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shingo43
15th of December 2008 (Mon), 02:56
how much do I need so spend for a 77mm CPL ? did anyone compare the 10 dollar ones and those 100 dollars ones ?
can I use PP to get the same effect as using CPL?
comparsion pictures will be much appraciated.Thanks
harroz
15th of December 2008 (Mon), 03:43
you can't use pp to get the exact same effect, actually you probably could if you were amazing at photoshop. a cpl cuts reflections from reflective surfaces like water and glass.
it depends on what you are shooting and if you are selling your images, and your budget. but normally the more you pay the better they are. I certainly wouldn't pay $10 for one. The least expensive will do what a cpl does, but it won't have the same quality glass or clarity. hope that helps.
theyangster
15th of December 2008 (Mon), 03:50
Unless you are skilled enough to PP out reflections from water and glare...then maybe...
Just kidding, no amount of PP (besides contrast) can replicate a polarizing filter, since when used right, it cuts out reflection, can remove 'haze', etc
one 'penalty' is 2-3 stops, but depending on the situation, it may help.
I'd stay away from tiffen/sunpak filters, I currently have a tiffen UV filter as a 'protector', but I've noticed ghosting/internal reflections, esp. in night shots.
A compromise between the $10 to 100 range is of course something in between (duh...), Hoya and Kenko are two brands that come to mind.
http://hvstar.net/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=25
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=417883
hope that helps
Ukuleleman
15th of December 2008 (Mon), 06:45
A polarising filter will cut out glare on water so that you can see what is below the surface, no amount of PP in Photoshop will reveal what isn't there because of glare.
SkipD
15th of December 2008 (Mon), 08:13
A cheap filter will more than likely cause significant flare under the "wrong" conditions.
It's best to get the best quality multicoated filters (of any type) if you care about the quality of your images.
shingo43
15th of December 2008 (Mon), 12:55
Thanks so much guys, I decided to spend 50 bucks for a kenko or hoya
I like the reflations on water, does anyone have a picture shows reflection of the landscapes on water using CPL and without CPL?
something like this, does CPL give you better reflations?
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f317/shingo43/science%20world%20night2/IMG_2245.jpg
Amamba
15th of December 2008 (Mon), 18:42
This is why you'd want a polarizer. Taken with a film camera, no polarizer. Look at the glare in the lower right corner.
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(BTW this is also why you'd want a .22 ;) )
shingo43
15th of December 2008 (Mon), 20:17
did anyone test the differences between regular kenko/hoya vs. Pro-1??
Ukuleleman
16th of December 2008 (Tue), 08:06
Don't get mixed up, Although 'Glare' is a 'Reflection', usually of the sun that washes out detail in your pictures, it is not the sort of reflection shown in that beautiful riverscape.
Having said that, Amamba's picture is a picture of a reflection, of the flash in the glass panel of the door, I don't think I would have thought of using a polarising filter on that shot, more likely a change of position, although I guess it was a quick snapshot of the interloper, however a CPL cuts out that kind of glare whether it is caused reflecting glass, the sun, or a shiny car (reflecting the sun)
Trick Fotoez
16th of December 2008 (Tue), 08:09
Unless you are skilled enough to PP out reflections from water and glare...then maybe...
Just kidding, no amount of PP (besides contrast) can replicate a polarizing filter, since when used right, it cuts out reflection, can remove 'haze', etc
one 'penalty' is 2-3 stops, but depending on the situation, it may help.
I'd stay away from tiffen/sunpak filters, I currently have a tiffen UV filter as a 'protector', but I've noticed ghosting/internal reflections, esp. in night shots.
A compromise between the $10 to 100 range is of course something in between (duh...), Hoya and Kenko are two brands that come to mind.
http://hvstar.net/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=25
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=417883
hope that helps
i bought one to try out from these guys any idea how long they take to ship?
shingo43
16th of December 2008 (Tue), 14:25
I found a used B+W CPL on craigslist. The guy asked for $90 canadian dollars
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/9760-REG/B_W_65062162_77_mm_Circular_Polarizer.html
should I buy it or should I buy a kenko pro1 version?
how does those 2 compare?Thanks in advance
Jon
16th of December 2008 (Tue), 14:43
Between that specific B+W filter (which isn't multicoated) and the Kenko Pro1, I'd get the Pro1. It's worth verifying with the CraigsList guy whether he has the MC/MRC version or not, though. If he does have the MRC, and it's in good shape, it's a real deal.
12mnkys
16th of December 2008 (Tue), 14:48
I can attest to the B+W C-pol...Very nice filter, high quality. I purchased mine from B&H.
Microcosm
16th of December 2008 (Tue), 14:58
Look around for a good deal. I just got a B+W multicoated for $30. It's a few years old, and it's scratched ever so slightly, but it was a hell of a deal.
shingo43
16th of December 2008 (Tue), 15:10
Between that specific B+W filter (which isn't multicoated) and the Kenko Pro1, I'd get the Pro1. It's worth verifying with the CraigsList guy whether he has the MC/MRC version or not, though. If he does have the MRC, and it's in good shape, it's a real deal.
no,I know it is not MRC
theyangster
16th of December 2008 (Tue), 17:44
i bought one to try out from these guys any idea how long they take to ship?
it really depends, I've read they take a couple days to ship, then once it's shipped via hong kong post, it takes anywhere from 7-21 days, from what I've read. (also depends if you're on west/east coast, b/c once it reaches the US, it goes via USPS)
Trick Fotoez
16th of December 2008 (Tue), 23:39
well the shipping from hong kong was only 5 bucks so i figured it would be a while...oh well im not going anywhere
Trick Fotoez
17th of December 2008 (Wed), 06:02
if the kenko i got for my 18-55 works out i will def get the 77mm for this tokina 11-16 im really really really close to pulling the trigger on
hopefully by the time i get the 58mm and decide if its good or not, they have the 77 back in stock
theyangster
17th of December 2008 (Wed), 19:01
I bought one used from fredmiranda, so definitely check f/s of POTN and fredmiranda, you usually can get faster shipping too:D.
if you have more filter sizes and preferably a non rotating front element, you can consider getting a 77 filter and then getting adapter rings for smaller filter sizes.
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