Have you ever been stopped from shooting at the airport?

[FA_Productions]

Have you ever been stopped from shooting at the airport? Last year, I stopped in a parking lot just outside of ATL to try out my new 100-400, and was almost arreasted by the ATL Police before I could even get one picture. I was off of airport property and was told that taking any pictures of aircraft and of the airport was illegal. I questions this and did get to go home, but I did follow up with the ATL Police, FAA and TSA and got the real answer that they did not want to deal with all of the calls about someone taking pictures of the airport.

Anybody else ever have problems?

[joedlh]

The public and authorities are very skittish about potential terrorist action directed at commercial airlines. Right or wrong, and probably based on watching way too many "24" episodes, they think that photographs will be the prelude. They are watching all the time. Knowing that, I would never ever whip out a camera anywhere near the exterior of an airport. If I needed to get shots of this type, I would seek written permission beforehand and let the authorities know exactly when I was going to do the shoot -- like getting a phone number and calling them with, "Hi, I'm outside the British Air terminal right now. I have permission to take photographs from airport authorities." Or stopping in the airport security office on the way to the shoot to show them the permission.

[gjl711]

I have recently taken pictures inside Ohare, LAX, and Honolulu without incident.

[FLphotoguy]

In 2005, I was in San Francisco for Fleet Week. On Sunday, I went to a parking garage just outside of SFO to catch the Blue Angels taking off. When I got to the top floor, it looked like a police convention. My first thought was that they would tell me to leave, but it was just the opposite. When they saw my long lens, they encouraged me to get a good spot and asked for my business card to see the photos. If someone calls in a complaint, the police are obligated to investigate.

http://piercehaviland.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/sffw20fc.jpg

[Mark1]

I have never had problems. I usually do a last minute test of everything at the airport... a bit late I know! And I don't hide it at all. I'm swapping lenses and going through everything. Even shooting the ground control towers, I have never been given a second look, no less stopped.

[dtw757]

I would say you ended up talking to an overzealous officer. As both a Commercial Airline Pilot and photographer there is really nothing you can photo about an airport or an aircraft that isn't alread on the web, sometimes from their own "Port" websites. I once was told I couldn't take pictures of a hotel I was staying at for the same reason...this in the middle of LA. They were afraid of terrorist targeting. Quality Inn in the middle of nowhere. Next time, show them your ID and ask for the specific law (section number) preventing you from doing this...be nice obviously but I'll bet they'll look at the ID and move on themselves.

[mycole]

It's been a mixed bag for me, depending on the airport. Some are more strict than others. While technically they don't have any legal ground to arrest you if you aren't on airport property, they can sure make your life hell and thus it's just not worth the fight. As almost everyone knows, being incredibly kind and cooperative goes a very long way with law enforcement.

Individual airports and my experience with them:

Memphis: No probs at all but others have had very bad luck in the past

Nashville: No probs

St. Louis: OMG, don't even THINK about it. There's a Boeing plant there that makes F/A-18 Super Hornets and F-15Ks for the South Korean Air Force. There is one place I found off site that is photo-friendly (it's even close to a police field office) but NOWHERE on airport property is photography allowed or tolerated.

Manchester NH: Another one to not even think about. Cops are very strict there. Why? Who knows..

Phoenix: No probs.

Louisville KY: No probs.

Chicago Midway: Surpisingly no probs.

Chicago O'Hare: Same thing, easy peasy lemon squeezy

NY JFK: Used to be photo friendly, haven't been there in a couple years.

LAX: Photo friendly

Whiteman AFB, home of the B-2 Stealth Bomber: I had no problems whatsoever taking pics from just outside the base fence. They have a very imposing security presence but I got zero flack for taking pics. I was very surprised.

Indy: Tends to be more picky than not. Cops are friendly but don't want you snapping away.

That's all I can think of for now... there is a location info forum on Fencecheck.com that can be found here...

http://www.fencecheck.com/forums/index.php/board,46.0.html

[SuzyView]

I purposely don't take my "professional" camera out at airports except maybe to take pictures of my own family. People are nervous and I don't really want to add to it, since I don't want to be thrown off a plane or have my flight delayed. :) But I can see how someone who enjoys taking pictures can be irritated by the limitations. Here in the DC area, everyone is on alert, so no shooting of any kind for me.

[FlyingPhotog]

I purposely don't take my "professional" camera out at airports except maybe to take pictures of my own family. People are nervous and I don't really want to add to it, since I don't want to be thrown off a plane or have my flight delayed. :) But I can see how someone who enjoys taking pictures can be irritated by the limitations. Here in the DC area, everyone is on alert, so no shooting of any kind for me.

You can stand in the park adjacent to Reagan National and shoot all day...

[MulesAFpilot]

I've taking photos at Houston Intercontinental without any issues. But I think this is because I called their security office when shooting from the garages. They have a spotting parking lot which is awesome though. It's at the end of 27L.

[Mark1]

... Here in the DC area, everyone is on alert, so no shooting of any kind for me.

This is where I am as well. I have never even been looked at at either Reagan Nat. or Dulles.

[FLphotoguy]

Whiteman AFB, home of the B-2 Stealth Bomber: I had no problems whatsoever taking pics from just outside the base fence. They have a very imposing security presence but I got zero flack for taking pics. I was very surprised.

Cheyenne Ave. on the south side of Nellis AFB is a popular spot and has never been a problem, even with a long lens. As long as you are off the base, they don't mind what you shoot. Shooting inside an airport terminal might be a different matter.

[FlyingPhotog]

Cheyenne Ave. on the south side of Nellis AFB is a popular spot and has never been a problem, even with a long lens. As long as you are off the base, they don't mind what you shoot. Shooting inside an airport terminal might be a different matter.

Farther north along Las Vegas Blvd (at about what would be mid field) is a good place to shoot from as well. The mountain makes a nice background when you catch a jet taking off toward the north, just as they get above the fence line.

[fishfoto]

I just shot a series of feature photos at JFK Airport. I spent 2hrs wandering through four terminals, no one said a word to me. I wasn't subtle at all.

In fact at at Terminal 7 I was shooting a baggage template, near the TSA checkpoint when a Port Authority Police Officer stopped me. He told me I couldn't shoot security.I told him I was shooting the United Airlines cabin baggage template. The police officer didn't question me, he nodded and said "OK then" and walked off.

I was there, laying on the floor with a pro-body ad 16-35f2.8 to my face and another pro body (1Ds) with 70-200f2.8 hanging off my shoulder....never questioned me.

[FLphotoguy]

Farther north along Las Vegas Blvd (at about what would be mid field) is a good place to shoot from as well. The mountain makes a nice background when you catch a jet taking off toward the north, just as they get above the fence line.

Just make sure you stay on the west side of Las Vegas Blvd (the side the Speedway is on). If you cross over to the east side, the m.p.s will stop you as you are on base property.

[Karl Johnston]

Once, military jets and personnelle made an emergency landing in a hercules at the local airport and I went out to get shots. Was told they would yank the camera by the airport staff if they caught me taking photos, as its illegal to take pictures of military personnelle's faces.

About manchester, I remember hearing in 2006 they caught 15 terrorists planning to make an attack on london in a manchester apartment block just weeks before the london bombing with the buses. My uncle was just one street down the road from where the bombing took place, actually thought about getting on a bus himself.

[MacDogg]

I was parked right in the flight path of Austin Bergstrom Airport a few months ago and was taking pics for a few hours. I did have a bunch of police cars driving by and then a red Pontiac G6 parked about 20 feet away from me and didn't leave until after I left.

http://www.macdogg.com/JAlbum/Jets/album/slides/n918wn2.jpg

[hopmedic]

St. Louis: OMG, don't even THINK about it. There's a Boeing plant there that makes F/A-18 Super Hornets and F-15Ks for the South Korean Air Force. There is one place I found off site that is photo-friendly (it's even close to a police field office) but NOWHERE on airport property is photography allowed or tolerated.

I've had mixed experience since I moved to St. Louis. The first time I came out, I sat by a gate at the west end of the airport, almost right under the flight path for 12R/30L. Ambulance came by and joined me (kewl, as I'm a former paramedic). Police drove by a couple times. Next time I was there, I was told by an officer that I couldn't sit there, but across the street up on a hill was fine. Went there several times, no problem. Other people coming to sit there as well and watch - you're almost right under the flight path.

One time, I was the only one up there, shooting away, and an officer came up and asked what I was doing.
*looks at camera* "Taking pictures."
"Why?"
"Because I like airplanes."
"You can't do that."
"An officer told me that I could."
"One of our officers?"
"I don't know - I'm new to the area, and didn't note what municipality it was. What city am I even in here?"
*no answer - she rolled up the window and made a phone call*
*window rolls down* "It's ok, you check out. It was one of our officers."
"I can stay and take pictures?"
"Yes."
"Thank you, officer."
Ummmm.... How did I check out? My ID was in my wallet? How do you know it was one of your officers? DOH! The key was being polite about it.

[tfaudree]

I had a day off from my annual recurrent flight training at DFW, so I headed down Airfield Drive by the approach end of 18R. There is a viewing park about 1/4 mile up the road, but it was looking directly into the sun. Instead, I parked in a little dirt lot off the side of the road where I would have good lighting. I was there for about an hour and then a black SUV pulled up behind me. Two officers stepped out with their black shades on and approached me. I immediately recognized the patches on their shirts to read "Dallas SWAT". They were really cool about it, saying they understood why I was there, because of the lighting issues and all, but that a few people had "called about [me]" and that I would have to leave. He kinda winked when he said it, as if he knew it was dumb that he had to ask me to leave, but he was just doing his job.

I'm pretty sure the calls came from some Joe Blow citizen doing their part to prevent terrorism :rolleyes:

[FlyingPhotog]

And the local constabulary will respond if their constituency makes the call.

The fact that you got the wink wink should have been enough to tell you that you were golden.

[FA_Productions]

I would say you ended up talking to an overzealous officer. As both a Commercial Airline Pilot and photographer there is really nothing you can photo about an airport or an aircraft that isn't alread on the web, sometimes from their own "Port" websites. I once was told I couldn't take pictures of a hotel I was staying at for the same reason...this in the middle of LA. They were afraid of terrorist targeting. Quality Inn in the middle of nowhere. Next time, show them your ID and ask for the specific law (section number) preventing you from doing this...be nice obviously but I'll bet they'll look at the ID and move on themselves.

No, he was pretty serious about it. He did ask who I was with, and I sad myself. He then started to say something about FAA regs and I then told him that I worked for the FAA. He then just asked me to leave.

[CanonKidXTI]

For plane spotters it is pretty common to get stopped. Usually the police will just take down your details and check you out a little bit. If your not rude or come off in the wrong way they usually let you stay put. Some airports have a deal cutout with plane spotters, if the spotters hear of something suspicous they report it to aiport officials.

[CorzyPhoto]

This is not only a problem at an airport for some people, but I get the same thing with shooting cars at malls (parking garages). I was rig shooting once before with a friend of mine in a parking garage and the employees of the mall thought my friend and I were going to beat them with my rig poles, so they called security. The funny thing is... security told us to wait until the employees are gone before shooting (since we explained what we were doing).. So we stood by and waited... next thing you know, a police officer pulls up behind us. The police officer was very sincere about telling us to leave. We told her that the security told us to just wait for the employees to go home. She then replied with: "The mall security told us that they told you guys to leave a couple times and refused to leave." Can't trust anyone nowadays...

[dgpilot]

So far no probs at SFO and San Jose..

[rrdjserv@earthlink.net]

I was approached by an officer with his hand on his gun. He wrote down all my driver's license info and told me to leave. I'm probably on the FBI terrorist list now. :-( This was in Lynchburg, VA.

[Jeff]

I think the answer ends up being the same for most of these types of threads. Be polite, explain, comply, & if you care to fight it, do it later.

[FA_Productions]

So far no probs at SFO and San Jose..

Great shot. I have never heard of Jet Airways.

[oomus]

I never have issues at airports but I am an employee for an airline which may give me an advantage.

Not too long ago I shot Air Force One from on the roof of the terminal.
Officer walked up checked my credentials and watched them take off while I clicked away....

Must have created some stir as they watched on camera as I opened up my black pelican case and started asembling my rig with the 100-400.

wasnt but a minute and the officer was up there too...

Employment has its perks...

[scfan]

Looks like the person in the 5th passenger window of the American Eagle plane is looking right at you.

[423894]

I went to take pictures of my car on top of a 7 floor parking garage downtown in my city and a security guard told me I couldnt have any of the buildings in the photos and looked at the pictures I had taken to make sure.

[FlyingPhotog]

I went to take pictures of my car on top of a 7 floor parking garage downtown in my city and a security guard told me I couldnt have any of the buildings in the photos and looked at the pictures I had taken to make sure.

Welcome to POTN...

As has been mentioned several times in other threads, your first problem is that the parking garage is more than likely private property and the owner has the right to prohibit photography on their property.

[JWright]

Once, military jets and personnelle made an emergency landing in a hercules at the local airport and I went out to get shots. Was told they would yank the camera by the airport staff if they caught me taking photos, as its illegal to take pictures of military personnelle's faces.

Horse pucky! If this was the case the military wouldn't allow cameras into any of the hundreds of airshows they put on every year...

Look here... http://johnwright.smugmug.com/Military/228637

I'm amazed at how much false information about when and where you can't take pictures is floating around out there, both among the authorities and photographers. For instance, everyone says it's illegal to take pictures of TSA security check points at airports, but the TSA themselves say it's not and the information is right on their web site for everyone to read.

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/taking_pictures.shtm

[HeathNC]

Never had any issues at RDU International. Been shooting out there at the observation deck for years. Never been approached, questioned, etc.

[ukpbz]

The UK is a bit easier as I think 'Spotters' are more common.

When I was last in the US I did get stopped at SJC for taking photos but it was ok after I explained.

[jdando]

Have you ever been stopped from shooting at the airport? ...Anybody else ever have problems?

I have not be stopped (prohibited) from shooting at an airport. I have been asked for ID and what I am doing, but I have not been told to stop shooting and move along.

I have shot at MSP, JFK, SEA, STC and Luke AFB.

I will echo others responds, when stopped, always be professional, courteous, and realize the officers are doing their job. I always have ID on me and try not to be in locations that un-safe or in violation of fence clearance laws.

[unmanedpilot]

Ive had a few instances, but mainly due to my location.

First was at Tucson Intl, I was told to move when I was on the south end of the airport. I was on the Airport side of the road near where the Ratheon fence met the airport fence. Raytheon security personnel came, took my details, asked what I was doing and just said I couldn't park on their side of the fence. The next time I was on the opposite side of the road, where they really didn't have any control, but they flashed their lights and siren. They didn't even get out of the car, so I just left. At least they let the plane that was landing fly past first!

Next incident was Tucson Intl. again, this time I was in the FAA parking lot (an Air Traffic Controller I know even said I could take photos there) and after about an hour of shooting I left. As I did an airport security officer drove past, I assume looking for me, but maybe not. I'm sure if I was polite it wouldn't have been an issue. I've yet been talked to by Tucson Intl security, and I've spent a good amount of time down there.

My last one was at Davis-Monthan AFB and I parked in a good spot for evening shots which happened to be next to a road. After a hour or more of spotting, military Security drove past. They were VERY polite, understood I wasn't doing anything wrong but were tired of the calls they were getting :P I just went down to a more secluded location after that and continued.

Its really all about where you choose to shoot along the airport. If its in high profile locations you can probably expect some officer to come by eventually. Though I spent some good time at Phoenix on top of the parking garage on terminal 4 and never once got talked to. Was right next to a camera too!

From my understanding, unless its posted that photography is prohibited, that there aren't any real laws against taking photos. The only real restrictions I've heard of is when you take photos of someone when they believe they are in private, such as in their own home, or in a bathroom, etc.. In a plane hitting minimums while landing at an international airport with 80+ other people on board is hardly private. IMO

[JWright]

I've shot inside the airport in San Diego while waiting for a flight and as recently as a week ago at Seattle/Tacoma (also while waiting for a flight) Neither time did I experience any problems with anyone in authority or get any funny looks from the rest of the traveling public.

On one leg of the flight I was trying to get some shots out the window of the plane as we landed and the flight attendant told me that although I should have put the camera away, it wasn't a problem (but not to tell the attendants on another flight that she said it was OK. :D)

[FlyingPhotog]

I've shot inside the airport in San Diego while waiting for a flight and as recently as a week ago at Seattle/Tacoma (also while waiting for a flight) Neither time did I experience any problems with anyone in authority or get any funny looks from the rest of the traveling public.

On one leg of the flight I was trying to get some shots out the window of the plane as we landed and the flight attendant told me that although I should have put the camera away, it wasn't a problem (but not to tell the attendants on another flight that she said it was OK. :D)

I had a FA tell me to turn off my camera last week because it was an "electronic device." That was a first. :rolleyes:

I didn't have the heart to tell him that the LCD panel that controlled the cabin lighting probably emitted more EMI than my camera...

[JWright]

I had a FA tell me to turn off my camera last week because it was an "electronic device." That was a first. :rolleyes:

I didn't have the heart to tell him that the LCD panel that controlled the cabin lighting probably emitted more EMI than my camera...

Yeah, and it says that in the safety instruction in the seat-back pockets too... It makes no sense to me either, but it's simpler just to go along with them.

On the next leg of the flight I was a bit more sly. I used my G5 and tucked it down between my leg and the cabin wall when the flight attendant came around to do the pre-landing check.

[Harm]

I'd say it is about being polite more than anything. I have gone around plenty of airports, and I ask the cops before I take any shots, inside and outside the airports. Inside an airport is harder as they do say "no, you're not supposed to, but we can turn a blind eye this time".

What makes this more plausible of it being politeness, is that all this post Sept. 11th stuff, I am tanned skin, travelling alone on business, you'd think they would lynch me first for wanting to take photos in and around airports. But a joke and a bit of banter first and they are fine with it....until you meet Mr Overzealous Cop who probably didn't get laid the night before and just flat out says "No" to everything. You're better off coming back another day when they are in better moods :)

[FlyingPhotog]

I'd say it is about being polite more than anything. I have gone around plenty of airports, and I ask the cops before I take any shots, inside and outside the airports. Inside an airport is harder as they do say "no, you're not supposed to, but we can turn a blind eye this time".

What makes this more plausible of it being politeness, is that all this post Sept. 11th stuff, I am tanned skin, travelling alone on business, you'd think they would lynch me first for wanting to take photos in and around airports. But a joke and a bit of banter first and they are fine with it....until you meet Mr Overzealous Cop who probably didn't get laid the night before and just flat out says "No" to everything. You're better off coming back another day when they are in better moods :)

That or else get him a hooker... :cool:

[Matt Taylor]

Never had an issue when shooting at PHX, LAS or LAX. Australia has never been a problem and I have only had minor issues at Auckland. Singapore and Phuket were very easy and Hong Kong was great.

In Europe Amsterdam and Zurich were an absolute dream to shoot, Manchester and Edinburgh were good as was Gatwick. Heathrow can sometimes be tricky but if you stick to the well known spots you should be fine.



Matt

[oomus]

I had a FA tell me to turn off my camera last week because it was an "electronic device." That was a first. :rolleyes:

I didn't have the heart to tell him that the LCD panel that controlled the cabin lighting probably emitted more EMI than my camera...

I got the same treatment leaving PHX for LAX once.....

[oomus]

I saw a ground crew in LAX tell people to put the cameras away on the ramp when we were transferring from the bus to Korean Air Lines going to Tokyo but I think it was because there was an Emerates plane in the gate next to us and they are inherently anal about security around their aircraft.

[Eksath]

I usually clear it with the local law enforcement and match my request with the current operational status i.e. I try to not make it extra work for them. Never really had a problem if they know who you are and where you are.

That said, I bring my own protection to keep the other photogs away from my spot though...:)

[DigitalSpecialist]

I have shot photos from Lambert St.Louis International at the now Boeing plant and never had any issues! But I will add, that I have also had my entire traveling Kit unpacked at security numerous times too!

[onel0126]

You can stand in the park adjacent to Reagan National and shoot all day...

I'm still shocked that Gravelly Point (which is the location I assume you are referring to above is open to the public). It is indeed a fantastic location for photographing jets. Just wish there were "bigger" jets to photograph there.....

[BAD SS]

I was detained at Hartsfield International Airport (ATL) tonight by Atlanta PD. A security guard instigated the first confrontation, after which I then asked to speak with a badged law enforcement officer. She walked away, about 100 yards, so I began to take a few pictures of her since I didn't catch her name, in case something were to happen to me or my camera.

Twenty minutes passed, and I had gotten all the pictures that I wanted, so I began walking to my car to leave. As I was exiting the parking deck an LEO stopped me with the security guard, asked me to get out of my car and for my license, and then put me in handcuffs. For the next two hours I sat in the police precinct inside the airport and was interviewed by the FBI, Homeland Security, Atlanta PD, and Airport Operations. Apparently, I needed a permit from Airport Operations/Homeland Security to take photographs. :rolleyes:

Luckily, I had "The Photographers Rights" on me and was released without any charges. LINK (http://www.krages.com/ThePhotographersRight.pdf)

A full police report will be available within five business days and I plan to contact the Atlanta Journal Constitution to see if they are interested in a story.

I was very polite and cooperative. The arresting officer actually happened to be an avid photographer and I gave him a link to the site... We'll see if he joins. :D

[tcphotodesign]

Have you ever been stopped from shooting at the airport? Last year, I stopped in a parking lot just outside of ATL to try out my new 100-400, and was almost arreasted by the ATL Police before I could even get one picture. I was off of airport property and was told that taking any pictures of aircraft and of the airport was illegal. I questions this and did get to go home, but I did follow up with the ATL Police, FAA and TSA and got the real answer that they did not want to deal with all of the calls about someone taking pictures of the airport.

Anybody else ever have problems?


First off, since when did being nice or not nice to a cop keep you from making our lives hell as photographers, last I knew it's not in the penal code. The law is the law. Cops are required to follow the law just like everyone else. I don't think it's in their code of conduct to make a person's life hell just because of taking a few photos. They should not base detaining you or arresting you on if someone is nice to them. Is that what our laws have come to, if your nice.
If I'm in the right I should be able to say what ever I want as long as I am within the law in doing so.

If you catch someone in a good mood or not should have nothing to do with it. That's like playing favorites, like high school. Laughable.

But anyway, I was looking for another catagory about business, to post a question.

Good luck!

[tcphotodesign]

I was detained at Hartsfield International Airport (ATL) tonight by Atlanta PD. A security guard instigated the first confrontation, after which I then asked to speak with a badged law enforcement officer. She walked away, about 100 yards, so I began to take a few pictures of her since I didn't catch her name, in case something were to happen to me or my camera.

Twenty minutes passed, and I had gotten all the pictures that I wanted, so I began walking to my car to leave. As I was exiting the parking deck an LEO stopped me with the security guard, asked me to get out of my car and for my license, and then put me in handcuffs. For the next two hours I sat in the police precinct inside the airport and was interviewed by the FBI, Homeland Security, Atlanta PD, and Airport Operations. Apparently, I needed a permit from Airport Operations/Homeland Security to take photographs. :rolleyes:

Luckily, I had "The Photographers Rights" on me and was released without any charges. LINK (http://www.krages.com/ThePhotographersRight.pdf)

A full police report will be available within five business days and I plan to contact the Atlanta Journal Constitution to see if they are interested in a story.

I was very polite and cooperative. The arresting officer actually happened to be an avid photographer and I gave him a link to the site... We'll see if he joins. :D


So, it sounds like it's based on the idea that they want to make our lives miserable for taking some pictures because other dumb, paranoid people driving by don't get the concept of photography. They only know about wedding photography and senior portraits. They have no clue about other forms of photography, so we have to pay for their ignorance and the cops who want to make our lives hell, because they can. Humm, sounds constitutional? not!

[Karizmatik]

I personally have never taken photos at airports in the USA / CAN or anywhere that isn't home for me, simply because I imagine being a foreigner would just make the matter worse lol.

But I have taken plenty of Photos in the Australian airports without incident. Even on the actual flight. The flight attendents have looked at me strangely, but that is about it. I just smile, nod and keep taking pictures -- I of course only do this well before take-off and after the seat-belt sign has been turned off. I havent had any hassles just yet.

I always carry a business card with me though, just in case. For some reason when people realise I actually take photos for a living, they ease up a little.

[Eksath]

I was detained at Hartsfield International Airport (ATL) tonight by Atlanta PD.

A full police report will be available within five business days and I plan to contact the Atlanta Journal Constitution to see if they are interested in a story.

I was very polite and cooperative. The arresting officer actually happened to be an avid photographer and I gave him a link to the site... We'll see if he joins. :D


Sorry to hear this happaned to you. Any updates?

[BAD SS]

Sorry to hear this happaned to you. Any updates?

I've been in Miami working since the day after I happened. I get back tomorrow but won't have the time to go to City Hall until Monday.

[Odie23]

First off, since when did being nice or not nice to a cop keep you from making our lives hell as photographers, last I knew it's not in the penal code. // They should not base detaining you or arresting you on if someone is nice to them. Is that what our laws have come to, if your nice.
If I'm in the right I should be able to say what ever I want as long as I am within the law in doing so.




Depends. If you are nice then you give them no real reason to arrest you. However, if you are a loudmouth jerk then you give them the option of arresting you and charging you with disorderly conduct (Even if you are right).

Odie