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Michael_Lambert
12th of January 2009 (Mon), 18:37
http://www.skywatchertelescope.net/swtinc/product.php?id=83&class1=1&class2=108

Been looking to get a telescope primary for shooting the moon and i can get this locally for a really good price.

Michael_Lambert
12th of January 2009 (Mon), 19:27
I got the model wrong.

THe store says its just released and can;t seem to find info online for it.. Its called the Sky watcher Black Diamond 127. Similar to that but with F12 1500mm focal length

screxer
12th of January 2009 (Mon), 20:19
Not quite the same....but very similar with almost the same specs (1500mm focal length f/12.1). I use this as one of my telescopes:

http://www.telescope.com/control/product/~category_id=overstock_sale/~product_id=09826

Bernoulli
12th of January 2009 (Mon), 20:20
I have this scope. Be advised that the full moon will not fit into the frame with a 1.6 crop camera such as 40D or 50D. It just barely misses. No problem with a full frame camera, you need to go to more than 2000 mm before it won't fit.

Here's a shot from November's full moon and it just barely misses fitting. If it's less than full you can usually turn the camera and get it all in but it's kind of a pain to have to worry about this.

Celestron
12th of January 2009 (Mon), 21:05
Heres what i found by googling Black Diamond 127mm (http://www.myastroshop.com.au/products/details.asp?id=MAS-211c) .

Michael_Lambert
12th of January 2009 (Mon), 21:13
Hum that price has to be wrong... lol I am being quoted 1/2 that for the tube assembly.. brand new shipped from Vancouver BC to my door :D

And the good thing is i will be using my 1D mark3 ( 1.3 crop) so compared to the 1.6 i should be good to go with getting the full moon in my shot :D

Michael_Lambert
27th of January 2009 (Tue), 19:22
Got my scope in, now i just need a evening that is clear to see what it can do.. untill then its a sexy looking paper weight :D

Celestron
27th of January 2009 (Tue), 20:35
Nice looking scope . Can it be used for terrestial also ?

Michael_Lambert
27th of January 2009 (Tue), 20:37
I assume so.. but i guess it would have to be at a good distance.

Is it common for the spotting scope ot be upside down?

Celestron
27th of January 2009 (Tue), 20:47
Not uncommon for an astronomical scope , thats the way they are . But you can buy a diagonal that turns everything back up right . I think it's called a Erecting Diagonal (http://www.astronomics.com/main/Image_Erecting_Prisms.asp/catalog_name/Astronomics/category_name/EDNECFUVSRWS8KLNTU5E38XSE1/Page/1) .

screxer
27th of January 2009 (Tue), 21:52
yes, that scope can be used for terrestrial....yes, it is common for the finder scope to be upside down (right side up finder scopes are very expensive and many companies don't carry them for that reason alone. People use it to center an object and could care less if it is upside down. I know I won't pay a premium for one that is right side up)

Michael_Lambert
28th of January 2009 (Wed), 05:56
The one thing i find nice about this one is that it's all aluminum. Has a very tough feel to it unlike some of the ones i was looking at that seemed to be made of cheap plastic.

Celestron
28th of January 2009 (Wed), 09:41
I assume so.. but i guess it would have to be at a good distance.

Is it common for the spotting scope ot be upside down?

Are you talking about your Finder Scope or the Telescope itself ?

Michael_Lambert
28th of January 2009 (Wed), 10:43
Are you talking about your Finder Scope or the Telescope itself ?


Sorry the telescope.

Some of the ones i seen at the local stores that where selling for a couple hundred dollars with a mount where i guess pvc.

txduggan
31st of January 2009 (Sat), 12:56
yes, that scope can be used for terrestrial....yes, it is common for the finder scope to be upside down (right side up finder scopes are very expensive and many companies don't carry them for that reason alone. People use it to center an object and could care less if it is upside down. I know I won't pay a premium for one that is right side up)


What do you consider "very expensive"?

I used the Orion RA/CI for a year or so and it didn't break my budget:

http://www.telescope.com/control/product/~category_id=finder_scopes/~pcategory=accessories/~product_id=A0564

-OR-

http://************/4zasxx

The 6x30 is ~$42 and the 9x50 is ~$66.

That's cheap, relatively speaking ;)

RA/CI finders normally suffer from image degradation based on their optical design/number of optical elements,, and I believe that's why you don't see them offered by distributors, as opposed to price.

Also, IMNSHO, it's a niche product; many astronomers get used to the "upside" down effect.

Just flip your star charts and shine your red light underneath them to match the orientation :-)~~~

-TomD

screxer
31st of January 2009 (Sat), 16:36
What do you consider "very expensive"?

I used the Orion RA/CI for a year or so and it didn't break my budget:

http://www.telescope.com/control/product/~category_id=finder_scopes/~pcategory=accessories/~product_id=A0564 (http://www.telescope.com/control/product/%7Ecategory_id=finder_scopes/%7Epcategory=accessories/%7Eproduct_id=A0564)

-OR-

http://************/4zasxx

The 6x30 is ~$42 and the 9x50 is ~$66.

That's cheap, relatively speaking ;)

RA/CI finders normally suffer from image degradation based on their optical design/number of optical elements,, and I believe that's why you don't see them offered by distributors, as opposed to price.

Also, IMNSHO, it's a niche product; many astronomers get used to the "upside" down effect.

Just flip your star charts and shine your red light underneath them to match the orientation :-)~~~

-TomD

haha! wow, I forgot about that 9x50....pretty sad since I used to work for them and own that finder. Anyways, comparitively, the pricing is still a bit more than a normal upside down finder scope. A normal 6x30 finder sells for under $30, whereas a correct-image 6x30 sells for just over $40. Yes, in the world of photography, that isn't much at all....but I did find that with most customers in the Astronomy arena, that was a big determining factor in something that serves no purpose other than to center on an object (and I know from working in the industry that this was a very big reason why correct image finders are rarely if ever found as a standard item on a telescope....it keeps the price to the customer lower). They'd rather save that money and put it towards a better eyepiece or filters. BTW....I noticed someone recommending an erecting diagonal for the upside down finder scope....based on the finder scope in the picture, that is NOT an option. The diagonal would be used on the main telescope and based on the picture, the scope already has one. It may be mirror reversed, but it should be right side up in the telescope itself.

screxer
31st of January 2009 (Sat), 16:37
I also just noticed that the rubber O-ring for the finder scope is wrapped around the white metal finder scope bracket. That O-ring needs to be wrapped around the finder scope tube. There will probably be a groove on the finder scope it corresponds to. Then you slide the finder scope into the bracket and push it in to the point that the O-ring supports the front of the scope. Without that O-ring, you will have a hard time getting the finder scope to be accurate.

xtrematrix
3rd of February 2009 (Tue), 09:21
Nice setup Michael