Wireless flash AND camera remote?

[SarahJD]

I know the pocket wizards can trigger your lights or the camera's shutter -- can skyports or cybersyncs do the same thing?

It's the only way I'm going to get in a picture WITH my kids! :lol:

Thanks!

Sarah

[goforphoto]

Here is a cheap way to do it.
http://www.gadgetinfinity.com/product.php?productid=16745

I do not have one of these but if it works like the wireless triggers it should be pretty reliable for what you want to do.

[40Dude6aedyk]

I know the pocket wizards can trigger your lights or the camera's shutter -- can skyports or cybersyncs do the same thing?

It's the only way I'm going to get in a picture WITH my kids! :lol:

Thanks!

Sarah

That's seems like an expensive way to get in the picture. What's wrong with the 10 sec delay for the shutter? I find that kids like to watch the flashing shutter light.

Doesn't Canon sell a wireless remote (RC-1) for about $25?

[SarahJD]

Thanks for the replies.

The RC-1 doesn't work with the 40D. I have one in the drawer from my Digital Rebel.

I guess I should have been more clear -- I am buying them to use for off-camera lighting, I just want the triggers to be able to trip the shutter as an extra -- that makes it LESS expensive. :)

[PacAce]

That's seems like an expensive way to get in the picture. What's wrong with the 10 sec delay for the shutter? I find that kids like to watch the flashing shutter light.

Doesn't Canon sell a wireless remote (RC-1) for about $25?
Have you read your 40D manual? The RC-1 doesn't work with the 40D, which is the camera the OP has! :confused:







:mrgreen: I just couldn't help giving you a taste of your own medicine. ;) :lol: :)

[PacAce]

I know the pocket wizards can trigger your lights or the camera's shutter -- can skyports or cybersyncs do the same thing?

It's the only way I'm going to get in a picture WITH my kids! :lol:

Thanks!

Sarah

Sarah, you should be able to trigger your camera with either the Skyport or the CyberSync unit as long as you have the proper N3 release cable to connect the remote to the camera. FlashZebra.com should have the required cable. If you also want to fire a remote flash with the remote camera then you'll need another set of transmitter and receiver units. If the flash is connected directly to the camera, then you won't need to worry about a 2nd set of remotes.

[SarahJD]

Thanks so much Leo -- that is exactly what I was looking for! :)

[40Dude6aedyk]

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:mrgreen: I just couldn't help giving you a taste of your own medicine. ;) :lol: :)

Good one! :) (And I don't mind being told to RTFM at all.)

There are wireless remotes for the 40D. The Canon one is ridiculously expensive. I see there are non-Canon ones for about $30 to $80.

But back to the task at hand. It reads like you will have a camera with an on-camera flash, a remote flash and a remote in your hand. So you have to have a transmitter in your hand, a receiver on your camera and a receiver on the remote flash? It's starting to get expensive.

[PacAce]

Good one! :) (And I don't mind being told to RTFM at all.)

There are wireless remotes for the 40D. The Canon one is ridiculously expensive. I see there are non-Canon ones for about $30 to $80.

But back to the task at hand. It reads like you will have a camera with an on-camera flash, a remote flash and a remote in your hand. So you have to have a transmitter in your hand, a receiver on your camera and a receiver on the remote flash? It's starting to get expensive.
Yes, that's basically correct (you actually need either a transceiver (PW units) on the remote camera or a transmitter and a receiver (Skyport, CyberSync, etc.) on the camera to fire a remote flash).

And, yes, it can start to get expensive using RF remote units to fire a remote camera unless you already have a set to begin with for use with remote flashes.

[Titus213]

I believe the Cybersyncs can do it with one transmitter and two receivers. The receivers can be put in repeater mode and actually trip another receiver.

I do admit that a $30 or $40 dollar problem probably shouldn't require $200 worth of radio triggers. Unless you are trying to justify the radio triggers.:lol:

[PacAce]

I believe the Cybersyncs can do it with one transmitter and two receivers. The receivers can be put in repeater mode and actually trip another receiver.

I do admit that a $30 or $40 dollar problem probably shouldn't require $200 worth of radio triggers. Unless you are trying to justify the radio triggers.:lol:

Dave, repeater mode usage of the Cybersync receiver is not the same as the transceiver mode used in the PW Plus II to. On the Cybersync receiver, when it receives a signal from the transmitter, it quickly turns around and, on the same channel, retransmits the same signal to a 2nd Cybersync receiver. This will indeed fire the camera connected to the first Cybersync receiver but it will also fire the flash connected to the 2nd Cybersync receiver and, most likely, will be out of sync with the remote camera.

The way the Plus II and MultiMax units work is, when the transceiver receives a signal from the transmitter, it triggers the camera it's attached to. It then immediate switches to transmitter mode and waits for a sync signal from the camera. When that sync signal is received, the unit transmits a signal on a different channel to the receiver the flash is connected to fire it. This flash then fires in sync with the camera.

In order to simulate what the PW units do, you would need a Cybersync transmitter and a Cybersync receiver connected to the remote camera.

The use of the Cybersync units with a remote camera and a remote flash is explained in the section "Using a local camera, a remote camera and two sets of lights" towards the end of the Cybersync manual.

[SarahJD]

Thanks for all of the info guys!

I guess I'm clear as mud today. I am buying the radio triggers for off camera lighting. Period. I thought it would be fun if I could also use the triggers as a remote shutter release. I am not trying to trigger on-camera and off-camera lighting at the same time as the shutter. Therefore, the N3 release cable that Leo recommended is a cheap way to use the triggers I already need to buy for something fun to do with my kids.

I hope that clears things up and you don't think I'm trying to spend hundreds of dollars just to get a picture with the kids! LOL If not, I guess I give up on trying to explain -- I'm obviously not doing a good job of it today. :)

Again, thanks for your help.

Sarah

[PacAce]

Thanks for all of the info guys!

I guess I'm clear as mud today. I am buying the radio triggers for off camera lighting. Period. I thought it would be fun if I could also use the triggers as a remote shutter release. I am not trying to trigger on-camera and off-camera lighting at the same time as the shutter. Therefore, the N3 release cable that Leo recommended is a cheap way to use the triggers I already need to buy for something fun to do with my kids.

I hope that clears things up and you don't think I'm trying to spend hundreds of dollars just to get a picture with the kids! LOL If not, I guess I give up on trying to explain -- I'm obviously not doing a good job of it today. :)

Again, thanks for your help.

Sarah
And you shouldn't have to explain how you spend your own money. You just go on doing whatever you want to do with your money how you see fit. :)

[BobbyT]

I use a phottix wired/wireless on my 40D. It works great.
http://teamspeed.ecrater.com/product.php?pid=2059609

You can find them all over ebay.

[Titus213]

Dave, repeater mode usage of the Cybersync receiver is not the same as the transceiver mode used in the PW Plus II to. On the Cybersync receiver, when it receives a signal from the transmitter, it quickly turns around and, on the same channel, retransmits the same signal to a 2nd Cybersync receiver. This will indeed fire the camera connected to the first Cybersync receiver but it will also fire the flash connected to the 2nd Cybersync receiver and, most likely, will be out of sync with the remote camera.

The way the Plus II and MultiMax units work is, when the transceiver receives a signal from the transmitter, it triggers the camera it's attached to. It then immediate switches to transmitter mode and waits for a sync signal from the camera. When that sync signal is received, the unit transmits a signal on a different channel to the receiver the flash is connected to fire it. This flash then fires in sync with the camera.

In order to simulate what the PW units do, you would need a Cybersync transmitter and a Cybersync receiver connected to the remote camera.

The use of the Cybersync units with a remote camera and a remote flash is explained in the section "Using a local camera, a remote camera and two sets of lights" towards the end of the Cybersync manual.

Yes, that's what I meant. The 'receiver' in repeater mode would trigger the receiver hooked to the shutter. The camera would fire a transmitter (on another channel) to fire any other remotes. Seems it should work. I know the receiver in repeater mode will trigger a receiver when the test button is pressed. Of course, that implies that you will actually have at least 3 receivers available to handle one remote flash.... And receivers are more money than transmitters.

[PacAce]

I believe the Cybersyncs can do it with one transmitter and two receivers. The receivers can be put in repeater mode and actually trip another receiver.

I do admit that a $30 or $40 dollar problem probably shouldn't require $200 worth of radio triggers. Unless you are trying to justify the radio triggers.:lol:

Yes, that's what I meant. The 'receiver' in repeater mode would trigger the receiver hooked to the shutter. The camera would fire a transmitter (on another channel) to fire any other remotes. Seems it should work. I know the receiver in repeater mode will trigger a receiver when the test button is pressed. Of course, that implies that you will actually have at least 3 receivers available to handle one remote flash.... And receivers are more money than transmitters.

Yes, you would need either two transmitters and two receivers or one transmitter and three receivers. In either case, just one transmitter and two receivers is not going to let you shoot a remote camera and a remote flash.

[Titus213]

Ooops.....I'll blame my meds again.:lol:

[Lotto]

LOL, good one, Dave.

[PacAce]

Ooops.....I'll blame my meds again.:lol:

I'll have to add that to my bag of excuses, too. :lol: :mrgreen: ;)