noise & old toy

[HKFEVER]

Nothing to do this couple day then dig out an old toy to try some noise that created by my 4th 1DsMKII. Did not do any ND in camera nor by other software. This is a 100% corp by PS.

Hand held, AV 2.8, TV 1/25, ISO1600, 24-70mm 2.8L at 50mm, +1/3 Exposure Compensation,
By the way, any guys has this old old thing.

[MDJAK]

Nice shot, HK. What model is that? You should put a roll of film in it and take a couple of shots.

B&H might give you a couple of bucks for it.

[HKFEVER]

Can't remember the model #, I will dig out the manual tomorrow. Also will try couple roll to see whether it is working. But I need to find my meter first or use the DSLR as the meter.

[robertwgross]

That camera looks like something that was state-of-the-art from about 1960.

---Bob Gross---

[mbze430]

looks like a FT. Wait is a rangefinder, so it must be really old... Canon II?

[Jon]

Somewhere late '40s to early '50s, but what's got me thrown off is the PC terminal on the front.

[pierrot]

Agree with Jon, it's a II series between 1954 and 1956, but I never saw one with a PC terminal here. After 1956, the camera had the timer lever there.

[Jon]

Of course, he's got Canon III in his sig. Nah, that's too easy! IIIA? According to the Canon Camera Museum that had the vertical grooves on the film advance.

[mbze430]

I personally don't think that's a PC Sync connector....jmo.

[Jon]

If it's not a PC terminal, it's still an anomaly. None of the possible cameras at the Museum show anything there. The models with self-timers (and the self-timer would have had to come off, leaving only the internals and likely a light leak) had different film advance knobs.

[mbze430]

Might not even be a canon body. Back in the 50s, everyone was using similar mounts. It might be a Canon lens on a different body.

That body design was literally copied by all the japanese manufacture at the time of the Leica. So it could be anything.

[Jon]

Might not even be a canon body. Back in the 50s, everyone was using similar mounts. It might be a Canon lens on a different body.

That body design was literally copied by all the japanese manufacture at the time of the Leica. So it could be anything.

Nikon, for one, used the Contax-style mount. And the Nikon RFs looked quite different on top. Likewise Minoltas look extremely different from this one. The only visible difference between this and the IIIA in the Canon Camera Museum (http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/camera/1946-1954/data/1951_3a.html) is a visible PC connector which isn't apparent in Canon's photo. pictures.

[nat869]

Might not even be a canon body. Back in the 50s, everyone was using similar mounts. It might be a Canon lens on a different body.

That body design was literally copied by all the japanese manufacture at the time of the Leica. So it could be anything.

That's a good point, my first thought was it looks just like my Leica Rangefinder.

[drisley]

Did not do any ND in camera nor by other software.
What does ND stand for?
Nice btw. That is a 100% crop? There is no noise at all. That even beats the 20D for noise, which was the king of noisefree ISO's. What does the whole image look like?

[Jon]

That's a good point, my first thought was it looks just like my Leica Rangefinder.

Most of the III series Leicas had rounded, rather than angular corners, and they all had more viewfinder windows.

[skyphix]

Looks a lot like the Yashica I just picked up for free. My Yashica is from '73 though and not nearly as cool as that .

[Redbird_xo]

What does ND stand for?

I think the original poster meant to say NR (noise reduction).

I guess the original poster was interested in the noise level of his 4th 1Ds MKII. But as it turned out, the vintage canon took the center stage. A nice twist of things.

I am checking with the Canon's One Step Closer To The Dream poster, I believe it's a 1951 III A.

[Redbird_xo]

Oh, as an attempt to get the bonus point, I guess the yellowish thing on the camera's left is a Kleenex tissue box. ;)

[mbze430]

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/iannorris/leica_copies/leica_copies_c/canonIIIa.htm

Still doesn't explain that hole there....

[Redbird_xo]

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/iannorris/leica_copies/leica_copies_c/canonIIIa.htm

Still doesn't explain that hole there....

Totally agreed. I went through the poster and didn't find any camara a hole positioned as such. III A was my best guess based on other physical features.

[mbze430]

man it's 3pm in HK, he should be on soon and tell us what this thing is....lol

[HKFEVER]

man it's 3pm in HK, he should be on soon and tell us what this thing is....lol
Will post the original Manual and couple more shoots of this old thing after my dinner.

[HKFEVER]

Sorry wrong spelling I mean NR not ND.

This is the original manual & the original post without corp, scale down to 15% and savew for web in 85% in PS.

[HKFEVER]

Here are another 2 pictures that show this old toy's top, front, lenses and the flash.

[jeric777]

is that a silencer on the right?:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[HKFEVER]

is that a silencer on the right?:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
It is a battery pack forthe flash.

[Jon]

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/iannorris/leica_copies/leica_copies_c/canonIIIa.htm

Still doesn't explain that hole there....

I know. I said that right at the beginning. Somewhere late '40s to early '50s, but what's got me thrown off is the PC terminal on the front.

I guess someone did a very professional job of adding a PC terminal to this in the aftermarket.

[mbze430]

good show...good show...

Wanna sell it??

[HKFEVER]

Not for sale st this moment. Unless someone post me an offer that I can't resist.:lol:

[Jon]

How about a 1DS Mk II with sensor dirt? I'll bet you don't have one of those!

:{)#

[Belmondo]

That camera looks like something that was state-of-the-art from about 1960.

---Bob Gross---

Like you and me.

I love old cameras. I think Bob is right, though. This was the latest and greatest just before the SLR came into prominence.

[HKFEVER]

I know. I said that right at the beginning.

I guess someone did a very professional job of adding a PC terminal to this in the aftermarket.

Just wonder what is that PC terminal for, and where can I find the cable for that?

[mbze430]

PC Sync terminals are cord that trips studio lights. They have many different type of adapter/heads.

[Jon]

PC Sync terminals are cord that trips studio lights. They have many different type of adapter/heads.

Actually, most portable non-dedicated electronic flashes and a fair number of flashbulb-type flashes (convoluted wording essential for the edification of the younger generation) used PC connectors in the time before hot shoes. Studio flashes of the period commonly used parallel-blade (resembling US 110V 2-bladed power cords) connectors.

[HKFEVER]

Actually, most portable non-dedicated electronic flashes and a fair number of flashbulb-type flashes (convoluted wording essential for the edification of the younger generation) used PC connectors in the time before hot shoes. Studio flashes of the period commonly used parallel-blade (resembling US 110V 2-bladed power cords) connectors.

As you can see there is a flash bulb type of flash in the background, I will post some more of that flash's connection and set up tomorrow morning (we are 1am here in HK) plus the self timer that come with this Canon.

[Jon]

Yeah. According to the Canon Camera Museum, many of Canon's rangefinders had a dedicated flash connection on the side rail. The PC connection would have been added so the owner at that time could have used different/more powerful flash bulbs or an electronic flash.