Oh boy, my wife is PO'd at me right now.

[SteveBrown]

I took my camera to school last Friday for a field trip and a hot, very hot girl who sits next to me in English class asked if I would photograph her for her company. I was thinking for a business card or something. Anyways, she is a barista at the hot hut coffee shop here in Tacoma, and wants pictures of her in her bikini and lingerie. I told her I would get back to her. I really have no clue what or how to take these pictures.

I was going to ask for some advice, but I told my wife about it and she came unglued to say the least. Thinks I'm sleeping with this chic. :rolleyes: WOW, try and be honest, and I get slammed. Told the girl today that my wife was not happy, and she says that my wife must have some problems, and that maybe we should make her jealous. :-o

Uh, I don't think so. This girl still wants me to take photos of her. I kinda want to myself, since my wife won't let me photograph her.

Any comments or suggestions?

[e r y k]

tell your wife to tag along. but that could be a double edged knife.

just make sure you arent alone with that girl. seems like you and your wife have a little trust issue to work on :)

[jft158]

I took my camera to school last Friday for a field trip and a hot, very hot girl who sits next to me in English class asked if I would photograph her for her company. I was thinking for a business card or something. Anyways, she is a barista at the hot hut coffee shop here in Tacoma, and wants pictures of her in her bikini and lingerie. I told her I would get back to her. I really have no clue what or how to take these pictures.

I was going to ask for some advice, but I told my wife about it and she came unglued to say the least. Thinks I'm sleeping with this chic. :rolleyes: WOW, try and be honest, and I get slammed. Told the girl today that my wife was not happy, and she says that my wife must have some problems, and that maybe we should make her jealous. :-o

Uh, I don't think so. This girl still wants me to take photos of her. I kinda want to myself, since my wife won't let me photograph her.

Any comments or suggestions?

send her to Dallas...I wouldn't go behind your wife's back now that you told her,,maybe invite your wife to come along on the shoot to help? As they say its easier to ask for forgiveness than ask for permision when your married :lol:

[SteveBrown]

tell your wife to tag along. but that could be a double edged knife.

just make sure you arent alone with that girl. seems like you and your wife have a little trust issue to work on :)

Well, being that I am in school, she thinks I want to hump all these girls. I don't. I look all the time, but never, ever touch. My wife just graduated last year from nursing school and she "knows" how all these young girls are, wanting the older experienced guy. :rolleyes:

I don't know if she is PMS'ing or what, but this is not like my wife. I also forgot to say that I told this girl I was not very experienced behind the lens, and she commented "that's OK, I can help break your cherry". I did not however tell my wife that part.

She said she does not want to spend money on a pro, and wants to help me figure it out.

I know it sounds bad, but that is the way this girl talks to everyone, even flirts with the teacher in class. I highly doubt she wants my 35 year old fat azz.

[DDCSD]

Yes, either bring your wife along, or don't do it at all.

Oh, and see a marriage counselor to work on those trust issues. :)

[coalcliff]

I took my camera to school last Friday for a field trip and a hot, very hot girl who sits next to me in English class asked if I would photograph her for her company. I was thinking for a business card or something. Anyways, she is a barista at the hot hut coffee shop here in Tacoma, and wants pictures of her in her bikini and lingerie.
Any comments or suggestions?


Man, I might have to start drinking Coffee at that Coffee Shop!!!:lol::lol:

My lady was a bit miffed when I first shot a few models, see thru and topless, but she is ok with it now as we had a good talk and we have a very strong trust of each other.. So see if you can talk it thru with her, heck, she might even start to let you photograph her!

[thekid24]

yur gonna take advice from strangers on a forum over yur own wife's advice?

all you can really do is explain it to her...if still she is not thrilled or happy about it....is it really worth all the drama that will ensue if and when you do photograph the woman from the coffee place?

[SteveBrown]

yur gonna take advice from strangers on a forum over yur own wife's advice?

all you can really do is explain it to her...if still she is not thrilled or happy about it....is it really worth all the drama that will ensue if and when you do photograph the woman from the coffee place?

No, I was looking for some answers on how to handle my wife. I am sure many of you had to have a talk with your spouse about shooting other woman. This girl is not even going to be nude. Like I told my wife, it's like taking pictures of girls on the beach. Which she had no problem with.

I am not sure what I want to do, I do want to take pics of my wife in skimpy outfits. I think she would look great. But she wants no part of it. I think maybe because her sister let a guy take pictures of her naked, and posted them all over the internet. Maybe she is worried I would do that or something, IDK for sure.

I was looking for advice on how to talk to my wife about expanding my photography collection.

[BrendanT]

My gut feel....politely decline. Too many bad vibe variables going on there. Speaking from various experiences, if you go through with it, there WILL be a backlash. This chick sounds up for something from what you've said, add to that your wife is not comfortable about it, and just don't do it. Simple. Try it the other way around, imagine your wife was into photography, and she wanted to photograph a movie star looking guy from her school class in his undies, how would you feel? Mutual respect mate. Gotta have it.

[BrendanT]

Oh.....and if you wind up taking these pics.......we'd like to see them please. :lol:

[SteveBrown]

My gut feel....politely decline. Too many bad vibe variables going on there. Speaking from various experiences, if you go through with it, there WILL be a backlash. This chick sounds up for something from what you've said, add to that your wife is not comfortable about it, and just don't do it. Simple. Try it the other way around, imagine your wife was into photography, and she wanted to photograph a movie star looking guy from her school class in his undies, how would you feel? Mutual respect mate. Gotta have it.


HAHA, she went to nursing school, used to come back home from the hospital and tell me how big some dudes junk was. She still tells me about it. No big deal to me, it's part of her job. That's the part I can't figure out, why she is being the way she is. I really think it is her sister stuff or something.

I have been trying to lose some weight, going to the gym, and eating right, maybe she feels inferior or something. Not sure. Like maybe I am getting in shape for someone else. I really don't know. I am trying to lose some weight before I graduate, a slimmer guy I feel looks more professional in a job interview then a guy with his gut hanging over his belt.

[eeeksNYC]

no marriage is worth a picture. walk away.

[BrendanT]

[quote=SteveBrown;6759547]I have been trying to lose some weight, going to the gym, and eating right, maybe she feels inferior or something. Not sure. Like maybe I am getting in shape for someone else. I really don't know. /quote]

Probably not inferior man, but def insecure. Seriously, if you respect how she feels, and you should because she is your wife and supposed to be what you protect most in this world, do what Eeeeek says and walk away, there is definitely no picture worth your marriage.

[The Mack]

Fly me out there to help :)

[tomd]

I need some coffee (http://www.weeklyvolcano.com/article/2261).

[S.Horton]

no marriage is worth a picture. walk away.

That's what it seems on the surface, but let's take it another direction.

If OP does not do something because his wife is irrational, then what's next? She stops him from A, then B, then C.......... Pretty soon, he's living in the margins, unable to make any choice which might get a flipped-out response. Basically, she is playing the 'trust' card for control.

So, here's what I'd suggest to the OP..........

Go get a contract, get the model to sign it, and get paid. That makes it purely professional.

And, IMO, being alone with her is a very bad idea, in any case, because you have no reason to be. Get someone to help with lighting, keep it above board, and have fun.

BTW, your best case outcome is that the model is not serious, won't pay you, it all kinda goes away, but on your terms.

[BrendanT]

By no means am I saying OP should cave on photographing models. If this were a standard model shoot then cool, maybe make a stand, but......it seems a little dodge to me. For sure have photoshoots with models, but going ahead with a shoot with a "hot" model who you know personally who says you should give your wife something to be jealous about, sounds like a recipe for trouble.

[thekid24]

agreed^^

[RandyMN]

By no means am I saying OP should cave on photographing models. If this were a standard model shoot then cool, maybe make a stand, but......it seems a little dodge to me. For sure have photoshoots with models, but going ahead with a shoot with a "hot" model who you know personally who says you should give your wife something to be jealous about, sounds like a recipe for trouble.

No doubt a recipe for trouble!

I understand the problem and face the same issues. I either avoid the shoot, bring my wife with or if someone really did not care, just schedule the shoot and show your wife she does have something to be jealous about!

Chances are the 'HOT' opportunity would play the game.

[amonline]

Sounds like your wife is guilty of something. ;) Seriously, if she cannot respect your passion for your art/talent, then it seems like there's more to the story.

I agree with the 'take her along' stance. If she still bitches, then there's a larger problem here.

Just IMHO.

[photoguy6405]

Based on what you describe here I'm getting flashback nightmares. My first-hand experience and self-education on extreme jealousy... She'll never understand or get over it. This is your life for as long as you're married.

I say that not only from my experience, but from extensive reading and research I did on the matter when I was trying to fix it. Virtually every expert I read said the same thing... this is the one thing that cannot be fixed in a person unless they see it themselves and want to fix it.

[photoguy6405]

That's what it seems on the surface, but let's take it another direction.

If OP does not do something because his wife is irrational, then what's next? She stops him from A, then B, then C.......... Pretty soon, he's living in the margins, unable to make any choice which might get a flipped-out response. Basically, she is playing the 'trust' card for control.

Testify! This is exactly what would happen, the steady progression, with each thing being more absurd than the last. You eventually reach a point where you're afraid to do anything, in spite of the fact that you know what might set the other person off is completely ridiculous.

[FLICKFLICK]

You, my friend are in a bigger dilemma than taking lingerie images of a random broad in your class.

The leash will only get tighter.:shock: Just from a man-to-man

[RandyMN]

You, my friend are in a bigger dilemma than taking lingerie images of a random broad in your class.

The leash will only get tighter.:shock: Just from a man-to-man

Speaking as a married man, I think jealousy is normal to a certain point.

Speaking as a married man, avoid the problems because if my wife was to go out and take photo's of a fellow classmate in his underwear, I might also get jealous...

For a married man to take any type of intimate photo's of anyone other than his wife will take a spoecial relationship that i doubt most people have. This forumn is giving me the impression that this is not normal when in fact it is totally normal.

A good relationship can work it out, but I figure it's easier to just avoid the issue.

[Croasdail]

Yeah, this is not one of those I would test my relationship with. I know it would survive, no questions there. But the it really is unnecessary. Even if your wife is totally in the wrong here, spouses put up with enough stuff regardless. Why add fuel to the fire. If you had a history of building to these types of shots, that would be one thing. But if I were to tell my spouse some chick I barely know wants me to take shots of her in her undies or less... I would fully expect my wife to think I had completely lost my mind or had taken a full header into the mid-life crises deep end.

What would you think if your wife came back to you and said the good looking neighbor wanted to hang out with her dangling his bits and pieces around for all to see. Do some normal stuff first, with your wife there as your assistant. Then if things seem normal, let things progress where they may. But be mature enough to put your wife's feelings first. Don't let little Stevie do too much thinking for you.

[SteveBrown]

Yeah, I agree, I am not going to push it. I offered her to come along and she has no interest in it. Which kinda sux. I will tell the girl on Monday that it will not happen. Oh well, it is not worth my marriage, as much as I would love to do it. I wish my wife would be a willing subject.

[Fade2]

Remember
Make yours a happy home!
After the shoot you're still have to deal with wifey.
But the hot chick will be long gone!

[hawk911]

I have had the exact same conversation with my wife when I started to get more into photography as a business. I have limits to what I'll shoot and I'm fine with those limits. It does boil down to trust, insecurities, and self-esteem. If those exist, anything that resembles a threat to your wife will be treated as such, and any attempt on your part to save that threat will be detrimental to your well being. What's more important is to resolve the issues between you and your wife about trust, her self esteem, her insecurities. Once you have those, the other items may seem trivial to both of you.

In the end, if Momma aint happy, nobodies happy! and trust me- the side benefits of a happy woman are fantastic!!!8)8)

[LBaldwin]

I took my camera to school last Friday for a field trip and a hot, very hot girl who sits next to me in English class asked if I would photograph her for her company. I was thinking for a business card or something. Anyways, she is a barista at the hot hut coffee shop here in Tacoma, and wants pictures of her in her bikini and lingerie. I told her I would get back to her. I really have no clue what or how to take these pictures.

I was going to ask for some advice, but I told my wife about it and she came unglued to say the least. Thinks I'm sleeping with this chic. :rolleyes: WOW, try and be honest, and I get slammed. Told the girl today that my wife was not happy, and she says that my wife must have some problems, and that maybe we should make her jealous. :-o

Uh, I don't think so. This girl still wants me to take photos of her. I kinda want to myself, since my wife won't let me photograph her.

Any comments or suggestions?

My wife of 14 years says that I am often oblivous when another female is hitting on me. It looks like you are too. Do not under any circumstances take pictures of this woman.

If your wife is po'd now she will come unglued if you do the shoot. The girl in your class is after your butt and the fact that you are married makes it even better for her. If you value your wife and your marriage at all run like hell the other way.

If you want to shoot this type of subject matter it needs to be under more controlled atmosphere. ie class etc. I know that you are flattered and probably love the idea but trust me it is not worth the pain you going to get if you do. Your wife sees a shoot like this just like cheating so be careful where you tread.

[g-money]

OK, I am going to tell this story on myself

Back early this year I had a co worker who approaced me asking if I could do some shots of his wife. She was wanting to get into modeling and needed some pics for her folio. I said sure we could do a TFP session. Time passed and late this summer we set a time to do an urban style shoot downtown.

Well the night before the shoot he calls the house saying she wanted some bikini shots and if we could move the shoot to the lake. (All my experience is with wedding and normal portrait work nothing risque) So I said I guess, if that was what she really wanted but I would need to clear it with my wife.

I told her of the change of plans and asked if it was OK. She asked if her husband would be there the whole time and I assured her he would. So she gave me her blessing.

Well, we met up the next afternoon and I was shocked at the bikini she put on first. There was not enough fabric in it to cover a door knob. Nothing covering her rear end in any way.

I finally got comfortable (I was more nervous than her) and we made it though the shoot. Even though someone called the sheriff and said there was a lady there having her picture taken against her will. Don't ask, I don't know. He watched for a few minutes and said no laws were being broken and left.

Over the next few days I processed the pics and got quit a few that were really good. Once finished my wife who up to this point had been fine with it asked to see the pics which having nothing to hide pulled them up and proceeded to show her a slide show. It only took about 20 images for her to get terribly upset. She stormed out of the room. Came back in later looked a couple more then called me every name in the book. Accused me of sleeping with her. Of having my junk in one hand and my camera in the other. I literally had to get between her an my computer to keep her from throwing it out in the yard.

I did my best to explain I was professional during the shoot and thought nothing about it other than getting her quality images. She barely spoke to me for several days. I seriously thought our marrage was in jeapordy. I Really upset & hurt her.

She finally came around and we talked it out and we both apologized and now all is forgotten and we laugh about it. Would I do it again, no. My marriage is not worth it. Some people can handle this sort of thing others can't. My advice is if she is upset now forget it. No image is worth hurting your spouse.

Sorry for being long winded

Greg

[tommykjensen]

I am not married so I can't give you any advice about how to "handle" your wife but I just wanted to say that you should probably be carefull what you write about your wife on a public forum. Have you considered what would happen if she finds this thread and reads you are looking for advice on how to "handle" her?

I wish I still had the url but a couple years ago there was a very long thread on a forum posted by a guy that talked pretty bad about his girlfriend. Well the girlfriend found that thread and joined the discussion and really told him off. I can just imagine want went on in real life......

[shannyD]

really,

its not worth it. i had to put up with the stupid crap my husband did for the whole time he was in the marines.. strip clubs, bachelor parties and what not. i knew he wasnt cheating.. but it sucked anyway.. i had just had our third child.. and not exactly feeling my best.. and he drops that bomb on me. ( the did the strip club thing when a Marine was getting out into the free world)
he wasnt spending money on them, just a few beers, and would usually come home a little bit later) but it was still hurtful anyway. needless to say... the last time they had a party.. it was for him, and wives are never invited. one of his friends had left a comment on his myspace back then, of a stripper using him as her pole to dance on. i was unhinged in the matter of a second, and took off. ( it didnt matter that it didnt look like he enjoyed it) i still wouldnt answer my cell, stayed in a hotel for a week with my kiddos, and all of that stuff.

now with me being into photography, he is ok with me doing what i like to do.. if a guy wanted pics in his undies he couldnt care less, bcause my hubby knows i would rather take pics of him.

he found out that a male model on MM had asked me to shoot him, and saw that i had declined. ( i personally didnt feel comfortable with it, because he wanted something a little bit more than posing in his chonies.)

my hubby came right at me and told me he would have been ok with it, and offered to help me with lighting and hold the reflector. i was shocked..it was kinda cute seeing how sincere he was.. and thats not often coming from a big grumpy marine.

but when he was doing all that crazy crap.. i wanted to punch him in the face anytime he took a breath in the wrong direction. i was insecure about my body, about my mind, about how insecure everything was with always moving. and i was angry.

it does sound like this girl is after a little more than just some photos. i would drop it as soon as possible, because it is not worth doing this to your wife. she is the one who said she would love honor and cherrish you.. not this chick.

i would talk to her about future situations, and ask her to be your assistant on the shoots, and that you want her apart of your photography thing like that.

but its not worth taking pics of this chick because shes willing. it sounds like shes got more on her agenda than it sounds.

geez i ramble way too much.

[The Mack]

so your post says men are relaxed and ok with it and women aren't? :)
jk

[gdrMatt]

women are jealous.. :rolleyes: if your wives got mad at you for doing something you would enjoy, can't trust you to shoot some girl in a bikini or hang at a strip club, i don't think your marriage would last to long. trust is an important part of a relationship.

[EL Photo]

I remember those coffee stops on my business trips to Washington. Take a snapshot of her during class or right after and post it here to see if she would be worth the divorce, big $$ loss, lawyers, and heart ache. We can help you judge :)

J/K..

I would say invite the wife, or politely decline...

[z-monster]

Dude,

I would politely decline the offer. No reason needs to be given other than you aren't interested. Not only is there an issue with your spouse but you also stated that you have no experience in this type of photography. This girl seems to have intentions for which you may not be prepared to deal with and thus will lead you to disaster as both a loving husband and a photographer.

There always have been and always will be other opportunities to photograph women. I would suggest you attend a workshop. Perhaps get together with other photographers in your area during a shoot together like what strobists do.

The only way I see you getting your way with this is through proper communication with family and time. Because, it also seems as though you just bombarded your wife with this situation. Which can be quite a shock to the soul if you've never expressed interest to her in this side of photography before.

[harroz]

Pass on this one. Have a good long convo with your wife explaining that you would like to not pass up opportunities like this in the future because it is a chance to broaden your horizons, but would like her to be there with you on the shoots. Once she realizes this and has done a couple she'll pretty much leave you to it. Wives 'ideas' of what goes on at a shoot is totally different to what actually happens. If you're professional ofcourse.

[joruiz]

against: more than 10..

in favor: like 1 or 2..

so, what's going to be? :D

[SpeedkingXSi]

send her my way =)

[BrendanT]

O/P.....What'd you do in the end?!?!?!?!?

[tomd]

O/P.....What'd you do in the end?!?!?!?!?


Yes, indeed- we need an update.

[DigitalSpecialist]

Like all the married men, and women. I agree that it is not worth your marital happiness!

Now, as a Professional with many years of shooting Models of all ages, and many in less than mentionable. I will tell you that I am NEVER ALONE with any of these ladies or gentlemen! I have MUA, and another company representative for me, and the model usually has a friend, or parent with them. I for one know my relationship is happy, and happy is the only way for it to remain solid. Trust comes with Respect, show her respect and she will trust you! And if your classmate still wants these photos shot, let her ask your wife. I am sure the fur will fly!!!

[binderInteractveMedia]

Testify! This is exactly what would happen, the steady progression, with each thing being more absurd than the last. You eventually reach a point where you're afraid to do anything, in spite of the fact that you know what might set the other person off is completely ridiculous.

This is where I am at right now. I can't take it any more and I cant stop being create because it is who I am. But my situation is I can't shoot any females at all with out her flipping out.

[DDCSD]

This is where I am at right now. I can't take it any more and I cant stop being create because it is who I am. But my situation is I can't shoot any females at all with out her flipping out.

Seriously, bring her along.

[woehlerking]

There is one scary word that no picture is worth.
HALF

[ghaleon109]

Seriously, bring her along.

I'm not married, so take it with a grain of salt but simply bringing her along may not be so "simple" or the best idea right off the bat...

I've been in the OP's shoes somewhat, my case is a bit different and gives more weight to the GF's side, but there is no easy answer. Do it and she'll flip out... Turn her down and the situation will arise again sooner than you think with a different person... Bring her along and she may just get pissed off more!

Your best bet is to talk about it... Get to the root of the problem, maybe it's something you've done in the past that has her acting this way, or maybe it's due to a completely unrelated matter! Your best bet (for both of you) is to find out why you want to take the pics, and why she has a problem with it. (IE: if you just want to take the photos because she's a "hot chick" then maybe it wouldn't be the best idea...) Let her know it'll be strictly professional and give her the option to come along though... (don't just say "well come with me then." chances are she'll turn down the offer anyways)

It is rough knowing that if the shoes were swapped you'd have no problem with it, trust me I know... but in all honesty people are all different, the girl you discribed may very likely have no intentions other than obtaining nice photos, but her personality would likely make it very difficult for your wife should she decide to attend the shoot.

I would pass this one up, but talk to the wife because if you don't pretty soon you'll just end up passing up everything that comes your way even if it is only SEMI-related...

[DDCSD]

I'm not married, so take it with a grain of salt but simply bringing her along may not be so "simple" or the best idea right off the bat...

I've been in the OP's shoes somewhat, my case is a bit different and gives more weight to the GF's side, but there is no easy answer. Do it and she'll flip out... Turn her down and the situation will arise again sooner than you think with a different person... Bring her along and she may just get pissed off more!

Your best bet is to talk about it... Get to the root of the problem, maybe it's something you've done in the past that has her acting this way, or maybe it's due to a completely unrelated matter! Your best bet (for both of you) is to find out why you want to take the pics, and why she has a problem with it. (IE: if you just want to take the photos because she's a "hot chick" then maybe it wouldn't be the best idea...) Let her know it'll be strictly professional and give her the option to come along though... (don't just say "well come with me then." chances are she'll turn down the offer anyways)

It is rough knowing that if the shoes were swapped you'd have no problem with it, trust me I know... but in all honesty people are all different, the girl you discribed may very likely have no intentions other than obtaining nice photos, but her personality would likely make it very difficult for your wife should she decide to attend the shoot.

I would pass this one up, but talk to the wife because if you don't pretty soon you'll just end up passing up everything that comes your way even if it is only SEMI-related...

Great advice. Actually kind of what I said much earlier in the thread to the OP.

If you want to do things that your significant other doesn't want you to do, it is time to either put their mind at ease or find someone else to spend your time with.

In the case of the OP, I don't think you could rectify this particular situation. In the case of Binder IM, if you want to shoot models in general and keep your significant other happy, you need to bring her along to show her that you're not just using your camera to get girls in bed.

[ghaleon109]

Great advice. Actually kind of what I said much earlier in the thread to the OP.

Agreed, a lot of others have been giving really good advice as well. It's been awhile since the OP, curious as to what he's decided...

I'ts just something that's not going to go away overnight, so deal with it sooner rather than later!

[Grace]

I guess that's one of the benefits of being a female photographer, nobody really questions my motives on shooting naked women.

:)

I wouldn't do the shoot if I knew my spouse didn't want me to.

"Sometimes you lose the battles to win" - my wonderfully wise grandmother

[Grace]

Oh yeah, since it is a week old...hows it going?

[cdifoto]

Have some serious crazy monkey sex with the wife right before the photo shoot. Even if the model does want hanky panky, the wife will know you're already spent and can't do anything anyway.

Or send the model to me.

[FlyingPhotog]

Have some serious crazy monkey sex with the wife right before the photo shoot. Even if the model does want hanky panky, the wife will know you're already spent and can't do anything anyway.

Or send the model to me.

Always with the timely and practical advice...!

What a guy! ;)

[b8264d]

I've read every post in this thread and I must say I'm impressed. You've got alot of great advice on not to do it and I would recommend you follow them more than the advice I'm about to give you. Because I'm saying you should do the shoot. Why? Because your a photographer. You want to learn how to do portraits? This is part of the process, this is a type of portrait. Do it.

I've been married for nearly twenty years, my marriage isn't the best nor am I the best husband in the world, however I am very passionate about my hobby and my wife knows it. She also knows that if I want to photograph something, she won't be able to stop me. That's just the way I am and she's had to learn to live with that or leave me. What you need to decide is would the experience be worth it? Would shooting this girl be worth the knowledge and possible pain you and your wife would go through? If you have to ask, then you already know the answer.

Oh, and wife thinks I've slept with at least one, if not all the models I've photographed. She also thinks I've slept with her sister. Yeah, she's got issues, but I love her any way. There's only been one woman in my heart and bed and that has been her. If she doesn't believe me, then that is her problem not mine. Follow your heart.

[Nathan]

How about telling your wife that you'd like to photograph her instead? Forget the barrista, your wife is your mojo.

[Sharpstat]

HAHA, she went to nursing school, used to come back home from the hospital and tell me how big some dudes junk was. She still tells me about it. No big deal to me, it's part of her job. That's the part I can't figure out, why she is being the way she is. I really think it is her sister stuff or something.

I have been trying to lose some weight, going to the gym, and eating right, maybe she feels inferior or something. Not sure. Like maybe I am getting in shape for someone else. I really don't know. I am trying to lose some weight before I graduate, a slimmer guy I feel looks more professional in a job interview then a guy with his gut hanging over his belt.



It's called a "double standard".;) It's the fact that someone other than her is giving you "attention" add the fact she(the Barista) is attractive. (Ever notice no matter how hot a woman looks if another one that's equal to or greater walks into the room and then suddenly the claws come out)? I would leave it alone or you and your wife will have further issues. I would not let your wife accompany you, I believe you're asking for even more trouble with her standing there seething while you shoot your photos.Especially if the model likes you and has hinted that she wants more. Some women cannot stand to see that you are happy at that time and she's not, a receipe for disaster. Ask your wife besides her sister how many others does she know that have taken G&N pictures and had them posted on the internet. I'm guessing the Sister in law is not telling your wife all of the story IMHO. If you really want to cause trouble ask her how many times she's been hit on in Nursing school? I use to hit on the Nurses all of the time when we came into the ER to drop off a patient. That's how I ended up married for 9 years, My now ex wife who is an RN would tell me some interesting stories. Good luck.

[LBaldwin]

Have some serious crazy monkey sex with the wife right before the photo shoot. Even if the model does want hanky panky, the wife will know you're already spent and can't do anything anyway.

Or send the model to me.

So I can just tell the wifey that we need to have nookie-nookie prior to my shoots? Cool - does it work when I am shooting food too? lol

[SpeedkingXSi]

it's the holidays...buy her a diamond...it'll end all fights

[Luminarex]

Why is it that people think they own each other's genitals just because they want to spend the rest of their life with them? Marriage is a government contract that states if you die that person gets your crap, it doesn't mean they own you while you're alive.

Unless you're religious, in which case I guess marriage would mean something else entirely (some sort of abstract union of spirits, etc).

[tomd]

I have a will that directs who gets all my crap when I die. My marriage agreement is for other purposes.

[Luminarex]

I have a will that directs who gets all my crap when I die. My marriage agreement is for other purposes.

Funny how we can all look at the same practice and view it in different ways.

One person views marriage as a contract.
Another views it as a commitment to God.
Then there are people who believe it is a symbolic gesture of love.
Some get married for the tax write offs.
There are even a few who want to get married just because they can't.

*Shrugs*

[Luminarex]

My suggestion to the thread starter: Talk to your wife, not us. If you're asking us to help you figure out a way to take photos of this other woman then you should introspect and ask yourself what your true motives are. Do you want to photograph her because she's paying you for your service, just for the experience, or because she's "really hot"? If you think she's "really hot" and you value your marriage it would probably be a good idea to pass on the shoot and respect your wife who isn't comfortable with it. If you want to ruin your marriage then don't respect your wife. That's how most men screw up a good thing. You won't be the first.

[tripsis]

Uh, I don't think so. This girl still wants me to take photos of her. I kinda want to myself, since my wife won't let me photograph her.
You want to because your wife won't let you..?

Either way, which do you value more:

1 bikini photo shoot with a 'hot girl' (basically a one night stand, if you will).

OR

Your marriage..?

Honestly the choice should be simple. If you really really really want to go, talk to your wife, ask her if she wants to tag a long to make sure you keep your pants on. If you don't want to or can't talk to your wife, then don't go. If you go behind your wife's back, then you'll actually be giving her a reason not to trust you.

[DDCSD]

Funny how we can all look at the same practice and view it in different ways.

One person views marriage as a contract.
Another views it as a commitment to God.
Then there are people who believe it is a symbolic gesture of love.
Some get married for the tax write offs.
There are even a few who want to get married just because they can't.

*Shrugs*

Actually, Tom's right. Only a will directs where your assets go. A marriage certificate does not ensure that your assets will go to your spouse. A will is still needed for that, even when married. Your crap usually will go to your spouse, but again there is no guarantee without a will.

[flipstyle72]

hahaha...how in the world did I miss this thread? I'm gonna have to go back and find out what was the final decision.... anyone want to save me the trouble?

Anyways, better late than never right? So My advice is... Don't do it if you don't want to start crap in the homefront. But some things to ponder (I'm sure already stated)

The fact that the wife came unglued shows she has some trust issues...potentially very bad situtation will eventually arise from this. Find the source...May not even be your doing, but scars from a former lover.

2nd, the fact that you considered doing it anyway says...haha...you a dirty dog man! And more than likely already a little fed up of the wife's jealousy and more than likely overbearing ways. But what do I know from only reading 1 post about your marital situation. I find this interesting...


Good luck! Congrats, or condolences...whichever decision you made and to however you ultimately felt about it! Bravo for making that post!

[FlyingPhotog]

Actually, Tom's right. Only a will directs where your assets go. A marriage certificate does not ensure that your assets will go to your spouse. A will is still needed for that, even when married. Your crap usually will go to your spouse, but again there is no guarantee without a will.

In Arizona the surviving spouse gets everything unless a will / trust says otherwise.

This directly from my neighbor who is a probate attorney and from experience gained burying my father.

[Luminarex]

Actually, Tom's right. Only a will directs where your assets go. A marriage certificate does not ensure that your assets will go to your spouse. A will is still needed for that, even when married. Your crap usually will go to your spouse, but again there is no guarantee without a will.

I suppose it depends on the situation. My wife and I got married when I was 23 and she was 18. We share everything and we've worked together to get everything that we have, so if something happens to me she'll get all of it. If somebody tries to take it from her she'll burn it before they get it so I'm not too worried about it. Hell, we likely never would have gotten married if everybody had just left us alone. Apparently there's a man in the sky who gets angry whenever we bump uglies without permission from the church.

[gdrMatt]

You want to because your wife won't let you..?

Either way, which do you value more:

1 bikini photo shoot with a 'hot girl' (basically a one night stand, if you will).

OR

Your marriage..?

Honestly the choice should be simple.

it should be simple.. if your wife does not trust you to take photos of another women in a bikini. then dump the wife. marriage should be about trust and making each others lives better.

but thats coming from a single guy that doesn't need to ask permission, like a little kid, to do something i would enjoy.. lol

[tripsis]

it should be simple.. if your wife does not trust you to take photos of another women in a bikini. then dump the wife. marriage should be about trust and making each others lives better.

but thats coming from a single guy that doesn't need to ask permission, like a little kid, to do something i would enjoy.. lol
So if you're married to someone you love and your wife is having a hard time letting you be around a hot girl in a bikini for a few hours, you're just going to dump her? That's pretty insensitive. If you're going to give up anything that doesn't come easy, you're not going to get very far. If there are problems between you and your spouse you shouldn't just give up, you should work through them.

I don't think there's anything wrong with a girl being a little torn up because her husband comes home and says, "Honey, I saw a really hot chick today and she wants me to take some photos of her half naked. See you in a few hours!" Obviously I don't know how the OP worded it, but from reading his post, I'm not surprised that the wife is having trust issues.

[gdrMatt]

If my wife came home and said she was going to go shoot some hot model guy in a bathing suit on the beach i would say "have fun", not give her a hard time about it.. If it makes her happy and she gains experience from it, i wouldn't have any problem with it.. if I married her, I trust her to not cheat..

There's other problems in the relationship if the OP's wife has a problem with it..

[Luminarex]

it should be simple.. if your wife does not trust you to take photos of another women in a bikini. then dump the wife. marriage should be about trust and making each others lives better.

but thats coming from a single guy that doesn't need to ask permission, like a little kid, to do something i would enjoy.. lol

You're forgetting that he's already stated that the woman is "really hot". His wife should dump him, he clearly doesn't have any respect for her at all. If you get married of your own free will then marriage means something to you. If it doesn't mean anything to you then stay single or get divorced. Unless you just got married because family wouldn't leave you alone about it and you wanted to be together without all their drama. If you want an open relationship then discuss it with your wife. If she doesn't want that sort of relationship then either respect her enough not to do it or respect her enough to offer her a divorce. Don't screw her over though. Women have been screwed over too many times by men as it is.

[gdrMatt]

would it make any difference if she was ugly ?

[arizona85224]

sad when your wife doesn't trust you.........what else does she have control over?

[cryforashadow]

Actually I don't think it's about trust. I think it's pretty normal that his WIFE doesn't want him to shoot a "hot" girl half naked. It's only natural. It doesn't mean she doesn't trust her husband, it means she's being sensible. A man and a "hot girl half naked" in a room alone. And he insists on doing the shoot. I mean come on.

[arizona85224]

Actually I don't think it's about trust. I think it's pretty normal that his WIFE doesn't want him to shoot a "hot" girl half naked. It's only natural. It doesn't mean she doesn't trust her husband, it means she's being sensible. A man and a "hot girl half naked" in a room alone. And he insists on doing the shoot. I mean come on.


thats funny

[taquintana07]

moments like this i thank god im single..lol, but just talk to your wife you know im sure you two will find a compromise

[JasonRussell]

I think it kinda goes back to how much experience you have in the hobby. If you are just starting out and havent done any or very few photoshoots, I can see where she is coming from. Now if you were a full time photogrpaher with years under your belt shooting girls in situations like this or just having paying shots in general, she should not have a problem with it because after all it is your job.

A few years back I landed a gig with another photographer shooting beauty pageants. My wife at the time could not stand the fact that I would be out of town, in a hotel for 5 days shooting beautiful girls. Well that put it over the top for me. Her trust issues and jealousy had gotten so bad that they were going to keep me from advancing my career as a photographer and gaining experience. There were signs of her jealousy and untrusting nature in the past.

I had done nothing in the past at all to make her doubt our trust for eachother. I sat down with her and we talked it out. She was ok with everything. Two weeks later as I was prepairing for the next pageant it started all over again. Personally that was something I was not going to let stop me from going. I told her that if she did not trust me, we needed to sit down and talk to somebody and find out what was really going on. She declined and said it was only because she didnt want me going.

I went. She is now my exwife. Her decission. Just something to think about.

My girlfriend now tries very hard to get me photo gigs. Doesnt matter what Im shooting aslong as its something I can learn from and get paid doing.

[HammerCope]

It come down to wears the pants you are her. You also said she is a nurse and coments on guys junk. Well tell her if she does not want to shooting the young lady thats fine. Then she will have to tell her boss that she can no longer treat men at her job.

[kenwood33]

which school do you go to and what class is this girl and her company taking next year?

[Icebergster]

Give her my number.....

[saturnin]

FYI..women are crazy.. cuz you know.. we as "men" sleep with anything that walks right.. sigh...

[taquintana07]

I went. She is now my exwife. Her decission. Just something to think about.



Manster right here!! Good on you bro:cool:

[JasonRussell]

Manster right here!! Good on you bro:cool:
Well its like I said, there was more that lead up to this but it was the final straw. I wasnt about to put up with that the rest of my life. I dont deserve it. I deserve to be happy and she wasnt willing to give an inch.

[FrankieG]

I think if she can't trust you to take pictures of another woman dressed or not then there really is a bigger problem than photography. If she can't trust you because you cheated on her before then we can't blame her either. Like someone mentioned earlier in this post, what will she stop you from doing next? Sometimes you have to stand up for yourself and be alive. Do what you truly want to do as long as you don't hurt anyone or yourself.

[Astheros]

You're forgetting that he's already stated that the woman is "really hot". His wife should dump him, he clearly doesn't have any respect for her at all. If you get married of your own free will then marriage means something to you. If it doesn't mean anything to you then stay single or get divorced. Unless you just got married because family wouldn't leave you alone about it and you wanted to be together without all their drama. If you want an open relationship then discuss it with your wife. If she doesn't want that sort of relationship then either respect her enough not to do it or respect her enough to offer her a divorce. Don't screw her over though. Women have been screwed over too many times by men as it is.

wow. such an emotion filled argument with no base. so would it be any different if he said beautiful. photography is always better with beautiful/hot people. how many monkeys do you see in nude/glamour shots? so when ure married ure not allowed to think anyone is hot/beautiful/gorgeous/etc.

to the OP. i am not married...i would say dont do the shoot but make sure this is something you talk about with your wife. photography is something you love and shes prohibiting you from following your needs to be able to express yourself. make sure this is not a recurring problem...if you just dont do it and dont say anything...its on like donkey kong. shell assume all she has to do is say no for any future times and youll never have an opportunity to increase your skills beyong those that please your wife.

[EMiNd09]

I still want to know what ended up happening to the OP! haha

[mpeters]

I don't know how much this gal is offering to pay you, but a divorce attorney is about $175 an hour......

[JasonRussell]

Since the OP hast responded Ill assume that he did the shoot, his wife found out, he is now on the streets without internetz!

But we all know what happens when one assumes :)

[lilmill]

I have gone through the same thing, only I paid in workshops. I let the wife see all the picture ( i have nothing to hide) and I tell her, its for the experience, so either I pay for other girls or she poses. Well I guess i'm paying because she aint posing.

[ALaS]

Where are all of these chicks asking me to photograph them half naked?

How did she know you shoot pictures?

[SlowBlink]

Told the girl today that my wife was not happy, and she says that my wife must have some problems, and that maybe we should make her jealous. :-o

Tell her your wife is very open minded and it would take a LOT to make her jealous. Just throwin it out there. :) kidding

[Dooms_day]

lol haha thats prety good. id so tell people about this at parties & whatnot

but yeah i wouldnt do it if i LOVED MY WIFE, just a hint lol

[Thomas G]

Send her my way. My wife doesn't mind me taking photos of chicks even nudes. I live just down the road in North Bend. :)

[Balliolman]

Walk away ...

[elysium]

Yes, either bring your wife along, or don't do it at all.

Oh, and see a marriage counselor to work on those trust issues. :)
I would leave this as the answer.

Is a marriage worth risking for a shoot that she is unhappy about?

[coalcliff]

Man this thread needs more pics!

[mrbojangles13]

seven pages and no pics? lol throw a head shot up, im curious lol. ok well you need to look at it this way.... is this the kind of stuff you want to do? if you want to get into this stuff, you have to eventually start taking pics of models. your wife needs to understand this. if you are doing this to just do it... forget about it and say no. if you want to do this kind of thing, explain to your wife and go take pics of this cofee girl! blam the end!

[LW Dail]

I have to say that I'm proud of most of you guys for your insight.

My cynical woman side would say that by now you guys would have gotten to "Screw the wife, it's your art and she needs to accept it!"

Nicely played guys! Women (and men) are insecure. We need reassurances from our spouses, and we need to know/trust our spouses.

If, after an honest discussion, a spouse has an issue with something - respect their position and don't do it.

I'm very proud of all of you!

[DDCSD]

I have to say that I'm proud of most of you guys for your insight.

My cynical woman side would say that by now you guys would have gotten to "Screw the wife, it's your art and she needs to accept it!"

Nicely played guys! Women (and men) are insecure. We need reassurances from our spouses, and we need to know/trust our spouses.

If, after an honest discussion, a spouse has an issue with something - respect their position and don't do it.

I'm very proud of all of you!

We're just saying this stuff in case our wives happen to read this. ;)

[deemarie]

I also agree, as a woman I am surprised at the amount of guys that are saying it is "not worth it" For the people that are saying dump the wife if she doesn't trust you. . . we don't know how the OP brought it up to her, from the original post it seems like the poster wanted to do it because she was a "hot girl, very hot girl."
Also the girl saying let's make your wife jelous is just disrespectful and I wouldn't want to photograph anyone who is so disrespectful to my other half no matter how hot they were.

[muscleflex]

dudes - the OP has NOT responded since the 2nd day of his post.... last year!!!



i didn't want to contribute but just had to tell you all!

[LW Dail]

dudes - the OP has NOT responded since the 2nd day of his post.... last year!!!



i didn't want to contribute but just had to tell you all!


Yeah - isn't that cool!

Actually, he went with that first bit of advice, which summarized, went something like "you're an artist dude - if wifey can't handle it, screw her..."

Unfortunately, the OP is still in traction. I belive the feeding tube will be removed next week!

[SlowBlink]

I believe he requested all male nursing staff as well. At least he learned from his first mistake. :)

[FlikChick]

Personally from a "womans" point of view...jeesh all these married men. Even though this post is a bit late. I think this girl is shady, meaning she's asking for bikini shots now n simple stuff,then she'll get more crazier,that's IF she's actually serious about it. AND just because your a not the ideal body that is attractive or whatever, it still doesn;t mean she doesn't have anything else in mind. Also knowing her personally because it's in school is little out of bounds. Stick to more serious and professional shoots and models. I can understand your wife's feelings. There should be some level of understanding, but try to see it from her standpoint too. I've been asked to take nude photos for couples and individuals, and my bf at the time was NOT happy. It's also kind of a weird vibe when I'm shooting, I don't know why but I don't feel comfortable,if it was actual models then yes, I'd be ok. But random requests like this is stupid. Just my 2c

Overall I woulda said walk away too. And the contract thing sounds good, gives it more credit.

[FlikChick]

Another thing, just because you say to your wife that you don't mean to do anything and you dont mess with any other girls. You said yourself that you LOOK alot, but never touch. It's also the feelings you get when you think about those girls and how hot they are. Sometimes it "shows" in your face, or the way you talk about it, and sometimes a wife just "knows" when her husband means something else other than what he says....it's reading between the lines buddy

[mrtopdog2000]

It come down to wears the pants you are her. You also said she is a nurse and coments on guys junk. Well tell her if she does not want to shooting the young lady thats fine. Then she will have to tell her boss that she can no longer treat men at her job.

I agree, not about the "who wears the pants" part, everything else in this post. She comes home making comments on the size of another man's junk, and does it repeatedly, but yet she has a problem of you taking pictures of a clothed person. It seems like she's being somewhat of a hypocrite. I understand that in her profession that seeing a man's junk comes with the territory , but her coming home and repeated bragging about it isn't showing any respect for you at all. It seems that there are bigger issues here than photography. No offense to the wife, but it seems as if she's somewhat of a control freak, do as I say, not as I do sort of person. I say invite her to come along on the shoot, and draw up a contract with this model. If your wife still objects, and you always give in, then kiss that aspect of your photography career goodbye. Good luck.

[Stealthy Ninja]

Stereotypically...
Woman are too emotional.

Men are just animals (with one thing on their mind).

See the problem. ;)

Seems to me a "flirty" girl asking for "sensuous" shots is a recipe for something (if you're married it isn't gonna taste too good I tells ya).

[SlowBlink]

Is it true you can kill a man with a sharpened banana?

[Stealthy Ninja]

Me? I can kill someone with a blunt banana!

I hear you like dog butts... :shock:

[YORCHI]

what a thread...I can't believe I read through all 8 pages and still no pics :lol:

on the serious side though...my wife and I are completely comfortable and trusting with each other and other people. I've had a few "photographers" offer to photograph her and she knows better than to get herself in a risky situation.

We live by the..."would I like it if he/she was doing the same thing" scenario...and it's worked out for us 80% of the time

I know it doesn't accurately apply here since she's married, but would you be okay if she was posing for someone or if she was photographing someone???

with all that being said...you have to open the communication and establish the ground rules. If she has a trust issue then you need to help her get over it. If you're just doing this because you wanna see a hot girl in her lingerie, then you need to be honest with yourself and realize that you might be setting yourself up for failure. If it's strictly professional then insist that your wife come with you to help or at the very least meet the girl to go over what the shoot will consist of. If she still has issues then that is definitely something she needs to fix.

p.s...post some pictures!

[snyper77]

I know what you're dealing with. As a matter of fact, it sounds like we married sisters. Now, my opinion is..... become a single man.....and enjoy ALL the women that your camera and talents will land for you. Otherwise, get use to the nonstop naggin' and bitchin'. It's called "marriage".
Just think.... all the women you'll meet (and date, etc.) if you ran an ad for "My Space photo session for only $99" where you would shoot them for 1 hour, give them a CD of the pics, you get their phone number and probably a date, oh, and you make $99 in an hour. See where this is headed? Yes, even taking them out on a date is a hassle many times.... but they won't be naggin' and bitchin' at you like a WIFE WILL BE FOR THE REST OF YOUR NATURAL BORN LIFE. :)

[yokotas13]

I told my wife to deal with it. If she cant trust me, then we have a problem to begin with. Now when i shoot nudes, she does the editing. it works out well

[GregMik]

I know what you're dealing with. As a matter of fact, it sounds like we married sisters. Now, my opinion is..... become a single man.....and enjoy ALL the women that your camera and talents will land for you. Otherwise, get use to the nonstop naggin' and bitchin'. It's called "marriage".
Just think.... all the women you'll meet (and date, etc.) if you ran an ad for "My Space photo session for only $99" where you would shoot them for 1 hour, give them a CD of the pics, you get their phone number and probably a date, oh, and you make $99 in an hour. See where this is headed? Yes, even taking them out on a date is a hassle many times.... but they won't be naggin' and bitchin' at you like a WIFE WILL BE FOR THE REST OF YOUR NATURAL BORN LIFE. :)

There is a word for it......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDf0wl0SUXo

Greg

[mrgtturbo]

You shoot this girl, your wife shoots you, this girl then needs to see your widowed wife for the shots, I suspect more shooting.

For once I am happy to be living in Maine. lol

Aaron

[SteveBrown]

O/P.....What'd you do in the end?!?!?!?!?

Wow, I totally forgot about this thread. In the end, I said no. My wife however did let me take some private photos of her, but swore if I posted them she would cut my manhood off with a pair of rusty scissors.

So no photos. I just went back to school for the spring quarter and saw the girl and told me she had them done by a pro and it cost her $250. She said she would e-mail me them, when I get them, I will post them up.

Can't believe this is a 8 page thread. :oops:

[hawk911]

I just went back to school for the spring quarter and saw the girl and told me she had them done by a pro and it cost her $250. She said she would e-mail me them, when I get them, I will post them up.

Can't believe this is a 8 page thread. :oops:

now if that isn't asking for trouble... you watch Two and a half men last night?

[SteveBrown]

nah

[geo1976]

I was about to ask what happened to the OP. I thought the wife might've done something to ya.lol

[k_wakasugi]

So your wife is okay with her e-mailing you the photos, but not you taking them? If I were your wife I wouldn't really see the need for her to send you those photos... but I'm not your wife, so please do post :D

[epatt250]

My wife doesn't care so if you get guilty she can email them to me and I would be happy to post them.

[hawk911]

So your wife is okay with her e-mailing you the photos, but not you taking them? If I were your wife I wouldn't really see the need for her to send you those photos... but I'm not your wife, so please do post :D

I know where my wife would be; right on top of the delete button

[SlowBlink]

I'm divorced, nuff said. :oops:

[bikoe2]

I'll check back for the post.... we have all been eagerly waiting.... lol

[Sharpstat]

Steve,

Hey we all tried to contribute advice so stop being a tease and show the picture/s already.:D

[Karsty]

I took my camera to school last Friday for a field trip and a hot, very hot girl who sits next to me in English class asked if I would photograph her for her company. I was thinking for a business card or something. Anyways, she is a barista at the hot hut coffee shop here in Tacoma, and wants pictures of her in her bikini and lingerie. I told her I would get back to her. I really have no clue what or how to take these pictures.

I was going to ask for some advice, but I told my wife about it and she came unglued to say the least. Thinks I'm sleeping with this chic. :rolleyes: WOW, try and be honest, and I get slammed. Told the girl today that my wife was not happy, and she says that my wife must have some problems, and that maybe we should make her jealous. :-o

Uh, I don't think so. This girl still wants me to take photos of her. I kinda want to myself, since my wife won't let me photograph her.

Any comments or suggestions?


Seems to me that you need to write to Ann Launders or Dear Abbey ... send the hot coffee chick my email and I'll take care of all her photo needs.

Problem solved!!! Glad I could help!!

[S.Horton]

Skip the whole scene, book a slot on Jerry Springer, make the $$ that way.

[Karl Johnston]

So was the issue resolved? I haven't read more than 3 pages of this thread. Are there pictures of the hot girl in the bikini? :D

[SteveBrown]

Steve,

Hey we all tried to contribute advice so stop being a tease and show the picture/s already.:D

I never got them, I had to leave school a week early for a death in the family. So I never got to see her and remind her. But this is one she let me take with my POS camera when I stopped in and got coffee a few months back.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/gasitman/alisa.jpg

[tomd]

I'd go back to school ;)

[BeritOlam]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/gasitman/alisa.jpg

That'll make a lot of women jealous!!!!!

:D :D :D

[Stealthy Ninja]

That girl serves coffee dressed like that?! Ah... now I see the problem. :shock:

[Yola]

I giggled when I read this thread .. however I found it serious as well .

Eye candy is for men and for women ! Really .


We are both combined into one aspect ...design...plus sexy .

That may be a guy that is hot and a women that is hot , yet it means MORE ....

Is a women that says " kiss my Macy's arse in a window worth a million " try too take my pic is she wrong ???? {this is a NY women smart sexy and hot }

pssss nottt me .

HMMM...........Or is a guy that only see's 20 + women as sexy ?

Eye candy ... is something too SEE inside YOURSELF. Its Yours ....... a gift .

Now script and portrait it significantly. Both me and women as anend result.

Challenge yourself [ I have had too many pics taken of myself and now I am behind the camera and love it ]

Yes , I am marride and if my husband takes pic's of women other then me I will KILL him lol ..........after knowing what I look like.

Plus the hair{wig/ eye lashes / spray taning / plus add -ons } and makeup changes .
15 yrs of being in front of a camera ... and now with dancing with stars on TV yeah , he is dead !!! LoL

Live ........... Laugh ... and Spank the Dream ... Yola

Sorry for the a kick ...off p'od wify ..No BAT gamed .

[Stealthy Ninja]

I giggled when I read this thread .. however I found it serious as well .

Eye candy is for men and for women ! Really .


We are both combined into one aspect ...design...plus sexy .

That may be a guy that is hot and a women that is hot , yet it means MORE ....

Is a women that says " kiss my Macy's arse in a window worth a million " try too take my pic is she wrong ???? {this is a NY women smart sexy and hot }

pssss nottt me .

HMMM...........Or is a guy that only see's 20 + women as sexy ?

Eye candy ... is something too SEE inside YOURSELF. Its Yours ....... a gift .

Now script and portrait it significantly. Both me and women as anend result.

Challenge yourself [ I have had too many pics taken of myself and now I am behind the camera and love it ]

Yes , I am marride and if my husband takes pic's of women other then me I will KILL him lol ..........after knowing what I look like.

Plus the hair{wig/ eye lashes / spray taning / plus add -ons } and makeup changes .
15 yrs of being in front of a camera ... and now with dancing with stars on TV yeah , he is dead !!! LoL

Live ........... Laugh ... and Spank the Dream ... Yola

Sorry for the a kick ...off p'od wify ..No BAT gamed .

That post was easy to read but hard to understand.

In other words... can I get some of those meds?! :lol:

[dmwierz]

I never got them, I had to leave school a week early for a death in the family. So I never got to see her and remind her. But this is one she let me take with my POS camera when I stopped in and got coffee a few months back.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/gasitman/alisa.jpg

I'm having trouble figuring out what kind of coffee bar would have their baristas dress like this and secondly, why for the love of Juan Valdez don't they open a location in my neighborhood?

I agree with the comment above - if I went in there with my wife I doubt we'd be going back again together. However, I can definitely see me becoming a regular patron "for the coffee".

[Stealthy Ninja]

^^^ yep... and you read "those" magazines for the articles.......... I mean photography magazines.... with... artful nudes in them.... of course.

[ants]

Wow...this coffee shop serve good coffee?

[deercreek]

Wow...this coffee shop serve good coffee?

Does it matter? ;)

[Stealthy Ninja]

It's a coffee shop? ;)

[SlowBlink]

Pffft!, it's a no brainer...wife gets half.

[Stealthy Ninja]

^^ LOL

So long as you get to keep the camera gear.

Seriously though. I can see why the OPs wife would be worried/jealous. The girl wants him to take a photo of her with a P&S. But wait, just let me take off my pants/skirt first (she says). Yep, nothing to worry about there.

:rolleyes:

[Kazdog]

Sounds to me like barista chick knows she is hot and wants hot pictures to post on her online dating profile .. or to casually leave out on the coffee table not for her company... Come..on... she said " maybe we should make your wife jealous" she's an insitigator and a manipulater.

with respects to you and your wife however, drag her along to your photo shoots and make her see there is nothing going on, dont' let her say no to the first few. And offer to shoot her all sexified in a pair of red heels and a little nurse hat. jealousy comes from insecuritiy and lack of self confidence. obviously we pick beautiful people for pictures and your wife knows that, especially if photography is what you want as your profession.. if its a hobby..
work on that and as you grow as a photographer she will become more willing to accept who you shoot and why and just constantly remind her .. its HER that you married for her inside and especially her gorgoues outside.. and not the barista or any other model out there.
thats my woman's perspective.. good luck~

[hawk911]

Pffft!, it's a no brainer...wife gets half.

I think if it came down to that, my gear would be in half- left half on the lawn, right half embedded in my skull :rolleyes:

[Mark II Shooter]

I was going to ask for some advice, but I told my wife about it and she came unglued to say the least. Thinks I'm sleeping with this chic. :rolleyes: WOW, try and be honest, and I get slammed. Told the girl today that my wife was not happy, and she says that my wife must have some problems, and that maybe we should make her jealous. :-o


Any comments or suggestions?[/quote]

Have your wife go with you and meet the girl, while you discuss the parameters of the shoot. Your wife can read all the non-verbals while this is going on & realize that she's legit.

If she still does not want you to do it...send her to a counselor each tuesday, while you visit the coffee hut! (devilish grin) Just kidding my friend. Give her a face to face chance to she that she just looks like a jealous wife. Wouldn't be the first time for any of us I assure you!:confused:

[Stealthy Ninja]

The more I read this thread the more I think.

Dude, just don't bother.

[SlowBlink]

Why has no one suggested a three way? I could be a wonderful chance for you all to get to know each other and become life long friends. Go ahead and ask the wife, you can thank me later! :)

[Cosha]

amen to that...good luck ;)

[Stealthy Ninja]

Why has no one suggested a three way? I could be a wonderful chance for you all to get to know each other and become life long friends. Go ahead and ask the wife, you can thank me later! :)

Mmm advice like that would probably lead to a "one-way".... out the door.

Then a "one-way" when you're alone in your dingy flat. :lol:

[NickSimcheck]

I didn't get to see the photo...

[Cosha]

no me either...

after all the hot topics.."this image has been removed by user"

doh

[tomd]

I didn't get to see the photo...

:lol::lol: you missed out ;)

[Cosha]

was the person worth the time and ahem effort? :)