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John E
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 09:43
It seems that I'm reading more and more threads about Nikon cameras lately in this forum. Many members who have bought Nikon cameras continue to hang around here as they feel welcome, and there is nothing equivalent (or as good) in the Nikon realm to discuss photography. I know this sounds crazy in a "Canon" forum, but should begin to include a designated "Nikon" section?

400dabuser
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 09:52
Are you asking God for the likes beelzebub to come to heaven?

capt_tast
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 10:54
Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.:p

Mark
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 10:55
What does it say in the top left corner of the page... yeah CANON forums... can't have a nikon section on a canon forum :D

Jamie Holladay
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 11:06
What does it say in the top left corner of the page... yeah CANON forums... can't have a nikon section on a canon forum :D
Maybe, maybe not, but Nikon users are more than welcome to contribute and learn here!

400dabuser
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 11:06
What does it say in the top left corner of the page... yeah CANON forums... can't have a nikon section on a canon forum :D


Exactly

Mark
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 11:48
Maybe, maybe not, but Nikon users are more than welcome to contribute and learn here!

Oh, most certainly, just can't really have a section labeled nikon in a canon forum :)

ImRaptor
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 12:14
Maybe it should stop being just a Canon forum?
I'm all for making this a digital photography forum with equipment sections.

SamClarkPhotography
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 12:30
:confused: Boo. Would rather see another Nikon site created, than this Canon one becoming just another general photography forum. What makes this forum so great is that Canon users are able to come to get specific information and gain knowledge regarding their cameras. Adding Nikons would only add confusion as we would have people using different lingos (Canon vs. Nikon) on here. Not to mention, we all know the Canons are better!;)

Keep the CANON DIGITAL PHOTOGRAPHY forum a CANON forum! :D:D:D

Photon Phil
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 12:33
Blasphemous!


(P.S. Anyone have a D3 I can borrow?)

400dabuser
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 13:12
Maybe it should stop being just a Canon forum?
I'm all for making this a digital photography forum with equipment sections.


Isn't this run by Canon though?

tommykjensen
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 13:14
Isn't this run by Canon though?

No this forum is run by Pekka and it is completely independant of Canon.

Jamie Holladay
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 13:14
Isn't this run by Canon though?
POTN has no affiliation with canon.

PhotoSportsOnline
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 13:18
Isn't this run by Canon though?

You might think so, and I am surprised that lighting bolts form heaven did not come crashing down on the OP's post ;) :rolleyes:

I think the reason your seeing many more Nikon words is simple, Canon is having a very difficult time with producing a quality camera. Nikon is on top of the game right now, canon is not. Now I understand the canon faithful will take acceptation to this simple fact. But like the past Nov elections, not everyone who voted knew exactly why they voted, they just voted because... well that is what they know

Signed
Contemplating/Pondering a new D700

DStanic
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 13:21
You can talk all you want about Nikons in the "General Photography Talk" section. I personally haven't seen any Nikon threads get locked/deleted in that section for the simple reason of it not being Canon.

PhotosGuy
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 18:20
Maybe it should stop being just a Canon forum? It never really was & there have never been restrictions on the equipment used. It's been a photography forum with a predominance of Canon users which just made it easier for people with similar equipment to learn.

MDJAK
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 19:15
I was a Canon user, then a Nikon user, then a Canon user, now a Nikon user.

I feel welcome here, though I do hesitate to post pics taken with my Nikon. It just seems that most people want to see what "Canon can do" when it comes to pics, not so much what the person can do regardless of the equipment used.

It would be nice to have a section for Nikon, mainly because the nikon forums just ain't that good. This forum is da best.

me

jon.t.
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 21:26
I'm a Nikon user, but I feel this forum offers a learning experience to everyone, not just canon users. Call it a canon forum, but I still learn to use my nikons from it.

Photon Phil
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 22:25
You know, Ken Rockwell will not sleep tonight because of that post above.

NicD
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 23:31
just an idea, why not have a sub category in the "lenses" and "bodies" section, so there are still the predominantly canon just there is the option for people who are using nikon stuff to talk about it.

Palladium
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 23:33
NO - Not Today Not Tomorrow

FlyingPhotog
29th of November 2008 (Sat), 23:49
I'm fine with people wanting to compare notes and learn from each other but the increasing number of new threads trumpeting Nikon over Canon simply as an attempt to pi$$ on people is getting old...

You've decided to switch brands...good for you. Go enjoy and I personally hope you find in Nikon what you feel is lacking in Canon.

But have the stones to not need to justify your decision by wanting to take a dump on others.

daduls
30th of November 2008 (Sun), 04:40
Some of you folks should check your internet explorer tab. Says something about Canon Digital Photography forums....


Hosted by Pekka Saarinen
Welcome. These pages are dedicated to digital photography. My own galleries are here along with a forum for Canon digital camera owners.


After the Nikon section I suggest an Olympus section, and then a Fuju, and then a........

Miyagi-san
1st of December 2008 (Mon), 12:15
caNOn

Mike
1st of December 2008 (Mon), 12:24
Maybe it should stop being just a Canon forum?
I'm all for making this a digital photography forum with equipment sections.

There are plenty of other forums that have nikon sections or are nikon orientated but this is a Canon forum and I like it that way. It has lasted quite a long time as a Canon forum, I don't see any reason to change.

Woolburr
2nd of December 2008 (Tue), 04:20
Oh, most certainly, just can't really have a section labeled nikon in a canon forum :)

Of course not...it would have to be the Noink section.

blonde
2nd of December 2008 (Tue), 12:18
no way!!!! this forum should not be tainted with the Nikon name. if those Nikon users want to talk about their gear, they can go some place else. this forum should only be a Canon forum!! :)

katodog
2nd of December 2008 (Tue), 12:24
Sorry, but I think the title of the website says it all. It's a Canon forum, and regardless of what anybody says, the only reason I found the website, and the only reason I'm on it, is because it's a Canon forum. If you want to talk about Nikon, build a Nikon forum. Why would you want to flood this site with Nikon talk. Everyone here prefers to be here because it is specific to Canon and Canon users.

Sorry Nikon, but take a Hike On. Don't let the doorknob hit you where the good Lord split you.

blonde
2nd of December 2008 (Tue), 12:26
What does it say in the top left corner of the page... yeah CANON forums... can't have a nikon section on a canon forum :D

Isn't this run by Canon though?

NO - Not Today Not Tomorrow

Some of you folks should check your internet explorer tab. Says something about Canon Digital Photography forums....


Hosted by Pekka Saarinen
Welcome. These pages are dedicated to digital photography. My own galleries are here along with a forum for Canon digital camera owners.


After the Nikon section I suggest an Olympus section, and then a Fuju, and then a........

caNOn

There are plenty of other forums that have nikon sections or are nikon orientated but this is a Canon forum and I like it that way. It has lasted quite a long time as a Canon forum, I don't see any reason to change.

despite all the above responses, it appears that the OWNER of this forum does not share the same close minded attitude as can be seen here:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=6298446&postcount=28

blonde
2nd of December 2008 (Tue), 12:30
Sorry, but I think the title of the website says it all. It's a Canon forum, and regardless of what anybody says, the only reason I found the website, and the only reason I'm on it, is because it's a Canon forum. If you want to talk about Nikon, build a Nikon forum. Why would you want to flood this site with Nikon talk. Everyone here prefers to be here because it is specific to Canon and Canon users.

Sorry Nikon, but take a Hike On. Don't let the doorknob hit you where the good Lord split you.

here is the attitude that i was looking for!!! rock on brother!!

no disrespect but if you are only here because it is a Canon forum and not because of the people, you are really here for the wrong reasons. i am here because the people are the best. i am here because people here want to help and because people are talented. i don't care what they used to take the picture as long as the picture is nice.

katodog
2nd of December 2008 (Tue), 12:46
I take no disrespect from what you said, and don't take any from my response, but...

...Uh, duh. That's not the point. Obviously your first time here, you didn't' care about the people, you cared about the info, and the info was about Canon. Then, once you get into it, and interact with the people, the people become another reason to be here, but not the main reason. Everyone finds this site for the info, and the interaction with the people comes second.

And I'm still here because it's a Canon forum. Just because the people are nice or not makes no difference to me. I come for the info, to learn, and maybe to teach. I don't come here to make friends. That's what they made Match.com and eHarmony for. Just like the astro forums I belong to. I originally went to them for information, and once I got to know the people, that became a secondary reason, to interact with people who shared the same interests that I do. Same thing here. It's a source of information, and a place to share what I like with other people who are here to do the same. The bonus is when I learn something, or get the chance to help someone else, but it's still just another source for information.


My preference would be that, if I'm here for information about Canon cameras, or Canon lenses, or third party stuff for Canon equipment, or to learn about photography as it is applied through the use of Canon equipment, then that's what I can find. I don't want to wade through threads and posts about Nikon gear, save that for a Nikon forum. And in the same respect, I wouldn't go to a Nikon forum to learn about Canon equipment. I've seen too many forums lose there respectability and there structure by allowing too much extra business to go on. Keep it simple.


So, as I said before, Nikon, take a Hike On.



Edit: My apologies to Nikon people, I mean no offense. But you do have to realize that the main purpose of this forum is to talk Canon, or it wouldn't say Canon at the top.

blonde
2nd of December 2008 (Tue), 13:00
I take no disrespect from what you said, and don't take any from my response, but...

...Uh, duh. That's not the point. Obviously your first time here, you didn't' care about the people, you cared about the info, and the info was about Canon. Then, once you get into it, and interact with the people, the people become another reason to be here, but not the main reason. Everyone finds this site for the info, and the interaction with the people comes second.

And I'm still here because it's a Canon forum. Just because the people are nice or not makes no difference to me. I come for the info, to learn, and maybe to teach. I don't come here to make friends. That's what they made Match.com and eHarmony for. Just like the astro forums I belong to. I originally went to them for information, and once I got to know the people, that became a secondary reason, to interact with people who shared the same interests that I do. Same thing here. It's a source of information, and a place to share what I like with other people who are here to do the same. The bonus is when I learn something, or get the chance to help someone else, but it's still just another source for information.


My preference would be that, if I'm here for information about Canon cameras, or Canon lenses, or third party stuff for Canon equipment, or to learn about photography as it is applied through the use of Canon equipment, then that's what I can find. I don't want to wade through threads and posts about Nikon gear, save that for a Nikon forum. And in the same respect, I wouldn't go to a Nikon forum to learn about Canon equipment. I've seen too many forums lose there respectability and there structure by allowing too much extra business to go on. Keep it simple.


So, as I said before, Nikon, take a Hike On.



Edit: My apologies to Nikon people, I mean no offense. But you do have to realize that the main purpose of this forum is to talk Canon, or it wouldn't say Canon at the top.

i don't think you understand how many Nikon owners are here and how many times you see their posts and images and don't even realize it. hell, one of the most helpful member that we have on POTN if a Nikon user and he is always helping people with lighting gear. i don't know about you but i wouldn't want to lose this knowledge just because he doesn't use a Canon. also, we are talking about a separate section here for Nikon which means that if you don't want to read about Nikon or talk to people that use Nikon, you can simply take a hike and move on..

katodog
2nd of December 2008 (Tue), 13:11
I know full well that I can avoid a separate section, and I know full well that there are Nikon users here. But, even you have to admit that the main reason you are here is because of the specificity to Canon equipment. I know that the forum is based on photography as a whole, and not totally about Canon, but most users come here for the Canon discussions.

I'm not one to jump into the Canon-v-Nikon baloney, my posts were meant in seriousness, but with a little jesting too. So don't fly off the handle. It's all in good fun. I really don't give a **** what equipment people use, I prefer to learn what I can where I can. And I see tons of threads about Nikon. Don't care, just walk passed them. I'm just concerned with the fact that the forum can easily take a turn for the worse by allowing more and more "x,y,z," specific headings to appear. I've seen it dozens of times on other forums, and it ends up alienating the people who have the true desire to be in the forums.


And to that, I will shut up. I wasn't planning to make anybody mad, but hey, opinions are like (you know what), everyone has one. I'll go away now, and let you guys have your one-sided conversation.

blonde
2nd of December 2008 (Tue), 13:19
I know full well that I can avoid a separate section, and I know full well that there are Nikon users here. But, even you have to admit that the main reason you are here is because of the specificity to Canon equipment. I know that the forum is based on photography as a whole, and not totally about Canon, but most users come here for the Canon discussions.

I'm not one to jump into the Canon-v-Nikon baloney, my posts were meant in seriousness, but with a little jesting too. So don't fly off the handle. It's all in good fun. I really don't give a **** what equipment people use, I prefer to learn what I can where I can. And I see tons of threads about Nikon. Don't care, just walk passed them. I'm just concerned with the fact that the forum can easily take a turn for the worse by allowing more and more "x,y,z," specific headings to appear. I've seen it dozens of times on other forums, and it ends up alienating the people who have the true desire to be in the forums.


And to that, I will shut up. I wasn't planning to make anybody mad, but hey, opinions are like (you know what), everyone has one. I'll go away now, and let you guys have your one-sided conversation.

no worries buddy, just a discussion and sorry if it seemed like i am flying off the handle. like you said, we all have an opinion :)

12mnkys
2nd of December 2008 (Tue), 13:20
I wouldn't mind it...Some people are so closed minded when it comes to these things. Fanboys of either brand don't do anybody any good... There are fantastic Canon's out there...and fantastic Nikon's...to say that all Nikons suck is just ignorant...

I think poeple need to give credit where credit is due! :D

Pete
2nd of December 2008 (Tue), 13:23
Reminder: The forum here is a photography forum. Only the Equipment Talk section is specific to Canon, the rest of the forum is free for anyone using any equipment to share their work, to ask questions, to give advice and to be fully-rounded members of our community.

We are not elitist here, we are not exclusive to Canon, neither are we exclusionists of any other brand.

We are united in photography, and our community spirit.

katodog
2nd of December 2008 (Tue), 13:26
Leave it to a mod to ruin all the fun. http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a399/katodog/Smileys/36_2_29.gifhttp://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a399/katodog/Smileys/36_1_5.gif

Mr. Clean
2nd of December 2008 (Tue), 18:32
Regardless of what people think, it's pretty Canon-centric here and I would leave it that way unless you have a complete mirror site with all the sub forums and what not.
Yes the people are good, yes we're all united etc. etc. But that's not really the point you know. People come/came here to get information on a Canon camera and to add Nikon to the fold without massive restruction would only muddy the waters.

retired
3rd of December 2008 (Wed), 11:42
Hi Guys
I am a Nikon user to date, but love to come to this forum to learn about Canon. At our Nikon site (WWW.Nikonians.org) we have a forum for other camera's which include
Canon. Even if you are a canon user, you should check out the Nikon site as I think you would be impressed on how it's laid out. It's free to join.

John

PacAce
3rd of December 2008 (Wed), 12:18
Hi Guys
I am a Nikon user to date, but love to come to this forum to learn about Canon. At our Nikon site (WWW.Nikonians.org) we have a forum for other camera's which include
Canon. Even if you are a canon user, you should check out the Nikon site as I think you would be impressed on how it's laid out. It's free to join.

John
Not exactly free if you're required to own or plan to own a Nikon camera before you can register there. :|
I know of one person who was actually asked to leave that forum because he had registered when he didn't own or didn't plan to own a Nikon camera.

Below is a snippet from their forum rules page.


4.2. Anyone who owns or plans to buy Nikon photography equipment may register at Nikonians, i.e. if you do not own and do not plan to buy Nikon equipment, you must not register.

ahhhlawn
3rd of December 2008 (Wed), 14:08
ehhh, i own both a canon and nikon. Photography is photography no matter what camera you shoot it with.

powerslave
3rd of December 2008 (Wed), 14:13
POTN has no affiliation with canon.

Wow! Have there been attempts to get Canon sponsor this site?

Well, but who likes having a boss? Maybe that's not a good idea after all.

retired
4th of December 2008 (Thu), 07:17
I don't know where you got your information that you had to have a Nikon camera to join Nikonian as I did and they never asked what camera I had. It's a great place to go to learn about Nikon camera's and just basically to venture into the other side. We can always learn from each forum.

John

::John::
4th of December 2008 (Thu), 07:24
I don't know where you got your information that you had to have a Nikon camera to join Nikonian as I did and they never asked what camera I had. It's a great place to go to learn about Nikon camera's and just basically to venture into the other side. We can always learn from each forum.

John

Click the link --> link (http://www.nikonians.org/html/about/terms_of_use.html)

and scroll to rule 4.2

As PacAce said

Pete
4th of December 2008 (Thu), 07:37
Also

3.2. In the forums, do not post any images not made by a Nikon camera or a Nikon-based hybrid camera. If you want to share images taken with other cameras/formats, these pictures can be be posted in the Other Camera Systems forum only.

POTN has no such restriction.

HSK
4th of December 2008 (Thu), 07:41
It probably makes sense to have a section for just specific discussion on other camera manufacturers in general.

But it would only be worth it if there was actual discussion. Not flaming etc.

Pete
4th of December 2008 (Thu), 07:45
"General Photography Talk" can be used for that, also the "Photography News" if the discussion is about a recent industry news story about Canon or any other brand.

Moderators can deal with any flaming... :D

HSK
4th of December 2008 (Thu), 07:53
Duh *smacks head. yes i should of thought of that!

charlesu
4th of December 2008 (Thu), 08:54
I kind of pity Nikon. They had a hit with the D3 then cannabalized the hell out of it with the D700. Then had to drop the price on the D700 when Canon announced the 5DMKII. That has to just suck.

blonde
4th of December 2008 (Thu), 10:12
I kind of pity Nikon. They had a hit with the D3 then cannabalized the hell out of it with the D700. Then had to drop the price on the D700 when Canon announced the 5DMKII. That has to just suck.

so you feel bad for them because they had a super comeback and managed to rock the world with 3 great cameras? the D700 is selling VERY well and the D3 did very good in sales as well. and btw, they did not canabalized the D3 sales with the D700, again, those who need the extras of the D3 still go for the D3 just like those who needs a 1DsmkIII will still go for that and not the 5DmkII.

Mike
4th of December 2008 (Thu), 10:59
...if you are only here because it is a Canon forum and not because of the people, you are really here for the wrong reasons.

Obviously your first time here, you didn't' care about the people, you cared about the info, and the info was about Canon.

I agree - the only reason that I came to this place (and not photocamel/talkphotography/dpr etc) and stayed is because of the Canon moniker. It is because it says "Canon Digital Photography" at the top that I am here. Sure, after a while you get to know people but it does take some time. I think I was here for about a year before I became more active in a chat thread and now I know and have met a few local people and that's cool.

But I certainly don't believe that being here because it is a canon forum is the wrong reason for being here. Some people just don't want to chat.

charlesu
4th of December 2008 (Thu), 14:10
so you feel bad for them because they had a super comeback and managed to rock the world with 3 great cameras? the D700 is selling VERY well and the D3 did very good in sales as well. and btw, they did not canabalized the D3 sales with the D700, again, those who need the extras of the D3 still go for the D3 just like those who needs a 1DsmkIII will still go for that and not the 5DmkII.

I am not sure they rocked the world. What they did do was finally challenge the competition. Even if it was only short-lived. I think that felt to Nikon fans like a rock but to most of us it was kinda like "oh cool there is life left in Nikon".

blonde
4th of December 2008 (Thu), 14:19
I am not sure they rocked the world. What they did do was finally challenge the competition. Even if it was only short-lived. I think that felt to Nikon fans like a rock but to most of us it was kinda like "oh cool there is life left in Nikon".

i don't want to really get into this but let's just say that i disagree with you on the "challenged the competition" and the "short-lived" part. i am not a Nikon fan but in my opinion, what they did was incredible.

charlesu
4th of December 2008 (Thu), 19:33
i don't want to really get into this but let's just say that i disagree with you on the "challenged the competition" and the "short-lived" part. i am not a Nikon fan but in my opinion, what they did was incredible.


Jonas Salk rocked the world. Marconi rocked the world. Wilbur and Orville rocked the world. Einstein rocked the world.

It sounds like our standards of "rocked the world" are quite a bit different.

Enjoy your new Nikon gear.

goldboughtrue
4th of December 2008 (Thu), 19:50
Wow! Have there been attempts to get Canon sponsor this site?

Well, but who likes having a boss? Maybe that's not a good idea after all.

I remember reading a post where the moderators thought about it and said they didn't want to be beholden to canon if it was sponsored by canon.

T.D.
4th of December 2008 (Thu), 22:06
Wow, if we can't avoid a Canon vs Nikon battle in the thread to discuss whether we need to add a Nikon section, how are we ever going to handle having an actual section?! :rolleyes:

tommykjensen
5th of December 2008 (Fri), 00:29
Wow, if we can't avoid a Canon vs Nikon battle in the thread to discuss whether we need to add a Nikon section, how are we ever going to handle having an actual section?! :rolleyes:

I think that big shiny red button would would be glowing from the use of it :lol:

powerslave
5th of December 2008 (Fri), 10:34
How about an instant ban no tolerance policy on any post that even slightly hints at "Nikon is better or Canon is better" ? :lol: Pretty sure that will work. :D

blonde
5th of December 2008 (Fri), 13:09
How about an instant ban no tolerance policy on any post that even slightly hints at "Nikon is better or Canon is better" ? :lol: Pretty sure that will work. :D

i am pretty sure that this will result in a reduction of members by about 90% within the first week :)

12mnkys
5th of December 2008 (Fri), 14:11
I personally think it is time for people to expand there horizons and quit the back and forth bantering between brands!!

gymell
5th of December 2008 (Fri), 14:36
Maybe this forum is so successful because it does tend to focus on one manufacturer. For those with Canon equipment, it's a great way to learn because we can all speak the same language with something in common. If the forum were to be diluted with discussions of all kinds of other brands (and if you have Nikon, then you open the door to everything else, too, right?), then this forum would lose much of the value it has to most of the people here. Calling this forum close minded because it doesn't have sections for other brands is itself a close minded viewpoint. Be open minded enough to understand why this forum works so well.

There are plenty of other forums out there with areas for all types of different equipment, if that's what people want. There are Nikon-specific forums and many other photography forums available. If you want to talk Nikon, and feel the existing offerings out there aren't as good, then what's stopping you from establishing the next great Nikon forum?

Andrushka
5th of December 2008 (Fri), 14:39
man this is a slippery slope... :-)

first Nikon, then politics, then religion, then.....................

alduin
5th of December 2008 (Fri), 16:20
man this is a slippery slope... :-)

first Nikon, then politics, then religion, then.....................

You mentioned religion twice... =P

drisley
6th of December 2008 (Sat), 22:27
This is a Canon forum. No Nikon sub-forums... PERIOD. I joined this forum 6 years ago because it is a Canon specific forum (look at the name). The day Nikon has it's own sub-forum is the day I leave. If you want a Nikon forum, go look for one... or find one of the many general photo forums that have this. Next question.

MDJAK
6th of December 2008 (Sat), 22:31
Drisley has spoken. And if you don't like it, he'll kick your arse.

Lock the thread now. He did say "PERIOD" after all. :lol:
me

blonde
6th of December 2008 (Sat), 23:07
This is a Canon forum. No Nikon sub-forums... PERIOD. I joined this forum 6 years ago because it is a Canon specific forum (look at the name). The day Nikon has it's own sub-forum is the day I leave. If you want a Nikon forum, go look for one... or find one of the many general photo forums that have this. Next question.

is that a promise? ;)

blonde
6th of December 2008 (Sat), 23:08
Drisley has spoken. And if you don't like it, he'll kick your arse.

Lock the thread now. He did say "PERIOD" after all. :lol:
me

heheh :lol:

drisley
6th of December 2008 (Sat), 23:53
Yup, that is a promise!
Although, with members like blonde and mdjak, more and more are leaving all the time.

T.D.
6th of December 2008 (Sat), 23:54
Ok folks, I think this thread has gone about as far as it can.