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rgrebby
28th of January 2009 (Wed), 19:07
Im using a new monitor (dell 24") and how no clue if images are displaying correctly. They look fine to me but feedback is very welcome.



http://www.richardgrebby.co.uk/pictures/nature/nature-20.jpg

http://www.richardgrebby.co.uk/pictures/nature/nature-21.jpg

http://www.richardgrebby.co.uk/pictures/nature/nature-22.jpg

http://www.richardgrebby.co.uk/pictures/nature/nature-23.jpg

http://www.richardgrebby.co.uk/pictures/nature/nature-24.jpg

http://www.richardgrebby.co.uk/pictures/nature/nature-25.jpg

http://www.richardgrebby.co.uk/pictures/nature/nature-27.jpg

http://www.richardgrebby.co.uk/pictures/nature/nature-28.jpg

DStanic
28th of January 2009 (Wed), 19:36
They do look a bit dark, hard to see details in the shadows. Most LCDs are too bright by default, huge difference once I calibrated mine with Spyder2 express.

PhotosGuy
28th of January 2009 (Wed), 19:36
I can see detail in the shadow side of the rhino, so it looks OK to me in in color managed Firefox3. It's too dark in IE.

JeffreyG
28th of January 2009 (Wed), 19:44
They are dark.

asty80
28th of January 2009 (Wed), 21:53
They all do look a bit dark...

Wilt
29th of January 2009 (Thu), 00:01
Dark. Go to dpreview.com and look at one of the camera tests (e.g. Canon 5D2)...at the bottom of the first page they show a grayscale step wedge and tell you to adjust your monitor to view almost the entire grayscale and also be able to discern one step from another. That puts you not only 'in the ballpark' but very close.

Perry Ge
29th of January 2009 (Thu), 02:13
Yeah dark. And oh man, I could recognize that 70-300 IS bokeh from a mile away :lol:.

srsuser
29th of January 2009 (Thu), 02:23
slightly underexposed.

René Damkot
29th of January 2009 (Thu), 03:38
Yep, dark.

SkipD
29th of January 2009 (Thu), 06:10
I agree with the underexposed analysis.

You really need to use a calibrated monitor. When a monitor is properly calibrated, it is calibrated both for brightness range and color.

Wilt
29th of January 2009 (Thu), 08:44
For sake of emphasis about what you can do very rapidly...
Go to dpreview.com and look at one of the camera tests (e.g. Canon 5D2)...at the bottom of the first page they show a grayscale step wedge and tell you to adjust your monitor to view almost the entire grayscale and also be able to discern one step from another. That puts you not only 'in the ballpark' but very close.

Hermeto
29th of January 2009 (Thu), 08:51
http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/common/grayscale.gif

Wilt
29th of January 2009 (Thu), 09:02
Hermeto's step wedge seems to be reproducing more darkly than the one on dpreview.com
(I just checked side by side.) But it is merely that the one on dpreview is on a midtone background and his is on a white background...optical illusion!

borism
29th of January 2009 (Thu), 09:03
Dark to me

jrm27
29th of January 2009 (Thu), 10:16
Is that the DEll 2408wfp? I have the 2208wfp and am strugglign with how bright a screen it is!

snowyowl13
29th of January 2009 (Thu), 10:32
Hermeto's step wedge seems to be reproducing more darkly than the one on dpreview.com
(I just checked side by side.) But it is merely that the one on dpreview is on a midtone background and his is on a white background...optical illusion!
On the dpreview wedge, I can easily see from C to Z so i guess i must be in the ballpark at least. Nice reassurance.

blissonearth
29th of January 2009 (Thu), 10:33
they're a bit dark especially #4.

Wilt
29th of January 2009 (Thu), 10:49
On the dpreview wedge, I can easily see from C to Z so i guess i must be in the ballpark at least. Nice reassurance.

That is indicating your monitor is turned up too bright! which explains why your photos are too dark.

SamClarkPhotography
29th of January 2009 (Thu), 10:51
Dark

rgrebby
29th of January 2009 (Thu), 15:46
Is that the DEll 2408wfp? I have the 2208wfp and am strugglign with how bright a screen it is!


Yes it is this monitor.
I'll have a look at the Dpreview site. As for the lens, all these were taken with the Sigma 70-300 APO lens not my new Canon 70-300 IS :)

Looking at that graph of greyscale, I can see all the different shades anyway.

brightness is 35
contrast 50

Wilt
29th of January 2009 (Thu), 15:53
Yes it is this monitor.
I'll have a look at the Dpreview site. As for the lens, all these were taken with the Sigma 70-300 APO lens not my new Canon 70-300 IS :)

Looking at that graph of greyscale, I can see all the different shades anyway.

brightness is 35
contrast 50

dpreview instructions, "Dpreview use calibrated monitors at the PC normal gamma 2.2, this means that on our monitors we can make out the difference between all of the grayscale blocks below. We recommend to make the most of this review you should be able to see the difference (at least) between X,Y and Z and ideally also A, B and C."

PhotosGuy
30th of January 2009 (Fri), 08:59
(I just checked side by side.) But it is merely that the one on dpreview is on a midtone background and his is on a white background...optical illusion! Good point. That is why I don't use a white mat for prints. Take a look at POST #30 near the bottom: The gray bar at the center is the same density all the way across.
A few Car Lighting Tips (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=70290)

And, people should state what browser they're using to evaluate the scale. My post above: I can see detail in the shadow side of the rhino, so it looks OK to me in in color managed Firefox3. It's too dark in IE.

HappySnapper90
31st of January 2009 (Sat), 15:55
Yes it is this monitor.
I'll have a look at the Dpreview site. As for the lens, all these were taken with the Sigma 70-300 APO lens not my new Canon 70-300 IS :)

Looking at that graph of greyscale, I can see all the different shades anyway.

brightness is 35
contrast 50
Is your monitor calibrated? Probably not. It'll be a big help since monitors are generally set to be higher in brightness and contrast as default settings because the average computer user likes that "look".

And you should be minding the image histogram. Learning it and using it as a big judge of image exposure/brightness will guide you alot. Some of your posted photos are at least 1.5 stops under exposed.

You should also be checking your histogram while taking the pictures to help you properly record as much light as possible.

SaraEmily
4th of February 2009 (Wed), 19:35
I do like slightly under/over exposed images, they can have almost a surreal feel to them. Some of your shots look cool the way they are, but for the most part they do need more light to them.

purd002
5th of February 2009 (Thu), 07:00
close, but a little too dark for me