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canonnoob
27th of November 2008 (Thu), 16:06
Here are a few shots from the first games.. Enjoy!
http://davidwelker.zenfolio.com/f275292230
40Dude6aedyk
27th of November 2008 (Thu), 17:10
Thanks for sharing. I see you chose ISO 640, SS 1/640, 1/500 or 1/400. May I ask why not a higher ISO, say 1000 or 1250 and a faster shutter speed? Or same shutter speed to expose more?
canonnoob
27th of November 2008 (Thu), 17:12
I found it easier to just use iso 640.. it gave me a great ss for the basketball game.. there is very very little blur...
40Dude6aedyk
27th of November 2008 (Thu), 17:17
Hmmm, I'm not sure I understand your answer because it's just as easy to use ISO 800, 1000, 1250, .... Did you just pick aperture 3.5, then SS 1/500th, then dial in the lowest ISO number and check with chimping?
canonnoob
27th of November 2008 (Thu), 17:18
I really didnt want to have any noise reduction to do... and so I metered and made sure everything was alright.. I dont chimp
MJPhotos24
27th of November 2008 (Thu), 17:50
Post some samples you can actually see all the EXIF including levels - embed them because going to a site and looking through galleries is really annoying for most that just don't have the time. Anyways, 40D should be low noise, if any, at ISO 800 and 1000 if the exposure is right. SS you want more - 1/400 is not a great shutter speed and can see more than a few images with blur because of it. You're working in great light it seems, use it to your advantage.
Also, you're one of a few that don't chimp huh, never met a pro who doesn't so don't get why people view it as something that's wrong??? Depending on what definition of chimping you're using of course as some have it very very wrong.
canonnoob
27th of November 2008 (Thu), 17:55
I dont chimp while i shoot... ill go back at say halftime and check it i usually set up before the game to get the lighting correct. chimping to me is viewing images while in camera while doing a shoot... by the way...
cstewart
27th of November 2008 (Thu), 18:04
I dont chimp while i shoot... ill go back at say halftime and check it i usually set up before the game to get the lighting correct. chimping to me is viewing images while in camera while doing a shoot... by the way...
I can understand "chimping" so much that you miss some shots, but I don't know why so many seem to think it is a "bad" thing. A key benefit of the digital age is being able to see your image immediately after shooting it to make sure you have lighting correct, camera is working OK, etc. and to check every so often to ensure all is OK. I can't imagine not doing this and then finding through a simple wrong setting that you forgot to set that you have a whole half of photos that are improperly exposed, or whatever. Sometimes it pays to chimp too in the event that you have bumped something and accidentally changed a setting. You can catch this sooner rather than later. I've often accidently bumped the wheel on the vertical grip for my 40D which can change the shutter speed to a slower one and I don't catch this until I see a blurry overexposed image on the LCD.
Plus if you are shooting something outdoor in changing light, it pays to monitor your images and histogram in the event you need to adjust any of your settings.
MJPhotos24
27th of November 2008 (Thu), 18:14
Well the original definition was when you are looking through your images and find a great one and all of a sudden go "oh oh oh, look at this" - you know the monkey sound "ooh ooh ooh". Other variations now include looking through your shots and missing others because you're to busy looking at what you already got; as well as just looking at your images in general. I'll tell ya right now, if you're definition is just looking at your images - every pro does that to check exposure and make sure everything is right as conditions change and you need to as well. Indoor it's a bit easier as the light is more consistent (but not always), but outdoors it isn't as you don't have consistent light most the time. Also looking through your images a bit I can tell you that court is not even light wise. You did use ISO 800 and shutter ranges from 1/200 - 1/500 - so, this was either by accident or you were checking exposures - i.e., chimping. Tis' ok ya know, long as you're not missing shots because of it.
EDIT: Christian's right...didn't see it before posting this as well.
Croasdail
27th of November 2008 (Thu), 20:46
I dont chimp while i shoot... ill go back at say halftime and check it i usually set up before the game to get the lighting correct. chimping to me is viewing images while in camera while doing a shoot... by the way...
Well you should. Why fly blind if you don't need to. You can adjust you settings to optimize shooting, you can see how your timing is, you can see if you have all the standard shots done. Many reasons to chimp. The only thing wrong with it is if you miss "the" shot because you were preoccupied admiring your handiwork. Chimping is the sign of someone being careful, not vain.... though there are those who do it out of vanity. But checking to see if you really did get that shot that your going to transmit first... pros do it all the time.
KayakPhotos
27th of November 2008 (Thu), 20:53
Very well done shoot David. We need to get together sometime when I'm on campus. I'll give you a call. What lens were you using for these?
canonnoob
27th of November 2008 (Thu), 21:08
my sigma 70-200 2.8 thanks for the comments
KayakPhotos
27th of November 2008 (Thu), 22:59
How are you liking that lens so far? I am thinking of picking one up when I can save up some money. I tried out the canon IS version and found it to be superb, but it will be a while until I can afford a lens that expensive.
canonnoob
27th of November 2008 (Thu), 23:26
im lovin it.. if you look on my site.. the nature gallery is all with that lens... its amazing....
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