Nikon ups the ante - D400 with 24mp and touchscreen LCD

[Picture North Carolina]

... and so continues the megapixel wars.

Heck, I've got a great idea. Let's just drop all the features and create a giant, 5 pound sensor we all hold in our hands.

http://www.slashgear.com/nikon-d400-prediction-gone-mad-24mp-with-touchscreen-lcd-0633328/

[gjl711]

I'm waiting for 100mp and a full 24" wide screen rear display with build in Blu-ray. :)

[jacobsen1]

rumors and news go in their own section yes? Especially nikon rumors?

[AlphaChicken]

rumors and news go in their own section yes? Especially nikon rumors?

+1 who cares...

[drdiesel1]

I like how Nikon has partnered with Sony to Supply/Build all the FF sensors...:lol: Nikon has Sony build to Nikon specs for some small changes between the FF bodies...:rolleyes:

[Lazuka]

Let me know when nikon gets an 85L, then i'll start paying attention ;)

[ejicon]

Nikon who? Just kidding. Interesting speculations

[Jimmer411]

Touch screen? Seriously? Who even uses the backscreen other than to review images or check settings (xxxD series)?

[ozziepuppy]

Touch Screen = Icky. :p

[Geoff_Shawcross]

.......OK, one question. How do they get around your "nose" playing touch with the touch screen while your trying to take a picture? Wonder if they thought of that one.....hehe.

[cdifoto]

Touch screen? Seriously? Who even uses the backscreen other than to review images or check settings (xxxD series)?
Nikon's DXXX is not in the same class as Canon's XXXD.

Nikon DX = Canon XD
Nikon DXXX = Canon XXD
Nikon DXX = Canon XXXD.

[brianch]

Let me know when nikon gets an 85L, then i'll start paying attention ;)

wordd

[joedlh]

.......OK, one question. How do they get around your "nose" playing touch with the touch screen while your trying to take a picture? Wonder if they thought of that one.....hehe.

Easy for a company that is the juggernaut of innovation. They designed a special sensor that detects nose oil and turns itself off automatically. It has to do with how the oil affects capacitive resistance. Next question? ;)

[Kris_2020]

.......OK, one question. How do they get around your "nose" playing touch with the touch screen while your trying to take a picture? Wonder if they thought of that one.....hehe.

I`m sure they have. Apple has done that with the iPhone

[ozziepuppy]

.......OK, one question. How do they get around your "nose" playing touch with the touch screen while your trying to take a picture? Wonder if they thought of that one.....hehe.

No one nose.

[cdifoto]

No one nose.
Boo! Hiss! *Throws tomatoes*

:lol:

[Oteck]

No one nose.

thats just bad. though a touch screen would be nice to scroll around previewing images but that's it. I prefer my solid buttons when changing settings

[Geoff_Shawcross]

Ya, figured they likely would have thought of the whole nose bit, but had to ask....hehe.

And Ozziepuppy, that was a bad pun.....hehe. :rolleyes:


Personally I don't think a touchscreen would make a world of a difference to me in terms of whether or not I were to get one camera or another.

[_aravena]

I thought Sony be the first with some crap touch screen. I find it interesting Canon and Nikon had not done like Sony and Olympus and made the screens pop out like Canon's S series.

[Oteck]

you know that would be interesting if you can have 2 lcd, one on the back of the camera and the other one folds out. this way you can do live view w/ the zoomed in and out at the same time to get the framing right.

[_aravena]

What are they, Nintendo DS now?

[Oteck]

the DS sells ;)

[siniquezu]

touch screen? :drool:

[_aravena]

True dat! :D

[Croasdail]

Let me know when nikon gets an 85L, then i'll start paying attention ;)

you should try playing with the Nikkor AF 105mm f/2 D DC... it has some pretty cool tricks that the Canon doesn't get close to. You should check it out just for fun. Each line has there special lens.

[MLphoto]

I might switch to nikon for this camera.

[ozziepuppy]

you should try playing with the Nikkor AF 105mm f/2 D DC... it has some pretty cool tricks that the Canon doesn't get close to. You should check it out just for fun. Each line has there special lens.

What cool tricks?

[John_TX]

Nikon wouldn't know about the nose issue as they have no one to figure out that it would be a problem...all these years, they've been cutting off their nose despite their face!

I guess if your Nikon, it isn't a problem! :p

[crazyskillz07]

I`m sure they have. Apple has done that with the iPhone
Really?? I always manage to accidentally hit mute while I'm on my iphone. I don't get it.

[Croasdail]

What cool tricks?

You can manually adjust the depth of field regardless of the aperture.

[Picture North Carolina]

You can manually adjust the depth of field regardless of the aperture.

For real? At, say. f16 you can manually "bokeh" the background?

Edit: and alternatively, at f2.8 you can increase the DOF?

[shooter mcgavin]

I'm sure there will be a D400 soon, and that would be awesome if it's full frame because soon after Canon would have to make a 60D full-frame semi-pro body. I wouldn't mind that at all...
As far as the screen goes, I don't think it will happen. I think, like the number of megapixels, lcd screen sizes are going to hit a wall. Hopefully they will work more on quality instead of size. 3" is huge.
Touch screen? Maybe on an entry level d60 replacement, but I'm sure Nikon knows what they're doing. What would someone using a d400 benefit from a touch screen? If nothing else, it's just one more wear to worry about.
Meh.

[Karl Johnston]

Just what everyone needs...a touchscreen LCD and 25 megapixels of absolute worthlessness...cause you know, all semi-pros print WALL HIGH prints :lol:

I currently see little difference between the d3, d700 and d3x and now another camera is being introduced called the d400 - why couldn't they have held off on the last 2 updates and just produced the d400 a couple years later? They would've retained their luxury name a little better.


And I really don't want to know the noise performance...the more the manufacturers cater to the megapixel trend the more idiot photographers you're going to get. Maybe it's a conspiracy.

[Croasdail]

For real? At, say. f16 you can manually "bokeh" the background?

Edit: and alternatively, at f2.8 you can increase the DOF?

Not sure I am technical enough to explain it... but yeah. You can dial in the amount of bokeh.

[Picture North Carolina]

Not sure I am technical enough to explain it... but yeah sort of. You can dial in the amount of bokeh.

Interesting. Seems to me that if you could shoot at f2.8 but dial in a f16 DOF and vice versa, it would be such a useful feature that all Nikon lenses would incorporate it.

[Jpiano]

sounds like a beast.

[foxesamu]

There is a much more credible rumor flying around NikonRumors regarding the D400:

So, we know the D400 is coming and I will not be surprised if we see it in the next week or so, together with the new Nikon AF-S Nikkor 35mm f/1.8G DX. I am also smelling another lens, maybe FX… Maybe a remake of an existing lens, but I do not have any info on this - just my own speculation. Nikon has to release something in FX, otherwise all the full frame fans will be pissed about the new DX products. If you remember, the Nikon D90 was released before Photokina, so the D400 could be released before PMA, especially since Canon is expected to release new products as well in the next 2 weeks.

Here are some more related rumors I received, all unconfirmed:

Got a report form a reputable small dealer - D400 should come with 1080p video, more pixels, and better noise. It doesn’t say much, but the point was that it should “really replace” the D300.
Someone (anonymously) sent me some good D400 lottery numbers: 15, 6, 12800, 51, and 1080. I don’t know, it could be a joke.

That clearly means:

15MP
6FPS
12,800 (extendable max ISO)
51 focus points
1080p video

Sounds pretty credible to me. Although I've heard more about a 14MP sensor. I've also heard of a new sensor technology that has bigger photo sites, which allows for more MP and less noise on a DX camera. Don't ask me how to explain, because I couldn't. :p

[c2thew]

touchscreen? doubt it. that is sony's signature feature on their product line.

if it is 15 mp, 6 fps, FF, and video. canon will begin to lose it's strength in the FF market. I can see it now: every 6 months there's going to be a wave of people switching back and forth between nikon and canon. Sounds interesting. =P

don't forget about the micro four thirds system. the panasonic g1 has alot of potential if they pack the camera with strong features on par with canon and nikon.

[ItsMike]

Let me know when nikon gets an 85L, then i'll start paying attention ;)


Yea, Its called the 85 1.4... And from what I herd, it blows away the canon version in IQ... ( From what I have been told from someone who owned both )

[dima1109]

So Nikon made a tricked-out full frame 50D

Whoptee doo

[ItsMike]

So Nikon made a tricked-out full frame 50D

Whoptee doo


Sir, The 50D comes no where near the D700 as far as IQ, Noise Performance, Build, reliability, etc... Hell, does not even come close to my D300 in those areas as well.. Whotee doo !!!!

[dima1109]

Who said anything about D700?

[ItsMike]

So Nikon made a tricked-out full frame 50D

Whoptee doo

Who said anything about D700?


The D400 will be a DX format body. Basically an Updated D300 ( if you would assume that Nikon would stick to their naming convention... The only other Full Frame that Nikon has that even resembles the 50D is the D700...

[siddr20]

Theres an already 1400megapixel camera.. well its a robot apparently

[René Damkot]

Interesting. Seems to me that if you could shoot at f2.8 but dial in a f16 DOF and vice versa, it would be such a useful feature that all Nikon lenses would incorporate it.

Here's a review with a bit of explanation about the Defocus Control: Link (http://www.dantestella.com/technical/1052.html)

[Picture North Carolina]

Here's a review with a bit of explanation about the Defocus Control: Link (http://www.dantestella.com/technical/1052.html)

Thanks. I'll read that.

[MLphoto]

D400 with touch screen, 24 MP and possibly movie mode... this will cost $2,000 minimum but i may consider this camera.

[DallasPhoto]

NEWS FLASH: BREAKING NEWS: NEWS FLASH: BREAKING NEWS: NEW FLASH

Someone has told me that the way technology works is that one company comes out with a product, and a few months later, another company comes out with a similar product but better... AND THEN a few months later the original company comes out with something better... AND THEN the other company comes out with a similar product but better! IT JUST KEEPS GOING THAT WAY!


My point is, the only reason I care what Nikon is coming out with is because Canon is going to come out with something similar or better in the near future. All this talk about switching is insane... because in a few months canon is going to come out with something better. Just make your camera work for you until the next latest and greatest canon comes out. None of this switching back and forth stuff! If you like Nikon better, switch to Nikon... ONCE and stick with them.

This is not like owning a $3000 Panasonic TV and in 5 years switching to a $3000 Pioneer. That kind of switch is fine because there is no loss in lenses and peripherals that go with that tv (except for the remote). But these are cameras and lenses and speedlights and so on and so on that we are talking about... the tools of our trade. Switching is a big deal! Be sure you want to do that for ONE camera body that is going to be replaced in 6 months anyway.

[gjl711]

....All this talk about switching is insane... because in a few months canon is going to come out with something better. Just make your camera work for you until the next latest and greatest canon comes out. None of this switching back and forth stuff! If you like Nikon better, switch to Nikon... ONCE and stick with them....

Wiser words have not been spoken. It's all a game of leap frog and just because a new model comes out, all the old ones don't turn to mud. What one company does will soon be matched by the others. When enough new features pile up, or there is something you really need or want. upgrade. But switching systems is an expensive proposition and i wouldn't make that decision based on one model.

[nphsbuckeye]

Yea, Its called the 85 1.4... And from what I herd, it blows away the canon version in IQ... ( From what I have been told from someone who owned both )
You serious Clark?

[foxesamu]

That is exactly what they want us to do. You see, I have this theory--Canon and Nikon are the same company with two separate "arms." The arms as we know them compete against each other, constantly leap-frogging. They want us to switch so that they make more money.

Or at least, it's fun to think that. :D

[Andrushka]

That is exactly what they want us to do. You see, I have this theory--Canon and Nikon are the same company with two separate "arms." The arms as we know them compete against each other, constantly leap-frogging. They want us to switch so that they make more money.

Or at least, it's fun to think that. :D

i think this is a pretty solid theory... also Sony was revitalized as a 3rd arm of said mega-company to push more sales and capture even more of the market share with alternatives like in body IS to grab some left over percentage of consumers - all the while cross pollinating technologies (such as sensors) to keep costs down and profits up - its all so clear :lol:

[scot079]

You serious Clark?

Cousin Eddie rocks

[Picture North Carolina]

Come on, guys. It ain't just Canon and Nikon, it's the way the world works. It's everything. First there was betamax, then VHS, don't forget SD TV, then quality progressed to DVD, now it's BluRay. And do you think that BluRay will be the final standard for the rest of your life? If so, I've got a great little bridge I'd like to sell you.

It's everything, from toasters to cars. So be good little drones now and keep your wallets out and handy. You'll be swiping that plastic card thru the reader the rest of your life.

[René Damkot]

something better...

Define "better"...

IMO, more Mp doesn't equal better ;)

[airfrogusmc]

Yea, Its called the 85 1.4... And from what I herd, it blows away the canon version in IQ... ( From what I have been told from someone who owned both )

I have a good friend that had one and thats just not true.

What photozone found was consistant with what my buddy and I saw.
Nikon
http://www.photozone.de/nikon--nikkor-aps-c-lens-tests/220-nikkor-af-85mm-f14d-review--test-report?start=1
Canon
http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/163-canon-ef-85mm-f12-usm-l-test-report--review?start=1

The Canon is sharper at the corners wide open and exhibits LESS ca.
So the Nikon doesn't BLOW the Canon 1.2 away...

[DallasPhoto]

Yea, yea, yea Damkot! I sounded good before you came along, thanks alot! That was my first useful comment out of about 250 something on this forum, then YOU came along. Haha JK

But REALLY in regards to your comment, hopefully, sooner rather than later Canon will get off of their Mp high and stop making that their main focus. They have made other improvements to the bodies too such as HD video. I mean, as long as their cameras are flying off the shelves EVEN in this economy, like the 5DII is, they are obviously improving SOMETHING that we as consumers like. Sure, there are always things that we want them to add, but they can't please EVERYONE.

Define "better"...

IMO, more Mp doesn't equal better ;)

[nphsbuckeye]

Cousin Eddie rocks
+1.

[JETSFAN]

I'm waiting for 100mp and a full 24" wide screen rear display with build in Blu-ray. :)

that's funny!

[drisley]

rumors and news go in their own section yes? Especially nikon rumors?
Yup it's called Nikonians ;)

[hooookup]

Yaaawn.....

[_aravena]

With the way Sony is I would not throw out the idea that create some DSLR incorporating blu-ray. Maybe you can play Killzone 2 on it as well! :lol: