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Dans_D60
1st of December 2002 (Sun), 21:11
Anyone have suggestions on wide angle lenses for the D60? I already own a good assortment of normal and telephoto lenses including 28-70 2.8 L, 70-200 2.8 L, 100-400 4.5 IS L, and a 50 1.4 prime. I don’t use wide angle much, but when I do the 28-70 with 1.6X just doesn’t get there! The new Canon 16-35 2.8 L is getting great reviews, but a little expensive for someone who would not use it regularly. I’m also looking at the Sigma 15-30. Anyone have experience with this new lens? Other suggestions?
Dan
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robertwgross
2nd of December 2002 (Mon), 03:23
I hear what you are saying. I recently acquired the 20-35mm wide zoom for my D60, but I hadn't tested it much. I took it out for a shoot several days ago, and out of maybe 100 frames, I used the wide zoom for only three.

The L lens is pricey. I agree.

---Bob Gross---

Roger_Cavanagh
2nd of December 2002 (Mon), 03:41
The Canon EF20/2.8 is worth a look. Not a zoom, but good quality lens.

Regards,

J D Sauser
2nd of December 2002 (Mon), 08:29
I´m facing the same problem. Funny thing is (actually not sooo funny), that I just bought a D60 BECAUSE I needed to make some wide angle shots digital... I have an old film EOS and a 19-30mm lens. I didn´t know about the 1.6x "zoom" ratio and now my low 19mm is almost a 30mm. To get back to the effect of a 19mm I´d need to get me a 12mm lens.. though to find for less than the price of the camera. I´m stumped and not too happy right now.

chris maddock
2nd of December 2002 (Mon), 10:23
J D Sauser wrote:
I´m facing the same problem. Funny thing is (actually not sooo funny), that I just bought a D60 BECAUSE I needed to make some wide angle shots digital... I have an old film EOS and a 19-30mm lens. I didn´t know about the 1.6x "zoom" ratio and now my low 19mm is almost a 30mm. To get back to the effect of a 19mm I´d need to get me a 12mm lens.. though to find for less than the price of the camera. I´m stumped and not too happy right now.

How about taking four shots and stitching them. A bit of a PITA, I know, but undoubtedly cheaper than a 12mm lens.

KRs
Chris

dbarthel
2nd of December 2002 (Mon), 12:09
There is an interesting article at www.fredmiranda.com about using the 15mm fisheye and post processing to obtain a non-fisheye wide angle shot. The 15mm fisheye is relatively inexpensive compared to the 16 to 35mm zoom and the software to do the conversion is freeware. BTW, the 16-35 is an outstanding choice for the D60 if you can justify the $$. I find I have it on the camera almost as much as my 28-135 IS lens.

Dan

Guille
2nd of December 2002 (Mon), 15:31
I just bought a D30 and used it for the first time yesterday. The Canon 20-35mm becomes an excellent zoom for moderate wide to normal. But if you need WIDE go for a 14mm (about 21mm in D30), I am saving to buy one.

JR92
2nd of December 2002 (Mon), 22:27
I have a Sigma 15mm fish-eye that gets about as wide as a guy would want. The fish-eye effect can easily be taken out, and the size of the photo will not change if your shooting in Large. I feel there is no need in me buying any other lens for wide angle work. It also lets in a lot of light which makes it nice too.

torun2
2nd of December 2002 (Mon), 23:13
I received a Sigma 15-30 several weeks ago and must say that I am well pleased. I did extensive research before buying the Sigma. It was a decision between the Canon 16-35L and the Sigma 15-30. The reviews I read generally rated the Sigma images to be at least as sharp, and sometimes sharper than the Canon. The extra 1mm is actually alot more noticeable than you would think. I paid just under $500.00 including shipping and the Canon is at least $1300.00... those are the pros....now for the cons...The colours are said to be slightly better, you get the speed of 2.8 across the entire focal range, the focusing is quieter and faster, the build is said to be more rugged, and you have the extra 5mm on the long end with the Canon. My particular needs, shooting style and budget added up to a pretty clear choice in favor of the Sigma. I do a great deal of prep sports and the Sigma was purchased for some specialty sports shots such as baseball teams in the dugout and some other odd and creative stuff, to include interiors and groups of people in limited spaces.
This is my 2 cents worth and I hope it helps. I almost failed to add that my main camera is a D60.

Dans_D60
3rd of December 2002 (Tue), 07:37
Thanks for all your feedback!
Dan

EA6B
3rd of December 2002 (Tue), 12:13
I picked up a used Sigma 14 3.5 for 400 bucks from my dealer. It was a rental that hardly went out. He was asking 450 plus tax, I asked and got it for 400 out the door.

E

J D Sauser
7th of December 2002 (Sat), 11:14
Thanks to all that replied.
Yes, stiching is a posibility but it's not sooo easy when doing indoor pictures...
I've been thinking that a fisheye (cheaper) could be de-distortioned with software... Question is: Can you point me to a site where I cn download a quality program?
Thanks! ... J-D.

john_houghton
8th of December 2002 (Sun), 02:12
J D Sauser wrote:
Yes, stiching is a posibility but it's not sooo easy when doing indoor pictures...
I've been thinking that a fisheye (cheaper) could be de-distortioned with software... Question is: Can you point me to a site where I can download a quality program?
Stitching indoor images is quite straightforward, provided you use a tripod and mount the camera such that it rotates about a nodal point of the lens. Panorama Tools will meet your requirements for a quality stitching program and for remapping fisheye images. It will also do multi-row stitching. Takes time to learn how to use it, however. It's a lot friendlier if a front-end user interface program is used, such as PTAssembler, PTGui or PTMac. Pano Tools and PTAssembler are both freeware, but my own preference is for Pano Tools + PTGui.

The main Panorama Tools web site is currently offline, but there's a mirror at http://www.path.unimelb.edu.au/~dersch/ and a stitching tutorial at http://homepage.dtn.ntl.com/j.houghton/pttute.htm .

John

Sheila
8th of December 2002 (Sun), 21:46
I agree with Guille. I have the EF20-35 and its an excellent reasonably priced wide angle. I did try the Tokina 16-35 but would not focus on my D60.

Cheers
Sheila

traveler
11th of December 2002 (Wed), 19:54
I guess if that dilemma was mine, I'd either go for the 16-35 2.8L zoom or a 20mm 2.8 Prime, whichever meets your WA needs or budget. I have the zoom and it is wonderful (and expensive) but if you are looking for a long term purchase it is indeed the best way to go...

dannyjl
12th of December 2002 (Thu), 08:38
I've been going through the same dilema. I have a Canon 20mm and really like it but it is still not giving me that "wide" look. Thought about selling it and getting the 16-35 or the sigma 15-30. Then last week I noticed the Tokina 17mm ATX Proand did some reasearch via the net forums. Seems to be well liked by the few who have or had it. So, ordered one from Adorama last night. I'll be heading out to Canyonlands and Arches just after xmas and will post my feelings on this lens after the trip. At $335 (after rebate) it seems like a reasonable alternative for the near ultra wide.

SteveCliff
12th of December 2002 (Thu), 08:54
As Jessops were doing a special deal when I bought my D60, I managed to get a new Sigma 15-30mm very cheaply! For the UK anyway :(

Extremely pleased with the lens - just make sure that if you get stuck to using the inbuilt flash that you don't head towards the wide end too much, else vignetting becomes an issue (at around 20mm if I remember correctly?)

fastbikerider
3rd of January 2003 (Fri), 04:59
Get the sigma 15-30, you can get them from hong kong for less than 300 dollars. thats where i got mine, its awesome, email me for some test prints with a d60.

traveler
3rd of January 2003 (Fri), 16:14
The long and short of it is that unless you are prepared and willing to spend the extra $$$ of the Canon L, the Sigma 15-30DG will meet most peoples needs. I know some pretty fussy photographers that have gone this route and been satisfied. Considering it's 1/3 the price it's hard not to consider. The overall optical performance is outstanding, especially for the price, and IMHO there really is NO competition for it. I'd go with the Sigma, unless of course you're looking "long term", then the Canon is certainly an excellent investment in future cameras.....

unibyte
31st of January 2003 (Fri), 09:56
Hi!

This price is very attractive. Where did you buy this Sigma lens? You wrote in Hong Kong but what the web address of this company.

Thank you for the information in advice.

Viktor

t2frx
27th of April 2004 (Tue), 07:37
Get the sigma 15-30, you can get them from hong kong for less than 300 dollars. thats where i got mine, its awesome, email me for some test prints with a d60. :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea:

msvadi
27th of April 2004 (Tue), 07:53
can you share more details? did you order it from the web? or one actually has to go to hong kong? ;)

well, now that I see the date of the original post, I probably should not wait for an answer ;)

Get the sigma 15-30, you can get them from hong kong for less than 300 dollars. thats where i got mine, its awesome, email me for some test prints with a d60.

msvadi
27th of April 2004 (Tue), 07:54
I think that nobody has mentioned Sigma 12-24. I wonder why ...

iwatkins
27th of April 2004 (Tue), 07:59
I think that nobody has mentioned Sigma 12-24. I wonder why ...

I think because the original thread started back at the end of 2002 and the Sigma 12-24 wasn't out then. Throw in the fact that user t2frx first and only post was to grave dig this old thread up.

Cheers

Ian

daaaveman
27th of April 2004 (Tue), 08:01
No one has mentioned the 17-40 f/4L either. Great lens for the price....about $700.

msvadi
27th of April 2004 (Tue), 08:02
I think that nobody has mentioned Sigma 12-24. I wonder why ...

I think because the original thread started back at the end of 2002 and the Sigma 12-24 wasn't out then. Throw in the fact that user t2frx first and only post was to grave dig this old thread up.

Cheers

Ian

I did not notice the date ;)
interesting, the guy still gets recommendations ;)

nosquare2003
27th of April 2004 (Tue), 08:02
Yes, it's a very old thread. All the main cameras are D60!

By the way, I don't think that the Sigma 15-30 is less than $300 in Hong Kong.

roanjohn
27th of April 2004 (Tue), 08:35
HA HA!!!

I was wondering why there was no mention of the 17-40 too!!! DUH!!!

:oops:

This really made my day.

Ro1

t2frx
10th of May 2004 (Mon), 10:31
Get the sigma 15-30, you can get them from hong kong for less than 300 dollars. thats where i got mine, its awesome, email me for some test prints with a d60.

I have bought in january an angle finder canon for my 10D to this guy (Gary Tyson) on e-bay; he has got my money by cheque and I'm still waiting for it and have no news ??? Is sombody knows this guy. It seems to be a military ?

thanks for your help

Guillermo Freige
10th of May 2004 (Mon), 11:52
I have a Sigma 12-24 and I highly recommend it. Very nice lens and one of my favorites. Not very fast (f/4.5-5.6) but AF is very good even in low light and the lens is pretty consistent at all apertures and focal lenghts
AF is fast and silent, and the lens just "feels" good. Nice companion to my 28-135IS, and at 20 is actually better in the borders (less CA) than the Sigma 20/1.8, and just slightly softer. In fact I'm considering to sell the 20/1.8