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Righty
9th of March 2005 (Wed), 05:58
Hey guys, after grabbing a 20D from work for a day, adding on my old Canon 28-80 L lens to it. I took a few shots, now, most were quite good, however, there were a couple of things I noticed. What dissapointed me the most was this photo:
http://members.fordmods.com/users/righty/jagsymbol.jpg
I was shooting on 200 ISO with auto apature/shutter - that might be where the problem was? I was at the motor show, so there wasn't much time to sit there and play with settings! Anywho, notice the top of the jaguar is blown out? and is that purple fringing? Is this somethign that you simply can't avoid in those situations - bright lights beaming down on chrome - should the 20D with an L series lense be able to capture that correctly, should I have changed the settings and not been lazy? :P
Just curious what you guys think.I'm being too picky arn't I? :P


On a side note, I did love this photo after a bit of work in photoshop
http://members.fordmods.com/users/righty/05gt22.jpg

Persian-Rice
9th of March 2005 (Wed), 06:07
I don't know about that but I took the exact same shot at the carshow............chrome is very difficult to shoot properly, especially in an uncontrolled environment.

Deckyon
9th of March 2005 (Wed), 06:17
I have shot cars with my cameras and not noticed any purple fringing on those shots, and actually, what you have there is very acceptible. If there is any fringing, it can be easily overlooked as reflection.

Try not to use Auto or P modes. It may take a second or two more to set it properly, but it is worth it.

PacAce
9th of March 2005 (Wed), 06:28
If it is purple fringing (I can't tell from the image due to size) then it's not the camera. It's the lens.

Vega$50
9th of March 2005 (Wed), 07:03
I had to search for what you were talking about....The picture looks fine the way it is...I think it may be due to the lighting situation in there....

CyberDyneSystems
9th of March 2005 (Wed), 07:17
Purple fringing,. as Pacace says ,. is a lens issue,. Chromatic Aberration.

It happens primarily when a lens is wide open.
As for blown highlights,. this is simply a matter of getting good at understanding exposure, and reviwing your histogram. No camera can save you from blown highlights 100% of the time,.. and there are times when the situation can not give a "good" exposure without some blow out.

phili1
9th of March 2005 (Wed), 07:46
Yes your are asking to much from the Camera.

First your shooting a material thats has a higher reflectence then a mirror. So the top part is not really blow out but what happens to chrome under intense lighting. All you have to do is look at a motorcycle going down the block. Auto shows have what we call hot lights to put appeal for eye viewing, to create sparkel in chrome like that.

You have to know your meter system first. It reads a middle grey tone and you have to interpet it. In Auto/Program/ TV/EV modes you can make exposure adjustments. To close the lens down(less exposure/less light) you select a minus EV to balance between a very bright and dark subject. You want to add more light plus EV ( wider opening). Would it have stoped what happened yes but you wouldn'e be able to see the car as well but you can bring that back in Photoshop, you can bring blown out back.Soulution, an in between setting to compensate and adjust in Photoshop.

AS far as purple fringing. Cyber Dan knows more about that then myself, but if I were abetting man I think it was from there display material, sometims they hang drapping material for effect. I have never had purple fringing from my 20D.

Hope thbat helps.

I down loaded your picture and will see if I can make it better and will let you know.

cmM
9th of March 2005 (Wed), 07:51
you can't entirely rely on your camera to take outstanding images by itself in Auto mode. If you get a 1DsMKII, and shoot the same way you'll probably still get the same results.
Reflections like that are pretty hard to avoid.

PacAce
9th of March 2005 (Wed), 09:33
you can't entirely rely on your camera to take outstanding images by itself in Auto mode. [b]If you get a 1DsMKII, and shoot the same way you'll probably still get the same results.[/b[]
Reflections like that are pretty hard to avoid.
Lucky for you, if you do get the 1DsmkII, you won't be able to shoot that way since it doesn't have an AUTO mode. AAMOF, it doesn't have any of the Basic Zone modes. :confused: (The nerve of Canon. You'd think for how much you pay for a 1DsmkII, they could at least include those feature. :evil: )

:mrgreen: :lol: :mrgreen:

cmM
9th of March 2005 (Wed), 09:41
Lucky for you, if you do get the 1DsmkII, you won't be able to shoot that way since it doesn't have an AUTO mode. AAMOF, it doesn't have any of the Basic Zone modes. :confused: (The nerve of Canon. You'd think for how much you pay for a 1DsmkII, they could at least include those feature. :evil: )

:mrgreen: :lol: :mrgreen:
yea.... and no pop-up flash either! :lol:

Deckyon
9th of March 2005 (Wed), 10:32
Lucky for you, if you do get the 1DsmkII, you won't be able to shoot that way since it doesn't have an AUTO mode. AAMOF, it doesn't have any of the Basic Zone modes. :confused: (The nerve of Canon. You'd think for how much you pay for a 1DsmkII, they could at least include those feature. :evil: )

If, you are being serious... Well, they figure that at the 1 series level you do not need anything except Bulb, Manual, Aperture, Shutter and Program (auto on acid)