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Adam Hicks
7th of March 2005 (Mon), 20:15
Anyone know what this is? I want to give it a shot...

http://www.sportsshooter.com/news_pix/1356_2.jpeg

http://www.sportsshooter.com/news_pix/1356_3.jpeg

mbze430
7th of March 2005 (Mon), 20:52
Could be the canon off-shoe bracket.

FlipsidE
7th of March 2005 (Mon), 21:00
Yeah, it looks like that Canon bracket...can't remember really anything about it though.

FlipsidE

Ballen Photo
7th of March 2005 (Mon), 21:09
What Bracket? I cant see it, as the lens, camera, and flash are covering it. :shock:
-Bruce

Harry Settle
7th of March 2005 (Mon), 21:19
It might be one of these, or something similar

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=82284&is=REG

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=131401&is=REG

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=116630&is=REG

Actually there are a whole bunch of them at B&H that may be what you are looking for.

thomascanty
8th of March 2005 (Tue), 01:58
I'm with Bruce. What bracket? I can't even see it from the angles these pictures were taken from.

gmen
8th of March 2005 (Tue), 02:08
The item in question is the Canon SB-E1 bracket. There's a pic at the bottom of this link...

http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/eos20d/580EX/

Quizzmo
8th of March 2005 (Tue), 02:35
Everyone is wrong...

That is Canon's new wireless transmitter... just read the article that those first pics are attached to...

HKFEVER
8th of March 2005 (Tue), 02:40
How about the lens hood? Is it belong to that lens?

blackviolet
8th of March 2005 (Tue), 06:28
Everyone is wrong...

That is Canon's new wireless transmitter... just read the article that those first pics are attached to...

mate - he's talking about the bracket. i'm with gmen and the rest... a bit pointless...

but yes, the SS article is about the new wireless transmitter. it seems kinda weird that you're limited to the card's capacity?!? but i digress....

thomascanty
8th of March 2005 (Tue), 07:18
How about the lens hoop? Is it belong to that lens?

Good question. Now that you mention it, that hood does look very wrong for that lens...

Belmondo
8th of March 2005 (Tue), 07:22
I think the lens is the 28-300, in which case the lens hood (EW83G) looks just about right.

HKFEVER
8th of March 2005 (Tue), 07:26
The reason that I ask about the hood is because all my L's hood doesn't look like that at all.

Belmondo
8th of March 2005 (Tue), 07:39
The reason that I ask about the hood is because all my L's hood doesn't look like that at all.

If you have the 28-300L, it should.

HKFEVER
8th of March 2005 (Tue), 07:43
If you have the 28-300L, it should.
I see because that hood is for 28mm.

Huckaback Photo
8th of March 2005 (Tue), 08:50
My thoughts on the bracket used in the pictures above.
No way is it canons latest offering ( SBE 1 ) as with the 580 shown in use, you can only use on the opposite side of camera, as there is a small securing screw to one side of flash only (plus the normal mount screw at bottom)
Looking at the height of the unit I think a flat bracket is in use as it is the same possition as my own set up.
I just found this at the "Focus on Imaging Exhibition".

Supplied by a company called Speed Graphic
And manufactured by Novoflex
called Novoflex Flash Grip.
cost £69.00 it is complete with metal / hard foam grip handle which you can separate, (removed )
check out my pics, you do need a off camera lead. or i guess a transmitter.
Hope this is useful as it has taken me 2 years to find something that works for me and yet is so basic.

Martin (Huckaback Photo)

My Gallery
http://www.pbase.com/huckaback_photo

Adam Hicks
8th of March 2005 (Tue), 08:58
Matin,

Thanks for posting those photos... that looks even better than the one I pictured. I'm curious though, for portrait shots, is the flash a little too high to illuminate the frame accurately? I can imagine turning the camera sideways and the flash illuminating the left side and having some dark area to the right. Make sense?

Also, do they make a higher flash arm to elevate the flash above the camera?

Thanks!
Adam

etaf
8th of March 2005 (Tue), 09:09
i have a similar mount. mine is just a straight piece of plastic {has a rubber mat fixed to it for the bottom of camera }with a screw to gointo the tripod mount on a slot - and a screw at the end to take the flash mount cord. - there is also a threaded socket in the screw head for the camera and a threaded screw in the mount to allow you to mount it on a tripod -
I think {sorry no markings on them} mine where metz or something and cost about £10.
I have used these with a EOS5 and EOS600 with 550EX and 430EZ flash guns and I think they are great for handling and lighting.
Also used on my Pro1 although I cant get the 550EX to work E-TTL on that camera {but thats a different post}

I also use stroboframe which gets the flash High and allows the camera to be set to a portrait or landscape mode without the flash changing - great at weddings on a tripod.
http://bermangraphics.com/coolpix/stroboframe.htm

Huckaback Photo
8th of March 2005 (Tue), 09:24
Adam Trust me this works like magic or no way would it be sitting on my 1d2, its normally used with the upright section (handle/grip) in place took it off to show what i thought the original photographer may have been using in the shots you first put up
I just found this site by doing a search there are lots of options check it out.

http://www.hpmarketingcorp.com/novoflex.html

jbradc
8th of March 2005 (Tue), 09:33
Here is the link to it at B & H. $ 134.95
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=233107&is=REG

Huckaback Photo
8th of March 2005 (Tue), 09:34
Sorry had intended to say I think the new canon SBE 1 is hopeless it is the wrong side of camera when used vertical so flash is below the lens or you need to do something real clever with your hand.
its my belief anyone with a decent piece of alloy and a small ball head could easilly make this for themselves.

Etaf
Theres a company called Hama who produce a bracket like you mention, in a plastic and in metal.
Cheers
Martin (Huckaback Photo)

Huckaback Photo
8th of March 2005 (Tue), 09:42
Jbradc
There are times when I'm real impressed with some of you Guys, this very occasion

like i know where to get it in UK .
But cheers Mate, sure someone will appreciate your speed .
Thanks
Martin (Huckaback Photo)

My Gallery http://www.pbase.com/huckaback_photo

jbradc
8th of March 2005 (Tue), 10:00
Jbradc
There are times when I'm real impressed with some of you Guys, this very occasion

like i know where to get it in UK .
But cheers Mate, sure someone will appreciate your speed .

I posted the B & H link for the benefit of Adam Hicks, he started this thread so I thought he may want to know where the bracket was available.

kawter2
8th of March 2005 (Tue), 10:08
Adam Trust me this works like magic or no way would it be sitting on my 1d2, its normally used with the upright section (handle/grip) in place took it off to show what i thought the original photographer may have been using in the shots you first put up
I just found this site by doing a search there are lots of options check it out.

http://www.hpmarketingcorp.com/novoflex.html




I am ignorant in regards to flash brackets and i am looking to get one.

!!!!I AM NOT SAYING YOU ARE WRONG, I JUST DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THIS!!!!

Question, I really like the looks of this one, but the two things I am concerned with are...

#1 Shouldnt the flash sit in the center of the lens on its vertical axis? (it seems like it is on a 45 for both, and with the grip it seems that this would be exagerated)

#2 I guess this doesnt change position relative to you shootin port or lands?


I am really concidering this, because I am in the market for a frame, but I have put it off because I HATE THOSE HUGE ERECTOR SET LOOKING BRACKETS. I would love it if this one would suffice

blackviolet
8th of March 2005 (Tue), 11:04
i'm just posting this reply as i love your 'office space' avatar!!!

um...ok. back on topic...
i have a custombracket - which is i guess one of the 'erector set' looking ones. i used to have a Hama flat bracket (back in the film days), which simply put the flash off to the side. i think it was around $20, and it probably still is. but it was hopeless in that the flash wasnt centred over the lens. it always gave this '3d drop shadow' look, regardless whether it was in portrait or landscape. it was better than flash in the camera's shoe, but only just...

scottbergerphoto
8th of March 2005 (Tue), 11:13
When using a flash bracket, the idea is to keep the flash centered over the lens regardless of orientation (portrait/landscape), to avoid ugly shadows. This throws the shadow behind the subject and not off to the side.
Scott

Huckaback Photo
8th of March 2005 (Tue), 11:40
Hi Kawter
We could possibly debate where a flash should or should not be possitioned , for the rest of the year, so i'm not going there.
I deliberately took off the hand grip part from my bracket, to show how i thought the (possibly )profesional photographer had his 580 mounted on camera .
In my opinion one of the worlds best pro flash units are the Metz 60 series and 45 series the normal possition for these is to the left or right and above the lens axis .
I own 6 different flash units and the metz 45 is still one of the best but does not have the ettl functionallity of course ,
I also use canon units because the are also so brilliant.we so many differing functions etc.
importantly use the flash to suit what you are taking, not all subjects work with flash on camera ,or on bracket, or bounced, or in a brolly etc. etc.


Martin

gmen
8th of March 2005 (Tue), 11:44
Here's a review of the SB-E1 which may be of interest...

http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00BJoF

Hmmmm...