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londonandlawson
28th of November 2008 (Fri), 14:43
I have seen some people that seem as if they are on Canon's payroll, I just don't get it. You can prefer Canon but like other brands as well. I see this all the time on gaming forums, people are labeled "fanboys" that are hardcore for X product/game/system etc. I like Canon more than all but that doesn't mean I have to disregard everything else, it is childish.

JeffreyG
28th of November 2008 (Fri), 14:45
How far will this thread get before someone tells you to go buy a Nikon then?

If you complain about Canon niggles and design decisions too much someone will usually urge you to change systems. Apparently if you want to own Canon gear you must have fawning Canon deference.

FLYH2O
28th of November 2008 (Fri), 14:46
I would love to own a Nikon D700:cry:. I owned a Nikon D70 before my 40D and loved it so I am a Nikon/ Canon guy but can't afford the Nikon glass I want.:(

Bill Roberts
28th of November 2008 (Fri), 14:51
I care about Canon just about as much as they care about me...
It's convenient for *me* (at the moment) to use Canon gear, things can change. I'm not planning a change but I really don't have *any* loyalty to a company at all.

Raikiri
28th of November 2008 (Fri), 14:52
I'm not, I use some Sigma lenses and would love to get my hands on a D300/700 but the 400D offered the best price/performance for my budget.

samurairx7
28th of November 2008 (Fri), 15:08
me too i wish i can own both if i can afford it. It would be great, but i think most people here just invest too much in canon. Plus it's a canon forum lol i'm sure if u went to a nikon forum or etc it'll be no different

Permagrin
28th of November 2008 (Fri), 15:10
I'm about what works. If it works then it's good and if it doesn't it's not worth my time. I also have no desire to convince people to allegiances, one way or another. Just want them to be happy with how they spend their money. :lol:

20droger
28th of November 2008 (Fri), 15:11
Life is full of compromises. We use Canon because the compromises we had to make were ones we found acceptable. Nikon would have required other compromises, which we found unacceptable for us. For someone else, the reverse may be true.

For example, I think the Foveon sensor is the way to go, but if we had gone with the Sigma SD10, we would have been locked into Sigma-only glass. This was not an acceptable compromise.

With our 20D and 30D, we can use Canon glass, or Sigma, or Tamron, or Tokina. In fact, one of my wife's favorite lenses is a Sigma (the 150mm macro). By getting the Canon bodies, fewer compromises were made.

To say, however, that Canon is the end-all and be-all is purest BS. Each brand has its own advantages and its own disadvantages. The hardware purists lose sight of the fact that the object is to take pictures, not to own gear. One should use whatever equipment serves that end best for that individual.

Permagrin
28th of November 2008 (Fri), 15:12
To say, however, that Canon is the end-all and be-all is purest BS. Each brand has its own advantages and its own disadvantages. The hardware purists lose sight of the fact that the object is to take pictures, not to own gear. One should use whatever equipment serves that end best for that individual.

NICELY put!

Woolburr
28th of November 2008 (Fri), 15:32
I use what fits my needs...I've tried other brands, but for one reason or another they don't work for me. If the day comes that some other brand meets my needs, then I have no problem jumping ship. Every brand out there has pros and cons, you just need to select the one that provides the most pros for your needs.

jr_senator
28th of November 2008 (Fri), 15:41
I made the decision, a number of years back, to go with Canon. The single largest reason being that, at the time, Canon's sensors were superior to anything else out there. I have always liked Nikkor glass. In fact, one of my considerations at the time was whether I could use Nikkor's lenses. I am certainly not saying that Canon does not make some very, very good lenses. Until recently Canon's sensors have been head and shoulders above Nikon's. The truth is that if I were choosing a system now Nikon may well be my choice. This is due to the introduction of the D3 and D700. However, no matter which system I had/have, I would prefer, as a general rule, that system's brand of lenses and flashes. I am way, way too comitted money wise to consider changing to a different system. I'm happy with the choice I made and still am.

bohdank
28th of November 2008 (Fri), 17:30
When all is said and done......if you were to look at 2 images side by side, I doubt anyone could tell whether one was shot with a Nikon, and the other with a Canon, or whatever.

I do know that it would be immediately recognizable who was the better photographer.

DozerLYP
28th of November 2008 (Fri), 17:34
If I could afford it, I would switch to Hasseldald (http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/18/hasselblad-rolls-out-39-megapixel-h3d-ii-dslr/) :rolleyes:

CyberDyneSystems
28th of November 2008 (Fri), 17:49
How far will this thread get before someone tells you to go buy a Nikon then?

If you complain about Canon niggles and design decisions too much someone will usually urge you to change systems. Apparently if you want to own Canon gear you must have fawning Canon deference.

No one told me this!! :lol:

Personally, I feel have always been outspoken in providing my own opinions on where Canon can improve there equipment from pretty early on. (whether anyone else cares or not)
I would even go so far as to suggest, (perhaps over egotistically ) that Canon often has listened and has granted some of these wishes formed on this very forum.

Therefore I would plead, Please, never stop asking for more.

Also, everyone makes something better than others. We talk about other lenses, flashes etc.. there are plenty of niches where Canon can learn a thing or two in this market.


I think the "knee jerk fanboy" reaction of telling someone to switch to another system is usually a result of baseless or somewhat ignorant rants as opposed to someone putting some thought into pointing out where Canon has room for improvement.
As with all things in life, delivery is important, especially when dealing with a group like an All Canon Forum.

BrokenRoad
28th of November 2008 (Fri), 17:55
I just favor Canon. It fits in my hand the best and it just feels right and well I like it.
I did make a comment on another thread of yours that was supposed to be light hearted. It's a Canon forum so I figured it would be taken that way.

S-S
28th of November 2008 (Fri), 18:00
well im not anti nikon... or sigma... never used tamron but if a good lens reached my hands im sure id use it too...

main reason i have canon right now is that 11 years ago i bought a canon eos 500 35mm system on the advice of a camera shop that it was the more comprehensive system of the day and was currently leading the market... and the price was right

i dont really like the controls on the nikon dslr but im sure if that was what i had id soon get used to it

photography is about the photographer, the camera equipment is just the medium. its like being against synthetic paint brushes and pro animal bristle... - as if it makes any real difference to the quality of the art

Menkaure
28th of November 2008 (Fri), 19:26
Have 2 printers... One Canon and one Epson. Love the Epson!

Jon
28th of November 2008 (Fri), 19:48
I've had one Canon filter and regularly advise people not to make that mistake again. I've also had lenses by Sigma, Tamron, VIvitar and Tokina that I wouldn't part with.

I agree with Wool - many of the people who come here and slam their Canon gear are guilty of not having done their research before buying. Most of us will accept a well-presented case for a gear problem, and support the party involved. But if someone comes on and complains that Canons suck because they zoom wide to tele by twisting the ring clockwise instead of CCW or some other such trivia, they deserve all the scorn they get.

Woolburr
28th of November 2008 (Fri), 21:58
I think I have that very same Canon filter Jon....evil incarnate!

RandyMN
28th of November 2008 (Fri), 22:07
I started out with the Canon A1, used that for years before switching to NIKON. I then used NIKON for years until Canon finally looked good digitally and I sold my Nikon F3 and F4 to get the Canon Rebel.

Since then I have upgraded to 20D, 40D and 50D but my lenses make it tough to go Nikon even though Nikon is looking good again!

Jon
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 09:18
I think I have that very same Canon filter Jon....evil incarnate!
52 mm Sky 1A? It's, aside from the name stencilled (and coming off) on the side, identical to a Quantaray 52 mm Sky 1A I also possess. Don't ask!

Woolburr
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 09:30
This is a 58mm version....that was tossed in as a freebie with the lens...I still want a refund!

jr_senator
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 09:43
Don't ask!

OK, I'll just remind you later sometime.:rolleyes:

Vortex99
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 09:53
This is a 58mm version....that was tossed in as a freebie with the lens...I still want a refund!

I want a refund on that one as well, perhaps we could start a petition to get the refund process started. lolo

thomascanty
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 11:06
Currently I have seven Canon cameras (four digital, three film). The camera I use most is my Olympus.

jr_senator
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 13:13
The camera I use most is my Olympus.

Because?

thomascanty
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 13:14
Because?

It's more convenient.

RaymondXTi
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 13:21
I got my Rebel because, in my price range, it was between the Nikon D40 and the Rebel XT. After using the D40 and the XT (through friends) and doing research online I decided the XT was a much better choice, and bought it.

Woolburr
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 16:40
I want a refund on that one as well, perhaps we could start a petition to get the refund process started. lolo

I guess there are at least 3 of us!

MDJAK
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 18:37
I use what fits my needs...I've tried other brands, but for one reason or another they don't work for me. If the day comes that some other brand meets my needs, then I have no problem jumping ship.

Personally, I would never jump ship. I can't swim all that well. :lol:

Currently I have seven Canon cameras (four digital, three film). The camera I use most is my Olympus.

Wacko. ;) :lol:
me

Woolburr
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 18:51
Personally, I would never jump ship. I can't swim all that well. :lol:
me

I heard tell they threw you off!

MDJAK
30th of November 2008 (Sun), 17:20
I heard tell they threw you off!

They did, but I grabbed the prop and hung on for dear life till we reached port.

fubarhouse
30th of November 2008 (Sun), 18:28
While I most certainly prefer 1st Party to 3rd Party, and I love Canon, I am open to the idea of using Nikon glass & cameras. The problem is they're just too expensive for me for the glass I require.

When Canon stop putting out and another brand can ofer me what I want in my budget, then I will consider moving.