old town river and the remains of the castle(5 pics)

[marie]

the old ruined castle by the river today

the church steeple is peeping over the castle in the first picture
before (in my other post) it was peeping over the bank
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new buildings are going up around the ruins all the time
the old and the new together

this last picture shows the river with town houses in the background




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slightly slanted >


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if anyone would like to know something of the history of the old ruin (castle) here it is

(edit :
I had to take off some of the printed details which I had posted here
as they were too blurry to read
sorry)


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[sparker1]

Interesting series, Marie. With the right perspective, you could have shown just the ruin (with or without the steeple). However, it adds a lot to see the contrast of nearby development. That is really the story being told. I really love the ones of the boats near the dam.

[Frank_Hollahan]

very nice pics, but what a shame, but I guess that' s development for ya.

[RJSorensen]

I am so in love with your rich history Marie . . . I just love to see your shots. I guess I must come back.

[marie]

Interesting series, Marie. With the right perspective, you could have shown just the ruin (with or without the steeple). However, it adds a lot to see the contrast of nearby development. That is really the story being told. I really love the ones of the boats near the dam.

thank you Stan
I showed this bare ruin a few times with other pictures on the forum
(Sandy will vouch for that)http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

it may have been before your time here
this time I wanted to show the river mostly and the scene from the other side


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around the other side some more of the castle is being preserved but closed off now . I used to be able to walk inside
(with the crows who nest all around)

a lot of our stuff over here is very well preserved and looked after

this is a college town ( I meant to say that last time when I said it was a university by mistake) and mostly these are new apartments going up


the castle ruins are still interesting
in fact with all this going on beside it makes it even more interesting
we have plenty of ruined castles which hold their own ,on their own land
masses of it

I like the progress, when it is done like this
think it is nice

[marie]

very nice pics, but what a shame, but I guess that' s development for ya.

thanks a lot Frank
no shame really but I understand what you mean

the ruin is nearly right in the town and looks ok with all the stuff going on around it
if they wanted it could all have gone up in smoke but something of it is still here

I am just rambling on now ( with my own thoughts) >

when we really think of it, we all have fine roads to do as we will
and want them , but none of us want anything disturbed in the beautiful countryside and things like this

I imagine that's how our forefathers must have felt
yet we all got housing and electricity and oil and all the stuff we all use everyday
big supermarkets, big shopping centres etc etc etc etc
big garages
(for the big cars)
even big camera storeshttp://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

what a sight of horror they must have been for all our grandparents
taking up precious countryside which they had all around them at one time
some things have to move forward
they just have to
and today we are all more aware of what is important
even more so then ever before
but progress has to be made always

we still have so much of the beauty around us
and all these other things we use in our everyday life as well
to gain easy access to the beautiful places.
most of our grandparents never could ,when they were young

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but it's how I feel
we have to move on in some ways. or all we would have is old ruins
and no roads to talk of.
how I love the beautiful motorways
which allow cruising through the beautiful countryside
which we would probably never see
only for that beautiful road laid out, right down the centre
for miles and miles and miles
we can't have everything
and the way it's going I see nothing only improvment mostly everywhere

thanks again

[marie]

I am so in love with your rich history Marie . . . I just love to see your shots. I guess I must come back.

:)
:cool:


thank you very much RJ.

[stoneylonesome]

Beautiful shots Marie, I do so hope that every effort is used to preserve some of the old castles and such, regardless of what's left of them. History is so important and it should be preserved as much as possible, with good planning and engineering the new and the old can certainlly co-exist. I always say "We can't know where we're going, if we don't know where we've been". History is a dear teacher if we would only allow it. :) :)

[marie]

Beautiful shots Marie, I do so hope that every effort is used to preserve some of the old castles and such, regardless of what's left of them.


History is so important and it should be preserved as much as possible, with good planning and engineering the new and the old can certainlly co-exist. I always say "We can't know where we're going, if we don't know where we've been". History is a dear teacher if we would only allow it. http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

thank you Sandy

there is a lot to preserve over here
and when it is looked after
it's very well done
no worries

(take Newgrange which I showed pictures here some time ago
as just one example >

http://www.knowth.com/newgrange.htm (http://www.knowth.com/newgrange.htm)

http://www.mythicalireland.com/ancientsites/newgrange/

what a place.
it's wonderful to be there at all

as for the expression
* 'we can't know where we're going if we don't know where we've been'

well...
I wonder how many know their past, those who live abroad http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif
there are not many who are true natives of the country they have been living in all their lives
(especially in the U.S. )

that * expression which you mention ...suggests to me
'we come from God, we go back to God'
so we find out more and we understand more.
of what we are all about


no worries
this country is full of historic 'monuments' or ruins
all very well 'looked after' in their own way
and there for us all to enjoy

I think it's really good for the students to have this ruin so near their living quarters
just terrific to have such history right on their doorstep... almost

I wouldn't mind it outside my hall doorhttp://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

I love the new and the old shown here together.
they look well.
so long as it is done tastefully
all depends on the thought and planning going into the 'new'

some ruins and very old castles can be dangerous
so they have to be protected from the public
for the sake of both the building or the people
especially children running around
and as they usually are in the countryside the children are 'let loose' to run around
and as usually the ruin is perched on a hilltop ,children really have to be watched

the castles and ruins can be very beautiful in those surroundings also.
make no mistakes I love each in their own way
and for what they represent.
I also love well thought out progress.
in today's world we need both

one to keep our feet on the ground

and the other to help us fly (and move on)

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[jgbeam]

You've got some nice old structures over there, Marie. I'm all for saving as much as possible, but greed and neglect seem to be very powerful forces. Thanks for sharing these images.

Jim

[stoneylonesome]

that * expression which you mention ...suggests to me
'we come from God, we go back to God'
so we find out more and we understand more.
of what we are all about

That is another good way of looking at my quote Marie, My take on it though is that History has a way of repeating itself, and if you don't know the history of your country firstly and the countries of the world then we will never learn from the mistakes of the past and continue to repeat them. The sad thing is that in this country anyway, they don't teach history the way they used. As far as what your own roots are, that should be what your family teaches you, I know mine did. and along with it I learned alot about My country and the countries my forefathers came from.

[DSMITH131]

Very nice

[marie]

You've got some nice old structures over there, Marie. I'm all for saving as much as possible, but greed and neglect seem to be very powerful forces. Thanks for sharing these images.

Jim

thanks Jim

I think you'd know a lot more about what really goes on in cases like it .
in fact I know you would
and I can see the point you are making.

being as the town was built around this ruin years ago anyway there is not much to lose at this stage
it's not often we see a ruined castle smack bang in a built up area
:confused:


they might even sell air conditioning in it eventually
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[marie]

That is another good way of looking at my quote Marie, My take on it though is that History has a way of repeating itself, and if you don't know the history of your country firstly and the countries of the world then we will never learn from the mistakes of the past and continue to repeat them. The sad thing is that in this country anyway, they don't teach history the way they used. As far as what your own roots are, that should be what your family teaches you, I know mine did. and along with it I learned alot about My country and the countries my forefathers came from.


many thanks Sandy
I agree with you about all you say.
especially history repeating itself.
even when things are known to be wrong
the 'mistakes' get repeated
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it's great that you were told a lot about your families past from your parents.
I imagine it's not always possible for some and information gets lost along the way.

~

at least the sun shone for a short while yesterday when I was taking the shots.
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haven't seen it for some while.
otherwise the sky here in the pictures would have been grey/white.

I met an old man near the river (which is beside the town)
he asked me so many questions about my school days
was I beaten by the nuns (no)
teacher's ? (yes)
for writing with my left hand http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif

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he got the leather strap himself ( he said )
(not nuns ) showed me how thick and how wide it had been


I said it did us no harm
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[marie]

Very nice

thanks very much DS
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[ChristopherMartin]

Very Cool! But man that yellow building in the first picture SUCKS, takes the focus away from the Castle. I like them, great pictures!

Here in Alberta, the oldest stuff we have are 100+ years old.

[sparker1]

Back again, Marie, to tell you I also like the castle ruin all by itself in your earlier posting. You have evoked lots of philosphy with this series, so I think it is good to produce discussion about life from your photographs.

[thomascanty]

Nice looking area. I'll bet that was a pretty impressive castle when it was intact!

[marie]

Thank you very much Christopher, Stan and Lonnie

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[Lissa]

Great pictures, Marie!

I visited Ireland in 1996, and one of my recurring thoughts was how wonderful it is that the ruins are allowed to stand, and so many are in fact preserved. It seems that in America a building is deemed too old at a few decades, and is torn down.

I've been wanting to go back to Ireland for so long. I love seeing your pictures!

[marie]

Great pictures, Marie!

I visited Ireland in 1996, and one of my recurring thoughts was how wonderful it is that the ruins are allowed to stand, and so many are in fact preserved. It seems that in America a building is deemed too old at a few decades, and is torn down.

I've been wanting to go back to Ireland for so long. I love seeing your pictures!


thanks very much Lissa
I hope you make it back here sometime.

[ssim]

They are lovely pictures Marie. Your countryside is still on my hitlist to visit.

Nicely done and you tell a story so well.

[JMAS]

Wonderful photos and very wise words, Marie.
"I love the new and the old shown here together.
they look well.
so long as it is done tastefully
all depends on the thought and planning going into the 'new'"
(...)
" I love each in their own way
and for what they represent.
I also love well thought out progress.
in today's world we need both

one to keep our feet on the ground

and the other to help us fly (and move on)"

Frankly never had seen this better said and ilustrated
;)

[marie]

They are lovely pictures Marie. Your countryside is still on my hitlist to visit.

Nicely done and you tell a story so well.


thank you very much Sheldon

[marie]

Wonderful photos and very wise words, Marie.
"I love the new and the old shown here together.
they look well.
so long as it is done tastefully
all depends on the thought and planning going into the 'new'"
(...)
" I love each in their own way
and for what they represent.
I also love well thought out progress.
in today's world we need both

one to keep our feet on the ground

and the other to help us fly (and move on)"

Frankly never had seen this better said and ilustrated
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gulp

thanks Jamie

[CyberDyneSystems]

Growing up in the "new world" where nothing is lder than a few hundred years (and I grew up in the very very old part of the new world mind you) it is hard for us to imagine really places where ancient castles stand side by side next to houses built in the 20th century..

Great shots!

[marie]

Growing up in the "new world" where nothing is lder than a few hundred years (and I grew up in the very very old part of the new world mind you) it is hard for us to imagine really places where ancient castles stand side by side next to houses built in the 20th century..

Great shots!


maybe you'll visit over here some day too , thanks Cyber