even.

From your thought process, he still have the $10 profit from the initial deal.....so he really ended up with $10.

Ro1

[cmM]

He sells the horse for $90, pays back the $10 he borrowed, and now has $80.....$20 more than when he started.

Indeed, he has $20 more. But that is the exact amount of money he invests to be able to get the other horse.

[Belmondo]

Using your reasoning that somehow using borrowed money, or re-investing his profit from the first sale, affects these numbers in some way, for the sake of argument, let's say he uses only borrowed money to work this bit of high finance...

He borrows $60, buys the horse, and sells it for $70. He pays back the original $60 and now has $10 profit.

He then borrows $70, uses his $10 profit, and buys the horse back for $80. He then sells it for $90. He pays back the $70 he borrowed and is left with $20.

Regardless of how you choose to parse it, he ends up with $20 profit and no horses. In this case he did it all with borrowed money, and it didn't affect the bottom line.

Repeat after me....

Twenty Dollars
Twenty Dollars
Twenty Dollars

[cmM]

http://www.cmuntean.net/images/smilies/cya.gif



























ok, you win :p

[Belmondo]

http://www.cmuntean.net/images/smilies/cya.gif

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Whatever that means......

[roanjohn]

I think you can argue this in a different perspective:

After the intial transaction, you have $70 in your pocket......but the value of the horse went up to $80...........so you need $10 to buy the horse again - so you borrow it. When you sell the horse for $90, you end up with $10 profit...BUT, you need to use that $10 to pay your loan.........so you will end up with

NO PROFIT!!!

Remember that the value of the "same" horse went up!!!

Ro1

[cmM]

That was my reasoning....
2 agains 1
Tom's going down! :-P

j/k Belmondo

[Belmondo]

I think you can argue this in a different perspective:

After the intial transaction, you have $70 in your pocket......but the value of the horse went up to $80...........so you need $10 to buy the horse again - so you borrow it. When he sold the horse for $90, he ended up with $10 in his pocket...BUT, he needs to use that $10 to pay his loan.........so he ended up with

NO PROFIT!!!

Remember that the value of the "same" horse went up!!!

Ro1

You’re kidding, right?

When he sells the horse for $90, he has $90 in his pocket from which he pays back the borrowed $10. That leaves $80. Since he started with $60, he’s made $20.

Remember that the value of the "same" horse went up!!!

Yup. It went up $10 the first time he owned it, and another $10 the second time he owned it.

Repeat after me:
Twenty Dollars
Twenty Dollars
Twenty Dollars

The way I see it, you are either jacking me up, or you work for the IRS. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[roanjohn]

http://www.cmuntean.net/images/smilies/cya.gif

ok, you win :p

Don't give up........I actually think you are correct.

Ro1

[cmM]

The way I see it, you are either jacking me up, or you work for the IRS. :lol: :lol: :lol:
ROFLMAO!!!! :D:D:D

[roanjohn]

But the profit he made from the first transaction is irrelevant because he bought the horse again for more than what he sold it for.

Ro1

[roanjohn]

Yup. It went up $10 the first time he owned it, and another $10 the second time he owned it.

Repeat after me:
Twenty Dollars
Twenty Dollars
Twenty Dollars

The way I see it, you are either jacking me up, or you work for the IRS. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Tom - don't forget that in the process, he had to borrow $10............

Ro1

[Belmondo]

But the profit he made from the first transaction is irrelevant because he bought the horse again for more than what he sold it for.

Ro1

You do work for the IRS.

Quit fixating on the idea that it's the same horse. That's completely irrelevant.

I know what will help you understand.....

pretend the second owner changed the horse's name from Dobbin to Bessy, and then he painted it blue.

our entrepreneur bought a brown horse named Dobbin and sold it making a $10 profit. He then bought a blues horse named Bessy and sold it making another $10 profit.

Or lets try this:

Belmondo buys an EF 600 f/4.0L IS for $10.00. (He has connections)

He then sells the lens to roanjohn for $20.00. Belmondo makes $10 and a friend.

Roanjohn realizes he is too weak to haul the big lens around, and puts it up for auction on eBay.

Belmondo regrets having sold the lens so cheaply and starts looking for another one. He sees roanjohn's lens on eBay and is the successful bidder at $30.

Roanjohn makes $10 (minus fees and PayPal discount)

Belmondo then sells the lens to cmM for $40.00. Belmondo makes another $10 on the same lens. roanjohn realizes he has sold a $7,000 lens for $30 and jumps off a bridge. cmM is happier than a pig in mud, and Belmondo spends the day wondering where he put his teeth the night before.

See?

It all works out.

[roanjohn]

Repeat after me:
Twenty Dollars
Twenty Dollars
Twenty Dollars

The way I see it, you are either jacking me up, or you work for the IRS. :lol: :lol: :lol:

............you're right, darn it!!! cmM confused me!!!!

and for the record, I do work for the IRS......so unless you're a pro photographer, you can't use the money for that "expensive" white lens as a deductable!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ro1

[Belmondo]

............you're right, darn it!!! cmM confused me!!!!

and for the record, I do work for the IRS......so unless you're a pro photographer, you can't use the money for that "expensive" white lens as a deductable!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ro1

Cool! You wanna' buy a horse?

[roanjohn]

Cool! You wanna' buy a horse?

Sure, does it cost $60???

Tom - about your teeth.......don't forget to check between those lenses....sometimes, the white lens can act as a camouflage!!!:lol: :lol:

Thanks for the hilarious explanation........now the answer is clear.

Ro1

[cmM]

Cool! You wanna' buy a horse?
Wanna sell me that 600 f/4 for $40? ;)

And while Tom has a very solid point, I still can't see the fault in my reasoning.

[JMAS]

You’re kidding, right?

When he sells the horse for $90, he has $90 in his pocket from which he pays back the borrowed $10. That leaves $80. Since he started with $60, he’s made $20.


Yup. It went up $10 the first time he owned it, and another $10 the second time he owned it.

Repeat after me:
Twenty Dollars
Twenty Dollars
Twenty Dollars

The way I see it, you are either jacking me up, or you work for the IRS. :lol: :lol: :lol:

...OK. This is fun...
What about feeding the horse while in its possesion?
Given a period of time in between transactions and cost of capital (or opportunity of investment) we could make a discounted cash-flow analisys and reach the Net Present Value.
My bet is he would loose money....

:p

PS - I won't even put in the risk factor of ending up with a dead horse in between - translating to cameras-> the horse beeing a 20D and a 30D hiting the market...:D :D :D :p

[roanjohn]

And while Tom has a very solid point, I still can't see the fault in my reasoning.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ...oh no!!! I asked my co-worker (who supposedly is an accountant)........she said $10 profit!!! This thing never ends!!!

Her explaination: the $10 profit from the 2nd transaction cancels itself out because the guy has to pay the $10 he owed...........so the only profit is from the first transaction - that being $10.

Ro1

[Belmondo]

Wanna sell me that 600 f/4 for $40? ;)

And while Tom has a very solid point, I still can't see the fault in my reasoning.

That is very frightening. :lol:

[roanjohn]

That is very frightening. :lol:

Which?? The 600 f4 costing $40..........or the fact that he's not backin' down??

OR IS IT BOTH!!!???!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Ro1

[PacAce]

You’re kidding, right?

When he sells the horse for $90, he has $90 in his pocket from which he pays back the borrowed $10. That leaves $80. Since he started with $60, he’s made $20.


Yup. It went up $10 the first time he owned it, and another $10 the second time he owned it.

Repeat after me:
Twenty Dollars
Twenty Dollars
Twenty Dollars

The way I see it, you are either jacking me up, or you work for the IRS. :lol: :lol: :lol:
What a coincidence! My wife and I were having the exact same "argument" this afternoon over lunch, she saying that the profit is only $10.00. Once I convinced her that she was wrong, I told her she's lucky she doesn't have to do her own taxes or else she'd have the IRS after her for under reporting her profit income. But after reading Ro1's math "logic", maybe she just might be able to get away with that. :mrgreen:

[Belmondo]

Which?? The 600 f4 costing $40..........or the fact that he's not backin' down??

OR IS IT BOTH!!!???!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Ro1

None of the above....

the fact that nobody mentioned the $100 worth of mineral spirits necessary to get the blue paint off the horse.

I don't expect cmM to back down. I just hope someday to get into a business deal with him. I should be able to buy the horse from him for $10 less than he paid, and convince him he made $30.

Hey, cmM. It's going to hit you eventually, probably in the middle of the night tonight. Don't say I didn't warn you.

This has been fun, but now I have to go check eBay.... :evil: :lol:

[cmM]

None of the above....

the fact that nobody mentioned the $100 worth of mineral spirits necessary to get the blue paint off the horse.

I don't expect cmM to back down. I just hope someday to get into a business deal with him. I should be able to buy the horse from him for $10 less than he paid, and convince him he made $30.

Hey, cmM. It's going to hit you eventually, probably in the middle of the night tonight. Don't say I didn't warn you.

This has been fun, but now I have to go check eBay.... :evil: :lol:
Then perhaps you could point out the mistake in my thinking method, help me get it before the middle of the knight.

[roanjohn]

............okay, now I'm convinced that the answer is $10!!!

Whats wrong with me??

Ro1

[Belmondo]

Then perhaps you could point out the mistake in my thinking method, help me get it before the middle of the knight.

Nah. I've tried. The only mistake in your thinking is your thinking. ;) Let's see if anyone else jumps in to defend your point of view. I am always willing to be talked out of it, but not based on anything you've said so far.

If you can create any scenario whereby you purchase something, sell it for a $10 profit, buy it back, and sell it for another $10 profit, and then end up with anything other than $20 more in your pocket. I'm very willing to concede this debate.

Back to eBay.

[Belmondo]

............okay, now I'm convinced that the answer is $10!!!

Whats wrong with me??

Ro1
OMG

Close the shutters and bar the door.....we're surrounded!!!

Suggestion.....

Get out your Monopoly set and run through this with play money. If you screw it up, you're only out one Monopoly set. :confused: :cry: :rolleyes: :p :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[roanjohn]

To Belmondo - (a question from my co-worker):

At what price should the horse be bought in the end for the guy to break even??

Ro1

[cmM]

even though mathematically speaking Belmondo is correct...

Profit = Revenue - Cost
Cost = (First horse purchase $60) + (Second Horse Purchase $80) = $140
Revenue = (First horse sale $70) + (Second Horse Sale $90) = $160
Profit = $160 - $140 => Profit = $20

... I'm still confused. There has to be more to it. But screw it, I give up. I'll leave it to the more economically potent minds.

[roanjohn]

... I'm still confused. There has to be more to it. But screw it, I give up. I'll leave it to the more economically potent minds.

:mad: Hey!!! You put me through this..........you will stick to it till the end!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sorry.......my mind is now mush!!!

Ro1

[Belmondo]

To Belmondo - (a question from my co-worker):

At what price should the horse be bought in the end for the guy to break even??

Ro1

If he sold the horse for a $10 loss, he'd break even. He's already $10 ahead, so if he buys the horse for $80, and sells it for $70, it's a wash.

Using cmM's own example,

He's bought the horse twice, $60 + $80 = $140.

He sells it for $70 + $70 = $140.

No profit, but a heck of a mess in the barn.

[Belmondo]

Here's the good news.....

Look what the three of us have done for our post count today!!!

(It will be months before Scottes catches me!!)

[cmM]

Belmondo's right... dammit :evil:

;)

[roanjohn]

He's bought the horse twice, $60 + $80 = $140.



If the horse sold for 70, he not only have to pay the $10 he owed, but he also lost an additional $10 in the transaction...........however, he is still left with $60, which is the money he had to begin with!!!

My co-worker is stumped - and I am taking an Advil (Extra Strength)!!!

cmM - you can retire now............thanks!!!

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :p :D

Ro1

[roanjohn]

Here's the good news.....

Look what the three of us have done for our post count today!!!

(It will be months before Scottes catches me!!)

...........at least some good came out of it!!! And I finally reached the 2000 mark - making me an official "GOLDMEMBER"!!!! WOOOHOOO!!!!

Ro1

[tommykjensen]

OMG

Close the shutters and bar the door.....we're surrounded!!!

Suggestion.....

Get out your Monopoly set and run through this with play money. If you screw it up, you're only out one Monopoly set. :confused: :cry: :rolleyes: :p :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That was exactly my thought, in fact I did that :lol: :lol: :lol: Well I used danish 5 kroners, one coin representing $10.....

And what did I end up with...


10 kroners... ehhh sorry $20....

Even if I start out with $0.

Balance: 0
Borrow: 60
Buy for: 60
New balance: 0
Sell for: 70
New balance: 70
Pay back loan: 60
New balance: 10
Borrow: 70
New balance: 80
Buy for: 80
New balance: 0
Sell for: 90
New balance: 90
Pay back loan: 70

NEW BALANCE: 20 !! TADAAAA


This has been fun to read :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[IanD]

Uhh, guys, you forgot about the compounding intrest on the $10.00 loan. If the loaner is a big dude with a strange lump under his left arm, your profit is out the window.:):):):):):):):):):p:p

[markubig]

HOLY COW!!! . . . you guys totally spent an entire work day debating $10?!?!?!

[BearSummer]

Roanjoan, that was fun, thanks:lol:

Bearsummer, how long did you work on that? I spent about 20 minutes and had most of those answered, but some references i didn't get. Well done.:D

Thanks, It was a lot of fun, I found the first one the hardest, then had to find a way of posting that wouldnt instantly spoil everyones fun. Thats why some of the answers were a little cryptic, coffin is just to obvious backwards, and 5, well say no more. I guess about 10-15 minutes and that was including working out a way of answering that wasn't obvious. hardest thing is typing backwards

Once again, Thanks Roanjohn, a very good selection of puzzles

All the best

BearSummer

[JAZZ D.P.G.]

First and most important:lol: BearSummer is right on the $20 and Belmondo should be in the debating society for his tenacity in defending his position:lol:

Roanjoan, politics would be good, agree/disagree:lol: :lol: :lol:

cmM, You write the last Canadian Federal Budget? :rolleyes: Pretty twisted there with the numbers, too.

Good fun all.

[cmM]

cmM, You write the last Canadian Federal Budget? :rolleyes: Pretty twisted there with the numbers, too.
Whatcha talkin about? My figures are entirely accurate :lol:

[ilya]

F: A man bought a horse for $60 and sold it for $70. Then he bought the same horse back for $80 and again sold it for $90. How much money did he make in the horse business?



Reading this exchange was more painful than the nude thing http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif !!! (at one point in my youth I thought it would be fun to get a CPA license, which I did, which was painful as well).

Belamondo, nice, way to stand up for the truth in spite of funny math from all sides.

Anyone trade stocks? Lets say you bought 100 shares of Cisco in 1998 for $10 and sold it in 1999 for $100. You made $9,000.

You then in 2000 bought 100 shares of Cisco again for $200 because you felt like you were missing out on the gold rush. You wisely sold it before the crash for $300. You made $10,000.

How much total did you make on Cisco?

[roanjohn]

HOLY COW!!! . . . you guys totally spent an entire work day debating $10?!?!?!






........its $20!!!! .........don't get me started!!!

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Ro1

[aam1234]

I think it's $10.

Transaction 1:
Buy: 60
Sell: 70
--------
Profit 10

Tansaction 2:
Borrow 10 + 70= 80

Buy 80
Sell 90
--------
Profit 10

Profit from trans. 1 ($10) + profit from trans. 2 ($10) Minus return of debt ($10) = $10

[Belmondo]

I think it's $10.

Transaction 1:
Buy: 60
Sell: 70
--------
Profit 10

Tansaction 2:
Borrow 10 + 70= 80

Buy 80
Sell 90
--------
Profit 10

Profit from trans. 1 ($10) + profit from trans. 2 ($10) Minus return of debt ($10) = $10


Go get the butterfly net. We have another one! :lol:

[Citizensmith]

OK, here is another one:

Dallas is 1,219 miles from Detroit. A train leaves Dallas going 80 mph. One leaves Detroit at the same time traveling 90 mph. Which train will be farther from Dallas when they meet??

Ro1

I guess it depends which way they are going. We could be looking at the Dallas Light Rail system (if it has one) and an amtrak headed from Detroit to Protland Oregon. I wonder if there is a horse salesman on the train with two crisp $10 bills in his pocket.

I fail to see why some people assumes he has to borrow the $10 he made on the first horse, I'm definitely in the $20 camp, its two separate transactions.

Well aside from ebay and paypal fees. He probably got more like $17.36.

[Citizensmith]

Oh yeah, and can you get air miles on horse purchases?

[tommykjensen]

I fail to see why some people assumes he has to borrow the $10 he made on the first horse, I'm definitely in the $20 camp, its two separate transactions.


But it does not matter if he has to borrow $10, $60 or $0 the end result is the same $20.

[tommykjensen]

No matter what the start balance is the end result will always be $20


Start Balance: 60
Borrow: 0
Buy for: 60
New balance: 0
Sell for: 70
New balance: 70
Pay back loan: 0
New balance: 70
Borrow: 10
New balance: 80
Buy for: 80
New balance: 0
Sell for: 90
New balance: 90
Pay back loan: 10

NEW BALANCE: 80

- START BALANCE: 60

END RESULT: 20


Start Balance: 100
Borrow: 0
Buy for: 60
New balance: 40
Sell for: 70
New balance: 110
Pay back loan: 0
New balance: 110
Borrow: 00
New balance: 110
Buy for: 80
New balance: 30
Sell for: 90
New balance: 120
Pay back loan: 00

NEW BALANCE: 120

- START BALANCE: 100

END RESULT: 20

[Belmondo]

Thanks for taking over on this, Tommy. I'm going to bed.

Goodnight.

[aam1234]

I agree, it's $20 if he has access to more than the intial $60. I assumed all he has in his pocket is $60 to start selling/buying. So it really depends on your assumption.

[tommykjensen]

I agree, it's $20 if he has access to more than the intial $60. I assumed all he has in his pocket is $60 to start selling/buying. So it really depends on your assumption.

NO! it does not matter how much money he starts out with, look at the calculation I posted where he starts out with $0!

[tommykjensen]

I agree, it's $20 if he has access to more than the intial $60. I assumed all he has in his pocket is $60 to start selling/buying. So it really depends on your assumption.

Even if he starts out with -$20 he has made a profit of $20 because at the end he will then have no debt.

[charlesu]

This is just too darn funny.

And no, the picture is not of himself. Keep thinking on that one!

[samdring]

This is just too darn funny.

And no, the picture is not of himself. Keep thinking on that one!

Mirror, I think, originallly, but won't picture do?

Did you know that the oldest man who ever lived, died before his father?

[aam1234]

NO! it does not matter how much money he starts out with, look at the calculation I posted where he starts out with $0!

Hmmm, now you got me there :evil:

[BearSummer]

Sheesh,

I stand by my first answer, $20 minus tax (ymmv)

Just to give you something else to argue over

Q1, How long is a piece of string?
Q2, How many beans make five?
Q3, If I walk out of my front door and walk a mile south, then turn 90 degrees to the right and walk 6.28318530718 miles then turn 90 degrees to the right again and walk for a mile. Where am I and where do I live?
Q4, If a man speaks and a woman doesn't hear him is he still wrong?

Best regards

BearSummer

[Belmondo]

Q3 is pretty easy. At least Santa Claus thinks so.

The others.....I have no clue.

[BearSummer]

Q3 is pretty easy. At least Santa Claus thinks so.

The others.....I have no clue.

Well Santa knows where we all live, as does the tax man. You should notice that I didn't shoot a bear... want another try at #3?

BearSummer

[PacAce]

Charles, since no one's coughed up an answer for you, here's mine. It's his son's picture.

As for the train riddle, the train that leaves Detroit will be farther from Dallas when the two trains meet. That's because the train from Dallas will be between the train from Detroit and Dallas when they meet and so, closer to Dallas, making the Detroit train farther away.

[Belmondo]

The Santa reference was to indicate that you live in the north pole. After all your walking, you're back home again, and if you had shot a bear, it would have been white.

That might not be the answer you're looking for, but it works.

Hopefully you sold two horses while you were walking and are $20 richer.

[roanjohn]

This is just too darn funny.

And no, the picture is not of himself. Keep thinking on that one!

nos sih fo si erutcip eht.

Thanks Bearsummer!!! You have inspired me!!! :D

Ro1

[roanjohn]

I think it's $10.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: This is too funny!!!!

Ro1

[BearSummer]

The Santa reference was to indicate that you live in the north pole. After all your walking, you're back home again, and if you had shot a bear, it would have been white.

That might not be the answer you're looking for, but it works.

Hopefully you sold two horses while you were walking and are $20 richer.

Only if "I" live at the North pole and ended up back where I started, anyway we know it isn't inhabited....

And who would I sell horses to at the north pole, do horse traders get everywhere?

:)

BearSummer

[Belmondo]

Re: the train thing.......

This is roanjohn's original question:
Dallas is 1,219 miles from Detroit. A train leaves Dallas going 80 mph. One leaves Detroit at the same time traveling 90 mph. Which train will be farther from Dallas when they meet??

There are a couple possible answers to this depending on how technical you want to be. If you define the point at which they meet as when they are nose-to-nose, the train from Detroit will be farther from Dallas. If the the trains are of equal length, and you define their meeting point as when they are side by side, they are the same distance from Dallas. I think most people would agree on the first scenario, so I'll take that one....the train from Detroit will be farther from Dallas when they meet.

(Note....their speed and the distances between cities has no bearing on the answer.)

[Belmondo]

Only if "I" live at the North pole and ended up back where I started, anyway we know it isn't inhabited....

And who would I sell horses to at the north pole, do horse traders get everywhere?

:)

BearSummer

Well, you've got me. Obviously you've walked in a circle with a radius of one mile (2 X 3.14159.....) If you're not Santa, then I'm stumped.

I'm sorry....I'll have to live without the answer until tomorrow. I'm on my way to Los Angeles right now.

[BearSummer]

And whilst i think about it,

Q5, How much does one pound of lead weigh?

BearSummer

[roanjohn]

Re: the train thing.......

This is roanjohn's original question:


If the the trains are of equal length, and you define their meeting point as when they are side by side, they are the same distance from Dallas. (Note....their speed and the distances between cities has no bearing on the answer.)

.........thats the answer I'm looking for!!!

Ro1

[roanjohn]

And whilst i think about it,

Q5, How much does one pound of lead weigh?

BearSummer

dnuop eno!!!:p

Ro1

[BearSummer]

.........thats the answer I'm looking for!!!

Ro1

Looks like RoanJohn is almost as naughty as I am

:)

BearSummer

[BearSummer]

dnuop eno!!!:p

Ro1

Possibly....would you like to be more specific.....

BearSummer

[dewmuw]

Has anyone factured in exchange rates for those members, like me, who are from the UK? :D

This reminds me of my accountancy exams! :(

[BearSummer]

Has anyone factured in exchange rates for those members, like me, who are from the UK? :D

This reminds me of my accountancy exams! :(

Yeah they forgot that I live in the UK too.

BearSummer

[dewmuw]

Yeah they forgot that I live in the UK too.

BearSummer

Well I changed $100 at the airport last week and got £50.02 back - so I reckon the answer must be £11.74. :):):)

[BearSummer]

Q1, How long is a piece of string?
Q2, How many beans make five?
Q3, If I walk out of my front door and walk a mile south, then turn 90 degrees to the right and walk 6.28318530718 miles then turn 90 degrees to the right again and walk for a mile. Where am I and where do I live?
Q4, If a man speaks and a woman doesn't hear him is he still wrong?
Q5, How much does one pound of lead weigh?
BearSummer

Well this is what i think it should be.

A1, flah ni ti dlof uoy fi sa gnol sa eciwt
A2, eson ruoy pu eno dna dnah hcae ni owt
A3, (eliforp ym ni sti) yerruS ni emoh ym fo ESE selim 6.6 tuoba eb dluow I
A4, xes ruoy no sdneped
A5, si ytivarg lacol ruoy tahw sdneped ,odnup a fo 3/1 sti sram no ,dnuop a sti htrae no
.tnatsnoc sniamer ssam sti revewoh

all the best

BearSummer

[tommykjensen]

Well I changed $100 at the airport last week and got £50.02 back - so I reckon the answer must be £11.74. :):):)

Ohh well if thats the case the answer is really 116 DKK. :lol:

[roanjohn]

Q1, How long is a piece of string?

- it depends........but just like a line - it is infinite.

Q2, How many beans make five?

- 5???? I know its wrong cuz it can't be that easy.

Q3, If I walk out of my front door and walk a mile south, then turn 90 degrees to the right and walk 6.28318530718 miles then turn 90 degrees to the right again and walk for a mile. Where am I and where do I live?

- ????

Q4, If a man speaks and a woman doesn't hear him is he still wrong?

- man - always wrong.........woman - always right.

:p I tried.

[dewmuw]

Ohh well if thats the case the answer is really 116 DKK. :lol:

Did you factor in Euro rates and hedge your own rates? :D

[PacAce]

.........thats the answer I'm looking for!!!

Ro1
But technically, that wouldn't be right because the trains will have met as soon as they are head to head with each other, not butt to head, no? :confused:

And besides, just 'cuz that's the answer you're looking for doesn't mean it's the right answer, does it, considering your $10.00 answer in the horse transaction question? :mrgreen: :lol:

[samdring]

Yeah they forgot that I live in the UK too.

BearSummer

And they also forget that a pony in England is twenty-five pounds ;)

[roanjohn]

But technically, that wouldn't be right because the trains will have met as soon as they are head to head with each other, not butt to head, no? :confused:

And besides, just 'cuz that's the answer you're looking for doesn't mean it's the right answer, does it, considering your $10.00 answer in the horse transaction question? :mrgreen: :lol:

..........I am measuring the distance from the head............so when they meet (head to head) - the distance is similar....:D

.........and you have a point about the $10.............you have to admit though, it made sense at the time ;)

Ro1

[Citizensmith]

Q1, How long is a piece of string?


Twice half its length.


If the horse was availble on Amazon at least it would have free shipping.

[PacAce]

..........I am measuring the distance from the head............so when they meet (head to head) - the distance is similar....:D

.........and you have a point about the $10.............you have to admit though, it made sense at the time ;)

Ro1
OK, maybe this will help answer the question a little better. If the train from Dallas backed up and the train from Detroit went forward so that they both moved at the same rate (that is, they're still head to head), which train will get to Dallas first? Don't tell me that the one from Detroit will get there at the same time as the one from Dallas because when the end of the train from Dallas enters Dallas city limits, the train from detroit will still be a train length away from Dallas. Right? :p :mrgreen:

[roanjohn]

OK, maybe this will help answer the question a little better. If the train from Dallas backed up and the train from Detroit went forward so that they both moved at the same rate (that is, they're still head to head), which train will get to Dallas first? Don't tell me that the one from Detroit will get there at the same time as the one from Dallas because when the end of the train from Dallas enters Dallas city limits, the train from detroit will still be a train length away from Dallas. Right? :p :mrgreen:

WOW!!! I need a map as I am lost!!! This is more confusing than the horse explanation.

Ro1

[charlesu]

nos sih fo si erutcip eht.

Thanks Bearsummer!!! You have inspired me!!! :D

Ro1

We have a winner!

[PacAce]

We have a winner!
Not that I'm complaining or anything but how come I didn't get the credit for coming up with the answer first? :confused:

Charles, since no one's coughed up an answer for you, here's mine. It's his son's picture.

As for the train riddle, the train that leaves Detroit will be farther from Dallas when the two trains meet. That's because the train from Dallas will be between the train from Detroit and Dallas when they meet and so, closer to Dallas, making the Detroit train farther away.

[roanjohn]

Not that I'm complaining or anything but how come I didn't get the credit for coming up with the answer first? :confused:

I think you need to say the answer backwards!!!:lol::lol:

Ro1

[PacAce]

I think you need to say the answer backwards!!!:lol::lol:

Ro1
Oh, OK! Gotcha! ;)
OK, somebody, ask another riddle so I can answer it backwards. :mrgreen:

[BearSummer]

Oh, OK! Gotcha! ;)
OK, somebody, ask another riddle so I can answer it backwards. :mrgreen:

Q6, What do you get if you spell PacAce backwards?

:)

BearSummer

[PacAce]

Q6, What do you get if you spell PacAce backwards?

:)

BearSummer
Man, you just had to throw in the hardest riddle of all time, didn't you? :confused:

:mrgreen: :lol: :mrgreen:

[cmM]

Q6, What do you get if you spell PacAce backwards?

:)

BearSummer
hahahhaaaah :-P:-P:-P
That's awesome!

[roanjohn]

Q6, What do you get if you spell PacAce backwards?

:)

BearSummer

O-E-L.

Did I get it right??

Ro1

[cmM]

Ok here's a riddle to keep you guys busy for the rest of the day:

If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done?

[roanjohn]

Failed.

Ro1

[PacAce]

Ok here's a riddle to keep you guys busy for the rest of the day:

If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done?
My brain just went into an endless loop thinking about the answer. I think my brain is going to explode in a couple of seconds. <<cross-eyed emoticon with tongue sticking out goes here>>

[aam1234]

My brain just went into an endless loop thinking about the answer. I think my brain is going to explode in a couple of seconds.

Ha ha, that's exactly what happened to me, but couldn't describe it as well as you did.