View Full Version : Someone wants to use my picture
Katiana
30th of December 2008 (Tue), 13:28
I'm a lowly amateur and I really have no idea what to do with this XD. I know that I'm willing to give up the photo for use, and the website that the man gives is legitimate plus he offers compensation. I just really don't know what to say back. As a sixteen year old my business skills are rather stunted :p. I've read over a few threads, but I'm still not really sure about what I should say. Do I just reply with a 'Thanks, awesome, how much are you willing to give' (obviously a little more eloquently phrased)?
Kate,
I found your photo online of the old couple and the fireworks and I was wondering if you would allow me to use that in a newspaper ad. Certainly, we would be willing to pay you for the use.
My name is Aaron Sutton and I am the Marketing Director at Beach Properties of Florida www. beachpropertiesofflorida. com (http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vd3d3LmJlYWNocHJvcGVydGllc29mZmxvcmlkYS 5jb20=)
You can email me at ***** or call ******
take care!
Thanks for your help!
scotteisenphotography
30th of December 2008 (Tue), 13:30
get all the information on how many ads it's going to be ran in, how many prints, and so on... then we can figure out a price
Katiana
30th of December 2008 (Tue), 13:33
Okay, I'll e-mail him about that right now :]
Tumeg
30th of December 2008 (Tue), 13:51
First off, congrats! I am also just 16, so I won't be telling you what you should say but; Is the "old couple" recognizable? If so, you will need a model release before you do anything.
LW Dail
30th of December 2008 (Tue), 14:02
While we wait, I'd like to say congratulations! 16 and someone wants to use your work!
I'm feeling like a momma hen, all puffed up and proud of you! Regardless of what happens, congratulations!
MJPhotos24
30th of December 2008 (Tue), 14:34
Of course they're willing to pay - sorry but that brought a tear to my eye as there's so many posts on here wanting to get free stuff first. Yea, as advised get the spec info and tell them you'd be happy to discuss usage rights.
Little tip, don't sound like a pumped up 16 year old when responding ;)
hawkeye60
30th of December 2008 (Tue), 14:39
The link you posted does not work, before you get too excited, are they for real?
gooble
30th of December 2008 (Tue), 14:48
I'm a lowly amateur and I really have no idea what to do with this XD. I know that I'm willing to give up the photo for use, and the website that the man gives is legitimate plus he offers compensation. I just really don't know what to say back. As a sixteen year old my business skills are rather stunted :p. I've read over a few threads, but I'm still not really sure about what I should say. Do I just reply with a 'Thanks, awesome, how much are you willing to give' (obviously a little more eloquently phrased)?
Thanks for your help!
I don't know exactly what you meant by this statement but what is usually done in these situations is that you sell licensing rights not the image itself or in other words the copyright. You will want to basically sell a license for the buyer to use your image according to certain guidelines. I just wanted to clarify and wasn't sure if you thought that you were selling the image outright.
Second the "you'll need a model release if the people are recognizable" comment.
Tumeg
30th of December 2008 (Tue), 16:23
The link you posted does not work, before you get too excited, are they for real?
There is a space after the "www." and before the ".com" I typed in the url without the spaces, an got this: http://www.beachpropertiesofflorida.com/
Not sure what the page shows though, lol, I am on a mac and it is blocked by the darn "parental controls"
Dennis_Hammer
30th of December 2008 (Tue), 16:44
Make sure you have a releases for the 'older couple'.
Katiana
30th of December 2008 (Tue), 18:07
Make sure you have a releases for the 'older couple'.
They are not recognizable as they are in silhouette (here is the link to the picture in question (http://www.flickr.com/photos/clichekate/740915134/))
Here's what I said
Hello Aaron,
Thank you for contacting me about the use of one of my photos! I was wondering if I could ask you a few questions about the newspaper ad first. How large would the ad be and approximately how many copies of it would be ran?
Thanks so much,
Kate
This is what he replied to me with:
Kate,
The ad will be 3x5 inches. and the ad will run in the Walton Sun newspaper down here on the beach. The Sun prints about 6,000 copies every Saturday. It would be a one time use.
Thanks for all of the kind words and help, you guys have no idea how much I appreciate it.
EnronRocks
30th of December 2008 (Tue), 18:20
Well, quick question. He describes the picture as an old couple, do you know the people in the picture? Before you sell the image, you need some legal documents signed by the people in the image stating that it's "ok" for you to sell an image of them for profit.
EDIT: Forget that, I took a look at the picture. You should be fine.
scotteisenphotography
30th of December 2008 (Tue), 18:21
I'd personally charge them atleast 250 dollars, probably more. It's a good photo. Doesn't matter how old you are.
dbvirago
30th of December 2008 (Tue), 18:42
There is a space after the "www." and before the ".com" I typed in the url without the spaces, an got this: http://www.beachpropertiesofflorida.com/
Not sure what the page shows though, lol, I am on a mac and it is blocked by the darn "parental controls"
But the orginal link only looks like http://www.beachpropertiesofflorida.com/ but points to disabled myspace page. You gotta be a real screw up to get kicked off myspace.
Whatever they tell you, don't send them any money for any reason, or give them access to any personal information. This has scam written all over it.
MJPhotos24
30th of December 2008 (Tue), 19:01
But the orginal link only looks like http://www.beachpropertiesofflorida.com/ but points to disabled myspace page. You gotta be a real screw up to get kicked off myspace.
Whatever they tell you, don't send them any money for any reason, or give them access to any personal information. This has scam written all over it.
I think you're a bit confused honestly, that's not a notice of someone getting kicked off Myspace. They have that warning for external links and when it's not written correctly (i.e. spaces there not supposed to be) that will come up. My guess is she took that link from a Myspace message? My guess.
fortisi876
30th of December 2008 (Tue), 19:03
But the orginal link only looks like http://www.beachpropertiesofflorida.com/ but points to disabled myspace page. You gotta be a real screw up to get kicked off myspace.
Whatever they tell you, don't send them any money for any reason, or give them access to any personal information. This has scam written all over it.Or as stated as a possible reason on that myspace page....... "The link was spam! No one likes spammers, and we don't like their links."
Good luck with your possible sale.
Katiana
30th of December 2008 (Tue), 19:17
I think you're a bit confused honestly, that's not a notice of someone getting kicked off Myspace. They have that warning for external links and when it's not written correctly (i.e. spaces there not supposed to be) that will come up. My guess is she took that link from a Myspace message? My guess.
You're right XD. Sorry about the confusion everyone! It's just an external link alert.
noxcuses1
30th of December 2008 (Tue), 19:22
First of all, I think you should definitely reconsider posting images that are printable up on your flickr. Also, it's so easy for someone to just save the image to their computer. Something you learn with age. ;)
EnronRocks
30th of December 2008 (Tue), 19:25
God they used MySpace, it MUST be a scam. Call the FBI!
Beach Properties of Florida is a reputable company. Go ahead with the deal, get payment before you send the image.
First of all, I think you should definitely reconsider posting images that are printable up on your flickr. Also, it's so easy for someone to just save the image to their computer. Something you learn with age.
Yes, of course growing up teaches you how to watermark.
dekalbSTEEL
31st of December 2008 (Wed), 20:43
Any concern with regard to entering into a contract with a minor on this one? Should the OP's parents be involved?
MJPhotos24
1st of January 2009 (Thu), 14:47
Any concern with regard to entering into a contract with a minor on this one? Should the OP's parents be involved?
Wondered that but it depends on the state laws I do believe, you can work at 16 in most states. So if no contract involved they could just pay and be done with it. You can put terms on the invoice so terms are in writing, just not a signed contract. I know one company I shoot for does this with there invoices, small print with the terms but it's not signed by either party, just says by submitting the invoice you agree to the terms.
amfoto1
2nd of January 2009 (Fri), 19:22
The Walton Sun is a small circulation, free distibution weekly newspaper. Their press run, according to their website, is 12,000 copies (double what the client told you, but they might be refering to only the home delivery portion of the circulation... the rest are free for the taking in racks).
Their ad rates for a display ad 3 columns by 5" is $155.40, open (non-contract) rate. That's the newspaper's most expensive rate. So, I bet you will hear choking noises out of them if you quote them $250.
Try to get them to make an offer somehow, such as asking what their budget for this ad it. If they don't get specific. Maybe ask $50 or so and ask them to mail you six copies of the newspaper for your portfolio.
It's odd that they only want to do a single insertion, too. Most advertisers run a campaign, or a series of ads. It's far more effective. But, maybe they have other photos they plan to use in their other ads.
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