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Tom Reid
22nd of January 2009 (Thu), 11:20
Well panic set in early last evening while setting up for a grad portrait. My studio setup has been three Opus M100 lights (main, hair and background) and my Canon 580 as a fill light set up off camera using the Canon cord. I recently purchased the Canon Speedlight Transmitter to use at remote shoots for sports using two 580's. I thought to give her a try with the studio setup using the transmitter to fire the 580 which in turn would fire the Opus lights. Opus says their light will fire wireless using its photocell, which is triggered by another flash source.

So, last evening I set up all my lights and popped on the transmitter and took a couple of test shots only to discover the background had a big black shadow from the 580 fill light and I just couldn't hit the exposure right, even with using a light meter. It was like the only light source was from the 580 fill light. The Opus lights fired but it was obvious the camera didn’t capture it. There is obviously a delay in the Opus lights firing and the camera capturing the image. To look at the image one would guess the Opus lights didn’t fire but they did. After an hour of fiddling and questioning my intelligence level I gave up and went back to the old setup of using the off camera cord for the 580 and voila, the picture was perfect capturing all light sources including the background light.

As an experiment I removed the Canon transmitter from the camera and turned on only one Opus light. I hit the pilot button on the transmitter and it fired the Opus. It will fire it if pointing towards the Opus and the same if pointing away. I changed the channel on the transmitter with the same results. Next I cranked up all the Opus lights and popped the transmitter on the camera. I used my light meter to determine the correct exposure and without using the 580 fill light I took a photo and the Opus lights fired off however the image was grossly underexposed, again as if the lights didn’t fire off.

Is there anyone out there with a similar setup who can help? Oh, and BTW, purchasing another make of wireless transmitter is not an option. Simply trying to make what I have work. If there's no solution out there then I'll have to stick to the wire. I’ve gone through the custom settings in my 40D and for the life of me cannot see a solution.

Jim M
22nd of January 2009 (Thu), 19:58
The studio strobes are probably firing early due to the infra red or near infra red communications signals given by the ST-E2 before firing the Canon flash. The Opus lights are probably seeing that pre-flash signal that you can't see. I'm sure there have been threads on this, but I can't remember if the issue can be resolved. Try a search.

hooday
22nd of January 2009 (Thu), 21:15
What mode is your EX 580 in? If you are using the ETTL setting then Jim is right that a pre-flash strobe fires to determine the distance and exposure settings to fire the correct concentration of light. In this mode the Opus flashes will pre-maturely fire off. In manual mode the flash fires regardless of your camera settings. You control the flash output manually by zoom distance and ratio 1:1 or 1:2 up to whatever power you want. This way when the flash fires the opus fire when sensing the 580 EX flash.

That being said when using multiple 580Ex's in combination with a camera/flash unit, the camera flash is set to ETTL and set on master mode. The other flashes are set to slave mode and the settings you you input to the camera are automatically transmitted to the slaves wirelessly. The master unit settings are as follows. press the zoom button for at least 2 seconds until the off button flashes. Then turn the dial until the master blinks and press the set button. Now the flash is set as the master. Set the others to ETTL and slaves. Make sure the flashes are all on the same channel.

These are the only things I can think of. Give it a try and see what happens. Let me know if this works. Good luck!!!!

Curtis N
22nd of January 2009 (Thu), 21:28
Jim is right. The ST-E2 fires a command flash just before the shutter opens. It's infrared, but slave sensors will detect it.

A PC cord or radio transmitter to fire the 580EX will be required if you want to incorporate it into a studio strobe setup.

Tom Reid
23rd of January 2009 (Fri), 07:57
What mode is your EX 580 in? If you are using the ETTL setting then Jim is right that a pre-flash strobe fires to determine the distance and exposure settings to fire the correct concentration of light. In this mode the Opus flashes will pre-maturely fire off. In manual mode the flash fires regardless of your camera settings. You control the flash output manually by zoom distance and ratio 1:1 or 1:2 up to whatever power you want. This way when the flash fires the opus fire when sensing the 580 EX flash.

The 580 is set as a slave and in manual mode with the output controlled. Only using one 580 in the studio.

Jim and Curtis...that's what I thought I was gonna hear!! I guess my best option right now is to buy a generic off camera shoe adapter and go the PC cord route.

Thanks folks.

hooday
23rd of January 2009 (Fri), 09:05
Tom,

Check out the website www.flashzebra.com. Lon has great generic gear for all remote flash problems. He will have what you need. E-mail him your situation and he always comes up with solutions that are very, very reasonable. Tell him Benjamin from Cleveland sent you.

Tom Reid
23rd of January 2009 (Fri), 09:13
Thanks Benjamin. I'll check that out.