60D......... when?

[Vendee]

Well I'm ready to upgrade my body and with my current lens line up, its obviously got to be another Canon. I'd really love a 5D mk2 and could probably save enough to afford one but I'm a hobby photographer and I think the 5D mk2 would be too much camera for my needs. I'd settle for an original 5D but they are getting harder to find and the prices here in the UK are still quite high.

Now we come to the 40D and 50D. The 40D is nice enough but I'd like something with 12MP because a lot of Stock Libraries insist on 12MP as a minimum. The 50D has some great features that I'd love, especially the LCD and the microfocus adjustment but the high ISO issues are putting me off.

So now to the question:- When can we expect the 60D? I know that the 50D hasn't been out all that long but does anyone think that Canon might roll out the 60D sooner than originally planned because the 50D hasn't been a resounding success? Also, do you think Canon will have the balls to drop the megapixel count on the 60D to something more reasonable to achieve good IQ and high ISO performance.

This is a genuine question and its not my intention to criticise the 40D and 50D (or their owners) :cool:

[BrettRio]

Haha.. doesn't Canon have the 18 month time period between xxD bodies or something?
I'm guessing somewhere around August-October. Don't quote me on that

[borism]

With a grain of salt

http://www.canonrumors.com/category/photography/canon-60d/

[jwcdds]

You'll never see them going backwards in the MP count. I think the 60D will (hopefully) use a more refined 15mp sensor to achieve lower noise than the 50D currently has but they'll never go the other way. That would be like admitting they screwed up and surrendering.

With this economy, there's little chance that they'd speed up the release cycle. At best, you can hope that they moved it from a 18-month (previous cycle) to the new 12-month (40d-50d interval). If such is the case, the earliest you can expect something would be end of summer.

In other words. Don't hold your breath. Get the 50D now and noise ninja the noise.

[sporadic]

People are blowing the noise thing way out of proportion imo. I'd go for the 50D.

[kauffman v36]

id say get the 40d, prices are ridiculously low now, minus ur MP dilemma

[nphsbuckeye]

Even the 40D has pretty good noise control - better than most cameras out there. It's more important to get good exposure anyhow.

[borism]

People are blowing the noise thing way out of proportion imo. I'd go for the 50D.

I agree
I think the noise thing is a byproduct of over hipped expectations from a new model.
The 50D is a great camera

[doctorgonzo]

The 50D is a great camera

The 50D is a great camera; the issue seems to be whether it is so much greater than the 40D that it justifies the price differential.

Not happy to hear about having chipped batteries in the 60D/7D. Come on, Canon, give us a little credit here.

[BrettRio]

With this economy, there's little chance that they'd speed up the release cycle. At best, you can hope that they moved it from a 18-month (previous cycle) to the new 12-month (40d-50d interval). If such is the case, the earliest you can expect something would be end of summer.

In other words. Don't hold your breath. Get the 50D now and noise ninja the noise.
Just wondering, the 40D would most likely be discontinued by then correct?

[nureality]

I think the people over at the rumor mills have to stop sniffin' payote and just get outside more. If you believe that Canon has moved to a 12-month product cycle for DSLR's of ANY CLASS, you're nuts. The early release of the 50D doesn't "cement" anything (to ridicule canonrumours choice of words). Also, given the state of the world economy, they will likely leave the 50D on the shelves LONGER than 18-months, I wouldn't be surprised to see the 60D only show up at Photokina 2010. The economy is bad, everywhere, people are not spending on big ticket items... all of 2009 will be bad, most of 2010 also by all accounts. Any release slated for the next 12 months is gonna get pushed back to a date that it has a chance at actually putting up some numbers.

Seriously, if you think the Canon 50D, Canon Rebel XSi and Nikon D90 sales figures are bad, realize that if they had been released now (February 2009), they would be worse by 50%. It seems the only segments of the camera market less affected by the slowdown are (not surprisingly) the professional market... the 5D mk2's and the D700's are still hot items - because Pro's pay for their tools to make a living. The enthusiast photog has to consider other bills before the hobby. Hence slow sales in the 50D, XSi, and D90s. There is also the factor of market saturation - people are still happy with their 40D's of a year back and 20D/30D's of the last 5 years. Canon knows that if it bombards the DSLR market with product in rapid-fire fashion (i.e. 12-month cycles) they will get ever-diminishing sales figures. Its not the same as in the P&S market where you can buy a camera for $150 today, and in 6 months replace it with another $150 model which is much better.

The 50D is a great camera, go get it now, don't wait for a 60D that is going to rolling out half-way thru the Obama fallacy, I mean presidency.

-Alan

[Collin85]

So now to the question:- When can we expect the 60D?

Not for another year atleast.

Also, do you think Canon will have the balls to drop the megapixel count on the 60D to something more reasonable to achieve good IQ and high ISO performance.

Nope.

What do you mean 'good IQ and high ISO performance'? The 50D already has it. Many people who don't own the camera are getting so bogged down by the high-ISO noise reports that they've almost forgotten the all-important point: The 50D is still a great camera. It takes great pictures under the right hands and the high-ISO performance is nothing bad. I've posted countless photos from the camera being used "in the real-world" and I've been extremely happy with it. Buy it and be happy. Don't nitpick about technical facts which are so insignificant compared to the photographer's ability.

[Lore]

Well I'm ready to upgrade my body and with my current lens line up, its obviously got to be another Canon. I'd really love a 5D mk2 and could probably save enough to afford one but I'm a hobby photographer and I think the 5D mk2 would be too much camera for my needs. I'd settle for an original 5D but they are getting harder to find and the prices here in the UK are still quite high.

:cool:

Just add a 70-200 f4 L IS ( or 2.8 if you 'really' want to ) to that glass you have there & sit on your hands on money and get yourself the 7D in the fall or Christmas time when 'sales' hit & you'll be happy.

Till' then get out there and shoot with what you have ;) You've got some great shots in that gallery of yours :)

[Oteck]

I don't see the new 60D comming around this year but i expect a new rebel body to come out though with HD video... Might buy for my folks if it does have it

[silvex]

Just wondering, the 40D would most likely be discontinued by then correct?


I think it is *already* dicontinued.

[KenjiS]

Eh I'm saying I'll wait for the next one..I expect more evolution than revolution with it though...I think the rumor is basically what i expect from a new 60D..

It WOULD be great to have it called the EOS-7D, and then the new 5D be the EOS-3D

As the guy said, its confusing as hell out there between Canon and Nikon for most consumers, Canon should go back to its Rebel consumer, 7-series of prosumer, 3-series of semi-pro ["light duty professional"] and 1-series as the bona-fide professional market naming scheme for its future models

I also expect the 1 series to merge at this point, with the 1D being full frame with a 1.3x high speed crop mode

As of right now I dont have the money and probably wouldn't till Christmas, I want more glass too... [I want a total of 4 lenses before i go for a new body, or maybe ill save the cash and get a lens and a new body at the same time] plus id love to be one of the first users of the next one :D

But if i went right now..itd be a difficult choice but id probubly get a 50D...

[gjl711]

... If you believe that Canon has moved to a 12-month product cycle for DSLR's of ANY CLASS, you're nuts. The early release of the 50D doesn't "cement" anything (to ridicule canonrumours choice of words). ... I too double that the 50D release signified a 1 year cycle and more think that it was Canon trying to answer Nikon's challenge. If you think back a few months on this very forum, the Nikon 300D was killing the 40D and many Canon users got fed up and jumped ship. I think that the 50D was what the 40D should have been and it offered enough so that the 300D doesn't look all that good anymore.

So given the state of sales, the economy in general, and the cost associated with launching a new camera, Canon is likely to slow the pace a bit and recoup some of the R&D $$ it has put into the 50D.

At least thats what I am hopeing for. Canon had taken great strides improving the feature set of all their cameras but one area has not improved all that much, IQ. Comparing a picture taken from a XT and the new 5D and discounting the extreams, there is not all that much differance. ISO 400 and below performance is so close that most users would not be able to pick out one pic over another. Canon needs a new sensor technology to recapture the IQ lead. Another 1-stop improvement isn't going to excite all that many folks. Maybe a black silicon sensor, or a foveon type sensor, something that pushes the envelope way out there. A ISO 25000 as clean as ISO 400 would be exciting. ISO 25000 that looks like a sand painting is just a gimic.

[emzet]

I think it is *already* dicontinued.

Nope.
Canon still has it in their lineup

[silvex]

Nope.
Canon still has it in their lineup

They *might* have it on the list just to get rid of the stock. Just like some stores. They do that with all models. They had the 30D for a while.

[gjl711]

They *might* have it on the list just to get rid of the stock. Just like some stores. They do that with all models. They had the 30D for a while.Yea, I doubt that they are manufacturing wither the 5D or the 40D anymore and are just trying to move existing stock.