Netbook Surprise - Anybody Else Seen this?

[johngalt_ny]

With the size and power of the most recent series of netbooks, I wondered why anybody would spend $700.00 for a P2000 etc. Now I see a possible reason.

I recently bought a Lenovo 10" (1MB and 160GB) and an Acer AspireOne 8.9" (1MB and 120GB). Both have the Atom processor and a card reader installed. Both fit in the outside pocket of my camera bag.

HOWEVER, when I tried to install DPP and Zoom Browser, I got a message saying the screen resolution (maxed out) was insufficient to support the software. That would mean I couldn't shoot RAW (or at least review the RAW shots) which would make the netbook pretty much useless for photography. Luckily, both will run Lightroom2 so I was saved on that score.

Has anyone else run into this on a netbook? Anyone know a workaround?

Aside from the slim possibility of confiscation by TSA, this would be the only thing to stop a photographer from taking a full fledged computer with him/her rather than the P2000.

[gravity]

For a Lenovo S10, I was told that if you change the screen setting to the biggest size ( 1280 x 768 )? it can fool DPP and the program will let you install it. Never tried it myself though.

I also have the S10, the DPP wouldn't install so I put in ACDSee Pro2 into it instead. The program is able to display CR2 file and RAW editing so I'm all good :)

[ben_r_]

Yea many people have had that problem already with the Canon software and theres no work around as far as I have read...

[Andrushka]

Aside from the slim possibility of confiscation by TSA, this would be the only thing to stop a photographer from taking a full fledged computer with him/her rather than the P2000.

why would the TSA confiscate a laptop? i've been on multiple flights in the last couple weeks and i had my laptop as a carry on with me on every one of them...

[dfatty]

I read about the DPP resolution issue when checking out netbooks a few months ago. Afaik there's one netbook with adequate native resolution, the HP 2133. I don't believe it's currently being made but you can find them new on ebay for pretty cheap. It's a nice little machine that's very well made (alumimum shell) and has a huge keyboard for a netbook. It also has a beautiful display and it runs DPP fine. There's some discussion on the net about it running too hot and frying itself, but I've never had a problem with it, knock on wood. Knock on wood, again, lol.

[DarthMTS47]

I use FastStone Image viewer on my Eee PC. It works well to be able to view RAW files - along with some minor editing features. And it isn't a space hog like LR2.

-Mike

[gravity]

For a Lenovo S10, I was told that if you change the screen setting to the biggest size ( 1280 x 768 )? it can fool DPP and the program will let you install it. Never tried it myself though.

I also have the S10, the DPP wouldn't install so I put in ACDSee Pro2 into it instead. The program is able to display CR2 file and RAW editing so I'm all good :)



OK, I've decided what the hell, I'll give it a try. Just took out my S10, changed the screen resolution to 1280 x 768 and what do you know, I was able to install DPP and the rest! whoo hoo!!~~~~~ :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

The program works fine too. The only catch is that with that 1280 x 768 resolution you'll have to move the screen around (try it and you'll know what I mean), but over all I'm ok with it though.

So in conclusion, for a netbook (at least the Lenovo S10 anyway) I would like to confirm that DPP can be installed and run. ;) BUT, if you move the resolution back to 1024 x 600 the program WON'T RUN. Basically each time you wanna run the program you'll have to change your screen setting to 1280 x 768.

[dfatty]

Congrats, good job.

[johngalt_ny]

Congrats gravity.

My Lenovo is maxed out at 1240 x 680 so that ain't heppening here. I'm ok with LR2.

[gravity]

Thank you sirs :D

[Jon]

It also runs fine when you've hooked up an external monitor of 1024x768 or larger. I've stayed in some hotels recently where there was a VGA in port on the TV. That's my solution for the Acer Aspire One (1024x600 screen); the Libretto's 7" screen does 1280x768 so has never been a problem (and has the scrolling option on top of that, for a virtual 1280x1024).

[ascdesigns]

I also have an Acer Aspire One and ran into the same 600 vertical res issue. There's a free app with a very small footprint called AsTray that allows me to run at a 1024x768 resolution. It does squish the screen a little bit, but for general use it's fine and allows me to install and use DPP and Photoshop Elements.

Here's the link to the wiki: http://wiki.eeeuser.com/astrayplus

Thanks,

Al

[TeamSpeed]

I loaded Zoombrowser/Eos Utility on mine, and then Gimp. The Acer handles it okay, I was remote controlling my camera with my netbook and then I can edit later.

[dave_bass5]

Ive got a Asus Eee PC901, same CPU and screen res as the Acer Aspire one .
As others have said, you can install DPP by making the screen larger but i now use LR 2.3rc for edits and Faststone for general viewing. It handles RAW files fine.
While LR2 is a bit slow i prefer not to have to change my workflow if im using my Netbook but to be honest, its not something i would do every day anyway.
I have managed to calibrate the screen with my Spyder2 as well.

Im off to Disney for two weeks on Sunday and ill be taking my 40D and netbook and hope to be able to upload my shots every few days to Smugmug.
I might even use Picasa as thats very easy to upload from and runs pretty well.

All in all im pretty impressed with the Netbook spec and while its not a fully fledged PC it does all i need. Oh, and it runs Windows 7 just as well as XP.

[SuzyView]

I just bought the $27 2 gb RAM for my ASUS 1000HA. Has anyone done that yet?

[Jon]

I also have an Acer Aspire One and ran into the same 600 vertical res issue. There's a free app with a very small footprint called AsTray that allows me to run at a 1024x768 resolution. It does squish the screen a little bit, but for general use it's fine and allows me to install and use DPP and Photoshop Elements.

Here's the link to the wiki: http://wiki.eeeuser.com/astrayplus

Thanks,

AlNot getting a response when I try to register to get the download . . . Are they really slow responding?

[SnlpeR]

2gb 1002HA here
check your manual before you install the stick tho..

i think i had to turn off my quick boot up option in the bios before i installed the ram

[Jon]

why would the TSA confiscate a laptop? i've been on multiple flights in the last couple weeks and i had my laptop as a carry on with me on every one of them...They've decided that they have the right to seize any electronic device that may be carrying information on a terrorist plot and thoroughly analyze it. You may get it back intact. Applies to USB drives, external HDDs and the like as well as laptops.

[SuzyView]

Hey, Jon. You want to help me install that RAM? I'm completely stupid lately. But I did get the plug in for my PSE6 for my new cam today. Talk about being brave! :) I was so nervous.

[Jon]

Could do. I've got nothing on my agenda rest of the weekend . . . And I managed to keep from blowing my SanDisk rebate cards at Penn Camera today (plus keeping out of Micro Center altogether, even though I need a 3+ port USB-type KVM).

[SuzyView]

Oh, I haven't gotten the RAM module yet. It is coming Monday.

We are meeting on Feb. 14 at the Fair Oaks Mall, though.

[Jon]

Gonna be in Pennsylvania then - delayed Christmas . . . Got a long weekend the following weekend though. We can try to outdo each other with our acquisition lists while we're at it. :{)#

[SuzyView]

We can try. :)

[nadtz]

Little niggles like that have kept me with ultralights over netbooks for the time being. That and trackpoint. Damn you thinkpads for making touchpads unusable, damn you! /me drools a bit and eyes a thinkpad x61.

[SuzyView]

Little niggles like that have kept me with ultralights over netbooks for the time being. That and trackpoint. Damn you thinkpads for making touchpads unusable, damn you! /me drools a bit and eyes a thinkpad x61.

Yes, this is why Logitech sells their wireless mice by the millions in the US. People hate the touchpads.

[Familiaphoto]

Touchpads evil.

[Wilt]

Little niggles like that have kept me with ultralights over netbooks for the time being. That and trackpoint. Damn you thinkpads for making touchpads unusable, damn you! /me drools a bit and eyes a thinkpad x61.

While I despise touchpads over the IBM trackpoint, using a wireless mouse is even nicer! I have a MoGo mouse which conveniently stores in the PC Card slot and gets a recharge while parked there.

[dave_bass5]

I just bought the $27 2 gb RAM for my ASUS 1000HA. Has anyone done that yet?

Yes, i have 2GB in my 901.
Cant say its made a huge difference speed wise but im sure something will make use of it.
I have the page file turned off and am using Ramdisc and it all runs very smoothly.
Going for a Runcore 32GB SSD in a few weeks time. I didnt plan on using my 901 much when i first got it but im finding im using it almost every day now.

[SuzyView]

Thanks, Dave. I don't expect it will make a huge difference, I just didn't want to crash. I have the 5DII.

[ed rader]

With the size and power of the most recent series of netbooks, I wondered why anybody would spend $700.00 for a P2000 etc. Now I see a possible reason.

I recently bought a Lenovo 10" (1MB and 160GB) and an Acer AspireOne 8.9" (1MB and 120GB). Both have the Atom processor and a card reader installed. Both fit in the outside pocket of my camera bag.

HOWEVER, when I tried to install DPP and Zoom Browser, I got a message saying the screen resolution (maxed out) was insufficient to support the software. That would mean I couldn't shoot RAW (or at least review the RAW shots) which would make the netbook pretty much useless for photography. Luckily, both will run Lightroom2 so I was saved on that score.

Has anyone else run into this on a netbook? Anyone know a workaround?

Aside from the slim possibility of confiscation by TSA, this would be the only thing to stop a photographer from taking a full fledged computer with him/her rather than the P2000.

i just got the HP mini tonight and i installed irfanview which opens raw files and allows you to do minor editing.

when i get back this weekend i'll install LR2. the only editing i'd do on a laptop are quick and dirties to post on the net while i'm on the road.

ed rader

[troypiggo]

I have an Acer Aspire One. I can run EOS Utility, but had the same screen resolution message for DPP because max vert resolution is 600px. My workaround was to install GIMP and UFRAW, and am going to install Irfanview next. RawTherapee runs too, but some of the menu buttons are a little squished.

[SuzyView]

It took me 30 seconds to install the 2GB RAM. Went to the F2 BIOS setting and saved. It was a breeze. No real noticeable difference, but I am going to download Infanview later today.

[dave_bass5]

well at the moment im on holiday in Florida. Taken around 560 pics so far (in inly 4 days). Last night i loaded them all on my 901 and it took quite a while. The USB2 ports dont seem to be a fast as on my PC but its no big deal.
I tried to edit a few and upload them too smugmug in LR2 and it was working ok but it was going to take quite a while. I switched to Picasa 3 and it was much quicker. Im only uploading them to a Picasa gallery so friends can see them back in the UK, ill edit them properly once i get back.
Only problem i have is the although i have calibrated my screen with Spyder2 its still not accurate so im sure these shots wont look that good. Ill see when i get back.

I also managed to watch 3 films on the plane on it as well.

[nadtz]

While I despise touchpads over the IBM trackpoint, using a wireless mouse is even nicer! I have a MoGo mouse which conveniently stores in the PC Card slot and gets a recharge while parked there.

My inner geek is showing, I use a mouse as little as possible most of the time, touchpoint = heavenly for 99% of my work. My coworkers are always confused when I sit down to fix something at their computers and don't touch the mouse. "How did you do that?", "IT guy magic!" then I stroll nonchalantly away.

A wireless mouse also means one more thing to carry and more battery waste, less is more for my daily carry bag =)

[Wilt]

My inner geek is showing, I use a mouse as little as possible most of the time, touchpoint = heavenly for 99% of my work. My coworkers are always confused when I sit down to fix something at their computers and don't touch the mouse. "How did you do that?", "IT guy magic!" then I stroll nonchalantly away.

A wireless mouse also means one more thing to carry and more battery waste, less is more for my daily carry bag =)


When it is in the PC card slot of the computer, it is one LESS thing to carry! I can imagine, where you go to the computer rather than bringing it with you, it is one more thing to carry (than your cell phone/Blackberry/iPhone).

[nadtz]

true, but that's not how I use my laptop. I'm not saying everyone should work that way by any means, most of the people in my office carry a USB or wireless mouse with them. I do own one of the MS wireless deals, I just never carry/use it.

One thing netbooks have over your typical laptop is battery life. The X61 I'm looking at gets 5-6 hours battery life if I recall correctly with the extended battery, a netbook with the same battery power would get like 9. For something light to travel with, I'm considering an x200 (darn you addictive trackpoint!)

[foxbat]

i just got the HP mini tonight and i installed irfanview which opens raw files and allows you to do minor editing.Is that the 2133? How do you find the performance and which OS do you use? Everything about this netbook looks great but the online reviews point to performance problems with the VIA CPU.