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infeeneetee
9th of March 2005 (Wed), 12:22
Adobe RGB profile
infeeneetee
9th of March 2005 (Wed), 12:23
sRGB
infeeneetee
9th of March 2005 (Wed), 12:26
my monitor displays #2 more saturate.. im using Adobe RGB working space but it happens when i save for the web in sRGB..
i have calibrated my monitor but remain the same..
do u see the difference?
neil_r
9th of March 2005 (Wed), 12:29
Definately greater saturation in #2
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mbze430
9th of March 2005 (Wed), 12:32
yes, sRGB has a "higher saturation" because in that work space it has smaller gamut in the red/violet area.
PacAce
9th of March 2005 (Wed), 13:01
my monitor displays #2 more saturate.. im using Adobe RGB working space but it happens when i save for the web in sRGB..
i have calibrated my monitor but remain the same..
do u see the difference?
Actually, the true color is the one you saved in sRGB mode. The one in ARGB is under-saturated because it's in the ARGB space but the web browser is displaying it as if it were sRGB and that causes the color to get toned down. If you want to display images on the web they should always be converted from ARGB to sRGB and then saved for the web if you want to keep your colors nice and bright.
Skitzy
9th of March 2005 (Wed), 13:29
Number two definatly has more contrast/saturation and can I just say that floor is confusing my eyes looks like they are walking on chocolate pieces.
Sydor25
9th of March 2005 (Wed), 17:25
Number two definatly has more contrast/saturation and can I just say that floor is confusing my eyes looks like they are walking on chocolate pieces.
I was thinking Q*bert. :lol:
drisley
9th of March 2005 (Wed), 17:52
Just before saving and AdobeRGB image to the web, I always convert the image to srgb. Otherwise, the image will look undersaturated, because most (if not all) browsers are not color calibrated.
infeeneetee
9th of March 2005 (Wed), 22:31
Actually, the true color is the one you saved in sRGB mode. The one in ARGB is under-saturated because it's in the ARGB space but the web browser is displaying it as if it were sRGB and that causes the color to get toned down. If you want to display images on the web they should always be converted from ARGB to sRGB and then saved for the web if you want to keep your colors nice and bright.
photo #2 have been done the same what u have explained to me .. i converted it to sRGB before save for the web but become more saturate.. this is very confusing me... in my PS working display looked nice but in the save for the web preview the problem occurred.. what is the problem actually?..
is that because of my monitor or what?? i really stuck now.. i will waste my money if i print them out.. i know photolab will accept sRGB and if i want to print them in big print (inkjet) i must use adobeRGB.. but how can i get the colors i want if this problem still goes on.. ??
plss help me..
maderito
9th of March 2005 (Wed), 23:18
photo #2 have been done the same what u have explained to me .. i converted it to sRGB before save for the web but become more saturate.. this is very confusing me... in my PS working display looked nice but in the save for the web preview the problem occurred.. what is the problem actually?..
is that because of my monitor or what?? i really stuck now.. i will waste my money if i print them out.. i know photolab will accept sRGB and if i want to print them in big print (inkjet) i must use adobeRGB.. but how can i get the colors i want if this problem still goes on.. ??
plss help me..
When in the Save for Web dialog, there is a flyout menu at the top right of the JPEG image preview. Compare the appearance of the image with "Use document color profile" and "Standard Windows Color".
If you did the conversion properly from Adobe RGB to sRGB, the document color profile view should should look about the same as the standard Windows color view unless your monitor is improperly calibrated. The typical CRT monitor - when properly calibrated - approximates an sRGB color space.
In general, you want the selection set to "Use document color profile." I believe the "Standard Windows Color" option uses your monitor profile which is what you get when viewing images in a non-color managed application.
Based on what you've said - sounds like you may have a monitor profile problem.
PacAce
10th of March 2005 (Thu), 06:56
photo #2 have been done the same what u have explained to me .. i converted it to sRGB before save for the web but become more saturate.. this is very confusing me... in my PS working display looked nice but in the save for the web preview the problem occurred.. what is the problem actually?..
is that because of my monitor or what?? i really stuck now.. i will waste my money if i print them out.. i know photolab will accept sRGB and if i want to print them in big print (inkjet) i must use adobeRGB.. but how can i get the colors i want if this problem still goes on.. ??
plss help me..
I had something like this happen on my work computer. That was the first time I ever tried to do photo editing on it and the colors turned over saturated when I converted an image from ARGB to sRGB and then did a "Save for Web". That was because my monitor was not calibrated. I thought it was but what was really calibrated was the LCD screen (I have a laptop attached to a docking station and an external monitor). After I calibrated the monitor using the Adobe Gamma program (only thing available to me at work), the colors came out much better.
I have a sneaky suspicion that your monitor may also need to be calibrated if your colors aren't getting converted correctly when going from ARGB to sRGB.
MageProductions.com
11th of March 2005 (Fri), 10:03
Yes, the difference is quite obvious.
I have been given to understand that the "Adobe R.G.B." color space is meant for commercial print work. Therefore, the intended target is CYMK, which is miserable, in every sense of the word!
Myself, I can't decide between "Wide Gamut R.G.B." and "Pro Photo" R.G.B. It seems they are close enough that individual images look better in one, or the other.
I'm just getting into this and I would really, REALLY appreciate some help. I bought an EZ-COLOR Bundle. It just arrived, today. Also on order is a i9900. Anybody know a good bankrupcy lawer, who works cheap?
I'll get my monitors/scanner/printer calibrated. But THEN... lol ... then, what?
My current thing is to use the Canon digital photo pro to pre-process the RAW images, then save than as another RAW. Then the RAW plugin (in photoshop) to adjust white balance, exposure, etc. Then photoshop, first the shadow/highlight then the brightness/contrast and finally the hue/saturation, and save as a 48-bit TIFF file. I edit 16 bits/channel, all the way through.
The last thing I do is to load the edited images into a program called THUMBS PLUS. It's just that I've been using it forever - lol It is very easy to do final color correction (MUCH easier, though not nearly as powerful (of course) as photoshop).
What I intyend to TRY is applying the printer color space to the image, just before the final save in pohotoshop. Then doing the final color optimization with that profile.
Am I on track, here? How do YOU do this... please?
maderito
11th of March 2005 (Fri), 12:17
Yes, the difference is quite obvious.
What I intyend to TRY is applying the printer color space to the image, just before the final save in pohotoshop. Then doing the final color optimization with that profile.
Am I on track, here? How do YOU do this... please?
You should do all of your image editing in PS - not Thumbs Plus - a worthy piece of software for cataloguing and databasing but not editing images.
The last step in preparing a file for printing is conversion to the printer's color space. This can be performed by the printer driver ("Printer Color Management" option when using PS) or you can have the conversion performed by PS using the appropriate ICC profile and turning off printer color mangement in the printer driver.
If your overall workflow is not correct, your final result will suffer. You should follow the steps of a standard capture, edit, print workflow using PS and your Canon printer.
You might begin at this site for good advice:
http://www.computer-darkroom.com/ps8-colour/ps8_1.htm
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