SX10 IS Filter Holder Shipping Feb. 20

[PhotoFranz]

I got this messege tonight.

Dear Lensmate Customer,

Exclusively at Lensmate
Now there's a way to mount filters on your SX-10 IS or SX-1 IS.

The Lensmate SX filter holder will accept any 58mm threaded filter or step ring. Each is CNC-machined of Delrin to high tolerances, and bayonets onto the lens barrel quickly and securely. A central knurl makes it easy to hang on to when attaching filters or mounting it on the camera.

Tip: Leave your polarizer in the holder for quick changes. http://lensmateonline.com/newsite/SX10SX1.html (http://lensmateonline.com/newsite/SX10SX1.html)
Now accepting pre-orders, shipping February 20th.








Regards, Susan / Lensmate
susan.sales@lensmateonline.com (susan.sales@lensmateonline.com)
www.lensmateonline.com (http://www.lensmateonline.com/)

[BubbaBob]

Their cheapest shipping charge is more than half the price of the adapter. Pretty steep for something that could be shipped in an envelope.

[PhotoFranz]

LOL, I guess so. It's like anything else... "Don't want it from us? buy it somewhere else... Oh Yeah! No one else sells it"!

Supply and demand I guess.

[JustShootin']

I ordered mine and am very happy with the price, shipping and all. In fact, I ordered two of them. I think if there's a complaint, it should be with Canon for not having filter threads on the SX10 to begin with.

[PhotoFranz]

I ordered mine and am very happy with the price, shipping and all. In fact, I ordered two of them. I think if there's a complaint, it should be with Canon for not having filter threads on the SX10 to begin with.

Boy, that sure makes sense to me. I am ordering mine today.

[selkie]

Boy, that sure makes sense to me. I am ordering mine today.


brilliant- I've just ordered one now

alison

[wildmike]

I am ordering mine to. are you guys buying filters from them to? I don't own any. They sell Hoya's. Best Buy sells Sunpack.

[YoungBuck]

So what exactly is this going to allow me to do? Im fairly new to the camera, so if someone could explain it would be appreciated!

[PhotoFranz]

The SX10 and SX1 do not have threads for mounting a filter on the end of the lens. This allows you to mount a filter.

I am planning on using a Circular Polarizing Filter (CPL). You can google that and see what it will do for your pictures.

[Eunos]

I have a Lensmate adapter on my S5 and I couldn't be happier with both the product and their service. If the SX10 adapter even comes close, it will be a great product and worth every penny.

I may consider buying an SX 10 now!

Gary

[lensmen]

Patience....I just wait for what I can find locally. If the G10 has a similar item at affordable prices, I don't see why there can't be one for the SX10..

[JustShootin']

Just recieved an e-mail saying my adapter had been shipped!;)

[PhotoFranz]

My sister lives near me and also bought a Canon SX10. She ordered 2 adaptors for us and we split the shipping. We win, We win!

[originalstarlite]

Just recieved an e-mail saying my adapter had been shipped!;)

I placed my order on Wednesday but did not get the "shipped" email. I guess it is because I also ordered the UV filter, lens cap, hot shoe cover, and lens cleaner. Now I'll be back ordered. :rolleyes:

[JustShootin']

I placed my order on Wednesday but did not get the "shipped" email. I guess it is because I also ordered the UV filter, lens cap, hot shoe cover, and lens cleaner. Now I'll be back ordered. :rolleyes:

Actually I ordered mine back on the 14th, with the understanding it would be shipped on the 20th.

[2Shiny]

I ordered mine about a week ago, realizing the adaptor wasn't going to be ready until the 20th. Also got an HMC UV, HMC circular polarizer, HMC ND8, Macro filter set, lens cap, hot shoe cover, and a mini tripod. I can't wait...I feel like singing with the Pointer Sisters.

[originalstarlite]

I ordered mine about a week ago, realizing the adaptor wasn't going to be ready until the 20th. Also got an HMC UV, HMC circular polarizer, HMC ND8, Macro filter set, lens cap, hot shoe cover, and a mini tripod. I can't wait...I feel like singing with the Pointer Sisters.

And I thought my purchase was extravagant. After we get our options we will have to compare versatility notes. For one, I was sad to lose the Canon tulip shade. Sure, it was a built in flash shadow to avoid, but outdoors it had a lot of value. I tracked down a 58mm tulip shade for $3.50! It has not arrived yet, so I hesitate to say anything about its quality. I'll let you know.

[Fourchids]

If the Lensmate adapler threads into the original canon hood thread, how can you use this 58 mm tulip hood? I am puzzled and add to this, a question from a photo newbie, what is the function of the hood? Thanks

[pinkcrayon]

Since I am an amateur should I buy this adapter? I have taken some pretty awesome shots with my camera and I someday hope to become a professional but i'm not sure if I should jump the gun and buy all these nifty little toys, lol.

Does anybody know of a website where I can look up all the photography terms? 65mm stands for millimeter correct? That's the dimensions of the lens or what? I know bokeh, aperture, shutter speed, etc and a lot more but there are a few things I don't know....

Anyone point me in a terminology direction? =D

[originalstarlite]

If the Lensmate adapler threads into the original canon hood thread, how can you use this 58 mm tulip hood? I am puzzled and add to this, a question from a photo newbie, what is the function of the hood? Thanks

It's a standard 58mm thread that will go directly on my UV filter. The hood is to keep extraneous light from crossing the lens and causing unnecessary exposure problems.

[wildmike]

i received notice today my filter adapter has been shipped.

[JustShootin']

I received mine today, and it's a handy dandy little adapter. Shame on Canon for making a camera of this caliber with no filter threads.

[PhotoFranz]

If the Lensmate adapler threads into the original canon hood thread, how can you use this 58 mm tulip hood? I am puzzled and add to this, a question from a photo newbie, what is the function of the hood? Thanks

There are no threads on the SX10 lens. The Lensmate adaptor attaches to the bayonet mounting for the lens hood. Lensmate went a bit larger with the threads so that there would not be any loss of light. If there WERE threads on the SX10 lens, they would be 52mm. The adaptor uses 58mm. You can buy lens hoods that screw into the 58mm threads that would be on the filter in the adaptor. So, you can have the adaptor, a filter and a 58mm lens hood on.

[JustShootin']

Kinda looks like using any hood with this adapter will cause vignetting at wide angle.

[PhotoFranz]

Kinda looks like using any hood with this adapter will cause vignetting at wide angle.

I do not think that this is the case at all. Lensmate even sells one that should work just fine.

[JustShootin']

I do not think that this is the case at all. Lensmate even sells one that should work just fine.

Maybe I just need the right hood. I have a couple of older ones laying around and there is vignetting with them.

[JustShootin']

I trimmed one of my old rubber hoods to make it a bit shorter and it works fine.

[Fourchids]

Has anyone in the forum received and used their lensmate extension filter holder yet? Being new in digital photography, I am still perplexed how a 58mm can be utilized in a 52mm lens without any effect on the pictures. Is there no compromise in quality from 52 to 58 mm lens ?

[Jon]

It's not a lens. Filters are intended to be optically neutral, filtering out certain light but not altering the lens' properties. All you're doing is using a bigger filter in front of your lens than you might need to. SLR owners commonly buy a filter to fit their largest diameter lens and use "step-up" rings to attach the same filter to lenses of smaller diameters. That's all that is being done here.

[Fourchids]

Thank you for clarifying my dilemma. I am still learning and will continue to, from knowledgeable experts like you.

[2Shiny]

I received my order today. Although the macro lenses always excite me, I think the one item that made me smile the most was the Ultrapod II. That little thing is awesome. I strapped it to a couple of trees and to my kitchen table leg. It slides right onto the side of my camera bag too for easy transport.
Here are a few macro shots from today:
http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss206/pskaw387/Pinecone3-R.jpg
http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss206/pskaw387/Mosslichens2-R.jpg
http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss206/pskaw387/Lichen-R.jpg
http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss206/pskaw387/Buckthornbuds-R.jpg

[originalstarlite]

And I thought my purchase was extravagant. After we get our options we will have to compare versatility notes. For one, I was sad to lose the Canon tulip shade. Sure, it was a built in flash shadow to avoid, but outdoors it had a lot of value. I tracked down a 58mm tulip shade for $3.50! It has not arrived yet, so I hesitate to say anything about its quality. I'll let you know.

Well, better late than never. Pony Express Priority delivered my package in 5 days here is PA. I sure did screw that UV into the adapter ring very carefully, but now that it is done, any further removal/insertions should be very easy. That $3.50 tulip style shade was a bust. Vignetting was awful so I ordered a 3 stage collapsible rubber from camerafilters.com. Hopefully that will be the ticket for success.

[oldkid]

Received my adapter with the Hoya HMV UV filter and lens cap in three days to Baltimore. This is a great setup and love the lens cap. Cap is much better than the one that comes with the camera.

[selkie]

My lensmate adapter arrived today. I've just screwed in the hoya filter and attached it.
I gave myself a scare as the camera refused to turn on after i'd attached the adapter plus filter -I'd forgotten to put a memory card in the camera

phew!

I can't wait to use my close up lenses again but I need to use a 58 to 52 step down ring for that and i suppose i am a bit worried about the weight of the closeup lens the adapters and filter

Does anyone know how much weight the lens can take without problems?

alison

[JustShootin']

Does anyone know how much weight the lens can take without problems?

alison

Not sure, but Canon must have thought.......none!;)

[selkie]

Not sure, but Canon must have thought.......none!;)

I suppose that's what's worrying me:wink:

[originalstarlite]

Not sure, but Canon must have thought.......none!;)

So why don't I ask before I buy an adapter, filter, and rubber hood? Noooooo!

But I did send Canon an inquiry about "the horse that already left the barn." I'll let you know when I hear a reply.

[originalstarlite]

So why don't I ask before I buy an adapter, filter, and rubber hood? Noooooo!

But I did send Canon an inquiry about "the horse that already left the barn." I'll let you know when I hear a reply.

Wow! Canon email support on Sunday morning. I am impressed. bw!
Here is the reply to read and weep:

Thank you for your inquiry regarding adding a filter to the SX10 IS camera. We value you as a Canon customer and appreciate the opportunity to assist you.

Unfortunately, the lens design of the SX10 IS camera does not allow the addition of add-on lenses or filters. I am unable to recommend using this camera with a bayonet mount as this has not been tested by Canon.
I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.

Please let us know if we can be of any further assistance with your SX10 IS camera.

Thank you for choosing Canon.

Sincerely,

Joann
Technical Support Representative


So what does that really mean? The adapter just came out last week and they have not tested it. And why should they test it, it is not a Canon Accessory. We can only hope that Lensmate did some type of study in the engineering/design of this before they manufactured and sold. Otherwise we users will all be in for repairs that are not covered under warranty.:cry: :cry:

[JustShootin']

I have all the faith in the world that the adapter will handle what Lensmate says it will, a filter, and the macro filter/lens recommended by them. Personally, all I plan to add to the lens, is a polarizer from time to time. Anyone who would try to screw a teleconverter etc. to that adapter doesn't need to own a camera!;)

[PhotoFranz]

I have all the faith in the world that the adapter will handle what Lensmate says it will, a filter, and the macro filter/lens recommended by them. Personally, all I plan to add to the lens, is a polarizer from time to time. Anyone who would try to screw a teleconverter etc. to that adapter doesn't need to own a camera!;)

I agree, you need to use common sense. My adaptor was delivered the other day to my sister's house and our CPL filters are coming to my house this coming Tuesday. I will be going out to her place next Saturday and I will be hoping for a sunnny day so we can try it all out. The CPL is probably all I will ever hang on the front of the camera.

[PhotoFranz]

So, some of you guys (and gals) already have the adaptor and a CPL. When are we going to see some with/without shots?

[Jon]

I suspect that the first thing to fail if you overloaded the adapter would be either the adapter or the bayonet fitting it attaches to, not the lens proper.

[selkie]

WowAccessory. We can only hope that Lensmate did some type of study in the engineering/design of this before they manufactured and sold. Otherwise we users will all be in for repairs that are not covered under warranty.:cry: :cry:



I hope so- they seem to spend a lot of time refining things, otherwise i'm sure the adapter would have been available earlier

CANON must have done some sort of research on hoods and lens caps and how the lens copes with them

I think i will be adding my close-up lenses as needed though

[JustShootin']

We can only hope that Lensmate did some type of study in the engineering/design of this before they manufactured and sold. Otherwise we users will all be in for repairs that are not covered under warranty.:cry: :cry:


Now there's just a chance that I wouldn't tell Canon that I had used a third party accessory. By the way, what is this adapter thing you all keep talking about? :D

[hottstuff_284]

The plastic theads are kind of scary, but I'm using a step ring so that should help. Does anybody know if the SX10 can do infrared by just using a filter?

[Jon]

Do a quick test by taking it into a dark room and taking a picture of the front of a TV remote while you're pushing the buttons . . .

[originalstarlite]

I'm selling my combo of adapter and Hoya HMC UV. Never used 50% off. PM your interest.

[hottstuff_284]

Do a quick test by taking it into a dark room and taking a picture of the front of a TV remote while you're pushing the buttons . . .

Thanks for the info. The light on the remote was flashing even when just viewing it through the lens. I guess that means it should work!

[Jon]

sounds like it does. You can't see the remote light if you're just eyeballing it, right?

[hottstuff_284]

No, it's only visible through the camera. Now I'm going to have to get one of those handy IR filters!

[PhotoFranz]

No, it's only visible through the camera. Now I'm going to have to get one of those handy IR filters!

I tried it on mine and it worked too. I will be waiting to see the results when someone springs for an IR filter. I had a FujiFilm camera that you could see the "remote lights" in too. However, when I bought an IR filter for it, it did not work. Oh, it picked up IR and filtered out visable light alright, but the IR that came through was so dim that exposures were VERY long and the results unusable.

[PhotoFranz]

I found this:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1010&message=30794014

Not too encouraging.

[Jon]

Whole lot of "I suppose" and not much "my experience". If you can photograph the IR sender of a remote you're doing better than 99% of unconverted DSLRs. Fact is, an IR filter cuts out a whole lot of light and IR's very sensitive to moisture in the air.

[originalstarlite]

I trimmed one of my old rubber hoods to make it a bit shorter and it works fine.
Everything I have tried does not work. Which one did you trim down, and how much?

The last rubber shade I bought from CameraFilters.com was on metal ring that was wide enough to cause vignetting without the rubber attached! No trimming needed to solve that problem. I have enough money thrown at this problem with no solution that it is starting to feel like a government project. :o

[JustShootin']

Everything I have tried does not work. Which one did you trim down, and how much?


It was just an old rubber hood that I started trimming on until it worked just fine. But then I started to trim a bit more to make it look better, and the razor slipped. I ended up ruining it. I'm not one who usally worries about looks, if it works. Wish I would have felt that way this time. Oh well, back out to Ritz for another rubber hood! ;)

[Fast92RS]

Just ordered one.

[PhotoFranz]

I picked mine up today at my sister's house. I am VERY impressed with the look of the adaptor and how well it fits. I actually think it goes on easier and fits better than the Canon lens hood! The filter went into the threads easily (both mine and my sister's) and there were NO cross-threading issues. I am happy.

We also purchased the 58mm lenscaps from Lensmate and they are also very nice. The Tiffen CPL (purchased elsewhere) is probably in my adaptor to stay as I really have no use for other filters. I am considering a second adaptor and a UV filter just to protect my lens.

[mdvaden]

I just bought the Canon SX10.

Had a S1 IS for years, and last year got a A650 IS which I like and still have.

Saw the adapter at Lensmate. (I'm talking SX 10 now)

So ... it simply twists in, where the hood would go - right?

I'm mostly point and shoot - barely experiment. But thought about the polarizer. Do you think the near $22 double coated is worth a test run? Or would it be better to go for the near $71 multi coated polarizer?

I heard that the lens from the factory has some kind of coating which may be partially effective anyway. True? Or minor and inconsequential.

Thanks.

:cool:

[Jon]

Spend the extra for the multicoated filter, preferably B+W MRC, Hoya S-HMC or Heliopan SH-PMC at a minimum. Every glass surface is susceptible to reflections, so having a multi-coated lens doesn't free you to use an uncoated or single-coated filter. The filter can and will still have an impact on your image quality.

[McMaster]

Guys, my first post, joined 5 minutes ago based on my work bud who is a member here .. He told me to get a uv filter asap, freaked me out about the kids messing up the lens coating, rain drops etc.. this thread like other sites says it can't be done .. took my 2 week old SX10 into Henry's today, asked that we check compatibility .. they grabbed a 52mm with "Pitch: 0.75" Hoya UV(0) (52S UV HMC SUP) off the rack, and spun it right on nice and tight ..surprised them too I think .. far from a subject authority here, but 39 bucks later I think this to-do is off my list! I just spun it off for a last for a bit lens cleaning and it went right back easily .. I assume I should clean the UV lens with the Lenspen thing they sold me? take care and teach me stuff? .. Regards .. Ian

[Hasitha]

We also purchased the 58mm lenscaps from Lensmate and they are also very nice. The Tiffen CPL (purchased elsewhere) is probably in my adaptor to stay as I really have no use for other filters. I am considering a second adaptor and a UV filter just to protect my lens.

How's your experince with Tiffen 58mm CPL filter on SX10is ? I don't know i should go for this or Hoya 58MM Circular Polarizer Glass Filter .. Hoya costs like 70 usd and Tiffen is around 22 usd. so ..

[PhotoFranz]

I have not used it yet and won't to any degree until tax season is over. I too two pictures out my back door the other morning, one with and one without. This was just to make sure it worked. It did and there was a remarkable improvement in the clouds and sky with it, also in the detail of the garages in the neighborhood. But, I have no idea if I will get any lens flare or other problems due to it being a low cost filter. I will post the pictures here Sautrday evening.

[Jon]

Go with the Hoya, from the price it's one of their better multicoated ones. Tiffen filters aren't the greatest, and $22 isn't going to be one of their better ones.

[PhotoFranz]

I would agree with Jon. I am retired and on a tight budget, so it was the Tiffen. At least for now.

[Farnsrocket]

Hello all! Just joined the forum and just got my Sx10 last week. I read about the "no threads" on this camera after I ordered it, but soon discovered Lensmate and ordered their adapter immediately......I wish I would have realized their lens cap would have worked with this. :oops:
Just got it today.....it is a wonderful piece, something Canon should have thought of in the first place. :D

Here are some quick shots I took of it and a Digital Concepts UV filter with my A620:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/Farnsrocket/Camera%20stuff/IMG_1788.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/Farnsrocket/Camera%20stuff/IMG_1789.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/Farnsrocket/Camera%20stuff/IMG_1790.jpg

[McMaster]

Farnsrocket, if you don't mind me asking, what did you drop on the adapter? is it machined aluminum or the like? I assume it's now a permanent part of the lens and you'll spin on filters as you see fit? I assume zero interference in shots - no ring showing up or the like? thx

[Farnsrocket]

I believe it was $24.47 shipped.....I thought it was a little steep, the shipping was
$8.52, but where else are ya gonna get something like this?
It is Delrin plastic and it twists on like the Canon hood, with the bayonet lugs, so it's not permanent. It is solid though and I would buy it again!
Here's a link to it:
http://www.lensmateonline.com/store/sx10sx1.html

[PhotoFranz]

For about $5, their 58mm lenscap is a really nice one.

[PhotoFranz]

Farnsrocket, if you don't mind me asking, what did you drop on the adapter? is it machined aluminum or the like? I assume it's now a permanent part of the lens and you'll spin on filters as you see fit? I assume zero interference in shots - no ring showing up or the like? thx

I have seen no interference in any test shots I have taken. I plan on leaving my CPL filter permanently in the adaptor and then using the bayonet mount to snap the filter on in no time when I want to use it. This will be a bit easier than threading on a filter.

[Farnsrocket]

For about $5, their 58mm lenscap is a really nice one.

Yep, I actually found one exactly like it today at my local camera shop for $5.95 too. :)

[pci2000]

Thanks for the info! I just ordered the adapter, lens cap, and Hoya HMC UV 58mm filter. I was looking for something like this for a point-and-shoot, and am happy someone decided to take the time to make it!

[Hasitha]

How long it will take for them to ship these stuff ? I ordered

* Lensmate SX10 Filter Adapter
* 58 mm Lens Cap
* Hoya Circular HMC Polarizer
* Raynox DCR-250 Super Macro

2 days ago. Still I haven't received their "Goods s shipped" mail ..

[Farnsrocket]

Like 3 days......it comes USPS Priority and they are in Washington.
I think I got it before the email came! :D

[Cardinal Rule]

What does the tether on the Lensmate 58mm lenscap hook to? My wife is constantly 'misplacing' the untethered lenscap that came with our SX10 IS.

[Hasitha]

Like 3 days......it comes USPS Priority and they are in Washington.
I think I got it before the email came! :D

Yup. Its in 3 days. Received the email today. Now I'm waiting for the package.:)

[Jon]

What does the tether on the Lensmate 58mm lenscap hook to? My wife is constantly 'misplacing' the untethered lenscap that came with our SX10 IS.Whatever you want. You can secure it to the strap if you like (easiest), or a 1/4-20 screw threaded into the tripod socket for instance. Or to a rubber band you slid over the lens barrel. Or you could secure it to the folding LCD if you really wanted to.

If you look at the Canon SX10 lens cap, though, you'll see it has a clip on the inside to let you slide it over the strap when it's not on the lens. Or you could glue a piece of string (either directly or threaded through a solderless electrical crimp connector) onto it and tie it to the camera or strap somewhere. That's basically what Sima's CapKeeper (http://www.simaproducts.com/products/product_detail.php?product_id=60) is.

[pci2000]

What does the tether on the Lensmate 58mm lenscap hook to? My wife is constantly 'misplacing' the untethered lenscap that came with our SX10 IS.

You would loop the tether to one of the strap holders. It should not take up too much space along with the strap.

[PhotoFranz]

One thing to consider here. You probably won't be leaving the Lensmate adaptor on very much. Porbably only when using a CPL filter. At least, this will be true for me. So, most of the time, you will want to be using the 52mm lenscap that came with the camera, not the 58mm one that goes with the Lensmate. It seems easier to stick the lens cap in a pocket than go through putting it on and taking it off for a few shots.

[JustShootin']

While I have lost a few lens caps over a period of many years, I have never once used a string for my cap to dangle from my camera when I'm using it. I keep it in my pocket, and should I lose it, I reach in my pocket, bag or my junk drawer and get another one!;)

[Cardinal Rule]

One thing to consider here. You probably won't be leaving the Lensmate adaptor on very much. Porbably only when using a CPL filter. At least, this will be true for me. So, most of the time, you will want to be using the 52mm lenscap that came with the camera, not the 58mm one that goes with the Lensmate. It seems easier to stick the lens cap in a pocket than go through putting it on and taking it off for a few shots.

Someone told me some time ago that having a UV filter on your camera at all times (unless of course you have a specific need for a different filter) not only can give you a slightly better picture in some cases but also serves as protection for your camera's lens - I for one would much rather replace a $30 filter than a $300 camera because of scratches on the lens. I know I was taking a bunch of shots at my daughter's volleyball game a couple weeks ago and accidentally touched the camera lens with my thumb, leaving a nice smudgeprint. Easy enough to clean off, but made me think how easy it would be to scratch the lens while waiting for the perfect action shots. Thoughts?

[pci2000]

Cardinal Rule, I agree with you on this 100%. It's the main reason why I bought the Lensmate adapter with the $20 Hoya UV filter in the first place. I'd much rather replace the filter than the lens.

There's a Flickr group for SX10 owners, and one of the members there posted pictures on how it actually looks.

http://www.flickr.com/groups/canonpowershotsx10is

The member's name that posted the camera photos is 'fourstuarts'. His photos show an SX1 IS, but the lens and body are the same as the SX10 IS.
His gallery shows photos of the Lensmate adapter and how it looks, with the Lensmate adapter and filter installed, and with the lens cap on top of the adapter and filter.

http://www.flickr.com/people/fourstuarts/

(No I am not 'fourstuarts') :D

[Farnsrocket]

Someone told me some time ago that having a UV filter on your camera at all times (unless of course you have a specific need for a different filter) not only can give you a slightly better picture in some cases but also serves as protection for your camera's lens - I for one would much rather replace a $30 filter than a $300 camera because of scratches on the lens. I know I was taking a bunch of shots at my daughter's volleyball game a couple weeks ago and accidentally touched the camera lens with my thumb, leaving a nice smudgeprint. Easy enough to clean off, but made me think how easy it would be to scratch the lens while waiting for the perfect action shots. Thoughts?

Ditto! :D

[pci2000]

Here's a question for the group.
Once you get the Lensmate accessories installed, the lens hood that came with the camera can't be used, without having to remove everything. Can you simply use a 58mm SLR lens hood? And if so, will it work with the filter installed, or do you have to remove the filter? If it won't install with the filter installed, do they sell rubber ones that simply install on the outer lens shell without having to be screwed on?
Ideally, I'm looking for one that will install with the accessories (and lens cap installed too, if possible).
Thanks.

[PhotoFranz]

I have seen a lot written on here about that, but have not read about full success. In theory, it works, but people have been reporting vingnetting with all trys I have read about. Since the new Lensmate adaptor does not have its own bayonet mount, you need to use a screw on lens hood.

[pci2000]

OK thanks. So basically I would need to remove any type of filter before installing the lens hood. Oh well, it is what it is...

[PhotoFranz]

OK thanks. So basically I would need to remove any type of filter before installing the lens hood. Oh well, it is what it is...

Nope, not at all. You will first put the adaptor on the lens barrel, then, screw on the filter. Then, the filter has female threads on the front that you can screw a lens hood onto. You MUST have a lens hood that screws on, not a bayonet mount.

[Farnsrocket]

Yep, what Photofranz said! :D
I just bought a 58mm, rubber, screw-on lens hood today! I will take some pics tonight if ya want to see it on with the Lensmate adapter and UV filter and 58mm cap too!!!

[PhotoFranz]

Yep, what Photofranz said! :D
I just bought a 58mm, rubber, screw-on lens hood today! I will take some pics tonight if ya want to see it on with the Lensmate adapter and UV filter and 58mm cap too!!!

I would like to see it alright, but I would also like a report on how well it works. Let us know if you get any vignetting. This seems to be a common complaint.

[Jon]

Probably because at 5 mm (wide angle zoom) your angle of view is about 60 degrees. Unless you get a wide angle lens hood you can expect vignetting down there. "Normal" lenses have an AoV of around 45 deg. or less.

[pci2000]

Yep, what Photofranz said! :D
I just bought a 58mm, rubber, screw-on lens hood today! I will take some pics tonight if ya want to see it on with the Lensmate adapter and UV filter and 58mm cap too!!!

I'd love to see pictures too! Plus, I'd rather have a rubber lens hood anyway than plastic. Thanks!

[Farnsrocket]

I would like to see it alright, but I would also like a report on how well it works. Let us know if you get any vignetting. This seems to be a common complaint.

Here are some pics......and you were right!

For starters, here is the Lensmate adapter, UV filter and lens cap. This is a lens cap from my local camera shop, made by Promaster.......i think it is identical to the Lensmate one. Nice and neat. Cap stays on great!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/Farnsrocket/Camera%20stuff/IMG_1797.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/Farnsrocket/Camera%20stuff/IMG_1796.jpg

Here is the 58mm screw-on lens hood made by Kalt. It is attached to the UV filter which is attached to the Lensmate adapter......really big!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/Farnsrocket/Camera%20stuff/IMG_1798.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/Farnsrocket/Camera%20stuff/IMG_1800.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/Farnsrocket/Camera%20stuff/IMG_1801.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/Farnsrocket/Camera%20stuff/IMG_1803.jpg

[Farnsrocket]

And here are some pics taken in Auto mode. Definitely a problem. :( It was even worse in Wide Angle. When I zoomed in a bit, it was fine.

Hood closed:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/Farnsrocket/Camera%20stuff/closed.jpg

Hood open:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/Farnsrocket/Camera%20stuff/flash.jpg

Flash with hood open (notice huge shadow):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/Farnsrocket/Camera%20stuff/flash.jpg

[PhotoFranz]

The pictures look a bit like a "crystal ball". In fact, I think it is working - I am seeing NO LENS HOOD in my future!

[Farnsrocket]

:lol:

Good thing I kept the receipt!

Oh, and I did try it with the UV filter off and put just the hood on the Lensmate adapter. It helped a little, and when the hood was closed, it almost didn't show, but you could still see it when it was open.

[dan j]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/Farnsrocket/Camera%20stuff/flash.jpg
Does it seem odd to anyone that the hood seems off-center? It looks like the camera isn't shooting straight ahead. Is that the way cameras are set up?

dan

[Farnsrocket]

I noticed that too :eek:
It's actually the rubber hood is just not perfectly round. When I touched the right side a bit, it moved the side in.

[Jon]

Fold the cylindrical part of the hood back while letting the cone extend.

[dan j]

I noticed that too :eek:
It's actually the rubber hood is just not perfectly round. When I touched the right side a bit, it moved the side in.Cool. So, when someone asks, "how's it hanging?" your SX10 IS can answer them ;)

dan

[Farnsrocket]

HA!!

[pci2000]

I'm wondering if you get the hard plastic flower-petal type 58mm one, if it would vignette the same way.

[PhotoFranz]

I'm wondering if you get the hard plastic flower-petal type 58mm one, if it would vignette the same way.

Have you seen one that screws on? Remember, bayonet will not work.

[JustShootin']

I bought a wide angle hood that is very shallow and supposed to work with 28MM, but it still vignettes a little at the wide end. I can cut it down some, but I'm afraid it will be too shallow to be of much benefit.

[pci2000]

Have you seen one that screws on? Remember, bayonet will not work.

I've seen them on Amazon.
58mm Flower Lens Hood, Black (http://www.amazon.com/Mennon-DC-s-58-Screw-Flower/dp/B0019BGDNC/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1238155625&sr=8-10)

It claims that the hood with screw mount fits over any 58mm lens filter or barrel thread.

What I plan to do though is go to my local camera store and try one out myself.

[ksuamy20]

I just ordered my SX10, it hasn't arrived yet but I am already thinking I would like to get the Lensmate adapter. Tell me if I am correct here:

- The SX10 does not take filters
- The Lesnmate adapter will allow for the use of 58mm filters
- You will need to buy a new 58mm lens cap if you want to have a lens cap on when the adapter is on
- You will need to find a 58mm screw-on lens hood if you want to use a lens hood when you have the adapter on

Questions:

- Are most people going to be leaving the adapter on all the time with a UV filter and then just change out the UV filter when necessary? Is it okay to leave the adapter on with no filter?
- Are there any cons to leaving the adapter on all the time if you have a proper lens cap?
- Can the lens extend/retract with the adapter, filter and lens cap all in place?

I am semi-new to photography and just trying to figure things out before I buy!

[pci2000]

Hi ksuamy20.

To answer your points:
- No, the SX10 does not take filters out of the box. It has a bayonet mount for the lens cap only.
- Yes, the Lensmate (http://lensmateonline.com/newsite/SX10SX1.html)adapter will allow 58mm filters.
- Yes, you will need a 58mm lens cap if you leave the filter on. Lensmate sells them with the adapter, as well as selling filters.
- Yes, you will need a new 58mm screw-on lens hood, if you plan to leave the filter on. The lens hood that comes with the camera is a 52mm bayonet mount. I found a link that I put in the post right before yours, where to buy a 58mm screw-on hood.

To answer your questions:
- I plan on leaving the adapter and UV filter in all the time, as it protects the lens. I only plan to remove it if I want to install another filter, like a polarized one or macro filter.
- I don't forsee any cons. Maybe someone else can chime in on that.
- Yes, the the lens can extend and retract normally. I posted on page 6, post 81, that I found a guy that posted photos of his camera with everything installed. Lensmate recommends the weight limit on the accessories it sells, so as not to harm the zoom motor. Here's the link to my post (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=7594959&postcount=81).

I just received the Lensmate adapter, Hoya UV filter, and lens cap last week. It only took 3 days!

[ksuamy20]

Thank you so much, pci2000. You answered all of my questions.

Thanks for linking me back to the photos, I must have missed it the first time around.

Looks like I'm in the market for some more camera accessories :)

[Fourchids]

I ordered my lensmate adapter, UV filter and lens cover last Thursday and it arrived yesterday. Good service. I already have it on my SX10. One question though, how useful is the circular polarizer. The quantaray is on sale right now at wolfe but they also carry the 58mm canon, which is rather pricey $82.00. I am a leisure photographer with plan to travel to the Holyland sometime July. For those of you who have visited the place is the UV filter sufficient or should I buy the circular polarizer as well.Thank you.:D

[ksuamy20]

This might be a dumb question but -

What is the purpose of a macro filter on a camera that already has macro, and even super macro?

[PhotoFranz]

This might be a dumb question but -

What is the purpose of a macro filter on a camera that already has macro, and even super macro?

It isn't really a filter, it is a lens that allows you to make your subject appear even closer. You usually do sacrafice DOF.

[Jon]

It lets you get close-up or macro shots without having to put your camera as close to the subject as you would using only the camera's "close focusing" capabilities.

[ksuamy20]

Ah, so perhaps it would be nice if you wanted to take macro photos of insects but the insects weren't allowing you to get that close?

I don't know why I said "macro filter", guess I had filters on the brain! Looking at the one on the lensmate website I can see that it is more like a small lens than a filter.

[Jon]

Yes, it'll help for that. A lot of people refer to them as "filters" because they screw onto the front of your main lens.

[selkie]

Yes, it'll help for that. A lot of people refer to them as "filters" because they screw onto the front of your main lens.


Here is a photo of a fly taken with sx10is and raynox 250 macro lens - the camera lens is at maximum zoom so i was about 8 inches from the fly whereas the camera macro wouldn't magnify to that extent and i woudl have needed to be nearly on top of it and it would have flown away
I've also cropped the same photo to show the facets of the eye a bit better

Photo was taken hand held whilst steadied a bit by a twig i found - a tripod woudl be better but I want to learn to keep it steady if possible

alison

[pci2000]

Selkie, I have a question. When you were shooting, did you use Macro or Super Macro mode when you had the Raynox lens on? Or was that not necessary?
It sounds like you had the zoom all the way out in 'normal' shooting mode, and not in either Macro mode.

[selkie]

Selkie, I have a question. When you were shooting, did you use Macro or Super Macro mode when you had the Raynox lens on? Or was that not necessary?
It sounds like you had the zoom all the way out in 'normal' shooting mode, and not in either Macro mode.

I tried it at first with the macro modes [a teeny bit of magnification huge vignettes like a porthole ] but then my husband pointed out that its meant to extend a telephoto [ooops] -and wow its amazing.
It has been my ambition for years to take closeups of insect eyes - so I am really pleased


alison

[ksuamy20]

Thanks for the pictures selkie - the Raynox macro lens seems like a neat and fun little accessory to have!

[pci2000]

Yes, thanks selkie! I may plan to buy it myself. I just was not sure how it would fare compared to the built-in Macro modes that the camera already has. Now I'm sold on it!

[selkie]

ksuamy20 (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/member.php?u=190157)- its really nice little gadget -its going to get a lot of use this summer:smile:


Yes, thanks selkie! I may plan to buy it myself. I just was not sure how it would fare compared to the built-in Macro modes that the camera already has. Now I'm sold on it!

The inbuilt macro and super macro is very good already - but the raynox just adds so many macro possibilities

alison

[Farnsrocket]

edit: nevermind, I just realized what I typed before I thought about it! :rolleyes::D

[Hasitha]

I received mine today. 15 days after ordering !

.

[gitarmac]

I recieved my filter holder yesterday, it seems to work great. I really like the lens cap.

I am interesed in the raynox macro lens but am concerned about the weight on the lens, is it heavy?

What about the other screw on macro lenses. Would they work also?

I got a polorizing filter but it was the linear one instead of the circular one. I'm not noticing much of a differance and i think that's why. Of course I need to try it out a little more and havn't had the chance yet.

[Jon]

Linear vs. circulart polarizer shouldn't affect the photo results; cameras with partially-silvered mirrors in the focusing/metering path (SLRs and DSLRs) need to use circular polarizers because the partial silvering also polarizes light and you risk a complete cutoff of the light at certain alignments with linears.

Polarizers will have the maximum impact on the sky when you're looking at right angles to the sun; you'll need to rotate the filter to see this. They also work on reflections from non-metallic surfaces (paint, water, glass for instance).

[Hasitha]

I think i saw somewhere saying Linear polarizer lens might effect Auto Focus ?

Also this circular polarizer filter is a UV filter ?

.


.

[Jon]

Linear polarizers can affect auto-focus, like I said above, only when there's a partially-reflective mirror involved. It will not affect AF on the SX10.

No. A polarizer is not a UV filter, but you don't need a UV filter. Your camera's pretty well resistant to UV light issues. The main use for a UV filter nowadays is to protect the front of the lens.

[Hasitha]

Thanks for explaining. Well i was thinking about a UV filter just as lens protector but since I have the CPL filter it can use as the lens protector for general use I guess ?

[gitarmac]

It might just have been the subject matter, I'll be trying it again soon, I think I might have a dramtic sky today.

[Jon]

You wouldn't want to use a polarizer as a general protection filter - it'll cost you about 2 stops of light whenever it's on.

[Hasitha]

You wouldn't want to use a polarizer as a general protection filter - it'll cost you about 2 stops of light whenever it's on.

Hmm 6 coating are too much then Well those UV filters with 2 coatings would be ok ? or a one with 4 coatings ?

[Jon]

No - it's not the multicoatings - multicoatings (the more the better, in general) help light transmission. But a polarizing filter is dark, like a pair of sunglasses. A UV filter is almost clear glass. It's the polarizing film that absorbs the light.

[Hasitha]

Lansmate site has 2 UV filters.. Hoya UV Black (double coated) 58mm (14$) and Hoya HMC UV 58mm (22$).

http://www.lensmateonline.com/store/sx10sx1.html

So HMC UV 58mm would be the one to buy ?

[ksuamy20]

I just got my Lensmate order in today!

My camera is set to be here tomorrow (I know, I kind of did things backwards!) but at least I have all the accessories now.

Obviously I couldn't try out the adapter on the camera, but I did screw on one of the filters and it fits just fine, the new lens cap I bought fits nicely too. I went ahead and bought the collapsible lens hood that Lensmate had - it's pretty nice because it is just rubber and it collapses down flat - definitely a space saver! Lensmate did a great job with this adapter and also with suggesting other accessories (ie, the lens cap, lens hood, etc all fit perfectly).

Oh, and my order was shipped out Friday and I got it today (Tuesday) with just standard shipping.

[Jon]

Of those two the HMC would be "better". Honestly, though, a good UV filter would be the Hoya S-HMC, the B+W MRC or the Heliopan SH-PMC. They'll run you about 50% more. See the Protective Filter FAQ sticky in the EF Lenses forum for why this matters.

[ksuamy20]

Got my camera today! Loving the lensmate adapter. I wish I would have gotten two.

[JustShootin']

Got my camera today! Loving the lensmate adapter. I wish I would have gotten two.

I DID get two! :D

[ksuamy20]

Lucky! I didn't even realize that it would be easier to have two. Because it would be cool to have one for my UV filter and one for my polarizer...a lot easier to change out the lensmate then to unscrew the whole filter :)

[Hasitha]

I received a mail from Lensmate telling that they don't sell Super HMC. I saw one at Amazon for 60 sud. But Where you can get these Hoya filters for the best price ?

@ ksuamy20 : I wish I had bought 2 adapters too.

[ksuamy20]

These are the Hoya filters I bought off Amazon...

Hoya 58CIR 58mm Circular Polarized Filter (http://www.amazon.com/HOYA-58CIR-Circular-Polarized-Filter/dp/B00006HOAQ) for ~$19
Hoya 58mm UV (Ultra Violet) Multi Coated Glass Filter (http://www.amazon.com/Hoya-Ultra-Violet-Coated-Filter/dp/B00009R9A1/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1239305754&sr=8-1) for ~ $22

[LostShootingStar]

These are the Hoya filters I bought off Amazon...

Hoya 58CIR 58mm Circular Polarized Filter (http://www.amazon.com/HOYA-58CIR-Circular-Polarized-Filter/dp/B00006HOAQ) for ~$19
Hoya 58mm UV (Ultra Violet) Multi Coated Glass Filter (http://www.amazon.com/Hoya-Ultra-Violet-Coated-Filter/dp/B00009R9A1/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1239305754&sr=8-1) for ~ $22

I recommend both of these http://www.entertainment-place.info/smile/img/2465/o09a0208gstn/POTNsmile.gif
http://www.entertainment-place.info/smile/img/3200/n08d1214eybr/1by1.gif

[ksuamy20]

Yep I can already tell they are great quality and I haven't even used them much. The polarizer is particularly nice. All metal frame and it is nice and sturdy.

[pci2000]

Here's another question:

I'm thinking of ordering the Raynox DCR-250 Macro Lens. Do I need the Lensmate adapter to attach it to, or can I attach it directly to the bayonet mount?
Also, if I need the Lensmate adapter, I'm assuming that I need to remove any other filters that are attached?

Thanks.

[Farnsrocket]

Here's another question:

I'm thinking of ordering the Raynox DCR-250 Macro Lens. Do I need the Lensmate adapter to attach it to, or can I attach it directly to the bayonet mount?
Also, if I need the Lensmate adapter, I'm assuming that I need to remove any other filters that are attached?

Thanks.

I think it attaches like a lens cap and will wedge inside the original lens, not on the bayonet attachment point.

"The lens uses a grip style connection, suitable for 52mm to 67mm filter sizes."

So it could also fit on a 58mm UV lens that is screwed on to the adapter.

[Hasitha]

Here's another question:
I'm thinking of ordering the Raynox DCR-250 Macro Lens. Do I need the Lensmate adapter to attach it to, or can I attach it directly to the bayonet mount?
Also, if I need the Lensmate adapter, I'm assuming that I need to remove any other filters that are attached?
Thanks.

If filters are attached to the adapter you don't have to remove them. Lens is grip style so it fits nicely.

[JesseMurphy]

Does anyone know if the Raynox DCR-250 adaptor will attach right onto the Powershot SX10 IS without the converter? I have read mixed information, one says it fits on like a lens cap the other says you NEED the lensmate. Anyone?

[JustShootin']

Does anyone know if the Raynox DCR-250 adaptor will attach right onto the Powershot SX10 IS without the converter? I have read mixed information, one says it fits on like a lens cap the other says you NEED the lensmate. Anyone?

Yep, because the Raynox DCR-250 snaps in place, it will snap onto the SX10 lens with no adapter, but there are no threads for screw on filters without the adapter.

[JesseMurphy]

Thank you so much! I tried calling Raynox and Canon with the same question, neither would help me at all. Canon said because it is not a Canon product they say no. lol. Thanks again.

[Hasitha]

Guys whats the different between HOYA 58CIR 58mm Circular Polarized Filter and Hoya 58mm Circular PL Polarizer HMC Multi-Coated Lens Filter apart from the first. Both are same ? First one is around 20$ and second one is like 60$. (at Amazon)

I bought from Lensmate this one called Hoya Circular HMC Polarizer (6 coats) 58mm which costed me 70$. Seems its the second one I mentioned above. Now I feel I like I should had waited. These numbers and words gives me headaches.

[Jon]

No, you made the right move. The HMC filter is multicoated, with several layers of anti-reflective material, so it is less likely to give you lens flare and will transmit a few percent more light than the cheaper (in every sense of the word) one. In fact, Hoya has even better filters available, which cost more.

[Hasitha]

Thanks Jon. So what are other Circular Polarizers Hoya have which is more expensive ? I saw one called B + W 58mm Kaesemann Circular Polarizer which is like 120$

[Jon]

Hoya also makes DMC (digital multicoated) and S-HMC (Super-Multicoated), as well as a Pro1 line. I use B+W MRC (the Kaesemann is MRC) but not the Kaesemann for my lenses.

[Hasitha]

I think I asked about UV filters before and you recommended S-HMC but at a Local phop I found a Pro 1 UV filter for around 35$. This one is good ? it would same me all hassle getting the S-HMC from Amazon if this one is good.